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Kvlt clothing edition

>>74959893
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Terrible picture.
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fuck extremecucks. fuck corelards. trad/glam/power will rule the world
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tourist poptimist shits out
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>>74974471
I see glamfags have taken to including power and trad in their autism to null the argument that glam isn't metal
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>tfw ringing ears after metal concert
pls be temporary
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>>74974538
glam is the logical conclusion to metal, its the purest form of metal
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>>74974538
>a parasite that latches onto the legitimacy of other respected movements to claim cred by fourth-degree association
i wonder (who) does this
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Why do other bands even try when metal peaked with Manowar?
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Literal masterpiece to be honest
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First wave = Best wave
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>>74975394

this is my shit right here

i feel like sodoms influence on black metal is somewhat underrated. listening to mayhems early stuff there is as much sodom influence as anything else
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>>74974483
CHASSE
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is riffless metal still considered metal? I mean there's still rhythm guitar in the mix, but no real riffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCLsqg05boo
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This band has not made grindcore since the 80s, they make deathgrind
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>>74974483
LE
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>>74975632
they also haven't been good since the 80s
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>>74974483
DRAGON
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Why do you do it....
Stop it now!
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>>74975682
Neither has your mum
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what a shitty OP.

Okay /metal/ post the last metal clothing your bought
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>>74975439
That's because Dead and Euronymous were huge Sodom fans.
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>>74976237
Saw them live 2 months ago with Vanum opening for them.
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>>74976237
I bought 3 shirts at once. Bathory, Godflesh, Pantera
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>>74974563
>>74974471
>>74974796
(you)
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>>74976237
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>>74974451
r/metal: The Shirt
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>>74975798
whole album is awesome
>>74975394
i don't understand what kept happening to metal that made riffs become modernized and shittier as time went on. was there some evil magic that helped write riffs in the 80s?
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>>74975632
Apex had some decent tracks
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Any of you faggots got a battle jacket/vest? Post em
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>>74976433
We may have gone too far with the glam meme but what's wrong with Versailles
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>>74976810
It's more at home at j-rock/j-music threads. It's basically j-pop with cherrypicked elements from power metal/melodic metalcore/etc. It might be metal in some ways, but it simply doesn't belong to this thread. Galneryus or X-Japan are more metal than this metallic visual kei.
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>>74976908
Versailles riffs harder than your favorite band
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>don't like Filosofem and don't consider it good in the slightest
>listen to War
>whoa Burzum had riffs and sounded good
what went wrong?
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what even IS metal
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>>74976954
Everything
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>>74976924
did you mean to write
>than your favorite anime opening
anyway, I'm quite assured that 90% of those who listen to Versailles will listen to weeb music rather than actual power/whatever. Versailles are glam, they are pop music with metal flavor
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>>74976964
A heavy, typically dark-sounding type of music
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>>74976972
let's find out
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>>74976964
nigger music
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what is pictured on this cover?
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were they meming with this cover art?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue04eNs12ck
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you can never win
PAY FOR ALL YOUR SINS
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>>74977042
I think all their covers are pretty abstract
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>>74976237
the last shirts I bought were Mayhem's DMDS and Bathory's s/t one 3 weeks ago.
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>>74977346
yeah
well at least this one has an obvious wolf and a bull (cow?)
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>>74977484
are you man enough to call yourself batlord?
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>>74977021
nice one

>>74977511
are you?
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>>74974471
>corelards
you mean coretards?
core kids are generally /fit/ AF
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>>74974586
As soon as the glam fag shuts up, our resident little black-metal-only troll moves right onto trying to pretend doom isn't real metal.
We've gone through this cycle a few times now.
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>>74977700
trip dubs confirm
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>>74977683
skinny =/= /fit/
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I like Orchid, Electric Wizard, Stoner Jesus which other bands should I check out
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>>74977764
Bongripper, Desire, Doom VS, Cough, Warning, Sleep and Saint Vitus.
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>>74977764

most def Black Sabbath
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>>74977531
>are you?
i don't pretend to be batlord
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>>74977808
that makes two of us
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>>74977779
Thanks I'll take a look at those

