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previous thread >>75092114

Rock'n'Roll edition

/Production/ Resources:

>Mixing and Mastering:
ESSENTIAL Mixing Masterclass with Bob Power: https://youtu.be/cHxMsawJsTc [Embed] [Embed]
Mixing Engineers Handbook: https://mega.nz/#!YUkgCJpR!bTX1gzqhD7fozTipk4XsRNiWQmHQXBx0T4pHMRvaURw
The Secret of the Mastering Engineer, Bob Katz: https://mega.nz/#!ZAE2EBCb!r0Hf0gho8pL7BlBJ6-6rJznB9SEhCG31NzNJUJX34tU
Audio Engineering and Acoustics ebook bundle: https://mega.nz/#!wEVAVbgB!hwd7vmzaZ9C6wAnVbqIQt37pNUpfpn0t2ecSjZGRNe4
(Bobby Owsinski - The Mixing Engineer's handbook 4th edition, The Recording Engineer's handbook 4th edition, The Mastering Engineer's handbook 4th edition. Timothy Dittmar - Audio Engineering 101, William Moylan - The Art of Recording, F. Alton Everest - Master Handbook of Acoustics, Rod Gervais - Home Recording Studio: Built It Like The Pros, 2nd Edition, Philip Newell - Recording Studio Design

>Theory and Composition:
Music theory for musicians and normal people:
http://tobyrush.com/theorypages/index.html
tl:dr Music Theory:
https://gumroad.com/l/tldrmusic

>Synthesizers and synthesis:
http://www48.zippyshare.com/v/20999348/file.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMF8F9z7Zr8 [Embed] [Embed]
http://beausievers.com/synth/synthbasics/
http://www.analogindustries.com/b1764/

Free VSTs:
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/free-vst-plugins/
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/12/29/free-vst-plugins-2014/
Other VSTs:
http://pastebin.com/cCA5in17
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Melodyne vs ReaTune
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How do I perfect my drums?
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>>75096924
melodyne of course
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>>75097282
why
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>>75097256
tune them properly, mic according to your room, use your ears, don't overcompress
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Is this bass performance worth editing?

https://clyp.it/jivc4u4k
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>>75097304
no I mean for hip hop. I should've been more specific
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>>75097295
full polyphony, multitrack editing unifying multiple instances into one overview making shit easy
also you can even operate it if you're completely tone deaf and get a basically artifact-free result because the algorithm is fucking magic and nothing even comes close
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>>75097387
why bother, i get natural results with reaper, just by drawing the pitches on the timeline
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>>75097408
that's cool, you wanted to know if melodyne is better though. which it is
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>>75097420
i still think its not pratically better, can you explain it again sonically and interfaceally
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Seems like this has even more highs than modern shimmery stuff, is it that bad?

https://clyp.it/rgznodfj
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>>75097496
I'm okay with you thinking so. you can check the features yourself
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>>75097562
ah ok fine bye
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>>75097553
yes, it's practically unlistenable. also I can hear your pitch correction without heaving the headphones on
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>>75097601
Fuck, will back off the highs a bit then
Theres no pitch correction on it though
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>>75097630
the 'la's in the beginning sound fake as fuck, what ever you did to it
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>>75097660
maybe his reatune algorithm isnt so good a-ha
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>>75097338
no
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>>75097387
what do you mean by full polyphony? correcting stereo stuff? or chords?
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>>75097713
yes it is, dont talk shit
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>>75097722
chords, it splits up into the single voices of your chord, even across instruments that are being recorded simultaneously or just spilling over
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>>75097771
very cool ill be less resistant and check it out
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>>75097751
you would have to edit every single note. just play it again and count.
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>>75097338
I wouldn't do it
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>>75097833
>>75097846
i dont mind editing it to the grid. im more concerned if it has cool licks on it
that recording is from early this year and i lost that drive for bass stuff
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>>75097891
>im more concerned if it has cool licks on it
not really.
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>>75097956
thanks for your opinion man
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>>75097988
welcome
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>>75098005
ha
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>>75097660
yeah i did pitch correct it.
is this one better/more expressive?
https://clyp.it/w4mzpazp
if so, i'll re-record the first verse for that full-band mix, in this style
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>>75098639
I like how there must be 1000 mixes of that mediocre cover by now. It's just not good. Delete and go on.
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>>75098807
lol i think its fine, wont delete it.
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>>75098846
you are quite the crazy
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>>75098906
for thinking that cover is decent?
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>>75096911
Im new to this, im using ableton and logic pro X, are the instruments included in Logic good enough or nah?
If nah Can you rec me some good synth and percussion libraries, mainly for experimental hip hop.
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>>75098949
The instruments in logic look shit, but are actually really good. Doesn't logic now have alchemy in their arsenal? That's probably the best bundled synth to get free with a DAW and worth the price of logic on its own
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beware: below is a link to a fine production

