what 2017 hip-hop have I missed?

>>75161067
Stop spamming this garbage thread, retarded ratings-inflator.

>>75161079
what did i inflate?

>>75161096
7/10 "decent"
6/10 "meh"

You rate music like IGN rates video games.

>>75161116
sorry I don't read IGN

do you mean ratings deflation?

>>75161152
If "decent" for most people is a 5 or 6, and you consider "decent" to be 7, you are inflating the value of "decent" by ascribing a higher numerical value than is appropriate. Deflation would be the opposite.

>>75161169
>If "decent" for most people is a 5 or 6
That's a big "if"

>>75161181
Yeah silly me, I assume that most people aren't mentally retarded

>>75161198
>Yeah silly me, I assume that most people aren't mentally retarded
Where can I read about these universal objective standards for rating things?

>>75161221
Silly retard, nobody said anything about objectivity ITT until you brought it up

>>75161234
>Silly retard, nobody said anything about objectivity ITT until you brought it up
Then how can you know "decent" for most people is a 5 or 6 and that it's not just your personal bias?

>>75161242
Silly retard, your use of the word "most" completely invalidates your attempt to bring up objectivity

Here's a bigger list of a bunch of stuff, what I'd actually recommend worth checking out from this list is Billy Woods, DJ Quik & Problem, and Nnamdi Ogbonnaya

Allan Kingdom - LINES
Allday - Speeding
Amine - Good For You
Billy Woods - Known Unknowns
Chief Keef - Thot Breaker
DJ Quik & Problem - Rosecrans
Goldlink - At What Cost
J.I.D - The Never Story
Lil Yachty - Teenage Emotions
Meek Mill - Wins & Losses
Migos - Culture
Mike WiLL Made-It - Ransom 2
NAV & Metro Boomin - Perfect Timing
New Gen - New Gen
Nnamdi Ogbonnaya - Drool
P.O.S. - Chill, dummy
Playboi Carti - Playboi Carti
PnB Rock - GTTM: Goin Thru the motions
Raekwon - The Wild
Starlito - Hot Chicken
Starlito & Don Trip - Step Brothers Three
Thundamentals - Everyone We Know
Vic Mensa - The Autobiography
Wicca Phase Springs Eternal - Stop Torturing Me
Young Thug - BEAUTIFUL THUGGER GIRLS
2 Chainz - Pretty Girls Like Trap Music
21 Savage - Issa Album / 21 Uzi

me check my bars

lookin at the stars

niggas got cars

finna go to mars

look at the stars!

that shit cray

that shit cray

that shit cray


My shoes like the hobbit

I'm from the hobbit

call my ass frodo

nigga I'ma doh doh

call me doh doh

>>75161267
>Silly retard, your use of the word "most" completely invalidates your attempt to bring up objectivity
Did you misread my post? Your reply doesn't seem to have anything to do with it

>>75161277
Here's a bigger list of a bunch of stuff, what I'd actually recommend worth checking out from this list is Billy Woods, DJ Quik & Problem, and Nnamdi Ogbonnaya V2

Allan Kingdom - LINES
Allday - Speeding
Amine - Good For You
Billy Woods - Known Unknowns
Chief Keef - Thot Breaker
DJ Quik & Problem - Rosecrans
Goldlink - At What Cost
J.I.D - The Never Story
Lil Yachty - Teenage Emotions
Meek Mill - Wins & Losses
Migos - Culture
Mike WiLL Made-It - Ransom 2
NAV & Metro Boomin - Perfect Timing
New Gen - New Gen
Nnamdi Ogbonnaya - Drool
P.O.S. - Chill, dummy
Playboi Carti - Playboi Carti
PnB Rock - GTTM: Goin Thru the motions
Raekwon - The Wild
Starlito - Hot Chicken
Starlito & Don Trip - Step Brothers Three
Thundamentals - Everyone We Know
Vic Mensa - The Autobiography
Wicca Phase Springs Eternal - Stop Torturing Me
Young Thug - BEAUTIFUL THUGGER GIRLS
2 Chainz - Pretty Girls Like Trap Music
21 Savage - Issa Album / 21 Uzi
Lil Doh Doh - 4chan post

>>75161293
What do you think about Lil Doh Doh?

