Daily reminder that goth/post-punk is better than punk in every way.

This is correct.

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HE'S JUST CAPTURED FOR SLAUGHTER

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Which one /mu/?

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>>75101257
Daily reminder that you don't need to remind me of this daily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP5eSjw00yI

goth/post punk is nu-male punk

>>75101361
Label me what you will it's not going to change anything.

if you're a bitch

>>75101336
number 4, no contest

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>>75101326
Did you know the Joker's face is based off Jaz Coleman's?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMuLO2jDmNc

Who are the best old-school goth bands? I'm looking for late 70s, early 80s bands. I already know the essentials like The Cure, Bauhaus, Souxsie, Christian Death, Joy Division, Sisters Of Mercy, etc.

>>75101597
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry is a great band. Talk About the Weather is fantastic.
The March Violets were labelmates with the Sisters.
Type O Negative were fantastic.

>>75101361
Agreed, but it's still by far the best of the two.

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daily reminder that TG era industrial wipes the floor with anything punk at all

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>>75101597
Ahh, shit. Well at the top of my head in no particular order, not counting the ones you named:

killing joke
1919
the damned
depeche mode
the chameleons
pink turns blue
red lorry yellow lorry
christian death
cabaret voltaire
type o negative
dead can dance
eastern bloc baby
13th chime
scarecrow
nightfeast
sisters of mercy
the birthday party
Luna (yugoslavian post-punk), check out Vila 1983 demo

I had to skim through my library a little, but that's a bunch of post-punk/new wave/gothy synth pop crap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0zDkFvLXRU

Instead of arguing about genres, can we actually discuss goth music? I love it.

Punk is for nu-males who think they're tough
Post-punk is for nu-males who think they're troubled existentialists like those cool French dudes they masturbate to
Oi! is a true man's music

>>75101336
1 teebeeaych.

Posting some more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlUx5cPLAM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRYKv2X5ZuE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJsLy5Lff54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Fm2VTfva5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RorSmOwKj4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQHOfjemCuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqUFHLZW9_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kq-YRc2EMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y54gqncqps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSod15rVfDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mUQpMX81_E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8z8fm0cYkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLDHr5r0iIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ct05iktH94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flqejy9xAGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eow9h52ewiw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQhHjiGUAcE

>>75101257
if you are a manlet in a cardigan maybe

>>75101336
4 > 1 > 3 > 2

>>75101336
3 looks like a delicate goth princess.

>>75101825
related to Luna, check out Pekinska Patka's album Strad od Monotonije

>>75101336
3

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The Soft Moon

https://youtu.be/zWbAbIybfCQ

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Click Click

Hands Fall Backwards
https://youtu.be/y65QMG4Xux4

Awake & Watching
https://youtu.be/QW3HJiE2pl4

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Do other goth waifus even come close?

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>>75104658
Cool, I'll check 'em out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMtx8mizzck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ8dMHXZ37k

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Purr Machine

Speak Clearly
https://youtu.be/k2dw7E7zBX4

Squirm While You Can
https://youtu.be/cR1vJddWbEY

Elasticized
https://youtu.be/50XRljb_1Po

I like the music but that Goth fashion is some gay shit.

>>75105110
Close your eyes then.

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Sleep Chamber is good for the dark side of Industrial. Think of them as America's heterosexual answer to Coil.

Salome
https://youtu.be/dYKSqXy8JYg

El Topo
https://youtu.be/zOUNgpQpOMI

>>75101336
1, she looks cool

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I like my Goth corny too

45 Grave - Evil
https://youtu.be/a1dn1XKMR3s

Alien Sex Fiend - EST (Trip to the Moon)
https://youtu.be/Tqbwu02E0HU

The Cramps
https://youtu.be/9TR6QuOj-Gw

>>75101361
at this point in time, punk itself is nu-male punk what's with pro-tranny acts like against me and all that horseshit running about

Punk has always been a hypocritical garbage scene that despite their tantrums was never countet cultural, only 2 good albums in the genre exist. The rest is fucking garbage. Punk is the safest blandest genre there ever was

>>75104472
Rowland S Howard is criminally underrated on this board. Probably my favourite guitarist to come out of my country. All the other stuff you posted is fucking fantastic too

>>75101361
Every modern punk band is gimmicky riot grrl shit or the same boring shit that has already been done, except this time the guitarist/vocalist is transgender

>>75106886
>Modern
>implying punk was ever good

>>75101257
Goth here, not at all disagreeing. I swear, /mu/ needs more /dark/.