https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/wild-world/s-dDwm3
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>>75099093
there is literally a soundcloud thread up right now for this shit nigger

go the fuck away
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so, Superior Drummer 3 is out
is it the mightiest drums vst today
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>>75099093
haha triggered
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>>75099117
i'm producing fine with EZDrummer 2, will stick with it, thanks.
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Really rough, but here's two clips from today. Any constructive criticism is welcomed, they're pretty raw at the ends sorry.

https://clyp.it/dhdqwq22
https://clyp.it/mskv0fwf
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how can I separate tracks from an already mixed song?
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this looks pretty cool and it is free havent gotten to try it out yet though https://vcvrack.com/
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48khz vs 96khz recording?
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>>75101682
44.1khz i enoug
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>>75101571

why that busy interface with cables instead of just stacking one in front of the other
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>>75101682

96kHz sample rate is great if you have mics capable of capturing 48kHz audio, and amp/speaker setups capable of reproducing it without intermodulation distortion.

48kHz sample rate is plenty unless you're making music for dolphins.
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Recommend me similars to the Virtual Mix Rack and maybe other Slate Digital products
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Reaper > abysm > Cubase

fuck cubase trash
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>>75101909
delet this
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>>75101954
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>>75101909
>he doesn't use FL Studio
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>>75102028
you mean that toy for kids to make beats? ah i used it once, whats your point?
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>>75102091
>he doesn't make beats
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>>75101571
played with this a bit and thought it sounded ok. pretty sure the "audible" expansion is required, I couldn't figure out how to stack cables, it looks like you need the mult.
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Is there a better Analog stuff plugin than the virtual mix rack
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how the fuck do I learn to program breakcore drums?
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>>75103236
wtf is breakcore
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>>75096911
https://clyp.it/si2x5ufn#

hey, lateposting again
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>>75096911
Two songs I've been working on for an ambient EP I started. Plan to have a lot more. Any thoughts or critiques to these songs?

https://clyp.it/hvt2ohrq

https://clyp.it/3slrusv4
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Are the highs fine now? Not too shimmery, not muddy?
https://clyp.it/2zt0q3hy
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>>75101144
ya can't
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I just bought my first modules for my never-ending journey of eurorack. What have I done?
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>>75106205
Be strong anon I've not bought a module for over 3 months now
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>>75106205
I recommend you switch to a diet of ramen and baked beans to cut down on living expenses.
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>>75096911
Bomb 20 inspired song I started. Thoughts or critiques?

https://clyp.it/ilrbpmlr
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>>75101808
Did someone say dolphin
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>>75104991
Can't listen 'cause sibilance
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>>75106738
I can't EQ it out of my MS20 without sacrificing the highs of the synth. Unless you guys know how to get the hiss out, though, I kind of like it and it doesn't bother me.
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>>75106802
get a de esser you ding dong, fab filter or nova preset. SACRIFICE YOUR HIGHS, highs are terrible 3kh to I don't know 8 or 10khz or beyond, no one wants to much of that
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I'm genuinely surprised these threads are still a thing
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>>75106847
Oh yeah, forgot about that. Thanks my boy, will try and use that. Anyone know why the MS20 creates a hissing sound?
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>>75106920
it can sense you're a fag and is lisping to relate
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>>75106424
Is this your setup?
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>>75107887
Yes, this is where I do music.
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>>75106877
well samuel is trying his best to take them over completely but we're not dead yet
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this is a compilation of tunes I've made recently. what do you think - any major issues?