>>75161293
Are you feeling okay dude ? You appear to believe you made some kind of valid point worth being addressed

>>75161311
I think you're both missing the bigger picture here

WHAT ABOUT LIL DOH DOH

>>75161311
>Are you feeling okay dude ? You appear to believe you made some kind of valid point worth being addressed
I'm feeling great, but I'm no "dude".

>>75161320
What's the matter bro ?

>>75161320
Bro are you ignoring me? Bro I clearly asked you a question

>>75161325
>What's the matter bro ?
Nothing, I said I'm feeling great. But I'm no "bro"

>>75161347
Everything alright, man ?

>>75161355
>Everything alright, man ?
Yep

>>75161308
>What do you think about Lil Doh Doh?
forgettable

>>75161234
>Silly retard
Why the ableism?

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>>75161394
Something I've always found funny is that the only people I've ever seen use the word "ableism" are able-bodied white women who have never worked (or spoken, really) with the seriously disabled in their life.

>>75161221
5/10 is very obviously average
I don't know what he's talking about "most people" because "most people" view 7/10 as average (probably taking cues from C average grades) hence the IGN comparison because they do the same. But 5/10 is objectively average regardless of what people think.

>>75161630
>But 5/10 is objectively average regardless of what people think.
Which average? mean, median, mode?

>>75161653
with 5/10 set to average, you get half of the scale worse and half of the scale better

>>75161067
>still striving
>5/10
succ a gorilla dicc my nig

>>75161668
>with 5/10 set to average, you get half of the scale worse and half of the scale better
So why median instead of mean or mode?

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>>75161709
>average
>median

>>75161781
Never taken a class on statistics before?

>>75161811
I have, actually. The median value denotes an equal chance of falling on either side of said value without regard to the qualities of those values.

w.r.t. statistics, "mean" is synonymous with "average". While the median can also happen to be the average, this is not necessarily so.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that "half of the scale worse and half of the scale better" was a mistake, but you're both wrong.

Would you like to keep going ?

>>75161709
why not? The more ratings you do the more your scale will approach a bell curve and at that point all three will be equal

>>75161863
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average#Median

>>75161875
>The more ratings you do the more your scale will approach a bell curve and at that point all three will be equal
That's a strange assumption on the distribution of the quality of albums

>>75161876
You just posted exactly what I said.

>>75161890
Do you have trouble reading friend?

> In statistics, mean, median, and mode are all known as measures of central tendency, and in colloquial usage sometimes any of these might be called an average value.

>>75161883
So is assuming that most are inherently good or bad. In any case, assuming most are middle of the road i.e. dead center on a scale allows you to use full range of the scale with more finess on rating albums you like AND albums you dislike.

>>75161900
>attempt to create an academic context for a conversation by bringing up statistics courses
>attempt to change course by citing "colloquial" language existing outside aforesaid academic context

No dissonance here, no sir !

>>75161169
>>75161116
>>75161079

You are one of the worst, most pretentious trips on this board. Fuck off.

>>75161938
>assuming most are middle of the road i.e. dead center on a scale allows you to use full range of the scale with more finess on rating albums you like AND albums you dislike.
that's assuming there's as many on each side, but why? it's less important to finesse low ratings

>>75161944

You always try to engage in these pseudo arguments to seem smart. You're literally arguing about nothing with strangers on the internet. Jesus.

>>75161988
I don't believe that you know what that word means :o)

>>75161944
>>attempt to create an academic context for a conversation by bringing up statistics courses
Because you don't seem like the type of person to learn statistics outside of an academic context

>>attempt to change course by citing "colloquial" language existing outside aforesaid academic context
We're still on the same course

>>75161996
So you don't need 0/10-6.9/10 for trash to below decent
It would actually be better if you have 2/10 as decent then the rest of the scale to rank your favorites.

>>75162001

Noone who is pretentious has the self-awareness to admit to it. Read over the things you write and if you can't see that you're a total jackass then you're blind.

>>75162032
>So you don't need 0/10-6.9/10 for trash to below decent
Why not?

