Wuppertal Suspension Railway

Cost

>>1013659
Track switches

If you get run over, you are pancake

>>1013799

Yes, I can see how that would be a unique problem to only this kind of train.

Grams and aero.

What is the fucking point?
Surely it just costs more to make a train like this?

>>1013828
this shit can go in the air bro!

>>1013828
It's an over 100 year old line you dumb schmuck.

Will any of the 70's orange/blue trains be preserved?

>>1014692
At least one train will remain in service. Most will be sold. But there is a good chance many will be preserved by their new owners.

>>1013659

Weight restrictions

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Destruction of scenic/natural beauty.

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>>1014989
Actually this solution was picked to preserve the scenic river. Also to make it possible to enjoy it's natural beauty in a new way.

An alternative would have been to pave the river and build roads on it.

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>>1015010
Or start a war that destroys half your city and build hueg roads :^)

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>>1015016
They could not know the future. Also could not afford to wait half a century for this to happen.

>>1014989
>implying the scenic/natural beauty > beauty of a 19th century Schwebebahn
pleb desu senpai

How do you evacuate when the thing catches on fire?

Fun fact: From 1935 to 1945, it was called the "Wupperhitler Nazibahn" and was powered by burning Jews for fuel.

>>1015010

>An alternative would have been to pave the river and build roads on it.

You obviously have never heard about the horrors of altering a rivers course.

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>>1016688
>How do you evacuate when the thing catches on fire?

In more then 100 years of operation it never did. It had been heavily bombed during WWII but no car did catch fire.

In case of an accident there are several options.
- the car moves to the next station by itself
- the car is pushed to the next station
- a car goes alongside, passengers change cars and are brought to the next station
- evacuation with ladders
- passengers are abseiled like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYZVwD3rHAY

>>1016693
I don't think you can actually burn Jews for fuel. Unless you dry them first.

>>1013659
In case of an emergency, the only way is to die or jump out of the door, and die.

>>1013659
Needs floor windows so you can see the river >>1014989

>>1017760
holy fucking THIS

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>>1017760
A thing on the Chiba monorail but unfortunately it's contained to the cab because it's an emergency exit that just happens to be a window

>>1013659
>Find a flaw.
It's in Wuppertal

>>1013828
The concept is perfect for its city because of a number of special geographic conditions. Barmen and Elberfeld grew rapidly during the industrial revolution and had a ton of roads built for use by pedestrians and coaches. They were narrow and prone to congestion. All the important centers of trade and commerce were right next to the Wupper river and they still are. The city center is basically a 15km/9 mile long narrow strip straddling the river and the lowest leves of the valley. That means a single line with no crossings or switches was and still is enough. An underground metro could not have been built because of the rocky ground and terrain. Instead, the went for a suspension monorail that straddles the river.
>>1014989
There is no scenic beauty in Wuppertal.
>>1016693
1933 to 1945, you chucklefuck
>>1019271
The displays are way too bright.

>>1013924
this piece of old shit is fucking LOUD!
>>1013659
this one not, awesome new cars.

>>1019288
>1933 to 1945, you chucklefuck

Hitler didn't just snap his fingers after coming into power and transform Germany into Naziland.

>>1013659
They aren't even a little bit collectable.

>>1019746
What do you mean?

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A challenger appears.

>>1019271
God that is comfy

>>1019847
Is that the one in Düsseldorf?

>>1021417
Please read the writing on the train.

>>1021429
Das is Deutsch, das kann ich nich lesen

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>>1021429
Tbh Düsseldorf is pretty weeaboo, wouldn't be too far fetched for them to have chinese cartoons on their trains.

>>1021432
Japan Tag is cool as fuck tho. Especially the Firework.

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Düsseldorf Sky Train looks like this.

>>1013659
this kind of train is a good idea? why doesnt they do it like this more

>>1022502
Because like all monorails it only makes sense in very specific conditions. Case of Wuppertal was explained earlier, it just fits in breddy gud. Prolly the reason they kept it until today.

>>1022502
See post number >>1019288

>>1013659
>Find a flaw
Not elefant-friendly.