https://clyp.it/sx5ddcdi
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>>75106920
Somewhat inherent to the design of the amp I think.
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bump
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hows the highs and the lows, friendos?
https://clyp.it/25ribanu

reference
https://clyp.it/5igzhsqn
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>>75104991
>https://clyp.it/hvt2ohrq
imo bassline gets noticeably repetitive half way through. adding another synth part to layer in might help shift the focus away from it... or what if you changed root notes once it gets to the part when everything else drops out?

>https://clyp.it/3slrusv4
this sounds more complete than the previous. last half of the song is great, the pitch bend creates a cool detuned effect with the reverb. If anything to comment on, a couple of the pitch bends in the first half sound like they stay in the 'bad' range too long, but could be from the synth being so dry

good stuff here anon.
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>>75102225
The UAD plugins are a bit better, but you need a UAD interface to use them or a separate unit.

Though nothing beats Slate Virtual Tape machine aside from real 2inch tape
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any tips on making this sound more industrial? should i kill the high pitch bleeps in the chorus?

https://clyp.it/wqjyxif4
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>>75112136
>Though nothing beats Slate Virtual Tape machine aside from real 2inch tape

How does the slate tape plugin compare to the Kramer or J37 by waves?
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>>75109198
literally who
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can someone please let me know how this is sounding through his speakers

https://clyp.it/2wqesy1s

heres reference
https://clyp.it/5igzhsqn
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>>75113345
I think the distortion/tape sim or whatever you used sounds like ass and makes it sound both harsh and muddy at the same time
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>>75113600
blame slate digital not me

the analog plugins on the master are really low and well below the distorting level, though, i dont know if thats the actual reaso for it to sound harsh and muddy
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>>75113663
might come from the mix already, no idea if it's a mastering issue or not, I can just state what I'm hearing
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>>75113345
>>75113663
>he posted it again
>blame slate digital not me
>blames plugins unironically

make some decisions for yourself wtf do you not have monitors or something
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>>75113807
yeah i understand
yeah i did make use of saturation on stuff. these plugins really make stuff punchy and loud. but i use them on parallell so it shouldnt be sounding saturated so badly
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>>75113855
take everything down to 20% of what you're doing and go from there, make it sound balanced and clean first and then see if it might benefit from a slight touch of saturation
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>>75112281
takes way too long to build up honestly

i'd say work on the drum sounds more.... idk what your standard is for "industrial" but this sounds pretty soft
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>>75113876
i can't mix without these analog plugins, i need them to get stuff to sound right
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>>75113921
>it's not sounding right
>i need them to sound right
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>>75113921
yes you can
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>>75113939
some anon said once that my drums were better when i reuploaded it and what i did was just add some saturation. the eq was basic
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ReaTune vs Waves Tune
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>>75114090
waves tune is completely useless, did you even try it
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>>75114090
fl studio master tune
supereasy and superpractical
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>>75114196
no, didnt. just reading a waves article
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lost my usb that i use for my school production projects...didnt have backups :-)
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>>75114263
a great chance to start fresh
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>>75114290
i was in the middle of a project and now i have to go chop up all my samples and vocals again. but it wont be too bad
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Anyone have any tips for getting a good mix on shitty speakers? Like some general pointers. Mostly make hip hop beats with samples.
I plan to buy some good headphones in the future.
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>>75114002
dude seriously stop relying on these people, you don't need anybody to hold your hand for 100 different versions of your master, use your ears

