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/mu/ /Production/ Resources:

>Mixing and Mastering:
! ESSENTIAL Mixing Masterclass with Bob Power: https://youtu.be/cHxMsawJsTc [Embed]
Mixing Engineers Handbook: https://mega.nz/#!YUkgCJpR!bTX1gzqhD7fozTipk4XsRNiWQmHQXBx0T4pHMRvaURw
The Secret of the Mastering Engineer, Bob Katz: https://mega.nz/#!ZAE2EBCb!r0Hf0gho8pL7BlBJ6-6rJznB9SEhCG31NzNJUJX34tU
Audio Engineering and Acoustics ebook bundle: https://mega.nz/#!wEVAVbgB!hwd7vmzaZ9C6wAnVbqIQt37pNUpfpn0t2ecSjZGRNe4
(Bobby Owsinski - The Mixing Engineer's handbook 4th edition, The Recording Engineer's handbook 4th edition, The Mastering Engineer's handbook 4th edition. Timothy Dittmar - Audio Engineering 101, William Moylan - The Art of Recording, F. Alton Everest - Master Handbook of Acoustics, Rod Gervais - Home Recording Studio: Built It Like The Pros, 2nd Edition, Philip Newell - Recording Studio Design

>Theory and Composition:
Music theory for musicians and normal people:
http://tobyrush.com/theorypages/index.html
tl:dr Music Theory:
https://gumroad.com/l/tldrmusic

>Synthesizers and synthesis:
http://www48.zippyshare.com/v/20999348/file.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMF8F9z7Zr8 [Embed]
http://beausievers.com/synth/synthbasics/
http://www.analogindustries.com/b1764/

Free VSTs:
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/free-vst-plugins/
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/12/29/free-vst-plugins-2014/
Other VSTs:
http://pastebin.com/cCA5in17

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Here's a compilation / mix of clips from all my latest tracks that I haven't put up online yet. I'm trying to commit myself to a style but my desire to produce all sorts of music seems to get in the way of that.

Anyway, thoughts / any major issues? Have a click around and let me know what you think.

https://clyp.it/sx5ddcdi

Are generative patching and complex analog FM the only things modular synths are good for?

>>74937529
There are a ton of interesting filters in eurorack. Also if you have a larger system you have a lot of flexibility in how you want to partition the voices on each patch.

>>74937240

I'm not so sure that you'll need to commit to a style with what you're doing - if anything your sound is defined by the processing that you do and that is carried across all of the excerpts in that clip, so I'd say an album would still have consistency of a sort even with changes in genre from one track to the next.

The only time you'd need genre consistency is when you're either producing individual tracks for DJs to play in clubs, or if you're catering to a specific scene (these kinda equate to the same thing) - this naturally narrows your scope and also kinda puts an expiry date on your music too if the scene is at all meme-y.

Issue-wise I can't comment as it sounds like you know what you're doing, so anything that I'd suggest you change in your tracks would just be me changing your music into my music

>>74937755
For the most part it's going to still just be oscillator>filter>vca.

Generative patching just seems like it's gonna take a ridiculous amount of modules to do anything useful or interesting with.

I might trade some of my modules for a complex oscillator and wavefolder and play with that for a while and then just get rid of the whole system when that finally gets stale.

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hows it sounding.

https://clyp.it/g1xynlwx
https://clyp.it/bz11ie2y

Is Ableton reverb objectively bad?

>>74938979
it is ok if you change the setting to high imo

>>74938979
depends
you want a very natural and controllable reverb for your orchestral recordings? it's bad
you need to space out some elements in a busy mix and add a little texture and space? it's fine
everything can be a good tool if you can make it work in your situation

Is there a device that would allow me to mix multiple MIDI inputs on different channels and route it out in one output? I'm trying to set up a band live set with Ableton as the centerpiece, but my audio interface has only one MIDI in. What I would like to do is to have four (4) individual MIDI keyboards on stage, each one would run on a different channel and had that channel assigned in Ableton e.g. one keyboard would be on Ch. 1 which would be piano in Ableton, other keyboard would be on Ch.2 which would have a synth assigned in Ableton etc.