>>75101679
TG era industrial wipes the floor with everything else called "industrial."

>>75104842
1/2

>>75107020
Wrong but ok

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>>75107033

>>75107007
>Goth here
Literally not a single goth in history would be caught dead saying they're goth.
Retarded millenial.

>>75107034
OG Industrial is best, Post-Industrial can suck edgelord cock.

>>75107043
Fuck off gatekeeper.

>>75107043
>Trying this hard

>>75107050
Industrial was always edgy unique snowflake tier shit.
Not saying it's bad, but have some intellectual honesty here.

>>75107062
You could try, at all.
It's like the ABC of the entire subculture, defining oneself as "goth" back in the day pretty much marked you as a poser asshole, everyone knows that.

>>75107043
you're obviously not a goth bc I am actually a goth, most of my friends are goths and we call eachother and ourselves goths all the time cuz we're goth

>>75107050
Not him. But no. Good shit under the Post Industrial umbrella.

ESA
Pneumatic Detach
Terrorfakt
Rose Red Flechette
wk [es]
https://youtu.be/3t-OqWoNRfg

>>75107075
>Listens to goth music
>Dresses goth
NO WE'RE NOT GOTH GUYS GOD

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>>75107081
FUCK OFF FUCKING PREP WE WUZ TRU GOFF

>>75107065
Industrial was about artistic expression, not trying to look as scary or extreme as possible like shock rockers or Post-Industrialists.
>>75107091
Still not as good as 1st wave, 1st wave is life.

>>75107065
What's there to be honest about? Meaningless buzzwords?

>>75107196
>Industrial was about artistic expression
C'mon, that's such a bullshit answer.
Fucking 99% of all music centered subcultures were about artistic expression, at that point we're arguing that specific artists approached them in a superficial way, so by that reasoning just going "everything after this point is fake and superficial" just becomes a broad generalization.

>>75107243
It's only bullshit because you don't like it, SPK and TG were using aesthetic extremism to advocate for their philisophical and political agendas. Downgraded their efforts to "uah sew ejiiee." Do you even avant, bro?

>>75101336
all of them

I wanna pat their floofy heads so bad

pof pof

>>75107275
*you downgraded their efforts

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>>75107279
Fuck off. I pof'd pof'd them first.

>>75101825
Lmao what's the gif from my dude?

>>75107335
Seriously? The movie Beetlejuice.

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>>75107042
>>75107033
>>75104842
2/2

>>75107335
I'm getting too old for this board. :c

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>>75107314
pof pof pof pof pof

>>75107374
Don't worry anon, that faggot either lived a deprived life or is underage b&.

>>75107351
Cheers

>>75101825
>eastern bloc baby
i think you meant the ochrana my man, dl their shit now btw

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>>75104842
Diane Birch ... when she's feeling Gothy.

https://youtu.be/MbXqpuaRO4c

>>75107424
meh

>>75107392
That was a little uncalled for and I still feel old.

>>75107417
Yeah, I just realized. I had their folder as Eastern bloc baby this whole time. I gotta be up soon night guys

>>75107335
Beetlejuice
Beetlejuice
Beetlejuice

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>>75107434
Meh?

>>75107494
eeeeh

>>75104842
DIAMANDA GALÁS

but anyway i'm gay, so she's more like my idol/goddess sorta thing

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>>75107494
Dinah says fuck off.

>>75101361

it is, with an added air of smug pretension

>>75107548
>smug pretention
Welcome to The Bolshoi
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WRfMErnGLlE

>>75107513
This gave me Cancer

>>75107631
I like you.

>>75107513
top floof

Friendly reminder that Hardcore punk makes this stuff sound like Lady Gaga.

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>>75107784
Forgot this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95qheNr1_fs

They may look like Lady Gagas.

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N E V A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQX_Yffdtjw

>>75107784
If all you care is harsh sounds and that's how you decide if music is great or not, you might as well just blast noise 24/7.

