Better than loveless

Loveless is one of 5 10/10 albums in existence. So no

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>>75077815
a much better comeback album than m b v

>>75077815

The first half is better than loveless. 2nd half is just ok.

>>75077836
This, AOTY potential

>>75077815
I wouldn't say its better, but its definitely a worthy successor. I can't wait for the next MBV album desu.
9/10.

>>75077836
I'd say on the same level. Everyone Knows and Don't Know Why were my favorite songs from that album.
AOTY material desu.

>>75077823
What are the other 4?

>>75077823
No over the years I've come to hate Loveless it's not something you can just put on and enjoy. I find myself listening to old MBV a lot more than I do loveless. Like I get why it's important but it's too loud and edgy for me most of the time.

I love the softer mellowness of MBV it sounds right

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>>75077823
out of curiosity, what are your other 4 10/10 albums?

>>75077911
probably Pet Sounds, OKC, TVU&N, ITCOCK or some other mucore-y shit

>>75077911
>>75077916
Loveless
Deathconsciousness
F#A#(Infinity)
Laughing Stock
Science Fiction

>>75077911
TVU+N
Disintegration
STGSTV
Chocolate and Cheese

>>75078082
No

>>75077966
>visits /mu/ once

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>>75077815

>>75078094
>Visits mu since 2010

>>75078137
>takes /mu/ as some kind of artistic compass

Cringe

>>75077966
Maybe
NO
no
Yes
No

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>>75077916
>but it's too loud and edgy for me most of the time.

>>75078199
I dont take anything from mu nignog, Ive formed these opinions over time

>>75078231
so which album did Science Fiction replace in your Top 5?

>>75077836
what a piece of shit album

>>75078392
Prisoners OST

>>75078214
>VACCUM SOUNDS

>>75077823
I used to genuinely enjoy Loveless. /mu/ has completely ruined it for me. It's a decent 7/10. Anybody who gives it more than an 8 is shilling.

>>75077815
objectively a pleb opinion. next

>>75080246
>/mu/ ruined an album for me
jesus christ this better be ironic

>>75080314
Let me rephrase that;
/mu/ constantly shilling for this album has made me painfully aware of it's glaring flaws.

>>75080394
jesus christ this better be ironic

>>75077815
I was just about to post this what the fuck

>>75080411
Loveless is a fine album. Decent even.
But let's not pretend that apart from Only Shallow, the rest of the album is unremarkable.

>>75080469
this. better. be. ironic.

>>75080502
Loveless is a 6/10 album with one 10/10 song. Stop getting your opinions from Fantano

>>75080469
>only shallow
>best song
neck yourself

>>75080560
It objectively is, numale

>>75080553
Stop baiting this poorly, also this better be ironic or you've fallen for the "contrarians are patrician" meme. Only Shallow is only the 7th best song on Loveless

>>75080627
Only Shallow is the only song on the album that doesn't fall under the vacuum meme

>>75077815
This album sucks because Kevin and Billinda ain't kids no more, they are middle aged people with real life problems and tasks

>>75080553
>stop getting your opinions from Fantano
>get's opinion from /mu/
Pleb

>>75077966
9/10
5/10
6/10
10/10
I don't listen to Brand New

>>75077815
It's good but the first three songs are vastly superior to the rest of the album. It's by far their worst.

>>75080553
>praised unanimously for decades
>some numale cuck reviewer's opinion is somewhat relevant for album's status

>>75080676
>being (You)
shiggy

>>75080683
LMAO oh please, /mu/ sucks so much dick for this album.
I haven't seen a single convincing refutation for any of my opinions. stop shilling

>>75080676
Yet it's one of the loudest songs on the record.

>>75080737
I never said you can't have an opinion. I was stating how ironic it was that you get your opinions from /mu/

>>75080717
>Participating in a musical circle jerk

>>75077966
i hope this post was a joke

>>75080737
>I haven't seen a single convincing refutation for any of my opinions
post actual opinions first then instead of retarded bait. you better be ironic

>>75080800
like I said, I'm not jerking off over this record, unlike a large portion of /mu/

>>75080832
Do you feel cool because of that?

>>75080832
>I'm not jerking off over this record, unlike a large portion of /mu/
Wow damn can I blow ur dirty lil patrician dick

>>75077836
hahhahahahahahahha holy SHIT hahahaha you stupid fucking faggot hahhaha LMAO

>>75080821
Honest, unfiltered opinion:
Loveless is a decent album that has a good amount of potential for re-listening. I understand that it is an important album.
HOWEVER:
It gets far more praise than it is due. A lot of the songs are just sort of coasting on the initial premise of "stack lots of guitar tracks". listening to more than a couple of songs at a time just gets boring. Aside from the colors and textures on display, the album is kind of dull.
6/10

Only Shallow is a serious banger though, so 7/10.