>>74939128
just get a cheap midi interface like a midisport and route in software

>>74938955
please help

>>74939173
Thing is, I also want to do live vocal processing so I need to have mic inputs as well. Is it possible run something like midisport alongside a regular audio interface?

>>74939128

MIDI merge box

>>74939241
Assuming you already have an audio interface with a MIDI in you could use something like a Kenton MIDI merger and then send the output of that into your audio/MIDI interface.

If your MIDI keyboards have MIDI thru you could even daisychain them. You can get some latency doing this kinda stuff though.

>>74939241
yes, ableton can have a huge amount of active midi devices which is completely unrelated to what ASIO does at the same time

>>74939263
>>74939318
This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks /prod/.

>>74939185

Just make some decisions, dude, it's not hard. Use your ears.

>>74939128
do you already have the keyboards? if not, i'd say just go with usb so you don't have to worry about getting keyboards and a separate midi interface

>>74939548
Yes, but my laptop has 3 USB ports and two of them are already occupied by Push and audio interface.

>>74939584
hubs, m808

>>74939463
last times i did it it came out poorly eqd

>>74938955
https://clyp.it/ixcsgjmz

>>74939725

My concern is that your songs right now are the product of all the advice you've asked for on /prod/ so they don't reflect your own ability, and if you're saying that you still can't make your own decisions to produce a good result then you've either not learned anything from that advice or you're not hearing what /prod/ can hear in your mixes.

What's your listening environment like, what do you monitor your mixes on? It might be time to improve your setup.

whats the max length for a free Clyp?

>>74940136
does it have a lenght limit on top of the size limit?

>>74940162
no but I'm lazy so I just want an idea of how much I have to trim my song to post it.

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>>74940285
to 5mb for an anonymous upload

https://clyp.it/4qi023hi

Would you guys be willing to listen to a record comprised of just shit like this if the drumming remained as intricate and the high end was better handled? The synth is really bright atm but I think I have something really strong here.

How do I crack Ableton Live on mac? I've got the chingliu version, where it says "On OSX replace the binary inside 'Abelton Live 9 Suite.app/Contents/MacOS/'" but every time I replace everything inside that folder with the crack it says the Ableton Live is damaged

>>74941203
>t. Ableton inc.

>>74941203
Try another cracked version.

>>74941203
>mac

lol. My little brother has a mac. I told him bout emulators because he's a tard and didn't know. Apparently he couldn't even find a psx emulator. So my best guess is you screwed. On the other hand you can run Logic which I think is supposed to be like the Cadillac of DAWs right?

>>74941956
>Logic which I think is supposed to be like the Cadillac of DAWs right?
not really. it's decent but i don't think it's really got anything unique going for it to put it above other daws

>>74940094
>zero information other than this guy makes covers and can't mix
>immediately suggest new gear

plz stop

>>74942348
>Logic which I think is supposed to be like the Cadillac of DAWs right?

wtf are you even talking about?

audacity is a junker, reaper is cheap and sensible, fl is hyundai (used to suck, doesn't now but people still make fun of it)

all of the big names are fine lol

>>74937126
says the man who writes songs with titles like 'At Mcdonalds'

>>74942436
>audacity
>DAW

fuck off

>>74942385

You've not read the guy's posts for the last few months, then? We've been spoon-feeding him info on just about everything and he hasn't got a single bit better when left to his own devices, so it's time to ask about what he's monitoring on.

>>74942763
Nah I haven't followed him. Last time I saw he was asking for somebody to record the chords to this song for him- if he doesn't have control over recordings that's already a problem he can't control...

does this have too many high mids?

https://clyp.it/xw3vmsan

>>74942763
>>74940094
i think spoonfeeding is a too harsh word for helping with levels and small eq changes

>>74942956
yeah i couldnt get it so i recorded the pick noise from my electric guitar

>>74943071
>helping with levels and small eq changes

Those are creative decisions that you should be making yourself, based upon what you think sounds good.

Maybe you're just thinking aloud by posting these incremental changes here but I can only go by how it looks, and it looks like you have no faith in your own hearing, leading me to ask what you're using to listen back to your mixes?

