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http://www.npr.org/2017/09/14/550446122/first-listen-godspeed-you-black-emperor-luciferian-towers

Listen to it here senpai
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>>75149751
>on F a m/Famine
>nothing interesting has happened yet
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its fuckin lit
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NO
EXPORT
TO
I S R A E L
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This just felt aimless
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>>75149751
Wait, this thing is out and nobody is talking about it?
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>>75150404
/pol/ and jews have memed every attempt to discuss it to death
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ascunder sweet sounded really bad in the npr stream. is it the same here? It almost ruined the experience for me
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>>75150432
>le /pol/ boogeyman
Everyone shitposts every time the album is mentioned because it sucks. The first track was released and it came with a cringey as fuck manifesto about being anarcho-communists and the song itself was derivative and boring. Ded band.
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>>75150432
It'd help if the music gave something to talk about
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>>75150474
This started the instant the album was announced and before anything was released, stop pretending and own up to it
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>>75150501
lol own up to what? What the fuck do you think this website is? Are you trying to shame me on an anonymous imageboard?
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>>75150548
I'm shaming you for pretending to not have done something on an anonymous imageboard
Imagine being THIS much of a coward when there's nothing at stake.
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>>75149751
>inb4 fuck drumpf and fuck white people
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>>75150569
You're punching at the wind. Who exactly do you expect to "catch"?
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>another 40 minute album
let me know when they release something more substantial
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Did they really go avant garde metal like the promo material suggested?
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Sounds kind of latin
Might one say...mariachi Mogwai?
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>>75150666
t. swans fan
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hey /mu/ watch this: I'm gonna close this thread, listen to this album, and probably enjoy it because I really like Godspeed's work.
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I'd honestly rather Efrim made some more ASMZ than new GY!BE
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Basically everyone in this thread should gas themselves alive.
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>>75150722
k pleb
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>>75150717
more a gybe guy desu
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>>75149751
Senpai / Famine is aight
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>>75150684
>mariachi
It's like people have never heard F#A infinity or any Morricone soundtracks
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it's alright but they killed Railroads
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It's good but I think that the NPR stream is diminishing the quality.

The spotify release of the last track sounds so much better
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>>75150956
Just trying to make the mariachi slipknot joke sorry
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Besides Mladic, I haven't been that impressed with their return
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why does it sound like it was recorded in the same session as asunder?

so far the only moment i liked was the end of bosses hang pt III
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>>75151123
Same engineers, mixing team worked on it. I agree that the production isn't unique at all
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>>75151066
We Drift Like Worried Fire is also great. Honestly I'm impressed with that whole album.
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Well... that was dissapointing. Splitting the big tracks in parts was a terrible idea, the way the tracks grow feel less natural than in previous albums.
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>>75151066
Pleneian
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>>75151066
That whole album is great but that's because they wrote it before the hiatus...Asunder is their worst release imo.
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This is the sound of a band running on empty. The sound of a group whose legendary status is pushed aside and instead replaced with a cheap imitation. The sound of a band not caring. The sound of a band striving to achieve yet ultimately failing horribly. GY!BE still have a special place in my heart, of course, but Luciferian Towers feels like a mockery of what they do best and an overall “fuck you” to the genre they helped define. What should have been a brand new creative peak for the band is instead a soft, quiet whimper. GY!BE have many impressive, stellar, and unparalleled releases. This is definitely not one of them.
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>>75151248
k but how's the actual music though
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>>75151476
Shit
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>>75149751
>album art is a black & white photo of a derelict building: the band
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>>75151248
every time a band writes something minimalist or stripped down some asshole has to come along and say they have no ideas because music can only move in one direction apparently: more, louder, faster, and anything other than that means "they're not even trying". This is braindead criticism that doesn't mean anything