>>74977783
Ya forgot to mention that I love Sabbath haha
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>>74976908
>Galneryus
Versailles is literally just a more technical Galneryus.
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>>74977929
won't argue, i don't listen to neither
weeb metal doesn't belong to /meal/, nothing of value is lost anyway
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savage
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is this cvlt now
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Is there anything even comparable to this in terms of sheer brutality?
>inb4 some brutal $l@m
It still needs to be actual music
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>>74977843
basically there are several directions you can take from here:
1) stoner metal/rock—if you want something fancy and drone-like
2) traditinal doom—if you want more gloom, heaviness and riffs
3) older hard rock and heavy psych—if you like bluesy riffs
There are charts for all of this on /mu/ wiki.
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>>74977764
I'd recommend trying out, in no particular order: Orange Goblin, Pallbearer, (early) High on Fire, Reverend Bizarre, Conan, and Crypt Sermon - Out of the Garden Wall

You may also dig Elder - Lore, Earth - A Bureaucratic Desire for Extra-Capsular Extraction, and Cobalt, if you can stand some more Black metal leanings.
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>>74978667
Slam is cool, shut the fuck up nerd
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>>74978776
CONAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-pzI8-NaiI
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>>74978667
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WHEN HEAVEN COMES DOWN
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>>74978637

no, but the whole point is it doesn't try to be.

It's bm with a twist.
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>>74979131
>bm with a twist
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Did anyone else really dig this when it was released, i keep finding myself going back to it
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>>74976954
That's a bathory cover
Burzum is still shit.
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Post misleading album covers.
http://dir666.bandcamp.com/album/illumination
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Best Bathory album
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>>74977034
get got
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>>74979344
Oops lol, posted the wrong image
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>>74979395
this i agree with
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>>74979344
who cares, they're all shit
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>>74979344
>>74979395
that's not octagon xdddddd
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>>74979236
lol thanks for informing me
i've been postponing listening to bathory but not anymore
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>>74979236
>>74979524

it's not a cover - it's an original Burzum song in the style of Bathory
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>>74979655
Well yeah I just listened to the Bathory S/T and it's a different song
Bathory's War sounds like the usual satanic Motorhead
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did you know john lennon beat his wife
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>>74979809
literally nothing wrong with that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuUphbx-Tu0
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>>74979837
Bjorn Strid really let himself go
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Amon Amarth, more like Amon Kmart
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In Flames, more like In Memes
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>>74979837
oh boy was this hilarious

>>74980129
More like um don't
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Boris, more like Touris
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Gorguts, more like Gorgoroth but tech DM
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Leprous, more like Lelprous
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Sleep, more like i sleep
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Children of Bodom, more like Children on Bottom
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Scar Symmetry, more like Scat Symmetry
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it should be illegal to have such an ass
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Shining more like 'I want to kill myself'
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>>74980467
Shining more like Nine Inch Nails with Saxohpones
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Ulcerate, more like gr8 b8 m8 don't h8 8ist and @ the g8s
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Cynic demos > anything they've made after
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Carcass more like Fatass
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type o negative, more like hiv positive
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>>74980515
Yes that is accurate
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I fucking hate metal
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Iowa is a good album
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>>74980528
good one
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>>74980559
No it isn't, but I like it anyway
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Candlemass - solitude? More like candyass - solid dude
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>>74980610
I've seen this one here before, good one!
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well they did it

Dawn of Ashes finally finished transitioning from aggrotech to full-on symphonic black metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZWsJ8UZ9ZQ

whaddya think?
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>>74980559
PEOPLE
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>>74980724
EQUAL
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>>74976954
>likes a shitty semi parody song
>dislikes an influential masterpiece with unique droning sound and beautiful cold atmosphere
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is there a grind chart with essentials, or one for beginners?

