Does anyone else feel that there's no real musical zeitgeist

Watch this all the way through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaHcOs7mhfU

vaporwave is big with normies now
also trap

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The internet is like a giant orb with the genres of music being microcosms inside the orb, floating through a vast empty space.

>>75182968
Nah if you had been paying attention to dance music aswell as mainstream, its been changing very quickly over the last 10 years.

Yeah the music of this decade is trap, EDM, and vaporwave

>>75182968
why do u want a zeitgeist in the first place?

Trap, soundcloud rap/cloud rap, and vaporwave.

>>75183156
Everything has a zeitgeist

>>75183168
not anymore

>>75183171
American 2010s zeitgeist-Social media as mass form of communication and supressor, rise and revival of political correctness in our ecology, sociological transition for minorities, eck-seturah
I can tell you the zeitgeist of the carton of OJ in my fridge

>>75183168
But this decade doesn't.
This doesn't make sense.

>>75182968
The musical zeitgeist was the zeitgeist.
Pop music was a meme
Hypebeasts and p4k indie-heads the same kind of person.
Time will leave you behind.

>>75183220
Well, personally I think we have a musical zeitgeist for this decade, let's keep in mind it hasn't even ended
You have dubstep/EDM, the soundcloud kids, trap, Weird Frontier, Death Grips, emo-rap (our nu-metal), meta shit like vaporwave. It's there.

>>75183253
>It's there
And it's all drek.

>>75183253
Nobody actually likes anything you've mentioned. Tastemakers are so out of touch, these weird things get foisted on people, and everyone's left scratching their heads. The most positive opinion being dropped is apologetic water-testing, seeing if everyone else in the room will herb them out for liking Lil Peep.
People either like post-hardcore and pop punk they grew up with, or just put on Future and Travis Scott and call it day. The spirit of the times is complete stagnance.

>>75183279
Matter of perspective anon, remember that.
If I could compare it to one thing, it'd be the 80s in the "we're living in the future" sense.

>>75183279
Jungle/grime/DNB/House/IDM/Garage/dubstep/techno/trap etc has all had awesome releases in the past decade

>>75183294
This is obviously the way one would naturally feel if Lil Peep is your referral, probably the worst, shittiest thing to reach a wide appeal in quite some time. Electronic music has had quite the renaissance this decade but I'm willing to wager you think it's soulless.

>>75182968
I've said this here before but if you want something that definitively sounds like the 2010s listen to Danny Brown- Old.

>>75183294
most people on /mu/ like at least 2/8s of the things listed there

>>75183392
Yeah but we're just /mu/. We have no impact or purpose or influence, just a bunch of weirdos on drugs, obsessed with music.

>>75183342
>soulless

No, I have more respect than to throw meaningless shit like that around. Electronic music IS going in this direction that I like, but it's still disappointing when a promising talent like Mura Masa gets wasted on fashionista-disguised-as-music-artist trash like A$AP Rocky.

My criticism is more towards the obvious divide between what's getting pushed into the marketplace and what people enjoy, than the artists themselves. Truth is, what people react to on a real visceral level is usually not what they say they like.

Go to a party, pay attention. What gets the girls up off of the wall isn't what they're spinning at the nightclubs. Trust me.

>>75183294
>nobody actually likes death grips
Wowie

>>75182968
it's not a question of music alone, really
see cultural entropy, culture/civilization phases, my homeboy ozzie spengler, etc.

>>75183461
They don't. People wear their shirts. People buy their vinyls. People shut off their records two songs deep. They are not a band, they're a lifestyle brand. People are too dumb to not conflate this with actual music.

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>I started seeing recorded music as a kind of genre in itself. Somehow, all recorded music, no matter where it is in the world, even if it's from the pre-recorded music era, once it had been sucked into being recorded music and you're listening to a two-dimensional thing, that can be listened to anywhere any time while you're doing almost anything. In my head it's all become this one thing that's fast draining of meaning. Once an artform loses its meaning, it no longer has any real value.

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>tfw born at the end modern civilization

>>75183479
okeh

>>75183524
What makes you say that?