it sounds ok but i'm waiting for a real leak/the bandcamp release because the audio seemed different on the first track than the version on their bandcamp
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>>75151248
They just lack ambition and inspiration these days. Their creative peak was 17 years ago. Just look at the lengths of these releases and that tells the tale. They'll keep most hardcore fans happy with these releases, tour, please Constellation, make some cash, release another shallow 40 minute allbum, rise and repeat.
>>75151240
It's weird to see this band cater to anyone, much less itunes, Constellation or whatever/whoever made that decision
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>>75151579
Their new music isn't minimalistic at all. They've traded their Reich/Pärt/Górecki influences for bands like Neurosis/Earth/Swans/Hawkwind/The Dead C
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>>75151579
I'd agree if this album wasn't uninspired stream of consciousness post-rock. Just felt like aimless playing the whole time.
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>>75151646
it's repetitive but it feel meandering, the tracks carry almost no emotion or tension.
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>>75151663
They're bordering self-parody. These releases are just cashins to make fans/Constellation happy. The imagination is gone.
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>>75151670
I think I'm agreeing with you
>>75151708
Maybe. I think the more likely reason is that they're older now. No where near as politically motivated (and yes I've seen the press release), artistic, and have more stable ordinary lives.
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Reminder that you're all retarded and giving into a knee jerk reaction on some really layered music with ample twists and turns. If Fantano or p4k praise this and you flip your stance on the band and their music, please do me a solid and give up on music for the remainder of your existence.
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>>75151646
it is minimalist in the sense that it's not immediately attention-grabbing and isn't trying to be. even though a lot of gy!be songs are slow burners with a lot of empty space, their guitar playing is normally quite "hooky" and is actually similar to a lot of post-hardcore, hence why they did an album with Albini with post-harcore style drumming before splitting up. Earth also jacked the nu post-rock style Godspeed used to play for their recent albums
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>>75151798
These new gy!be releases don't have a ton of empty space though. Timbre wise, they no longer sound like a band inspired by those minimalist composers. The chamber aesthetic and production values are gone, and the emotional aspect of their music has radically changed.
>their guitar playing is normally quite "hooky" and is actually similar to a lot of post-hardcore, hence why they did an album with Albini with post-harcore style drumming before splitting up.
No disagreements here.
>Earth also jacked the nu post-rock style Godspeed used to play for their recent albums
I think they have definitely borrowed some textures from them along with the other artists I mentioned.
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>>75150981
this goes from 5/10 to a 7/10 with that on it
>>75151066
agreed
>>75151246
agreed
>>75151248
it's spiritless
>>75151793
people actually change their ratings because of those two?
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>>75151793
I expect them both to rip this album apart, so no issue here
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>>75151708
>They're bordering self-parody
>tfw they're doing this on purpose
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it's great
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My thoughts:
>Undoing a Lucifierian Towers
Like the cacophony. 8/10
>Bosses Hang
Not bad. Why do those guitars sound like shit at the beginning though? 7/10
>Famine
A worse version of the first track 3/10
>Anthem for No State
They butchered this one with that 6 minute removal. And once again the guitars sound like garbage. 5/10

This record has some major production and editing issues
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sounds like a slightly better version of Asunder which was nothing special in the first place
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>>75151976
i'm talking about quiet and subtle vs. loud and immediate. i don't really see how classical enters into it. their music never had more than the barest, most surface level resemblance to classical music. other post rock acts like Rachels, maybe. but Godspeed was always a heady reinterpretation of pop music.
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>>75152528
I'm talking sound and sonically as well. I'm not saying that their music has a technical resemblance to classical music, but sonically Slow Riot and LYSF did share a resemblance. They're more loud and immediate now, where the artists they were previously inspired by were more quiet and subtle
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I like it but yeah it really sounds exactly like the previous album.
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>>75151248
10/10
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>>75150666
Would you rather have them relaese 120+ minute tedious albums ala latter day Swans?
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>>75152836
no just something more complete like they used to
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>>75150675
There's some very heavy drone but I wouldn't call it metal
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>>75152473
Pretty much my thoughts on it. Though I do like Bosses Hang enough to give it a 8/10.
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Why do people hate Assunder? I don't get it, it doesn't reach the quality of Mladic but if you take it as just one song (Behemoth) it is pretty good, with an amazing ending. Is it because of the long drone section?
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>>75153436
It's because it doesn't feel like one song as opposed to the live version
also production sucks
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Something about the mixing on this is killing me, it's just a mess of too much sound and I can't pick anything out
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Dude, I've been hyped for this album for 2 years for 1 reason. I saw them play Railroads live in 2015 and I think my fucking brain melted. Like, holy shit, when Moya started twangin' out that Morricone shit (the part that is now AFNS III) I literally watched the whole band look up and smile. They stared at the floor for 2 hours and then there was this moment of "fuck yeah that's good shit". And they fucking neutered it.