failing that - does anyone have any decent recs?
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Judas Priest—Painkiller
More like Judas Plane—Banekiller
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>>74980764
Start and end with Anal Cunt
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>>74980764
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>>74976237
Black metal album of the year.
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>>74980757
>influential
doesn't equal good
>unique droning sound
that's a rather fancy name for repetition ad infinitum
>beautiful cold atmosphere
more like a practical joke
Burzum is Pollock of BM
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>>74980833
where to buy?
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>>74980857
I got it from this site https://www.altare.pt/clothing,
but it looks like they don't have it in stock anymore. Sorry anon.
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>>74978030
>i only listen to extreme metal
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>>74980764
Two newer ones.
Dead Issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gGCgwhDmvA
Misanthropic Noise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSly4tlOlwg
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>>74974483
i need the names
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>>74980773
for you
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>>74980971
lurk - more
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What are some /metal/ approved RYM profiles?
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>*burns some churches*
>*murders someone in self defense*
>*achieves unmatched peak of black metal in form of one song ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-gBds6v6Ak )*
pshh nothing personnel cathocuck
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>>74981065
it sucks lol
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AAAAAAAAAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AYYYOOO
>disses christianity
SO HOL UP HOL UP
>burns a church
SO U BE SAYIN
>acts edgy
SO HOL UP U BE SAYIN
>sings about Dungeons and Dragons
AAAYYYOOO SO U BE SAYIN
>plays MYFAROG
U BE SAYIN
>stabs his friend 26 times
HOL UP HOL UP
>in self defense
AYYYOO U BE SAYIN
>goes to prison
SO U BE SAYIN
>makes Runescape music
HOL UP SO U BE SAYIN
>makes another dungeon synth album no one cares about
WE GON BE
>talks about tradiional family
FINNA WE GON BE
>stops playing guitar
AYYYOO HOL UP WE GON BE
>makes YouTube video in his car
SO WE GON BE
>shitposts in the comments
SO U SAYIN WE GON BE
>shows his toilet
SOM FINNA
>makes an 25 minute ambient track
SO WE GON BE
>listens to techno
SOM FINNA
>smiles on camera
AYYYOO SOM FINA
>insults Molyneux
HOL UP
>skims through a philosophy book
WE GON BE
>goes LARPing
SOM FINNA
>shows his swords
WE GON BE
>acts dumb
SOM FINNA
>only sees black and white in his infancy
SO U BE SAYIN
>listens to The Cure
DAT WE WUZ
>tells you to stop
VIKANGZ N SHIET?
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>>74980958
well fuck
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>>74981135
>>74981065
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>>74981065
>This is the ideal guitar riff. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
>5544----5522----
>5544----5522----
>3322----3300----
yeah it's totally not atmoshit nono this is
A R T
R
T
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>>74981135
good post
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>>74980791
Can you post that chart again please?
404 error'd
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>>74981249
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>>74981135
>>74981079
>>74981195
>triggered shitters without any taste flocking like a moth to the flame just to expose themselves as a tasteless pleb
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>>74981149
I think you can get it here too, https://shop.ironbonehead.de/en/clothes-/17355-black-cilice-por-winged-serpent-t-shirt.html
but the site is closed till the 25th.
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>>74981341
It's what happens when tourist crossposting TheDonald refugees overdose on meemees and find new boards. Other calling cards include: glam, sneed.
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>>74981284
Thank you. And wtf? no Unholy Grave? what kind of heresy is this.
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>>74981392
stop projecting
you are the only person who listens to glam around here
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where are my fascist bros at?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuFAMAYjgq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGgxulHA1PY
>>74974471
>>74974563
this
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>>74981341
>>74981392
>""taste""
>""theDonald""
>parrots the most droned BM album in existence which is basically Boris of BM, that got most fame because of the artist's life story and political views, and which otherwise would be called numale atmoshit poser tourist cancer
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>>74981439
>where are my fascist bros at?
at school
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>"this is trve metal thread /mu/ fuck off"
>20 minute loop of same 3 synth notes in fruity loops
>"MUH ART! MUH INFLUENCE! MUH SUPERIOR TASTE! LITERAL KINO"
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>>74981606
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>>74981606
that 25 minute long synth track is good, but Filosofem is overhyped on this board, a lot.
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AYOO HOL UP
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GLAM UPRISING NOW

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVHui8OP1Fg
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Brand spanking new black metal

https://bloodtouch.bandcamp.com/
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>>74981667
Yeah!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyQYnWGBGdE
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>>74981698
how can extremecuck "bands" even compete? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXgmH0_iFbE
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>>74981667
ahhh yeah come on and glam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AN_4rJ1J5c
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>>74981614
>heavy and power shaking hands with extremecucks
not so fast sweetie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No1zAkGE5HE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kUiPlHYytQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k62mutHpHY
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>>74981621
>25 minute long synth track
>good
Don't you contradict yourself

>>74981614
>t. everyone who disagress with me is glam
Filosofem is ITAOTS of BM, it is the most pretentious music you /mu/drones in disguise of /metal/ like so much.
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>>74981737
hey guys, can you get trips so that i can easily filter you. thanks
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>even Bruce did glam metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7apiYkLf0w
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>>74981717
By actually making good music
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>blackies and glam shitters fighting each other
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>>74981834
it's not much of a fight considering there's less than a handful of glam tourists that shitpost while the general is objectively, empirically black/death majority. visible anytime collages start getting posted
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>>74981834
really? All I can see is glamfags begging for (you)s like trve m/\les, while being mostly ignored
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>>74981868
folk vs melodeath battle when
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>>74981868
I'm surprised prog got so many votes
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>>74981868
>thrash that low
thrash > black > death > doom
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>>74981892
>folk is literally 4 guys in a hut
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>>74981757
>contradict
nope, the hypnotic vibe is probably the strongest with this track and I often listen to it on loop while reading.
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MANOWAR!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2b0qCPGAOo8
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>>74978777
Seconding this.
>>74974483
Most of these aren't as obscure as you think they are. You're going to have to try harder to keep your "tourists" out.
>remaster of Into the Abyss...
>not the demo
How very tourist of you.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IPBgUKGdYk