>>75182968
I think the 2010s have a cultural zeitgeist but not a musical one. This decade is so confused when it comes to music and to a lesser extent atheistics. Shit is all over the place.

>>75183552
This, aesthetics have become this pretentious punchline and not, you know, aesthetics.

>>75183524
It's a brave new world, anon.

>>75183311
With the exception of house and trap none of those things listed are in vogue though or have any real appeal in the mainstream, a lot of the great new releases in those styles are also 90s revivalism rather than pursuing their own identity that can be attributed to any cultural facet of the 2010s

>>75183540
What do you like about their music?

>>75183569
Martha Stewart is the most influential figure of our time.

>>75183168

True to a certain degree. Thanks to the internet, fads come and go quickly.

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>>75183524
It's for the best, anon.

>>75183546
I mean, it doesn't take a genius to see that the world we live in is in no way sustainable.
I will live long enough to see it all end in a slow-burning shitstorm but not long enough to see what's on the other side and how we end up. My children will probably have to live in an absolutely shit world.

>>75183215
so basically no zeitgeist

its going to be funny when you retards realize this was the best era of enjoying art we are ever going to get.
this is an art renaissance we are living in. you can access any era at zero cost.

netflix and the rest of social media is slowly killing it off and making everything crowdfunded. which is good and bad.

>>75183723
Netflix still has the chance to become a beautiful mess of distribution and content, you hear it's gonna spend 7 billion on content next year? That just sounds spectacular in itself.

>>75183723
I def utilized it the best I possibly could, listened to as much out there music as possible. It really was the shangri-la of media the past ~10 years. Too bad the fucking fascists, feds and lawyers are going to ruin it for everybody so they can suck the shit out of their rich master's assholes.

>>75183723
The accessibility of EVERYTHING is what is killing cultural identity in the first place.
>you can access any era at zero cost
How does this make it a revival? Popular music didn't just die every decade until the internet came along.
An artistic renaissance is about the creation of art, not the consumption.

>>75183768
By way of having too many options, you've become an incomprehensible blob of nothing. Total freedom isn't what it's cracked up to be.

>>75183784
>An artistic renaissance is about the creation of art, not the consumption.
which is happening
did you ever imagine somebody like beyonce sampling fucking animal collective?

>>75183787
Yes and no, I get to curate my own tastes and honestly it helps me get to the root of my own musical sensibilities. Made me a much better musician.
I do think free stuff can devalue it and it's obviously not sustainable if nobody actually spends resources on it. But I don't really see how I've become a blob of "nothing". I never really turned into those people trying to download terabytes of music just to have it, I just had much easier access to what I was interested in.
Kind sounds like some pseudo-right-wing logic so popular among you people.

>>75183848
So what are those roots?

>>75183828
pop music isn't art

>>75183865
Art is subjective, dingus.

>>75183828
Yes I'm sure Beyoncé produces her own music
Even massive pop music producers get around, it's not surprising he would be familiar with AnCo.
You could say the same about Drunk And Hot Girls and that was just before the internet became as massively accessible to normal people as it is, so I don't really see your point.

>>75183870
>Art is subjective
>shit retards say

>>75183870
Whatever, Jacques

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>>75183524
>tfw you can become the father of a new civilization

>>75182968
>Does anyone else feel that there's no real musical zeitgeist for the 2010s
its trap music you damn idiot

>>75183891
I know, I'm just scared I won't make it that far and yet will live through the fall

>>75183848
Well, I personally like music with a strong beat structure and dense, intertwined melodies. Don't really like singer-songwriter music or folk music, much prefer jazz, soul, funk, afro-cuban music, math rock / experimental indie or classical music (yes I'm aware it doesn't have strong beat structure).
Complexity isn't everything, but I fucking hate bands like the pixies for example.
Used to listen to alternative music but never understood why I hated so much of it, it's because it's boring crap.

>>75183905
>will live through the fall
are you blind or something

>>75183919
Are you implying we're in the fall already?
We haven't even began to enter the world of shit we're in for.

>>75183049
this interviewer
>I dont get it, you can say anything ?