The flow of the song is so fucked now. The transition between I and II is just, well, abrupt at best. ANFS should have 4 parts, because cutting part II is the worst thing they've done maybe ever. Shit, even if you hated Asunder you got what they played. They didn't change a fuckin' thing with it and it was for the best. Shit man, the buildup in (what WOULD be) Part II was one of the best things about the song.

I would say something about the rest of the album but, desu, Buildings was always "cool" but it was never good or great GYBE. The best thing I can say about the other 2 tracks is that they aren't more half-effort aimless drones like we got on Asunder and ADBA. Oh, and let's not even get into the mixing on this album. Christ, never thought I'd be nostalgic for the mixing quality on Yanqui.

Son of a bitch I am so goddamn butthurt and melting down and QQ and go ahead and make fun of me but FUCK ME couldn't they have just said "fuck it" and done the full, badass version of Railroads? I could forgive the rest of the album but they castrated the one truly good thing they've done since they returned.

Signed,
A fucking huge GYBE fan who knows it's probably over at this point.
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>>75153732
Probably in part because it's a NPR stream.
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I used to cry all the time to their albums.
Their 2012 effort made me turn my life around.
Sad to see such great band turn up two shitty albums one after another.

The mixing on this is even worse than on Asunder.
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Before I listen, is this more like lift your skinny fists and f# or is it more like the trash that is the allejuha one and asunder
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>>75153436
Because they should have made Asunder into an EP. That's one album that actually should have been edited down.
>>75153732
Agreed. Everything sounds congested.
>>75153755
We'll always have the Hamburg version of Railroads anon. Agreed on the mixing. I'd take the skeletal mixing on Yanqui over this mess
>>75154454
I don't think the uptick in quality is going to hide the production issues
>>75154561
agreed :(
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>>75154582
It's more like the latter. Be prepared for another shallow 40 minute release. At least ADBA had better production
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I like the change in compositional style from the long builds to a more ebb and flow one (ala Yanqui). Sonically, they have drastically regressed though. There's nothing about these sounds that stand out among any other Post Rock or Noise Rock group
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>>75153436
the problem is that it isn't just one song, which is what it should have been
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seems like do make say think are the only post rock band worth their salt
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>>75153755
>tfw missed that tour because my ride bailed at the last second so I decided not to drive the 2 hours to the show.
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>>75154777
trips don't lie. that new DMST album delivered the goods.
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For everyone criticizing the mixing/production, Greg Norman seems to be the common denominator as he was the recording engineer on both LT and Asunder. He also mixed Mt. Zion's Fuck Off Get Free a couple of years ago , and has been the engineer for Pelican, Russian Circles, and Locrian in the past.
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>>75154777
Waste of trips on the most overrated post-rock band of all time
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>>75154778
>>75153755
>tfw you'll never get to see Railroads live
>>75154839
that makes sense
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The ending (kinda?) captures the magic from lift and fa, but its said that i needed to listen through this whole pile of shit to get to something.

Their earlier releases triggered some emotions i never even know i had, but this just feels bland, not as bad as asunder, but still fucking bad.

And the worst part is - i dont really know if it is me getting older or them.
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>>75154907
No way, this is way worse than Asunder. The first and last song of Asunder at least had some direction and interesting parts that made up for the droning. This just felt like rambling.
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>>75154777
>Do Make Say Think releases a 60 minute album, gybe can barely make a 40 minute one
kill me now
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>>75154948
this 100%
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>>75154948
To each their own. I loved yanqui, i loved dont bend, but asunder just fucking broke me, this shit was so fucking boring, it felt like it was some childs first attempt at drone. The first drum lick feels like it goes for 40 minutes, through the whole album. The biggest disappointment in my life, musically, to be honest.
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>>75154907
>>75154948
The fact that we could agree that they're both vastly underwhelming shows that they haven't evolved from 2003 at all. Maybe Norsola Johnson, Bruce Cawdron, and Roger Tellier-Craig were more important to the band than we thought?
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>>75155037
Not sure about that. I do miss Norsola's cello and Bruce's glockenspiiel though
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>>75155017
Yanqui has actually improved over time just because of how appalling the last two releases have been
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>>75151248
Only 98 minutes of new music since 2011. They are completely mailing it in...
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>>75155037
They gave the band a more chamber ensemble feel and a broader instrumental palette if that's what you mean by important
>>75155184
length /=/ ambition or innspiration
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>>75155258
They've declined in both
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>>75154598
>Hamburg version of Railroads
I've been searching but cant find what you are talking about.
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>>75155403
https://youtu.be/NBJoNhcArN4
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>>75154778
>>75155403
>>75155596
This is what would have taken the album from what it is right now to at least Yanqui level good. On a standalone track basis, Railroads was up there with some of their best.
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>>75155596
man this is so fucking good