>>75114349
>reference tracks
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>>75114500
this.
post the result once, be done with it, move on to the next project and do a better job with that from start to finish
that's the only chance to learn, not by doing barely different versions of the same crap over and over
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crits on my first beattape?
https://soundcloud.com/misterbuddha/sets/its-you
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>>75109306
any feedback on this guys?
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anyone got a cassette recorder
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>>75114787
i dont do barely different versions i finish and ask what sounds fucked up through others' speakers so i can release something that sounds good.. yeah maybe thats annoying. but just posting a mix once is too extreme. i completely stepped one mix up after posting on /prod/ and if i had stuck with the first version that was pretty shit
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fuck authenticity
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heres the latest version, after some people's feedback

is it muddy or shrill or thin?

https://clyp.it/orgobukm
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>>75115354
you're spending so much time and energy polishing a turd, man
just do something new to improve
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>>75115743
was this a waste?

https://clyp.it/rmakzrjp
https://clyp.it/ho5fpq5k
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>>75115354
this is at least the 10th version wtf lol

you ever hear the phrase "fail faster"?
just get this shit over with, it's not your one song that's going to get you anywhere. fuck it's not even your song. you're not improving with this song, just move on
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>>75115813
yes

please tell me you're the same guy posting this same fucking cover over and over, i don't want to believe there's more than one person on /prod/ who does this shit
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>>75115844
i dont want anything but nice stuff on my soundcloud
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>>75115859
no it wasnt the new one sounds much better and bigger and cleaner
yes there aint someone else spamming my clyps.
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>>75115885
none of it made your song any better

i don't mean to be a dick but you should focus more on writing better songs over mixing
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>>75115938
its a cover song, the point of it is not songwriting but the production/mixing, and it got better on the remake
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>>75115973
we know

he was talking about your other song, it didn't get better, it just sounds like a better mix of an okayish song
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>>75116032
that was the point., i didnt change the song. dis discussion has no sense
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WILL RETURN ALL FEEDBACK

Hey guys, I seriously need some feedback. This is my first time composing something in 3/4 and i need to know what you guys think. it is far from finished but i have a few questions:
1. what do you think about the overall composition/how it sounds/makes you feel etc?
2. what do you think about the mixing, is it headed in the right direction?
3. does the percussion sound odd/awkward? (it was a bit of a challenge to make percussion in 3/4 sound somewhat natural to me)
4. should i use a different sample for the hi hat? (if you have a sample for me you think would sound great i would love you for it)
5. what do you think about the end bit? (I intend on making it longer)
Thanks much!

https://clyp.it/ouzosxdp#
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>>75116433
you're posting in a thread full of new producers who have no idea what they're talking about, you're not going to get anything out of this unless you want a bunch of compliments
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I read somebody shitting on battery 4 a few threads back - is it not favoured?

Seems pretty useful to me, am I missing something?
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>>75116782
i think people were just pissed about the lack of improvement between versions

good samples, too clunky compared to drum rack

>>75116761 this
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>>75116761
im pretty new too, only been doing it for about a year. im sure theres atleast a few people lurking in here that know their shit and are willing to lend a helping hand.

but if not, do you know a good place to get feedback on this sort of thing?
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>>75116879
>only been doing it for about a year

lmao for real? what do you do this shit 10 hours a day and only use presets? this doesn't sound like first year shit at all
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>>75116989
dadrock dude here, i started recording 1 year ago too
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>>75116989
not quite that much, but i do spend a lot of time with this stuff. and I was a musician before I started producing so I think that helped
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>>75117041
stfu
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>>75117065
haha gotcha. it took me a few years to get there because i didn't start putting the hours in daily until just recently. fuckin regrets man
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>>75117041
>validate me plz ;____;
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>>75117190
music doesnt work like that. you suck. get off 4chan and start practicing
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>>75117261
my music is good
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>>75115860