>>75183939
This is why electronic music is a total farce, generally, even if there's cool ideas. It's the sound track to "everything's fine guize"

>>75183939
>we
if by "we" you mean the States and top 5 countries

>>75183977
>>75184002
No, I'm talking globally
Yes, even Venezuela
I'm not even in the top 5, but I'm not sure how that's relevant when I may as well be going by my standard of living

>>75184045
then you're not a smart type

>>75184058
Not even going to elaborate and instead ambiguously declare your dominance?
It's possible to have an actual argument even on 4chan believe it or not, but I suppose you'd rather keep making empty statements.

>>75184093
>a thread about dead/dying culture
>Not even going to elaborate and instead ambiguously declare your dominance?
Ok, here's my argument: the cycle of global post-modern capitalism that started in 1970 is nearing its end, whereas in the political realm the institutions that can prevent its pernicious consequences are dying out while the mass society is being fed rehashed popular culture narcotics that methodically make them dumb and even less conscious than in the beginning of the 20th century, which is a quick suicide in conditions of the advanced material culture.

>>75184326
Hey, you're not allowed to say that sentence you fashionist

>>75184326
If you're still concerned with the retarded left/right dichotomy when talking about the end of modern civilization I don't even know what to tell you, you're brainwashed.
This shit is the least of your worries, capitalism is only one avenue of many we could have taken to our bitter end.
I still don't quite understand your aversion to "the end" being global rather than only affecting your "top 5", you seem to be thinking in terms of the dumbing down of people and culture rather than the very real prospect of an absolute end to the modern world as we know it, which goes to show you're no less ignorant than the masses you scoff at.

>>75184326
Do you have a single fact to back anything you just said up?

>>75184346
hello, /lit/? and fuck off eternally.
>>75184834
>This shit is the least of your worries
Really? What's my primary concern then, "bettering myself" or other such drivel?
>the very real prospect of an absolute end to the modern world as we know it
And how is it going to happen, apart from military or industrial annihilation exactly because of the lowering of general level of intelligence? Well, if you're not going to elaborate on it then you're the one who doesn't give a damn and resorts to elitist esoterics here.

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>>75183699
read a few books dipshit there hasn't been a zeitgeist of the kind you're looking for since the 60's, we live in a post-apocalyptic wasteland ruled by corporations and they've left just enough trees in the right places to keep you fooled

>>75184908
It starts with $20 trillion debt and uh, go from there. Do your fucking homework. You have to be a child to not comprehend how epically, Biblically, fucked it is.

>>75184908
The fiercest economic crisis in history is not a fact?

>>75184942
What the fuck is your problem? You're arguing with people you fundamentally agree with over semantic hair-splitting.

>This is what they're teaching in school

>>75185010
No, we're arguing over bullshit esoterics.

>>75184961
Wrong?
>>75184951
Ok, so I'll completely agree with you on enviroment and economy is definitely on a huge downward trend, but culturally?

>>75185096
>Wrong?
No.
>but culturally?
There is no culture left, only entertainment.

no music zeitgeist because music is sound and sound hasn't changed
still the same
just noises
whats the point in having a zeitgeist when its the same all the time

>>75185096
The culture we're experiencing right now is a manifestation of the masses putting their heads in the sand.

>>75185117
This. That "synthesizers can produce any conceivable sound in the auditory spectrum" is something that was literally said about the symphony orchestra in its heyday.

>>75183870
Yeah but pop music literally isn't art, it's entertainment.

>>75185117
Yeah, go listen to that John Cage's piece that lasts 800 years, yuppie asshole.

>>75185151
art is entertainment....
are you being dumb on purpose??

>>75185134
When has that ever not been the case?