>>75107807
I blast noise too, but no that's not how i decide if something is great or not.
Here is a pretty good gothpunk album.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsC5oDnE_Tw

>>75106603
>American Idiot is a concept album which mocks the punk community, showcasing them as people who destroy their lives and relationships with their cancerous attitude.
Really makes you think

>>75107842
pretty sure it actually glamorizes this state of things

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*blocks your way*

>>75107905
No matter how hard one tries, most facial hair just doesn't work with pale make up.
Maybe a soul patch or a very short goatee, basically anything that is extremely well taken care of and "squared", not this gross ass neckbeard shit.
It really makes your facial hair stand out way too much, they start to look like pubes.

At least punk rock is ersatz relative only to the genres that build from it (hardcore, power violence, grind, etc.) all of which is among the best at what it tries to do. Goth/post-punk is ersatz relative to music that existed before and after these genres, being very inferior takes on moody music that offer a watered down affair. This is without mentioning how melodramatic the genre is when it comes to approaching its dark subject matter, being just pop music with a "darker" coat of paint that's just as fake as a Twenty One Pilots when it comes to dealing with similar subject matter.

>>75108276
Well, how would you approach making goth-y music?
What are some genres that "do it right"?

>>75108288
I would just listen to baroque music and medieval era art music as that's where a lot of the tropes of the genre come from and are the tropes that it waters down. Everything else about goth is just boring pop shit. Or I would rather listen to something in the vein of industrial/EBM as that works with a far more interesting set of timbres. Or for the more depression focused stuff I would rather listen to something like Giles Corey or String Quartet No 8 as they offers a far more realistic portrayal of it than the romanticized approach of goth music. People like to claim that the goth pop aesthetic only started getting cringe in the 90s, but it was always "fashion over music" like that.

>>75101638
>Red Lorry Yellow Lorry is a great band. Talk About the Weather is fantastic.
My nigga, probably the best goth album I never see anyone talk about.

>>75108471
This

>>75108471
>>75108538
Godlike instrumentals but i don't really dig the singer

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-66xVOk_eY

What's this?
I found it years ago and forgot about it, maybe you guys can help give me context.

is duran duran goth

I never hear anyone mention this and its super good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoWkQMUEd6Y

Also punk is lots of fun - no bully pls!

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>>75101257

>>75108860
No, more like New Romantic.

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>>75101361
Punk is numale with the obvious exception of RAC. Post Punk really depends on the band. Goth cannot be nu-male.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfMQMxN4NO0

>>75108860
it's new wave

>>75108958
Anon, left-wing does not equate nu-male, and being right-wing doesn't prevent you from being a nu-male.

And not all punk falls in the left-wing/right-wing dichotomy.

>>75109182
>Anon, left-wing does not equate nu-male
I didn't say it did, but if I was going to pick one genre that would kill any nu-male it would be an openly white nationalist genre.

>>75109209
>one genre that would kill any nu-male it would be an openly white nationalist genre
lmao, you can't be more wrong
this is radically left and it slaughters numales

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf__QcoLq1g

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>>75109222
Could go back and forth forever about music that kills numales. At least we can both agree that we dislike the numale virus.

>>75107882
Hell no.
The main protagonist is shown as a crying baby who then destroys his friendships and gets told to fuck off by his friend when he is begging for help, just listen to Homecoming how pathetic he is.

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Does The Willard count?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXW4SipfKGo

>>75108958
>>75109182
>>75109209
>>75109222
>>75109258
I miss when people would just say "i don't like this person" instead of using meme labels for everything and everyone they dislike.
It's /mu/'s equivalent of "autism" and "reddit" at this point.

Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMltYn9LZN8

>>75107095
Fuck off retard

gay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKz2Kfql5ZU

>>75110400
Gatekeeping faggot.

>>75109540
The whole use of numale is just fucking annoying

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>>75110452
(you)

>>75110494
I'll gladly be a retard if it means calling you out on petty faggotry.

>>75110560
Ok retard

>>75110560
>>75110590
something about this doesn't strike me as particularly goth or even punk

>>75110487
t. numale

>>75110647
Your point being?

>>75110590
Gatekeeper.

>>75110818
Your point being? Millennial retard

>>75110831
Millennial's not even an insult. This isn't '88 where the fledgeling movement was all about it's exclusiveness anymore and trying to no true scotsman your way out with insults doesn't change that.

Goth I can live with, but black metal is obviously the superior choice. I don't think I need to say this even.

>>75107842
Green day is not punk

>>75112713
it's pap ponk