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>>1022902
The Althoff Circus organised a publicity stunt by putting a baby elephant on a train at Alter Markt station. As the elephant started to bump around during the ride, she was pushed out of the car and fell into the river Wupper. The elephant, two journalists, and one passenger sustained minor injuries. After this jump, the elephant got the name Tuffi, meaning 'waterdive' in Italian. Both operator and circus director were fined after the incident.

>>1022911
>13
s p o o k y

>>1022972
The pic is a shoop.

Also were the original trains in use all the way into the 60's-70's when the current cars were built? That's breddy based.

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>>1021417
Chiba.

>>1022982
Not quite. The original experimental trains from 1898 were scrapped in 1920. Two trains from 1900 are still in use for festivities today. They're called Kaiserwagen (Emperor's car).
Then there's a bunch of other production ranges up until 1972, when there's a huge gap until 2010.

>>1023143
Intredasting. Care to go into more detail or post sauce?
I thought the Kaiserwagen-type trains were used from the beginning until the current trains came in in the 70's.

>>1023182
Sauce is the German wikipedia article. I'll try to break it down for you.
1898 series
>two cars
>first to touch the rail
>only used for trial runs
>scrapped 1920
1900/1912 series
>21 main cars and 5 secondary cars at start of operations in 1901
>main cars were converted into secondaries in 1912
>65 passengers per car
>bunch of them lost in accidents and bombings
>mostly sold between 1973 and 1975
>2 of them left as Kaiserwagen
1903 series
>weird arrangement of doors allowed for three-car trains packing 225 people in spite of the short platforms
>too heavy, damaging the rail
>transition was low noise, but prone to error
>door arrangement was changed later
>only used during peak hours in morning and noon
>used until 1966, then scrapped
1930 series
>first to have roller bearings
>skylight windows
>only two produced and introduced in late 1931 due to depression
>used until 1966, then scrapped

>>1023195
cont
1941 refits
>experiments for lower noise
>train 14 of 1900 and train 53 of 1912 were refitted
>sold in 1974
>train 53 was scrapped in 1992
>train 14's whereabouts are unknown
1950 series
>20 single cars/10 trains
>automatic doors
>first to have a seat for the operator
>suspension
>2,5 tons lighter than predecessors
>80 passangers per car
>cheap materials used
>decommissioned in the 70s
1962 refit
>cars 65 and 66 from 1950 refitted into a single articulated car and painted blue
1965 refit
>another articulated car in red and with more modern equipment
>this one and the one above were sold to a museum in Bad Oeynhausen in 1974 and there whereabouts are unknown today
1970 refit
>chassis from the 1965 refit was built into cars from 1900 and 1912.
1972 series
>WSW GTW 72
>28 built
>3 lost to an accident and heavy use
>currently being replaced and phased out
>one is to be kept by the railway
2015
>WSW GTW Generation 15
>currently replacing the old cars from 1972
>all in bright blue
>no ads
>Kinetic Energy Recovery Systems

>>1021417
More like DESUldorf.

>>1022433
Oooohhh

>>1023299
How did this happen?

>>1023413
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuppertal_Suspension_Railway#Incidents
It's the one from 12 April 1999.

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>>1016720
>literally no way to exit in less than an hour in an emergency
>German engineering

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What is the advantage of suspended railway over ordinary monorail?

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>>1024393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM
literally none

>>1024411
>>1024393
suspended is more stable. Gravity pulls it down ontothe track, while a normal monorail gravity pulls it off the track. Just like a ball on a curved surface will remain still when it is in a valley, or when it is on the exact top. However in the valley moving it to the side makes it return to the central position, while on the top it will immediately roll off.

t. my brother is an engineer and explained this to me once

>>1024393
The tracks are better protected from snow and rain.

>>1025113
But it forces heavy infrastructures.

>>1025132
Infrastructure cost is pretty much the same

If you wanted best bang for your buck, you'd go for a tram line or BRT service

>>1013659
The front of it is noticably asymmetrical and thus objectively ugly.

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>>1025210
Subjectively. There's beauty in asymmetry.