>>75185150
"synthesisers can produce any conceivable sound"
no shit they're called SYNTHESIZERS for a reason

>>75185171
no, yup your asshole

>>75185134
i think its more that we have come to meet new people in new ways
the possibilities from crowd thinking are endless
i look forward readily to the bold new innovations that
the digital age willl bring us

>>75184942
Economic collapse.
We rely entirely on a resource that isn't renewable and is impossible to completely replace before it's already over.
Even getting oil requires oil, fracking only postponed the crash a little bit instead of preventing it.
And to answer your first question, you should be concerned with making life for yourself, the people you trust and your family as good and comfortable as possible while also keeping it sustainable so your children or your children's children don't live absolutely shit lives in a dying world and ensuring they live through that.
This left/right shit needs to fuck off, it's making people define themselves using an incredibly limited construct that isn't very useful to begin with that hasn't even existed for 200 years, what kind of shit is that?
People even start lieing to themselves about the things they believe in so that they aren't part of the other team, it's narrow minded "me ooga, they booga" fucking bullshit.

>>75185183
so when a dog chews on a toy that is art
for the dog is being entertained
by the toy that it chews but it doesn't consider that
Art at all!

>>75185215
>We rely entirely on a resource that isn't renewable and is impossible to completely replace before it's already over
yes if only oils had a repeat button like spotify does :( the only renewable energy that matters to me though is when the CD starts over at the end

>>75185215
>>
this

>>75185234
the toy itself is a work of art. so yes. but the world isn't black or white like you're making it seem.

>>75185183
So, St Matthew Passion was written to keep you entertained? Or the Requiem? or Grosse Fuge? Or the Twilight of the Gods? That's quite incredible, tell me more indeed.

>>75185215
>incredibly limited construct that isn't very useful to begin with that hasn't even existed for 200 years
you mean like OIL??
every thing comes in cycles you have to understand once we use up the oil there will be something else instead, its not like we use oil in the tv remote; maybe batteries will become more important than oil, and then after that theres still manual gears; those trains that you winch up and down on either side, theyy aren't using oil

>>75185151
You could say the same about popular music as a whole, the indie alt-rock schlock you listen to that you think is above pop music is also just a product.
All recorded music released digitally, on a disc, on a cassette, on LP, etc is a product, even if it's released for free.
That doesn't meant that popular music cannot be art, just that it isn't inherently.
What makes it art or not is your own arbitrary construction of what makes something art, which is subjective.

>>75185195
>no shit they're called SYNTHESIZERS for a reason

I'm saying this isn't a novel concept by any stretch. What exactly, on a physical level, does a synthesizer do that a combination of the instrumental section cannot?

>>75185183
lmao look at this retard

>>75185251
everything s black or white
thru the eyes of the dog

>>75185276
run on batteries

The hippie era was the last true independent culture. Now everything gets flipped for cash - even the most extreme anti-establishment subcultures like noise and power electronics are being flipped to the mainstream for a quick buck because they can be aesthetically pleasing. And traditional cultures are being intentionally erased so that everyone is the same and everyone will buy the same products - soon, Ukrainians, Chinese, Laotians, Nigerians, Colombians, British, Russians, Japanese, and Kazakhstani will all be virtually the same culturally, with only a few outliers caring at all for their heritage.

Of course, this model of excess is not sustainable and leads to people becoming apathetic and depressed, wallowing in decadence to try and avoid it. But this house of cards will blow apart, and when it does, the facade of happiness will be gone and people will finally realize that they slowly had their identity leeched away until they had nothing.

>>75183949
I would say that's the typical reaction you would have gotten, but this was already in 1999, and even if the claims were a little outlandish at the time, the Internet was already big enough for Bowie's opinions not to be met with such a high degree of skepticism. Paxman is a tard, basically.

>>75185290
>The hippie era was the last true independent culture
well then why didn't they call them indies
wait a minute!!!
theres a movement called that
hmm need a different name for them then

>>75185253
>So, St Matthew Passion was written to keep you entertained?
i don't make up the opinion of the world. but plenty of people fine great pleasure of listening to those works. so yes it is entertainment. what else would those works would be for?
academia? are you studying classical in university by chance?

>>75185286
yes but we are not dogs. and dogs didn't create the toy.

>>75185286
>run on batteries
That's a limitation, not a strength.

>>75185306
*studying classically

>>75185253
If you enjoy listening to those pieces you're being entertained by them, the intention doesn't denote whether it's ultimately entertainment or not.

>>75185290
How old are you?