>It would actually be better if you have 2/10 as decent then the rest of the scale to rank your favorites.
several dictionaries define decent as 'fairly good', there's not enough room for 8 tiers of finesse in those ratings

>>75161999
>always try
Calm down, soyboy.
>pseudo arguments
I admit when I'm wrong, it just doesn't appear to happen often. Probably because I don't intentionally argue about things I don't know anything about. You guys might learn something from that.

>>75162007
>attempt to into semantics
>cannot into semantics
Attempting to create a context for the word "median" (as learned through statistics) necessitates the academic definition for median which I already posted. Once it became clear that I knew the definition (because you learn it in the fucking second grade), you attempted to cite "sometimes colloquial" use of the word which by definition exists outside of the context in which you had already brought up. This is either dishonest or ignorant, I don't care much which.

>>75162051
You know, you can always just filter me and stop shitposting if I make you so upset. You don't need to follow me around :o)

>>75162057
You said it yourself, it's less important to finesse low ratings. You don't need over half of the scale to rate albums you don't like and squish the albums you DO like up top.

>>75162071
>Attempting to create a context for the word "median" (as learned through statistics) necessitates the academic definition for median which I already posted. Once it became clear that I knew the definition (because you learn it in the fucking second grade), you attempted to cite "sometimes colloquial" use of the word which by definition exists outside of the context in which you had already brought up.
Of course I need to bring up an "academic context" to see if you even know what the word meant. How can you use the word colloquially if it's not even defined?

>>75162085
>You said it yourself, it's less important to finesse low ratings.
Right, which is why they're all in the
<=5/10 forgettable-tier

>You don't need over half of the scale to rate albums you don't like and squish the albums you DO like up top.
In what way are they 'squished'?

>>75162071

This is the first time that I've replied to you. I've seen on two seperate occasions that people have said almost the same thing i have. And they weren't being vicious for the sake of it. You obviously think very highly of yourself. I don't come to /mu/ much anymore but idk, someone struck me when I saw your posts. How old are you? 18-21?

>>75162096
>how can you use the word in X context (where usage in X context has a unique meaning) if you don't even know the definition in Y context ?!
Never taken a class on linguistics before?

>>75162107
>This is the first time that I've replied to you.
I believe you !

>>75162116

Alright, well have a good/night man. You're probably going through some stuff, get better

>>75162130
Please seek help for your obsession, I hope you pull through it. We're all rooting for you, little buddy.

>>75162116
>how can you use the word in X context (where usage in X context has a unique meaning)
But the use was colloquial, where it doesn't have a unique meaning... did you already forget this post >>75161900

>>75162140

?

Kool A.D. - Sky Ladder and Billy Woods - Known Unknowns in Good Tier
Sean Price - Imperius Rex in decent tier
>also stop the jokez & put 4:44 into atleast decent tier

Check out "MIKE - May God Bless Your Hustle"

>>75162141
>the use was colloquial
Which is why you attempted to establish that I knew irrelevant information (the definition outside of colloquial context), right ?

To simplify further, let's put it this way. The definition of "median" is different within the different contexts we use it (obviously). So...
formal / academic context: median means the definition here >>75161863
>The median value denotes an equal chance of falling on either side of said value without regard to the qualities of those values
informal / colloquial context: median means the same as above, with the addition of _sometimes_ also being able to be substituted for the word "average"

With no condescension, I think that this is going over your head.

>>75162146
Do you need to talk about it ?

>>75161594

Wrong, Anthony Fantano said it once in one of his meme videos

>>75162105
Because you only have 7-10/10 to rate albums you like. I mean sure you can rate those in a rather uninflated way (not just throwing out 10/10s willy-nilly) but at that point I don't see why you wouldn't just put "decent" at a lower number and just have fun with it.

Anyway y'all I gotta go to bed. Regardless of if I'm "right" or you're "right" I have to end the conversation here. Not trying to totally disrespectfully deflect your points at all or anything.

>>75162189
>I've ever seen

>>75162188

Fair enough, I guess you're right. Sorry for being a dick.

>>75162188
>Which is why you attempted to establish that I knew irrelevant information (the definition outside of colloquial context), right ?
How can a word be used colloquially if you don't know the definition of the word to begin with?