G L A M
L
A
M
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>band member embarks on solo projects
>sounds exactly like their original band
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let's write a thrash song together
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>>74981991
80s movies über alles brother
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2VqGJaQz4A
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>>74982034
OST was great and the movie is mostly solid, good cast.
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post great solos now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK2AJqYFD5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UxifGtOzSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VwbyBGbqPY
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>>74981984
the psued-elitist shitck is funny coming from a person that rates BTBAM and Deafheaven so highly and wants to seem an arbiter of taste and obscure gems now. tourism isn't an incapacity to obscurity, who the fuck is passing standard first wave and death/black mainstays as obscure?
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>>74981933
To each his own I guess. But that said, what part of it is BM, really? The residue dark vibe from the genre (which is, btw, nowhere near other BM)? Just get some dark ambient or other stuff in vibe of Brian Eno, Philip Glass, minimal techno and such.
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>>74981984
Fuck off
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G L A M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp5Ahx4wmgQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FQ4dHPYqvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXUEVAjKQto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-HiJFLpmLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9IaJC5YUqg
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>>74982106
tremolo picking and the vocals, but I'm not the type who'd call it one of the greatest black metal albums or albums in general, even though it's quite catchy, good and the hypnotic vibe really does it for me. /mu/fags drool over it because it's the type of black metal they can listen to without going "muh satan and potato quality", same goes for Ulver's Bergatt which is another album they turned into a meme around here, but fuck if I'm going to let those faggots ruin them for me.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpbaY52-lBk
why is savatage so perfect?
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>>74982094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAxywwP541Y
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>>74982106
If you follow the lineage it's not that far off from the the Norwegian ideal of black metal at all. Norwegian BM placed BM in terms of a cosmic, non-anthropomorphic vision i.e. eternal nature vs. ephemeral man. Earlier krautrock/kosmische musik operated on a similar mode of thought. Conrad Schnitzler connected the two scenes by having that feature on Deathcrush (meaning the Norwegian scene would've been on some level conscious of the German progressive electronic stuff), so it's not a stretch for Varg (and the other Norwegians with their ambient side projects) to tinker with ambient and place it in terms of their conception of black metal.

The ambient side projects of Ildjarn, Beherit, Darkthrone etc. didn't come ex nihilo.
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>>74982116
nice taste
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=715KbpEL9so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbSqD2ADdoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCbUZqN8JZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwOqlo63Kd0
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So I finally got to listening to Manowar to check them off the backlog. Frankly, some of it is actually pretty damn good as far as trad goes. The real problem is, it's very uneven. Outside of the singles, it's on the level of Running Wild filler or mediocre Kiss/Priest/Dio worship. Good production is a meme and doesn't hide mediocre songs.
Thank god I finally can forget about them and move on down the list
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which is better, early Death or not Death Death?
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>>74982244
Dead Death
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>>74982232
t. newmale
manowar is literally the pinnacle of metal
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>>74982228
We all know ambient is nu-male tier
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>>74982244
Death up to Human
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>>74982232
shut up
manowar is one of the best metal bands
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>>74981962
t. trve-male
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>>74982244
Symbolic > Human > ITP > TSoP > Spiritual Healing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Death Metal stuff
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>>74982232
What albums did you listen to? Their first four albums are literally the greatest metal albums of all time.
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will they come to the states?
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>>74980833
dude thats sick, would have been cooler if you got it at a show tho
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https://youtu.be/QpLbkxEL5bs
blackies btfo
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>>74981984
t. genuine tourist