>>75185317
have you ever run on batteries? hurts
definitely not a limitation-if anything a skill

>>75185266
Yes, oil that is thousands of years old hasn't existed until recently, you're right

>>75185333
Yes. I eat for sustenance and if I don't, I die. I am limited by my biological imperatives.

>>75183828
>did you ever imagine music becoming endlessly derivative?

>>75183072
Can confirm. Am normie and listening to Vaporwave right now.

>>75185215
It's called "industrial annihilation", as I already wrote.

>you should be concerned with making life for yourself
Oh really? In actuality, I must be concerned with creation of political institutions that are relevant to my and everybody's life. This individualistic outlook is completely inane and illustrates the fact that you've already in the fall of your civilization.
>This left/right shit needs to fuck off
You're the one who mentioned it here in the first place, so indeed it needs to fuck off.

R A T T L I N G H I H A T S

>>75185346
been like that since the 80's buddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obAEUiVn8eA

>>75185343
oh yeah well humans can reproduce but i don't see you even trying

>>75185346
Everything thought is derivative

>>75185322
Enjoyment is not entertainment. You can entertain your bullshit ego, whereas enjoyment is none of its concern.

>>75185371
>point died
>resorts to personal attack
Classic

>>75185306
What does it have to do with entertainment? Entertainment means consumption, enjoyment means compassion.

>>75185416
its only a personal attack if you take it personally
:-)

>>75185355
Handy of you to cut off the rest of my sentence, I'm not an individualist.
You cannot save everyone, you can't even save most people, yet alone a nation.
Even trying is ridiculous, only collectives which are built from the ground up have that kind of power, so start from the ground instead of the skies.
There are no more political solutions because the whole game is already ran by the victors, any political movement of significance that even has to tiniest possibility to change the course of things and significantly change the capitalist landscape will be trampled into the dust.
You can either continue looking at the stars or actually do something to help your fellows, which is far more realistic.

>>75185419
en·ter·tain·ment
ˌen(t)ərˈtānmənt/Submit
noun
the action of providing or being provided with amusement or enjoyment.
"everyone just sits in front of the TV for entertainment"
synonyms: amusement, pleasure, leisure, recreation, relaxation, fun, enjoyment, interest, diversion
"he reads for entertainment"
an event, performance, or activity designed to entertain others.
plural noun: entertainments
"a theatrical entertainment"
synonyms: show, performance, presentation, production, extravaganza, spectacle, pageant
"an entertainment for the emperor"


if these artist that you mentioned didn't want their art to be entertaining. they would have just burned their sheet music and not even go to the trouble of having rich people help fund their work.

>>75185460
>submit
woh mr corporation you won't trick me that easily

>>75185393
But the reason we entertain our ego to begin with is because or brain is programmed to "enjoy" having a self for survival purposes.
I suppose it's impossible to call it enjoyment because that's an abstraction rather than a biological construct but it's the closest thing I have to communicate the idea.

>>75185475
You have the most corporate mindset here. Go chew on a dog toy or whatever. I'm sure the NEA will love it.

>>75185544
>go chew on a dog toy
ruff

Why do namefags always pretend to be retarded and type like autists?

>>75185447
>There are no more political solutions because the whole game is already ran by the victors, any political movement of significance that even has to tiniest possibility to change the course of things and significantly change the capitalist landscape will be trampled into the dust.
What victors? What "whole game"? Political solutions to what? What course of things? That's advanced illuminati bullshitting, I must admit. What you imagine here, these 'celestial forces' in reality are products of your resentment because of the fact that you belong to a dying impotent passive culture and are interested in investing in your delusions to further conceal this fact.

>>75185586
every time
you are near

>>75185477
>because or brain is programmed to "enjoy" having a self for survival purposes.
Programmed? By the spooky forces of the Nature, I assume? Then deprogram it you idiot, that's what culture and classical music in particular had been doing for centuries.