>>74943071
no, it's spoon feeding

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Copped this Motu 828 MkII at a yard sale out of town. Paid $40.00

All was well for about 3 sessions of recording but now it just clips and shuts off about 3 mins into recording.

Have looked into online @ forums/youtube for help but no luck. Can't find any support as well.

Any of you guys have troubleshoot experience w/ one of these??

Thought i'd give it a shot here.
Plz Help!

>>74938175
>Generative patching just seems like it's gonna take a ridiculous amount of modules to do anything useful or interesting with.
That's why software is better than a hardware modular.

>>74943847
sounds like a problem with the power supply. contact motu, their service is fantastic. they'll point you to a service tech who can fix it (probably just a quick recap) or you can send it in

>>74943861

Those headphones are a mile away from being neutral (especially at the low end of the spectrum) and if you're relying on headphones when making tonal decisions they need to be neutral, can you see why I asked you what you're using?

What you're hearing in your headphones is not what your mix actually sounds like, so the decisions you make to change EQ are not going to sound right either once your mix makes it to the wider world.

>>74944255
Lmao seriously

>>74944038
But then how do you circle jerk about hardware master race ):

>>74944595
>But then how do you circle jerk about hardware master race ):
Why bother when you can actually make good music?

where's the guy that roasts all the clyps?

>>74943455
>Maybe you're just thinking aloud by posting these incremental changes here
maybe i am

>leading me to ask what you're using to listen back to your mixes?
an akg k414p headphone
it has good bass and definition i think, but my ears dont have too good reference

>>74944255
ah i see, i thought they were relatively flat cause i saw them recommended
>can you see why I asked you what you're using?
totally

>What you're hearing in your headphones is not what your mix actually sounds like, so the decisions you make to change EQ are not going to sound right either once your mix makes it to the wider world.
i see, thats a good reason to ask every /prod/ what to do to my EQs
>wider world
haha

>>74944676
I care about having gear than being pragmatic or flexible

>>74944737
Yeah you need to fix your monitoring situation what the fuck. Can't fix what you can't hear

>>74944844
whats the cheapest rasonably neutral headphones you know of?

>>74945029
I was recommended a pair of senheisser hd280s that are supposed to be the best in the $100 range- the bass is shit on them but that's the best you'll get on the low

>>74945029
you should get monitors

>>74945099
well doesnt seem a good upgrade, with this akg at least i can hear the subs

>>74945163
dont want my family listening my music

>>74945312
They're probably much more "neutral" and that's what you need

Seriously just get monitors, it's no comparison

>>74938979
No

>>74945375
>neutral
>cant hear the subs
i need a neutral headphone and a 100hz hipass on all my mixes... got it

>it's no comparison
really? even if they have clearer details, it would make a lot of noise to crank them so one can hear the quiet stuff as one hears on the headphones

>>74945844
If you don't know what he meant by "more neutral" regardless of the low end response, and you think headphones are a suitable because of more detail, you clearly don't know what you're talking about and you've never heard monitors before

>>74945938
Please don't bully :(

>>74945938
>you've never heard monitors before
true

>If you don't know what he meant by "more neutral" regardless of the low end response
i know it: it has a flatter response above the lows. how is it useful to mix with such a headphone if you cant hear the lows and subs in your mix?

>ask for advice
>get good advice
>reject it
Some people baffle me.

>>74946093
But it's not what I wanted to hear!
*googlea until somebody agrees with what I want* xD

>>74946050
Because everything above that is neutral DUH. It's better than being able to hear a full range unevenly.

>>74946093
>>74946130
thanks! i think i'll start hi-passing on my soundcards control panel so when i buy the seinheisers ill be used to it.

>>74946190
I'm sure you're joking but people actually do that when they compare their mixes to the reference

>>74946229
not joking rly, tell me more about that

>>74946277
Ok srs don't do that and plz stop being a dick 8(

The idea is the same- your song should sound the same as the reference with both high and low passed. Pretty simple

>>74946327
why not sound the same with the whole spectrum

ah yeah i wasnt jokin i was really being a dick

>>74946364
I don't do it.