fuck off
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>>74982345
why would I leave my room?
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>>74982228
The problem for me is not the presence of ambient, but the lack of metal. Cross metal with anything you want, as long as it's still metal and you do it good.
20 minute synth track may be good to some, but it's not metal at all. The exception might be the overall mood (whatever it means), yet metal isn't defined by mood alone. It doesn't merge metal and ambient (like 2nd wave BM did), it sacrifices most features of metal to make way for ambient.
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>>74982351
wtf i am a pizzathrasher now
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>>74982287
t. manocuck
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>>74982398
t. nu-male poser tourist
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>>74982231
you too anon :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-hlcaCC_1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7klp1a2T_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wwbyBBdzak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqH34jNQVGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WIWUOQq7YI
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>>74982398
t. nu-clear blast
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>>74982337
no
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>>74982386
No one is pretending a 20+ minute ambient track is metal. It's not metal. It's ambient. That doesn't mean the decision to use it isn't informed by the fundamental ideal of what the Norwegians were getting at. If you go in expecting riffs on literal ambient you'll be as disappointed as going to the movie theater to see a horror movie and getting an action movie instead.
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>>74982316
Hail to England started as shit 3rd grade NWOBHM and I almost turned it off. But the title track was damn good, after that p. good too.
Sign of the Hammer was okay but nothing super special, as I said good production is a meme
Kings of Metal is 1-2 good songs, the rest is filler much like Running Wild
I see no point in continuing, most things Manowar did other trad bands did better and more inspired
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post week
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TRVE METAL UBER ALLES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpIlrY5ycI0&index=1&list=PLtQ4O3CohX-BV0PaBCDMa2eFyoyj71b0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MNTnZ-zUQs&list=PLtQ4O3CohX-BV0PaBCDMa2eFyoyj71b0M&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oZ0Z3g90BE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5t-A84-h1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q7QiMOx4Po
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>The Plague Within was pretty well received here
>no one gives a fuck about their new album

What happened?
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>>74982483
This is still shit
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>>74982483
+EW, post-DMDS Mayhem,Grotesque
maybe check out Goatsnake
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AMBIENT NAZIS FUCK OFF
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>>74982483
>>
WE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE
DEFEEEEEEEEEEEENDEEEEERS OOOOOOF THE FAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIITH
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Retrospective 2016 AOTY
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>>74982606
That's not Rheia
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>>74982457
Yep. Except tell me why it's here on /metal/ then. Because it's Norwegian and related to BM scene?
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>>74982639
>female Deafheaven
Lel
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>>74982542
+DiJ, Beherit, Blasphemy, Arghoslent, Leviathan and Nocturnus

Have you've heard Mithras's Behind The Shadow Lie Madness and Anata's Under a Stone with No Inscription? You might dig those, Phlebotomized's Immense, Intense, Suspense and Timeghoul's demos, too.

>>74982509
it isn't, but Come To Me, My Fanatics is superior

>>74982561
+Voivod and MF
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>>74982509

it's really not.

like hundreds of other albums on this board it's a decent to good album that has been memed to death and become almost otherworldly in its notoriety.

see:

Burzum
Deafheaven
Vector
any of the various "nu-male" or "t.cuck" charts floating about
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>>74974483
THIS IS FOR ALL YOU SICK FUCKERS OUT THERE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4zRPo6pPBM
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>>74982655
Because Burzum is by and large black metal? Having to type that out seems redundant
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>>74982703
Deafheaven sucks
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>>74982703
This

Deafheaven still sucks though
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numales get out
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Wtf I hate varg now

http://www.metalsucks.net/2017/09/05/varg-vikernes-says-he-approves-of-race-mixing-in-his-latest-video
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>>74982771
FAKE news
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>>74981681
That's actually pretty cool. Melodic Black Metal with a touch of Maiden melodies. And a lot of fun. While I really can't stand the Bloodtouch chorus riff as it's been played to death, the rest is pretty cool.
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crazy
http://www.metalsucks.net/2017/09/05/manowar-vocalist-facing-charges-after-raping-antifa-activist
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Requesting Power Metal that sounds as energetic as this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqU_Ujkp3u0
>inb4 shit lyrics
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>>74983076
G a l n e r y u s
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>>74982728
>>74982729

non-ironically, name a flaw.
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>>74983076
I know Dragonforce gets a lot of hate but this album is actually pretty good.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKZd75PeshM