>>1019837
The models aren't standard

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China's first suspension railway will be powered by battery - what's the advantage of this approach?

And how the hell would barttery-based suspension failway = new energy?

>>1029044
You need no power rail but cars gain unnecessary weight and can not operate continuously all day.
I guess they do it because they can.

btw why are these suspended rail parallel instead of double layered? puting one track ont top of another should save some space...

>>1029119
But it makes the supporting construction roughly twice as complex.

>>1029044
If it allows for simpler rail, and can be charged during normal operation on stations, I guess it could be a viable option.

>>1013659
if only someone else would realize suspension railway would save /o/ttawa from the hell it is

>>1013812
No one said find a flaw unique to only this type of train you fucking retard!

>>1029233
I suppose twice as complex is acceptable when it can save space?

>>1021417
>Düsseldorf
>Oreimo ad-foils stuck to the cars

I guess not. Atleast not for Oreimo. See >>1021432.

>>1021432

>tfw they didn't make a full body ad for the pokemon-go tram


>>1022428
It's pretty meh. Way too overcrowded and besides some local shops and restaurants not nearly as interesting as you'd hope for. Save your money and go to a con, if you are into that stuff.

They're a bitch to use with a baby carriage or wheelchair. But they're fun to ride.
I went to the Wuppertal Zoo and riding with the Schwebebahn was the best part.

>>1014989
this shit looks rad as fuck dude shut up

>>1013924
>raucher and nichtraucher in the same car
That's fucking retarded. Just assign one car raucher and the other nichtracucher.

>>1016737
The most convenient way to use Jews for fuel would be to render their schmaltz and convert it into alkyl esters.

>>1023249
underrated

Wuppertal must have been beutifull before arabs ruined it

>>1033962
this is true for way more places than Wuppertal

>>1033962
>>1033985
Classic /pol/ idiocy at its best. Wuppertal is well known for being one of the ugliest cities in all of Germany. Get the fuck off this board and spout your racism elsewhere.

>>1034335
>i-it was a 3rd world shithole years ago, I-I promise ;_;

>>1037063
Wuppertal is terrible on multiple levels, but it is not a third world shithole. That only applies to the literal gigantic hole in the ground right in front of the central station.

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>>1024393
I believe generally suspended monorails have a smaller turning radius because they don't need much "track width" to stay stable. This is especially true for the Wuppertal schwebebahn as this is litterally a monorail as in they use a single normal railway rail as track. I visited wuppertal as a kid and I remember being pretty flabbergasted seeing a complete metro train turn in a 15 meter turning loop

>>1019847
>incest anime painting scheme
Beat that, Wuppertal

I have German friend that was impressed I knew wtf Wuppertal was

>>1017234
where exactly was that i live in wuppertal and cant recognize that spot.
Fucking allies and their bombs

>>1042279
The new trains looks sexy as fuck and I love how the livery goes together with blue sky.

>>1017760
>Needs floor windows so you can see the river
Definitely a thing but it would probably be used to look up skirts...

This is why we can't have nice things.

>>1045552
>Definitely a thing but it would probably be used to look up skirts...
The train travels over the river most of the time and is so high above that you probably won't see anything up there anyway.

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>>1045350
Döppersberg facing west towards Ohligsmühle, you can kind of tell from the run of the river and the bridges, and the Schlossbleiche on the right side hasn't changed much. Also you can see the Thalia theater behind the buildings on the left, where the Sparkassenturm stands is now.

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>>1046494
By that time the Ohligsmühle was still called "Alexanderbrücke". The Thalia theater was taken down in the late 60s.

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>>1046495
also look at how /n/ this picture is

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>>1046494
>>1017234
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>>1046497
and from 1970

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>>1016688

Germany doesn't have fires unless there's a large number of Jewish people in a confined space or British aircraft named a prominent royal house fly over their cities.

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>>1046617
Kühl story ßro

>>1046484
I don't think it would actually be an issue, but depending on the angle windows sometimes are reflective so some superhuman who can already see through solid objects could theoretically be able to do it, which is enough for it to be a pr disaster.