what happened
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>>75155596
that change to G# at 10:24 always makes me hnggg
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>>75155596
holy shit, why would they change this?
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>>75155596
lol and they replaced Sophie's violin with an organ at 11:50. this fucking band
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>>75149751
kek post rock sucks
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>>75155800
Apparently FaM / Famine was more crucial to the album then keeping this at 22 minutes
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Asunder is just as great as Allelujah

if you disagree, you're wrong
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>Live version of Undoing a Luciferian Towers is 23 minutes long
>Album version is just 8 minutes

JUST
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>>75150734
Same
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>>75149751
Figure I best weigh in, everyone else is doing it...

First track sucked first listen, made me feel like I was being pitched another Asunder.
I enjoyed the final track (Anthem 3) when it came out, particularly the cymbals towards the end and the melody at the very end.
Got a chance to hear the full stream today, and honestly compared to the rest of the content the first track has grown on me.
Didn't like Bosses Hang. Feels like they're recycling the hymn dynamic thing to a bit of an extreme. Reminds me of grunge, or radio country.
Senpai/Famine wasn't fun. Hearing it compared to the more recent drone tracks I think I still prefer stuff like Their Helicopters Sing.
Anthem was obviously the high point for me, and I still like the last part the best. If it means anything, F#A#'s my very favorite. I love Allelujah.
4.5/10, but I was stupid enough to drop actual cash on a digital preorder so I guess I have to listen to it again lol
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baka senpai
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>>75157431
undoing is so much better than either of the drone tracks on asunder. there's more cacophony, more layers, rhythm that carries the momentum of the song very well, and a very nice climax (though I wish the climax was longer)
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>>75154843
Completely untrue but nice try.
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mega link when?
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>when the horns come in at the end

How can anyone hate this album?
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>>75159681
that moment matches the beauty of any moment in LYSF as far as I'm concerned. Unfortunately the rest of the album is no where near as good, but it's still a solid album and imo better than asunder.
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>>75159990
no. fuck off. this thread has been good so far, you're not gonna ruin it with your political bullshit.
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Railroads is so much better than Anthem. Shame they shaved off so much of the first half. Anthem, while finishing off very strongly, feels a lot less fleshed out than Railroads.
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I really loved Buildings, or at least the recorded version we had of it. But Bosses Hang somehow falls short... I guess it was the perspective? It doesn't really seem like they changed the composition much. The guitars sound weird.

Hate that they took out my favourite part from Railroads as well, but at least the version here is still presented well. Those horns are damn amazing. The rest of the album is pretty disappointing filler, though.
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>>75157036
This. The drone tracks are more cerebral and engaging than the meandering and aimless ones off of ADBA. Mladic is the definite highlight of their reunion, but anyone saying Pissed Crowns isn't amazing needs to get their ears checked.
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>>75159508
newalbumreleases.net
soulseek
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>>75161073
Finally someone gets it. People don't notice that in Asunder it goes up-down-up-up. Drones in the middle seamlessly and gracefully die down then resurrect again. All the tone shifts between tracks give me shivers.
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Is the leak just a rip of NPR stream?
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Why don't we make our own version of Luciferian Towers rearranging shit and including that sweet live version ? Name it Venussian Pillars or something.
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Reminder that HRSTA and Black Ox Orchestar died for this album. Was it worth it?
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does it have any voice clips or samples? thats literally what makes or breaks it for me and the reason asunder sucked.
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>>75162945
Is HRSTA worth getting into?