It's probably more useful if you want to sound *exactly* the same. Just let's you focus on that part, if you're on the right track it won't sound different no matter what you do to both of them

>>74947198
sage

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>tfw no modular gf to jam techno tunes with

https://clyp.it/ngi5ybrq

nobody is listening to your shitty bedroom demos

>>74947980
Not yet.

>>74947980
i listen sometimes

>>74947980
Not true, I listen to most

any advice on how to get underwater field recording sounds, or at least something that sounds underwater-y?

>>74948836
use a underwater reverb

>>74948836
search for hydrophone recordings

Am I a hack if I use Nexus presets

What the fuck can you even do with Nexus if you don't use the fucking presets?

>>74948929
seems cool, tell me about it

>>74948949
hydrophone is just an underwater microphone

>>74948836
It's called a phaser and filter you noob

>>74947980
I listen to criticize but do not enjoy them

Plz stop posting shit for praise you insecure fucks

>>74948948
Lmao synth programmers btfo presets are all you need guys

the lows/subs arent all mono on this, are they? the stereo guitars have their stereo lows, and the bass is kinda wide.

fuck im regretting doing that on my cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TejyElIcC44

>>74948980
>>74948923
I was asking more along the lines of good ways to get underwater animal sounding things, not so much effects. Thanks though. Like >>74948964 but less expensive.

>>74949014
is my track lacking bass depth in comparision? if it is, ill take that shit off
https://55chan.org/mu/src/1504472741424.ogg

>>74949031
>expensive
get a soundproof smartphone and record with t

>>74949006
I can program a synth, but these Nexus sounds are fantastic

>>74949155
refx are jews their shit does sound good but it is way over priced imo

>>74949155
Lol

>>74949267
lmao i didn't pay for this shit

>>74949486
yes but people actually do and its retarded

I'm starting to realize I suck at this.
Is this part of the process?

>>74948980
>i listen to criticize not to enjoy
sounds like ur the insecure one my guy
unless you just meant provide feedback but suck at phrasing things

>>74949998
yeah def
realizing your shortcomings is the first step to improving them
work through it

>>74950033
It's solely for feedback lol

>>74949998
Yes it's a huge part, if you can't hear your shortcomings you're doomed to mediocrity

who /studio one/ here?

>>74950139
okay cool sorry for my tone ily

>>74950262
Thx bb ly2

>>74949031
you need to download existing recordings or pay the shekels for one really is the only options i can think of

>>74948948
No. Everyone else is using them. Until you get good with the synth just make something that sounds good

Bump 5 u

Are there any good places to read up about generative composition?

I wanna get into it but I don't feel quite ready to get into MAX/MSP just yet.

>>74953364
Pretty sure all you can do is learn to use your shit really well so you know how to patch up randomly triggering instruments or reaktor etc- just search specific to whatever you're using

>>74949014
If you take your eq and turn it to mid side, take out the mid and the highs and you'll see how much stereo there is (not much)

>>74949014
look up mono compatibility, low lows are best mono because they turn to shit when stereo and played on a mono system like a laptop speaker

>>74948980
>phaser
Fuck don't say that.

>>74950192
You, I assume.

>>74954142
But I enjoy witnessing him embarrass himself

I just listened to the most awesome thing I've ever heard. I was working on a project and my pc glitched, then it got really distorted. I exported the fuck out of it but then I realized it was the computer as a whole that was fuckey and not just the project, so when the pc was back to normal I had just exported normal tracks.

It was very noisy and compressed. It also sounded like the sounds were backwards in pitch (higher notes sounding lower than lower notes), lower in tempo and nothing like the original in general.

Any way I can emulate a computer glitch? I'm playing around with compression, EQ and bitcrusher and I'm getting nowhere near it.

>>74954528
export, clip the fuck out of it and speed/pitch up (no stretching) is the base of that sound... really just fuck with bad gain staging and unmusical sounds in general

>>74954284
When did he embarrass himself?

>>74938955
>https://clyp.it/g1xynlwx
Pick noise needs to come down a tad

>>74954947
I've been adding various glitch effects and I'm getting closer, but it just sounds like shitty industrial music.

mfw I spent 15 minutes finding the latest cracked version of FL Studio for an Anon who was about to download an old version from some shad tracker (>>74906263), and he didn't even download the torrent I uploaded for him, let alone give me my well deserved (You).