4:25
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>>74981681
Sounds cool, man.
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>>74982721
ok. well here we have metal without riffs, energy, power, aggression, songwriting, and barely any melody whatsoever. If this is the "metal" Burzum fans want, I feel truly sad for the state of BM and its listeners. It's basically the same 2000s bleepshit but with guitars and "muh 666 misandry" metal flavor. If they think it's "logical" to castrate metal, remove the teeth, the fun and the balls out of it, then thank god they have their containment genre. Just too bad it still bears the name of the genre they castrated.
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>>74982728
>>74982729
t. Buttmad meal babbys mad because they cant break barriers they put up by themselves. Sad!
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>>74983076
Would be great if only their songwriting wasn't so repetitive. Otherwise p. good
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After listening to metal a lot I just feel like all other music is inferior. Metal is like the peak of masculinity so everything else feels nu-male. Anyway yeah just some thoughts.
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>>74983493
t. buttmad hipster because his hivemind doesn't allow him to like metal
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>>74983417
I'm not even sure where to start. Maybe listen to more music lmao. Besides missing the points, the fact that the Norwegians drew from ambient doesn't negate that there's first-wave or non-scandinavian influenced bm still being released re: the """""""""state of BM""""""". have you even looked at the recent catalogs of nwn, hhr or ibp?
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Sabaton anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pbFf_9xxUk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDyyFrCHu-o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_N7PSkwUmA
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>>74983515
The songs on this album can be distinguished from each other moreso than the ones on other albums.
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>>74983649
t. power bottom
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Who /shorthair/ here?
Metal for this feel?
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>>74983698
>state of BM
Well the first thing you hear about Buttzum is "muh influence", that's what I meant by that
>missing the points
the argument was that some guy said the 20-minute synth long track was good because it was great for BG music. I replied that it wasn't much metal, and if he'd find better genres for this kind of listen. you said it wasn't far from Norwegian ideal of BM, then admitted indeed that the track in question wasn't metal.
I'm not sure where this discussion is heading anymore. I argued about that track being "paramount achievement" of BM. When in fact it's not even metal.
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>>74983417

you are literally complaining that one of the founders on the 2nd wave of bm didn't play bm.

lighten up ffs this album came out like 20 years ago. what the fuck are you sperging about. He played bm and dungeon synth. deal with it.
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>>74983884
Romans: short hair
modern military: short hair
modern conservative male style: short hair
Metal: "ayy don't be cucked by short hair jew! We wuz vikings n shiet! L'Oreal Paris \m/ x666xTimoteix666x "
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>>74983960
Every single metal band worth a fuck: long hair
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>>74983891
Because bm is more than just sonic tropes. If that weren't true it'd be so much easier for the people that actually listen to this genre to swallow calling Liturgy and Deafheaven bm. I don't see how it's controversial to bring up an ideal of BM in that respect if we start from the position that there is more to bm than just blast beats and tremolos. I just get this sense you have this predisposition of what metal ought to be and that a peripheral association of an ambient influence (that makes sense in context) triggers you, to be blunt.
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>>74980528
Actually a pretty good one. Might use that sometime.
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>>74983957
>what the fuck are you sperging about.
literally about the "influence" and the drones surrounding it. i said it a lot of times. Anyway i don't think i got my point through which isn't really surprising.
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>>74975394
you're retarded. atmospheric black metal is the zenith of the entire genre, where it achieves its highest potential.
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>>74983884
>tfw shaved my head because I thought I was severely balding
>it revealed that my hairline is still quite decent only my hair was complete shit by years of abuse and shitty accidents

Should I let my hair grow again or should I assume my new Slamchad identity?
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>>74983957
i think this sort of internet revisionism is when thinking in terms of memes goes too far
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>>74984082
nice post-ironic double-looped false flag
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>>74983960
kek
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my fav bm shirt
best aesthetic really
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>>74983076
Dark Moor and Twilight Force
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>everyone except the singer has long hair
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>>74984136
i don't understand what you mean
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>>74984150
>slav moonrunes
into trash
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>>74980528
Lmaoooo
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>>74984165
the more i look at Bruce in this picture, the more he looks weird
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>>74984083
I feel like shaved is an acceptable metal look, anything between that and long just looks awkward :/
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>>74984291
Who are the Bog brothers of metal?
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>>74984165
Somebody Bogdanify Bruces face here
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this is literally proto-power metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0Spl1cOf-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzdjMLKKdgk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4UjWtLyYBY
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>>74984314
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>>74984019
>Because bm is more than just sonic tropes.
>I just get this sense you have this predisposition of what metal ought to be
I already clarified that what annoys me is the absence of metal per se. Implying that Varg "shrugged off" the "dead forms of metal" to go to some "pure ideal" is literally the logic behind XXth century garbage art, hence Pollock reference.
The question is, did you really have to destroy the years of evolution and tradition of music to get one synth loop, not realizing you fell into the old Derrida trap? I say that is not only pseudo-intellectual, but suicidal to metal music as a whole. It is nothing but a celebrated destruction of metal by—who would have thought—not even some ebin modernist, but an ethnic nationalist.
What irks me is people who celebrate it, not realizing that is the self-brought end of metal
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Post beautiful, sad metal
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>>74984082
numale detected
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holy shit, this is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X_3yOUKSOc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4SeEHSKZL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57HicYcY4Ow
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>>74984002
Doesn't mean it has continue forever. All of that stuff came to be over 30 years ago really.
Looks are secondary to the essence of metal. But, I am deeply convinced that metal is better reflected in short hair.
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Bruce Dickinson brought Iron maiden to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL
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>>74984502
>Swallow the Cum
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>>74984193
you're shitting me, right?
litourgiya is a great album
>>
HEADBANGERS IN LEATHER
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>>74984456
To preface, I'm not discussing Burzum qua Varg's politics but Burzum qua black metal. Yours is an interesting position in terms of a sense of traditionalism considering it's contradistinct to how DMU interprets Burzum and the general Norwegian project of BM (going so far as to use terms like "ambient metal") because they relate it to the larger musical lineage of the aforementioned kosmische musik and the general cultural zeitgeist of the late 80s/early 90s. And DMU's stance on metal traditionalism should be self-evident.