>>75185717
yeah and then computers came about and now its 'cool' to be programmed :-/

>>75185609
Lots of implications mister, I'm talking about the wealthy people that are interested in keeping and expanding their wealth and don't really care about human beings, the people who run politics with their money. Doesn't really matter if they're lizard people or illuminati, their role remains the same.
If you actually believe politicians are more than talking heads to keep people happy you're delusional.
The course of things I'm talking about is what we've already been discussing, the eventuality of an economic collapse and further devastation of the earth due to the global economy we live in. People want to keep going no matter the cost because it means they get to keep their wealth.
I don't know what you're vitriol was aimed at but you seem to be presuming a lot about me based on a few of my ideas.

>>75185717
Understanding something intellectually is a world of difference from actually experiencing something.
You cannot just "deprogram" your brain, especially not with fucking music, try telling a faggot to just "be straight"
I don't know of any enlightened masters who reached their state listening to Bach and wanking with intellectuals.
Whether you like it or not you are enjoying and thus being entertained by listening to music, even if that is achieved through other sensations.
Take horror for example, being scared isn't enjoyable but we are entertained by the experience after the fact because we elicit enjoyment from it

>>75185781
>I'm talking about the wealthy people that are interested in keeping and expanding their wealth and don't really care about human beings
Then stop them, what are you waiting for? Do you say they possess some superhuman consciousness that prevents you from acting, that these are supervillains? As I pointed out, this is how you resentment operates. These people are victims of the society (like you), mediocre and greedy individuals at best, and you say they're a threat to the mankind? What kind of hidden hatred toward the mankind does this express?
>If you actually believe politicians are more than talking heads to keep people happy you're delusional.
Yeah, I promulgate that there's no "secret cabal" apart from the cabal of idiots who think there's some secret cabal or other hidden force that prevents them from acting on a large scale. That's a cunning way of avoiding your responsibility. I bet you believe in alien pyramids and cities on Mars.
>I don't know what you're vitriol was aimed at
It was aimed at the mass society and its products like bullshit esoterics and lame excuses.

>>75182968
the zeitgeist is chainsmokers and lmfao

>>75185855
>I don't know of any enlightened masters who reached their state listening to Bach
Oh, you have direct access to every human mind you spooky bastard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVrYbKBrI7o

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>>75183147
I agree. Even early 2000s stuff like LMFAO and Ke$ha feels outdated now.

>>75185306
St Matthew was written to 1) set chapters of Matthew's Gospel to music 2) express devotion to God through the emotional power of music. It was originally meant to be performed only on Good Friday, the fact that you can now pull it up on YouTube any day of the week notwithstanding.

>>75186038
You're delusional then, which is unfortunate.
Good luck with your political campaign, hope that works out for you :)

>>75187690
>Kesha
>LMFAO
>early 2000s

everyone I know is listening to youtube "chill lofi hip hop beats /// music to study" streams

>>75182968
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5-f1Bnltu8
our Hope.

>>75183524
>tfw born at the start of a post modern civilization
the future's bright anons

>>75182968
Everything just seems a bunch of fucking Beyonce and cookie-cutter voices that sound really airy and insubstantial.

>>75188426
He's shite mate

Mac demarco post internet bullshit, OFWGKTA, meme rap yung lean shit, vaporwave, etc. there's some definitively 2010s music

>>75183600
simon reynolds wrote Retromania, he takes everything spoke in this thread, the lack of aim, pursuit..

>>75183627
Not the same guy, But I can tell you. They tackled industrial hip hop like no other group or artist did. Their music is visceral, abrasive, and maintains a level of catchiness that leaves it stuck in your head. Of course, there are far more abrasive groups (even just including industrial hip hop, at least blackie is more abrasive), but none are able to go through so many different styles in such a natural flow. Plus, they're great live.

>>75185290
bifo berardi fuck off

There is, OP is just too autistic to notice it.

>>75182968
there's a musical zeitgeist for the 2010s
it's called Shit

If this were 1978, the OP would be bitching about disco while making no effort to find any music other than what's on the radio.

>>75185290
I will never understand why people give a shit about "cultural identity".

>>75183296
>>75183253
This is really the answer.