You said in another thread that you're using some piss-poor headphones to mix with and the solution to that isn't constantly asking /prod/ to correct the flaws that you can't hear - buy a pair of decent monitors, train your fucking ears and make nice stuff.
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>>75117606
>>75117261
why do you bully :(
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>>75117756
same reason you suck as a producer. its just who we are as people.
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>>75117606
just tell if this sound thin or some other bad eq quality, and i will stop trying to perfect wild world and posting it every day on /prod/
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forgot link, heres link

https://clyp.it/cmmcwoyw
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>>75117917

shoot yourself
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>>75117950
What's the point in making music if it's not something new and original. A cover can work if you change it to the point it doesn't resemble the original song, but what you're doing is just lazy and unoriginal. Nobody wants to listen to a cover of Cat Stevens.
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>>75117917

There's a shitload of uncontrolled sub-bass from your kick drum and yes - apart from that it does sound thin.

Fix your listening environment and you'll be able to hear the flaws yourself.
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>>75118056
because its a new arrangement with my voice
for the joy of recording and mixing and doing guitar solos
but i first did that song because someone asked me to

>>75118117
will it work if i just compress its subs and gate it
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i think the fucked up subs was from the room sound. hipassed the room channel @ 80hz and boosted lows on the master to fix the "thin" quality
and will release it this way.
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hardware synth back in studio after upgrades !!! Jam on you PRODs

https://clyp.it/nzes0hwi
https://clyp.it/sdpe2lno
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heres with these >>75118244 changes

https://clyp.it/s124wiub

this will be it
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is a 3-band EQ enough for basic mixing of my own songs (electronic music with occasional guitar and vocals)?

I'm not a professional or anything so I don't want to spend too much money on fancier Eq hardware that I won't even know how to use, but I also don't want to shoot myself in the foot so to speak

thoughts?
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>>75118549
>I'm not a professional or anything so I don't want to spend too much money on fancier Eq hardware that I won't even know how to use
you dont need hardware eqs or else to mix
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>>75118549
so your board has 3 band eqs per channel, or what do you mean? Fully parametric? Then you'll probably be fine
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>>75118549
honestly if youre just learning right now, 3 band should be fine. but there will come a day when your ears are better and you will need more than that for sure.
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>>75118587
i dont use computers

>>75118592
yes its parametric, but what do you mean by "fully"? is it possible for an EQ to be partially parametric?

sorry if this is a stupid question, like I said I'm new to mixing. I'm a musician who can't afford to pay a producer so I am learning to do it all myself using the links in the /prod/ OP
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are the electrics sounding fine or i better record them with a real amp
https://clyp.it/cszrhifl
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>>75118848
Yes, semi parametric is very common with small analog mixers
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I can now edit my old 90s synths and become OPN

https://clyp.it/re1blxtu
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>>75112112
I agree about it being repetitive. I think I'll add some effects like paper ruffling sounds with heavy delay or something to make it more interesting, maybe even cut the bass in the middle section to give it a breather.
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>>75118322
>>75119339
sounds like some glorious FM
what synth?

also
>https://clyp.it/nzes0hwi
did you mean to play Coma White by Marilyn Manson?
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>>75120117
No FM actually! You're hearing an SE CODE and a Roland JD-990 in my linked clyps

I've never listened to M. Manson actually.
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Can I get an ID on that synth the dude is playing and does anyone know what band this is?
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>>75120340

Looks a little like a Korg 770
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>>75120800

By that I mean the layout - the one in the original photo has maybe been painted?
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>>75120800
>>75120836
It does look like re-housed Korg 770. Layout is exactly the same.
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>>75120800
Looks like it, thanks man.
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https://clyp.it/akhq002c
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>>75121116
roflmfao
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Trying my hand at chunky underground house

https://clyp.it/jfmun11t
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tfw /prod/ is still dead
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>>75097338
>https://clyp.it/jivc4u4k
if you can warp it to be more quantized without fucking up the quality that would be good
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>>75122334
that just means all the soundcloud kiddies are asleep
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>>75123549
i like to think anons are producing instead of shitposting when /prod/ is dead
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>>75123616
i'm making a 50th mix of my dadrock cover but people keep getting mad at me for posting for some reason
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>>75123678
dude just fuck off already nobody cares
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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