So I just don't see an implication of "shrugging off" "dead forms" here, but an extension of what the Norwegians were getting at (when I reference the Norwegians as a whole it's because it wasn't just Varg that was approaching bm this way). And again, It also has not at all stopped non-Scandinavian or first-wave bm from continuing to be released. The fact that some cascadian band exists does not negate the existence of nwn, ibp, hhr etc. catalogs from existing. The charge of "suicide to metal music" has absolutely no substance.
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anyone have a guide to power metal?
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>>74984502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDpc-831GPs
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>>74980349
More like Children of Boredom
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>>74984916
My old favorite one didn't age well, it was "children of badum-tss"
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>>74984884
First song I heard this song I literally shed a tear.
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Best Galneryus album?
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>>74984502
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIYUhdQQgJU
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>>74984993
Resurrection
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>>74984993
Resurrection for the solo in Destiny alone
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>>74984800
>kosmische musik
It is pretty much built on the similar modernist premise though. No music expert but this is from what I listened to and read. Basically "abandon" or "deconstruct" Western music, all synonymous with "destroy".
>So I just don't see an implication of "shrugging off" "dead forms" here
As I see it, Varg didn't quite take metal to the new horizon. He simply threw out everything that didn't fit to make way for ambient. This is kinda like throwing out the engine out of the car to make it lighter for the horse to carry.
If he managed to take the riffs, melody, etc etc intact, THEN somehow make them hypnotic and ambient, then I'd applaud the man wholeheartedly. THEN he'd extending—not wrecking—BM.
>And again, It also has not at all stopped non-Scandinavian or first-wave bm from continuing to be released. The fact that some cascadian band exists does not negate the existence of nwn, ibp, hhr etc. catalogs from existing.
This is indeed very good. I'm only mad that Filosofem is seen by many as a touchstone, something that _irreversibly_ changed BM and became the only direction for "progress", and which became the definining trendsetter of the genre. This scares me quite a lot for reasons I've specified.
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What's the best modern Maiden album?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am-Y0cuz0mw
This song owns hard btw.
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viva españa
plvs vltra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB2GzaWqPI4
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>>74985234
Rock itself is built on modernist premises disconnected from Western classicism insofar that ambient or krautock are as well. I don't see how you can reconcile metal with high Western culture from this position.
>If he managed to take the riffs, melody, etc etc intact
This is the exact point of the metal tracks on Hvis and Filosofem though, this is the reason why he refers to those songs as "spells". Darkthrone does the same thing with the droning minimalism on Transylvanian Hunger. Ildjarn does the same thing with the punk-informed minimalism on Forest Poetry. Hence those recordings go a way in explaining the Norwegian conception of black metal and 2nd wave itself.

