BART Fleet of the Future open house

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Not a huge external stylistic difference to the old trains, but six doors per car is nice.

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Cars on display were C-cars 3001 and 3003, and B-car 4002.

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Control panel

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Interior stations display signs, finally

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And new system map displays

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New interiors are whatever. Lots more standing room.

>>1018041
I'm interested to see results about noise reduction.

>>1018063
I overheard one of the workers on hand saying that in-car noise is much much better, but I don't know if that's from actual tests or just from the new design. They'll be doing overnight test runs starting in the next month or two, so hopefully there will be some data coming out soon.

>>1018065
Obviously the noise should be reduced in theory because of the new door design and use of conical wheels. Replacing old sections of rail will help as well. I really want to see data from inside the tunnels, because that's definitely where the noise is the worst.

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>>1018067
Well hopefully they're putting the test train through the tunnels at full speed and taking measurements going to and from the open houses.

In other BART news, here's the new design for the main entrance to Downtown Berkeley station.

These are REALLY good looking. Seriously impressed.

>>1018117
They do, I'm really excited to see how a full 10-car train looks in action.

>>1018117
>>1018147
>the prettiest American metro train is still way worse looking than the average Japanese or European metro train

>>1018216
>MUH JAP TOASTERS

Looks nice. Unfortunately the main problem with BART is the track layout, not the trains. Every station between West Oakland and maybe Balboa Park needs more than 2 platforms. But I guess if you can get money for new trains might as well go for it.

>>1018434
What?

>>1018434
What for, to combat dwell times?

Because that is what the new cars will do by having more doors.

>>1018472
Minimum headways between West Oakland and Daly City is 2 minutes. Minimum headway on the East Bay lines is 26 minutes. You have four two-track lines interlined onto two tracks. That is not a good design for today's passenger volumes.

The only way to truly expand Bart's passenger capacity is to add parallel tracks through the transbay tube and SF

>>1018475
*16 minutes on east bay lines

>>1018475
That's completely wrong though. Modernized train controls will increase service frequency and capacity without adding a single set of rails/

>>1018479
BART's gains from switching to a cutting-edge train control system would not be able to mitigate the extremely harsh interlining consequences of the system.

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>>1018475
>>1018477
>four two-track lines interlined onto two tracks
They are not using the two-track lines as two parallel inbound tracks though (is there even any rail system in the world that does that?). So that would be 2 * 4 = 8 minute headways per branch, which is far from what they run today.

Also Google is getting pretty spooky with their captcha.

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>>1018041
I was hoping they would choose a modern sleek design like the ones in Europe.

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>>1018493
BART proper is heavy rail, that looks like light rail. The new trains on upcoming the Pittsburg-Antioch "eBART"* line are Stadler GTW DMU light rail units, which are more of the European style.

*eBART is a fucking terrible name and there's no reason to differentiate it from regular BART. SEPTA, for instance, operates at least four modes of transit and doesn't differentiate.

>>1018234
>needing to meet retarded FRA regulation on completely separated metro rail system on a different track gauge even like BART

full retard/10

>>1018518
why is fra regulation of metro systems retarded? please use specific and significant examples, not just general platitudes

>>1018545
why the fuck would you need a standardized regulation on an isolated system? That's retarded, period

t. not the guy you replied to

>>1018545
BART is not FRA-regulated

>>1018499
>SEPTA, for instance, operates at least four modes of transit and doesn't differentiate

Must be nice. Try having 3 different public transit operators that compete with and undermine each other.

>>1018903
That isn't the case with the BART system if that's what you're implying. And there are certainly many, many more than 3 transit operators in the wider Bay Area.

>>1018910
If that's true in both cases, I don't know why you would assume that I was referring to San Francisco.