>>75080986
Only Shallow is the worst track you poptimist

>>75080986
name your favorite albums

>>75080844
Triggering /mu/tants gives me a sexual thrill. I do it for the (You)s

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>>75080986
>It gets far more praise than it is due
retarded claim, prove it
>stack lots of guitar tracks
most songs have less than 3 guitar tracks, the production style shields used to achieve this is one thing that was so innovative and why people can't duplicate it cuz they try by stacking lots of tracks but that's literally not how loveless was made you fucking iidiote
>dull
you just have shitty ears that can't hear the songs, it's a lot more than just textures and Idk what you mean with colors unless you're a synesthetic or tripping

When You Sleep is a more serious banger you filthy goddamn pleb

>>75080814
(you)

>>75081013
You got something against good riffs, gramps?

>>75081063
This

>>75080680
90% of the songs were originally written by kevin during the 90s
he just didnt record them and put them together until 2013

>>75081063
>Retarded claim
I'm getting attacked by about 6 different numales for expressing an opinion
>Innovative
Because nobody's going to blow $6000 on a pedal board if they haven't already made it in the industry
>Shitty ears
Seriously...? Are you referring to the handful of chords used? Are you referring to the rhythms being buried under a wall of noise? Colors refers to the harmonic content btw
>filthy goddamn pleb
This website is for users over the age of 18

>>75080680
Would you please speak English?

>>75081198
It's not allowed to write "ain't"?

>>75081197
also I don't even dislike this album. I have lukewarm feelings about it. I'd just rather listen to other things most of the time

>>75081243
Well allowed is a tricky subject as there is no defining body of English rules. Although it does lessen your argument

>>75081197
weakest response I've ever read, thanks for nothing. You can't back up opinions for shit
>Seriously...?
Yes
>over the age of 18
>using nu-male unironically
then leave?

>>75081260
But I'm black, it's how we speak bro

>>75081319
Well strive beyond you racial limitations anon, do not seek to conform to mediocrity

>>75081319
it's just a racist prescriptivist bro don't mind him

>>75077865
this man knows

>>75081350
I am not racist, I believe black people can be equals with whites and vice versa. There are whites who need to improve and blacks who need to.

>>75081417
Well your brand of linguistic prescriptivism is racist and used by racists to mock AAVE, so maybe you should do some critical thinking about why you're so strict about how other people choose to talk

>>75081311
Well golly gee, I was really hoping you'd be my best friend after all this was over, but I guess that ain't gonna happen now that I've expressed why I have a neutral opinion on Loveless!
Do you understand now why I originally said that /mu/ ruined this album for me? is it not painfully obvious now?
I didn't even say I disliked it. I gave it a fucking 7/10. But as we all know, anything less than an 8/10 is just a roundabout way of saying 1/10, right?

>>75081453
Hmm, how I choose to speak is racist? Well im sorry to have offended sir but perhaps your notions on the subject aee disjointed

>>75077815

Nah, though it is pretty good. It's better than Isn't Anything and Only Tomorrow is one of the best things they ever recorded.

>>75081456
>Well golly gee
this better be ironic

>I gave it a fuckign 7/10!!!!
your score opinion literally means dogshit to me I was just refuting your other stupid "opinions" like "too many guitar tracks Dx"
and again, letting an anime imageboard ruin your opinion of an album? better be ironic

>>75081511
>better than Isn't anything
no
>>75077815
OP the first half is pretty solid. The second half is good but not as "great" as loveless. Also nothing particularly revolutionary in terms of sound.

>>75081480
No, how you choose to make other people feel bad for speaking a certain way is racist

Only Tomorrow > Who Sees You > If I Am > Wonder 2 > She Found Now > In Another Way > New You > Is This And Yes > Nothing Is

To Here Knows When > Come In Alone > Only Shallow > Loomer > When You Sleep > Soon > Blown A Wish > I Only Said > What You Want > Touched > Sometimes

>>75081546
Im of african heritage myself however, how is wishing the rest of my race excellence racism?

>>75081641
that's called race-traitoring, and prescriptivism isn't excellence

>>75081521
Nah actually I was joshing. MBV are a bunch of hacks. If you told them to play unplugged, they probably couldn't do it. They just haul around a metric fuckton of gear to make up for a lack of talent

>>75081714
>hacks
Take your advice and leave if not over 18, you're not helping yourself nor the board so why play this charade

>>75081538
>no

Yes. It's not as cutting edge sound-wise but the performances are way less amateurish. Lose My Breath is the only song on it that I think has much of anything over its successors. I wish they'd make another dark acoustic song like that, it's fantastic.