To simplify further, let's put it this way. The definition of "median" is different within the different contexts we use it (obviously). So...
formal / academic context: median means the definition here >>75161863
>The median value denotes an equal chance of falling on either side of said value without regard to the qualities of those values
informal / colloquial context: median means the same as above, with the addition of _sometimes_ also being able to be substituted for the word "average"
But these definitions are the same, it's just about what you refer to it as.

>>75162197
>Because you only have 7-10/10 to rate albums you like.
Why do you need more?

>>75161067
who told you to think by milo?

>>75162249
it's there

>>75162203
>How can a word be used colloquially if you don't know the definition of the word to begin with?
Is this a serious question ? It happens frequently and with great ease- this is actually how language typically evolves !

>But these definitions are the same
Incorrect. The formal definition is prescriptive (this is what the word means whether used correctly or not) while the informal definition is descriptive (this is how the word is used outside of formal context where language is not regulated).

The formal definition is rigidly defined while the informal definition changes with use.

TO SIMPLIFY EVEN FURTHER:
Formal: Definition "A"
Informal: Definition "A"+ definition "B"
The difference between the two is definition "B" (sometimes used to mean "average")
Because there is a difference between the two, they are not the same.

QED

>>75162265
>Is this a serious question ?
Yes


>Incorrect.
but you said it yourself, "median means the same as above". "also being able to be substituted for the word "average"" doesn't change the meaning of the word median

>>75162265

Okay...

Are you alright?

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>>75162284
>a change in the conversational function of a word does not change the meaning of the word

>>75162315

The level of depth you take to troll and shitpost is inspiring. If I wasn't a piece of shit I'd probably look down on you.

>>75162315
Who are you quoting?

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>>75162265
@ >>75162212

>>75162291
I didn't mean to quote you :o(

>>75162325
Oh, forgot we're playing for petties.
>[an addition to the meaning of the word "median" which fundamentally alters the conversational function of the word "median"] doesn't change the meaning of the word median
There you go.

>>75162346
>[an addition to the meaning of the word "median" which fundamentally alters the conversational function of the word "median"] doesn't change the meaning of the word median
Let me fix this for you:
>[an alteration in the conversational function of the word "median"] doesn't change the meaning of the word median
Which is of course correct

>>75162379
The conversational function of a word _IS_ the meaning of the word, dingus. The word exists as it is used within the contexts people use it.

You do not know what you are talking about.

>>75162402
What additional meaning does [_sometimes_ also being able to be substituted for the word "average"] give to median? Using the word median instead of average doesn't change the meaning of median

>>75162496
>What additional meaning does [_sometimes_ also being able to be substituted for the word "average"] give to median?
You serious nigga ?

The X mixtape isn't even legit. Tha God Fahim release you have posted isn't even the best Fahim release this year. Dump Gawd, Dump Gawd 4 and Conflict of Roosevelt Creek are all way better.

Also both Shabazz Palaces records this year were trash.

>>75162515
>You serious nigga ?
go on...

>>75162524
Idk man, I explained it step by step here >>75162265
like I get if you're shitposting for epic lulz or whatever the /b/ crowd does nowadays but if you genuinely don't understand what I said I think you might just have to wait until you're older

>>75162543
>Idk man, I explained it step by step here >>75162265
Nothing in that post is a candidate for additional meaning given to median by [_sometimes_ also being able to be substituted for the word "average"]. If anything that adds meaning to the word average, since it allows it to mean the median, which was how it was used the first time in this thread.

>>75162571
>Nothing in that post is a candidate for additional meaning
Incorrect. See >>75162265
>Informal: Definition "A"+ definition "B"
Definition "B" contains within it an expansion of the parameters for Definition "A". If A and A+B do not communicate the same exact meaning, then they have different meanings.

This is no longer interesting. Please take an entry level linguistics course. I dislike continually explaining remedial concepts to plebs.

The Underachievers - Renaissance
Cousin Stizz - One Night Only
Oddisee - The Iceberg

>>75162670
>>75162543
>>75162524
this whole debate is really tickling my cortex didn't know /mu/ was actually capable of discussion
>>75162670
you're less despiseable than the average trip

great music guys