You want the zeitgeist? It's violent, growing because it's so simple and so visible now, all over the internet seconds after it happened. It's aggressive, mad, and inconsistent, and very diverse and sporadic. There's a general sense of malaise, depression, isolation despite connection, and general wistfulness. Wishes for better times, looking back on the past, both yours and the world, either with anger or sadness. Stripped-down aesthetics and sounds reduced pretty far to basics.

If the 80's was "we're living in the future, and we love it!" now is "living in the future, and it's not so great." There's your zeitgeist.

>>75191221
this is also why the 80s are so heavily romanticized now

Its really weird that indie rock bands are going through a dance phase.

>>75190751
It's gives people an ingrained sense of identity and morals, instead of having whatever one is trendy on social media right now as your guideline for living.

>>75183253
Why do anons refrence DG like LUM didnt start that whole wave...

2010s:

trap
vaporwave
future funk
hipster black metal (sunbather, liturgy,...)
lofi guitar indie (macdemarco core)
EDM (avicci, tiesto, etc)
ironic good music (ariel pink, yung lean,...)
dubstep
regeaton (despacito)
mainstream psychedelic rock (tame impala)
kpop got super big in the west

Im missing a lot of stuff, this decade has been really diverse and people are still not realizing that

>>75191688
Yeah, this decade is the most diverse and unique since the 90s. Grumpy shut ins who masturbate to post-punk and shit just don't care to leave their comfort zone to realize it.

>>75191221
this is it, we are living in the era of "asking a fish what living in water is like" our sound is the sound of looking for a sound

>>75191772
It was ok, but we were talking mostly about the shitstorm that is going on in the world outside of this tiny island.

>>75191688

also:

death grips, yeezus, other smaller groups (industrial hip hop)
bubblegum pop (pc music)
king krule (mix of jazz and post punk)
emo rap
chillwave (toro y moi,the other guy also)
electronic music
lofi hip hop
future bass
deep house

other decades were defined by 2 or 3 genres at best, with the internet making things so accesible many different genres are beginning to appear, and the decade isnt even over yet

>>75192002
there is nothing innovative about king krule
and chillwave and dubstep were over and done with around a decade ago

>>75185276
Synthesize wave forms

>>75192017
modern dubstep or brostep (like skrillex) were really different from classic dubstep. I dont really like King Krule but i cant really think of a previous artist that blended thos 2 genres. Chillwave wasnt very original musically but it created the idea of making music that was aesthetically chill and relaxing, contrary to the 2000s violent sound of rock, emo, and distorted guitar based music.

>>75183220
The zeitgeist is paranoia and hatred.

>>75192150
>2000s the last call before the party's over
>"let's fucking rage"

Makes sense.

>ca. 2017 I can livestream an ISIS beheading
>"guys let's chill out"

Doesn't.

>>75183072
Vaporwave is already out of the consciousness of normies as far as I can see.

>>75193702
Escapism?

>>75183279
your spelling of dreck is dreck.

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>>75187690
With the exception of a few bands that still hold on to older sounds, I'll take "outdated" music over all this modern shit any day.

Fuck, I'm 24 and I've already become a "these stupid kids and their shitty music, lemme show you youngsters what good music actually is" geezer.

I don't want to reach 40, I'm already so detached from modern culture, even the newer memes I'm starting to see nowadays are no longer making sense.

>>75182968
The sound of the 2010s seems to be deconstructed and depressing rap. Though, you're right in the availability of everything made all the genres pretty similar, at least the reall popular ones.

>>75194490
>Fuck, I'm 24 and I've already become a "these stupid kids and their shitty music, lemme show you youngsters what good music actually is" geezer.

What are the good bands grand dad?

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>>75191221
>>75191836
this really resonates with me lads

>>75182968
Of course there's a musical zeitgeist for the 2010s, it just has nothing to do with rock, so /mu/ doesn't know and doesn't care. If you played a pop song or a hip-hop song from the 2010s and the 2000s it'd be really easy to distinguish between them, but indie rock hasn't realized that it's been 13 fucking years since This Is It and hasn't quite moved past it yet.

Best thread in a while, people are thinking beyond memes and stupid media agenda

>>75195000
Rock's not a thing.