Ungrateful bastards.

>>74955250
It's the thought that counts. Don't be upset.

>>74955635
What thought?

>>74955648
Trying to help someone else.

>>74955664
But I don't help people to feel good about doing something nice.
I help them because I want them to have the good thing (whether it's a file or some advice, or whatever).
What's the point of helping if nobody benefits?

>>74955706
In this particular case, none, but having a helpful attitude in general is a good thing.

>>74955752
I know, that's why I keep helping when I can, and although I am actually a bit bummed, that rant (which was about this particular case and not about helping in general) was a joke/shitpost.

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https://clyp.it/sisszhal

girl is yeriel23

here's an update of a track i posted earlier in the thread

>wanna record voice
>caught the nastiest fucking cold two days ago
fugg

>>74957403
record it anyways it might work

>>74957636
No it's fucked. It'll have to wait.

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Really want one of these, they're very rare to come by 2nd hand unfortunately.

>>74957232
Sounds like your first week producing. Keep it up.

>>74958115
I wish they'd release the editor and sound engine as a VST.

>>74958115
What;s different about it compared to zillion other things like that

>>74958115
Why nord modular and not msp or waiting for VCV to come out in 6 days.

>>74958658
Name one.

>>74958731
no u

feedback on this?

is it too cheesy? is it too unintelligible?

https://clyp.it/koveuro0

>>74958783
I can't think of one thing like it, let alone 'zillions'.

>>74958821
What the hell is it

>>74958571
it would be nice but they would probably never do it

>>74958836
nord_modular_g1_keys.jpg

Critique?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83aV_0tlJqw&feature=youtu.be

>>74958881
I like your synth choice and 90's feel to it. but as far as that goes, that's about where my praise stops.

I know you're trying to go for a retro 90's feel. but I will say, if you're trying to stand out among the sea of retro 90's. you need something a little bit more unique

>>74958881
Not bad, sounds exactly like it should, I like it.

>>74958878
So its a synthesiser

>>74958986
What do you mean for "uniqueness"?
I guess the melodic aspect is a bit lacking. Most of my inspiration comes from lo-fi house artists such as Ross From Friends, DJ Boring and most of Lobster Theremin.
I'm trying to get my synthesis as tight as possible. I spent about 10 hours trying to get that lo-fi kick sound. Same with most of the percussions.
I don't really think it's generic, although it's not outstanding really.

>>74959071
modular synthesizer that wont cost you a fortune and take up a while room

>>74959071
yes. it also sucks.

hows these tracks sounding in comparision to the master

https://clyp.it/qu0jl4ki
https://clyp.it/4mituten

reference
https://clyp.it/qt1jvsmm

i think the first one has less highs and the second one has less mids

in comparision to the reference****

Fuck it, I'm making an Industrial Electro Swing album.

>>74959105
He means unique idiot. If you want people to listen to your music, make it a little interesting.

so I have had issues with speaker buzz for a while now and this shit is just getting on my nerves
>JBL lsr308s
>XLR out to 1/4" to a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 usb interface which works great
Thing is, when I unplug the interface and have the speakers all the way up (no sound coming thru of course), there's no fuzz. So I know it's not a problem with my monitors internally but some power issue whereabouts during the route to my PC.

Is my interface really to blame? Phantom power makes it worse, so my guess is that's the case, but I really thought it should be able to handle a simple monitor setup for christs sake. Any ideas? Time to upgrade interfaces?

>just starting out
>been working on the same track for two months
>only have 1:20 worth of shit
>only have thirty seconds of cohesion in the track

i'm glad i'm not trying to make anything of myself with this shit because i've only been pissed off at myself since i started

>>74948836
>>74948980
***just for all the newfags out there***: 99.999% of the time this is just some fag that got no (You) for his clyp and wants to cry about it

>>74960197
Work on other tracks. No shit you're getting frustrated, you can't make any progress like that.

>>74960154
Could be phone or ipad or something

>>74948836
I have exactly what you're looking for and I'm not telling you about it

>>74959806
Reference is packed to hell with highs.