>>75081760
You're really latching to the over 18 comment, did it touch a nerve?

>>75081076
The riff is the nosiest part of the song you goof

>>75081771
>Yes
Anon as much I absolutely adore this band and love it to death, I'll disagree

>It's not as cutting edge sound-wise
I guess that's why i put loveless above mbv. M b v shows that they've grown as a band artistically into something more mature albeit with less edge.

Besides, I feel that m b v is more top heavy whereas loveless is consistently great throughout.

>I wish they'd make another dark acoustic song like that, it's fantastic.
Me too senpai. Even though I disagree with the ranking, even I'd love more stuff like m b v

>>75081884
You say that as if it's a bad thing

>>75081930
I mean if the problem is the rest of the album falls under the vacuum cleaner meme, it's weird that your favorite thing about the album is one of the loudest, most memeable riffs on the record.

>>75081995

When You Sleep and Sometimes are the songs to choose if you hate vacuum cleaners.

>>75081995
You get that the vacuum cleaner meme refers to the long, droning chords rather than a track being noisy, right?

>>75081898

m b v is a bit more top heavy though it's also more ambitious and divides into sections. The first third is them honoring their heritage - everyone likes Loveless, this is what you came for. The middle third removes the fuzz from the equation and focuses on the band's more melodic tendencies. The final third does the inverse and goes almost straight noise rock. I feel like it's an exploration and deconstruction of the Loveless sound as a whole and it makes a lot of sense to me as a follow-up, not so much as the legend that people make MBV out to be as much as the restless act they always were.

>>75077966
to be 17 again

>>75082212
17 and a half much different anon?

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Is there any oldfag here who remembers what this board was like when they released this album back in 2013? I'm curious how anons reacted to a successor to an album that has unequivocally and uncontestedly stayed on it's defining music chart consistently.

>>75082256
It actually wasnt well liked, but the hype was real

>>75082256

Generally pretty positive, though opinions seemed to have thinned out a bit more over the years. A lot of people were happy just to see a 3rd album obviously but seeing as it wasn't a blatant retread of past glories some people were definitely a little cool on it.

Who sees you is their best track ever

although the best thing they ever did was the coda at the end of honey power

>>75081538
Yea but it's what their sound should have been, warm soft and melodic while still having walls of noise

>>75081805
mentioning twice isn't exactly latching on, I'm just not a fan of hypocrites and it doesn't seem possible that you're out of your teens

>>75082124
no it doesn't

>>75082615
Someone else gets it.
I don't even know what to call it - the tone, the pitch bending - it's just unreal. Gives me goosebumps.

>>75077936
a few years ago when I made this I made a version with better shading on his shoes.
notice how the inside of his left shoe is in shadow, but appears to be brightly lit.
it breaks my heart that people chose to share the incomplete version.

>>75080579
>numale
know how I know your opinion is completely worthless?
anyway the best song is actually To Here Knows When
true MBV fans know this.

>>75082256
people were praising it as AOTY and were really happy with it. threads constantly. no insane meme'ing over it

>>75077815
Is there a bigger pleb filter than Nothing Is?

>>75083288
is it bad if I unironically agree with most/all that image text

also ik that feel, when THE DEAK meme was achieving liftoff I made a deak collage and it got put on the official The Deak twitter background but it was the inferior rough draft collage with less depth and less deak

>>75082256
>what this board was like when they released this album back in 2013?
The hype for it was unreal, there were several fake leaks a day in the run up to the release. Was trying to remember the name of the artist that one of the more successful fakes but I can't.
When it was released MBV's website broke from all the people trying to buy it.
People really liked the album, but most people rated it lower than Loveless. Most people thought it was really good though, a lot of people's AOTY.

>>75083489
>is it bad if I unironically agree with most/all that image text
well I don't know if it's bad, but I agree with most of it too. I'm sort of the opinion that MBV are the only worthwhile shoegaze band myself, and that Loveless is a masterpiece that's certainly in the top 5 or 10 rock albums ever made.
and yeah people are too quick to meme before the meme is done. it's a conundrum.

>>75077815
no!

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>>75077823
there are actually only 3 10/10 albums in existence

>>75083550
tfw music taste matured too late. tfw didn't get to witness mbv's return in time. tfw most of the stuff i adore and like happened way before my time.

i know people get ruthlessly mocked for saying they're in "le wronggeneration" but I genuinely wish I was alive around the time most of my favorite bands made their best stuff. to seel velvet underground, joy division or mbv at their peak.

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>>75080737

>I haven't seen a single convincing refutation for any of my opinions