People will interpret it Filosofem or any record how they will in terms of legacy. I say just let the music do the talking instead of being caught up in interpretations of interpretations. And objectively it's not like there's any shortage of modern non-Norwegian black metal so.... being scared that an underground subculture will go under because some tourists have their own input is unfounded in mostly all respects.
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>>74985592
i hate inverted covers. here see the real photo they've been tricking you dude
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>>74985493
Powerslave is the best
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what are "tourists"
someone explain this meme
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>>74985695
i actually knew about it bruh
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What does he listen to?
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>>74985955
look in the mirror
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>>74986007
glam and yohio
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>>74985788
MODERN you headass.
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>>74986007
atmoshit
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>>74986061
POWERSLAVE
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>>74985650
>Rock itself is built on modernist premises disconnected from Western classicism
Wouldn't say this, not about rock and especially not about metal, which embraced classical and folk music more. Even in satanism and evil melodies, it's still Western developments. A lot of more melodic BM (and some DM, btw) embraced classic and folk music which I appreciate.
Varg otherwise makes it as abstract, ambient, primitive and hypnotic as possible, which has been the development of the late XIX and XXth century modernism.
…And then he goes and preaches about lost culture, traditions and 'the country we lost'. When his music is deliberately empty of all of that. Go figure.
>Darkthrone does the same thing with the droning minimalism on Transylvanian Hunger.
But it's far from the same. Darkthrone has riffs, melody etc. They are minimalist in the sense "there's nothing to take out to make it better". I think they did a similar thing but much better than Varg, i.e. they truly extended 1st wave while being very careful with the roots of it. You can feel a definite connection between them and NWOBHM that they don't cut but rather preserve.
This is key, they preserve the tradition of metal and Western music in general. Rather than primitivism or something along these lines, they have "good" minimalism which is not exactly at odds with Western culture (see country, folk etc).
>being scared that an underground subculture will go under because some tourists have their own input is unfounded in mostly all respects.
Again, I'm scared of the influence and reach his input has had, and the overall signal it sends music-wise. And the circlejerk surrounding this album and music influenced by it.
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>>74986099
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>>74983884
my hair grows like pic related when it's long and i look like a complete idiot.
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best album ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUzzx-Kb3WE
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>>74986166
That pitch up is disgusting.
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>>74986166
Back in the Village intro is the best melodeath ever written
not even memeing
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>>74986141
bro gro a 'fro
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>>74986224
Back in the Village is literally the worst song off the album.
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>>74986277
if this intro riff doesn't make you powercum i feel bad for you
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>>74986305
The intro riff is good yeah. The vocals are absolutely awful though. I have no idea how they thought it was acceptable.

TAAAAAAAAAAAABLES, START TO BLAH BLAH BLAH BLEH BLA BLA
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>>74986340
yeah I only like the intro
Maiden sometimes write the most amazing intro then have kinda disappointing song, see Moonchild intro for example.
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>>74986431
>he doesn't like moonchild
fuck you kid
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AND THE MUSIC PLAYS ON, AS THE BRIDE PASSES BY
CAUGHT BY THE SPELL AND
THE MARINE TELLS HIS TALE
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>>74983708
Fucking love Sabaton.

https://youtu.be/gMRHlqmn3ZU?t=91
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>>74986431
But Moonchild is one of the best songs of Seventh Son?
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>>74986102
idk the subtext I'm gathering is that you're making this out to be personal by interpreting Burzum as Varg's ideas rather than Burzum as the music itself. The earlier Burzum records are as much indebted to first-wave (specifically citing Bathory, Celtic Frost, Destruction) as the rest of the Norwegian scene so I don't see how you can exclude him from having riffs (even on Hvis and Filosofem) when Darkthrone cites the same sources. Much less melody which virtually all of 2nd wave hinges on, in a technical sense.

I still don't understand what you're scared of and if you think this exclusive subculture is in any danger you simply don't have a pulse on the scene.
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>>74986610
Earlier Burzum—yes. It is specifically about Hvis lyset tar oss and Filosofem and where they went, with very implicitly modernist direction.
I am scared of where this road potentially leads BM, namely post-rock/atmosludge territory with deliberate Minimalism (the music genre) influence. A territory trashing the tradition instead of developing it. It basically signals that it isn't about Western/Nordic culture anymore, but some abstract "dehumanized" vision. It is essentially anti-Western and is really a veiled desecration of Western culture. And also it's an open road for p4k-ready "post-metal", hipsters and other parasites.
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>>74986849
There's some irony in taking up DMU rhetoric while honestly not getting post-Hvis Burzum. Regardless of whatever spooks you're propping up with this anti-Western rhetoric, outsiders have already carved out their niche in metal irrespective of whether it can be placed on Varg or not. And literally fucking nothing is worth being "scared" over for it. Weakling doesn't mean NWN doesn't exist. Cascadian black metal doesn't mean IBP doesn't exist. Deafheaven doesn't mean HHR doesn't exist. Black metal is not at fucking existential threat, much less nsbm with how Darker than Black or Northern Heritage etc. is doing. Hipsters and tourists don't fucking matter in the scheme of subcultures especially not black metal.
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You guys are basically parodical at this point.
>>74982296
Fuck that. TSoP is literally their worst album.
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