Favourite GY!BE offshoot right here
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>>75163096
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkVenDN7Y9A
see for yourself
moya's voice takes some getting used to but it fits the music perfectly. like an old granny singing about the end of the world.
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>>75163096
>>75163124
>>75162945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O390akn0Iys
Some day Exhaust will have a fanbase. Some day.
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>>75163147
>>75162945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8TL4wGBx5g
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>>75163159
is there some opposite of a shabbas goy I can hire to translate these sand squiggles for me
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>>75163178
somebody posted the lyrics further down in the comments. its about a solder going off to war and dying
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>>75163189
:o(
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>>75154777
>do make say think
But this years album was shit. The fuck are you talking about.
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>>75163096
Of course, their second and third albums are great.
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https://clyp.it/itjal3jz
how hard was that?
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>>75161412
yes
>>75161892
do it mang
>>75154839
it does sound like a Pelican record
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This band broke my heart.

They should NEVER have come back from hiatus.

All of their material feels cheapened as a result.
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what the hell are luciferian towers and what does all the album art mean anyways
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>>75154907
their new music has a severe lack of emotion
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why is every album title in 'quotations' now
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>>75164678
ADBA is at least alright
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>>75164678
Don't bend ascend is great fuck you
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>>75164818
>is too emotional
>people say it's emotionally dishonest

>gets less emotional
>it's lacking emotion
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>>75164938
Yeah this band can't win in the eyes of some. Wish we got something more comprehensive than another 40 minute album though
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>>75164902
cause it looks cool I guess
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It's a shame this is getting a mix reaction, I for one actually really loved ASOD and was looking forward to this. I'll listen and hopefully enjoy though.
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>listens to He Has Left Us Alone instead
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>>75165177
Early ASMZ is true comfycore
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>>75165177
comfy
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>Part 1
>Part 2
>Part 3
Jesus christ, just make it one track. How difficult is it?
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Halfway through, first track was so-so but Bosses Hang was good. The finale sounds exactly like the ending of Asunder though.

>>75165405
I've never understood why people do this. If they're actually two separate songs sure, but splitting a single track up just means that if you're using a player which doesn't support gapless you've got massive fucking jarring pauses right in the middle of the music.
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>>75165453
I think they(or Constellation) want those spotify and itunes numbers. It's ridiculous no matter the justification
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>>75165504
That literally goes against everything they stand for as a band.
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>>75165560
no shit, It's like you never seen communists irl
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I'm just gonna stitch the songs together in audacity u don't give a fuuuck
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>>75165805
I will probably also do this. I did it for ASOD.
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>>75165834
Hmm I might try that. Just call it Behemoth then huh
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>>75165560
I don't think they care about their perceived integrity anymore. These last two albums have been their most accessible, shortest, least imaginative, most straightforward yet. They are simple cashins to fund their other side projects, keep Constellation happy, and have some new material to tour with. Nothing more.
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>>75165881
>>75165834
probably the right way to do it
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>>75166053
ouch
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Post-Rock is fucking trash anyway
Who fucking cares lol
First Wave is the only thing worth listening out of this pretentious movement
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>>75154692
Fucking this, I'm not gonna claim I know much about songwriting or music theory but I know my fucking sonic textures and these are just dead and grounded. Their old work took you to another realm, here I'm in the studio. Some people like that, I don't want that. I don't want to feel at all like I'm hearing guitars or violins when I listen to Godspeed.
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>tfw Senpai/Famine
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Talk Talk and Sigur Ros are the only Post-Rock Bands to have a 10/10. Also 2 of the only Post Rock Bands that have a truly unique identity.


Prove me wrong.
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>>75167178
lel
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>>75167347
this
Godspeed was pretty unique at it's prime but it's now copying bands who copied them lmao
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>>75167347
Agaetis Byrjun is an 8/10. F#A# is a 10/10.
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>>75167347
Untitled is an 8
LYSF is a 10
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>>75166387
>calls post-rock pretentious
>posts one of the most pretentious albums of the genre
rly makes me think
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>>75167472
>Talk Talk
>pretentious
???
it's just a very relaxing ambient/jazz rock album
I only picked it because it's branded as Post-Rock
what's so pretentious about it?
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>>75167178
kek
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>>75164938
>people say it's emotionally dishonest
What is a meme?
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