What exactly makes good or bad Free Jazz?

Free Jazz was never good.

>>74957643
fpbp

Bad free jazz is people noodling with no purpose, rhythm, syncopation, etc

Good free jazz can range from just a way more loose form of constant soloing to a collection improvisation that slides back and forth from structure to chaos to structure

>>74957613
well first of all, and this rule applies to jazz generally, if it's performed by a white man it's bad
the inverse is true, i.e. the blacker you arethe better the music. thus john COALtrane > sun ra > eric dolphy

Good Free Jazz is the kind you like.

Bad Free Jazz is the kind you don't like.

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>>74957742

>>74957791
both leading men of free jazz have names that begin with "coal". prove me wrong, faggot

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This is bad free jazz, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Stay clear from this shit, only people who "enjoy" this are the actual definition of Poseurs.

ITT: Shitposting for free and anything goes

>>74957742
Sure, I'm going to take Jazz listening advice from a fuckwad like you. Listen to more Jazz please you pleb.

>>74957832
see? a white group with a nazi name. straight to the surplus bin

>>74957778
/thread

>>74957864
name your favorite white free jazz artist. go on, take your time.

>>74957896

Miles Davis.

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"If it sounds good and feels good, then it IS good!" - Duke Ellington

>>74957613
Nuance

Free from making any sense

>>74957896
>and this rule applies to jazz generally,

Oh, now it's just white men in Free Jazz? Did you just do a quick Google search?

>>74957896
>enters free jazz thread
>isn't aware of free jazz history in relation to europe
>doesn't know that some of the early contributors were white, such as gary peacock
>doesn't know that arguably the first free jazz musician, lennie tristano, was white

damn...

>>74958046
Every board is 50% /pol/ at this point. What did you expect? Race has to be brought up somehow.

>>74957742
>white jazz artists aren't good
>chet baker
Yeah okay buddy ;)

>>74958046
>lennie tristano
literally who?
>>74958096
>chet baker
yeah grampa he's still cool. let me guess, you also like the glenn miller orchestra?

>>74958361
>doesn't even know who Lennie Tristano is
>trying to act like an authority on jazz

holy fuck even Scaruffi doesn't ignore Tristano

>>74958397
Are you expecting a genuine discussion about jazz at the stage this board is in?

>>74958397
>scaruffi
literally who?
>>74958478
>genuine discussion
sounds like rebbit is more your speed friendorino

>>74958581
>genuine discussion
Yeah, what could be better than shitposting like there's no tomorrow? I don't even care, since this board is done for.

>>74958637
yeah you've made so many intelligent points about how stupid I am and this thread is such original uncharted territory, it's a shame people like me have to show up and fuck up your deep, educated discourse

>>74957896
I know that /mu/ mostly hates European jazz, but this is ridiculous

>>74958695
What are you even talking about? There are more than 2 people in this thread.