>>74960274
i only have two tracks so far, and i already abandoned the other one

i don't like the idea of not finishing shit man

>>74960328
do you mean compressed

>>74960485

https://medium.com/the-prototype/why-quantity-should-be-your-priority-3bc2b16fe3f5

>>74960734
There's a lot of treble.

>>74960485
With your current skill level you wont finish any listenable tracks any time soon, so get to grinding skill first and then worry about finishing your songs.

>>74960204
>someone asks how to make basic sound
>someone tells him how to but slightly mean

HAHA CRYBABY WHO NO ONE LISTENED TOO

okay

>>74959806
>>74960734
>>74960328

just reading that exchange and providing a reference, i already knew who this was going to be lmao

>>74960916
hm?

How big of a difference would it make when it comes to guitar recording to record a chord just by playing it on guitar as usual vs the Mutt Lange "record each note at once as separate tracks" thing?

>>74960485
You can't think about finishing a painting when you have yet to learn how to hold the brush.
You can't think about finishing a race when you have just started learning to operate a car.
You can't think about building a house if you barely know how to mix cement.
Etc...

Focus on learning as much as you can, regardless of the result of your track, in order to build a library of knowledge and techniques in your head, that you can use later on to actually finish tracks that you're happy with.

If you keep trying to finish tracks when you're not ready to yet, you're only going to frustrate yourself because they're obviously not going to be as good as you expect them to be, since you won't have the knowledge or the experience to make them anything other than bad.

>>74960973
oh absolutely HUGE difference

if you put in the time and effort rather than being lazy you'll be able to spend way more time recording and trying to reach your desired result!

>>74960973
>"record each note at once as separate tracks"
lol what the fuck?

>>74960973
>record each note at once as separate tracks
This sounded like a dumbass idea when I first read it but it might be actually cool. I'll try it one of these days.

>>74960973
>record each note at once as separate tracks
this is some dedicated autism

>>74960973
>the Mutt Lange "record each note at once as separate tracks" thing
Where do I learn about such techniques that non-electronic producers used?

>>74960869
that was an accident I meant this >>7494798 post

>>74960154
No actual suggestions on this basic an issue? Give me a fucking break

>>74958792
A bit cheesy but it fits the style. I'd make voice clearer, tho. It's behind the instruments a lot of times. Maybe sidechain it.

What is a good sound card for about 100 bucks? Please respond

>>74960973
Idk if I would do this with guitar but def would multitrack a nice mono synth like this.

>>74962039
>good
>100 bucks

Doesn't exist kid. Steinberg ur22 because fuck focusrite

>>74961783
Literally just read about rock albums lol. And then there's all the sound on sound shit.... google recording techniques

>>74962111
It's common

>>74962428
>Literally just read about rock albums lol. And then there's all the sound on sound shit.... google recording techniques
Googling recording techniques or rock album production gives me a billion results. What's something more specific I can Google?
English isn't my first language and I don't really listen to rock, so I'm not very good at this.

I'll check out the Sound on Sound stuff, thank you.

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>when you realize your masters sound like shit and theyve been on soundcloud for weeks now for you to remaster and repost them

>>74962507
Do you have a specific goal in mind?

Most of these "different" ideas are about recording guitars and drums, and really don't apply to synth stuff

>>74963090
Gotta give it a minute until you decide it's finished lol

>>74963444
i gave it days

>>74963444
No goal in particular. Just learning.
A lot of these techniques are indeed used for recording real instruments, but they're often cool for doing things in a DAW.
I do a lot of sample manipulation and layering for my sound design, and it's nice to "repurpose" those techniques for these new applications.

For example, I can take a miking technique and think about its fundamental properties and why it makes sense, and then reproduce the same effect in the DAW by layering different versions of the same sound that have been created to emulate the different microphones.

Or in this case, the idea of singling out the voices in a chord instead of playing them polyphonically can be used in all sorts of harmonies in a DAW, as I've een doing for years.

noob level interface?

just need to be able to power headphones or monitors. also want to plug in mic

should i just get scarlet solo? is it trash?

>>74964301
doesn't matter if you're not using a mic. the headphone amp is a little weak on the scarletts but it's whatever

>>74961944
is the buzz constant or does it only come up from time to time?