DEFEND EDM

>>74933661
If only degenerates used the energy and money they spend on drugs and raving for getting a job and exercising, we'd have a much better society.

>>74933661
>EDM
A genre that a few people like that have massive concerts for a mass amount of people who just want to party.

>>74933695
and yet here you are on 4chan

>>74933661
not all
seriously
not all edm is shit, /mu/ just hasn't explored enough

>>74933705
destroyed

Why would I defend some bitch who's flipping me the bird?

Plus lip piercings are gross!

Hope these two little skanks die from A.I.D.S.

>>74933661
with that armor? nah, thanks

>>74933695
because what we need is more fucking competition in all job marketplaces right

>>74933702
>EDM
>genre

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>>74933695
>rave fans need to exercise

Chads are in better shape than you

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>>74933661
Did the girl on the right pierce her stomach? Not the navel, I mean to the sides. That's a weird look

EDM is a retarted term and most people on here are pards anyways so no real point in trying to defend it

>>74933943
yes

also look up a dermal anchor its the non retarded way of doing piercings like that

>>74933661
EDM is purely functional/environmental music, it strictly services a purpose (4 on the floor beats are easy to dance to and songs can be easily mixed into one another). There is no thought of artistic expression in it because that would only distract from its intended purpose.

>>74933983
you sound as robotic as your description of edm

>>74933983
>4 on the floor beats are
Shit, and old-fashioned at this point. Headache inducing.

>>74933705
OP BTFO

>>74933661
Is this from Burning Man or what.

>>74933968
This. My ex tried a piercing like that above her navel and wondered why it wouldn't heal properly.

>>74933996
he's right though. I wouldn't call it bad music, but functional is correct.

>>74933945
It's painful to watch sometimes, mostly hilarious though

>>74933732
>Hoping for anyone's death
Wew lad clam down

>>74933945
>most people on here are pards anyways
only on bleep. rest of /mu/ thinks shit like pendulum and noisia are the end all of dance music

>>74934011
Most of the people at those alternative festivals are pretty buttfucking hideous.

>>74933878
>>74933661
These are either models or cherrypicked hot girls from a festival since nobody photographs the fatties/gremlins.

>>74934011
not enough filth and crust in that pic to be from burning man

I hope they all fucking die

>>74933695
>getting a job
you mean doing something worthwhile

>>74934033
This concept of functional is retarded though because even so called art music is functional by that very definition. You guys trying to sound smart but saying stupid shit.

>>74934094
we're all gonna die

>>74934103
>You guys trying to sound smart but saying stupid shit.
kids on /mu/

>>74933695
EDM tickets are pretty fucking pricey though and these guys are able to afford them. They definitely work unlike the NEETs of 4chan.

>>74934082
I think you are mixing up rainbow gathering with burning man

>>74934121
burning man is nasty as fuck dude

Yeh but even when you Google Image search "burning man girls" it pulls up cherry picked hot ones first and you never see the legions of disgusting...things that attend BM.

>>74934094
Is your life so empty that you need hatred to fill it up?

>>74934144
Duh, the pictures that get the most clicks are the ones search engines put up top.

>>74933661
Nothing to defend. It's always been degenerate gutter trash with no benefit to anyone and anyone who is seriously into the 'culture' of it is a waste of space.

The music used to be nice in the early 90s in the UK, that's maybe the only good thing about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4o9veYykg
At the very least in the UK once it was banned I assume people grew up and stopped being such massive fagets, but since that can't happen now I wonder what the outcome will be.

>>74933661
It's no worse than 90% of what's posted on /mu/ be it rock, metal, punk, pop, hip hop etc

I hope no one is unironucally attempting to imply QoTSA, Weezer, Kate Bush, Taylor Swift, Kanye or Thugger have more qualities to them than Guetta or Jeff Mills?

>>74933695
Kettle calls the pot black

>>74933695
The vast majority of drug users have jobs.

>>74933661
It's shit, ambiance at EDM concert is bad, girls are stupid and guys are morons. Most of the time really uneducated. Not worth anyone time.

>>74933983
Christgau was right when he said you have to be in da club to "get" EDM/techno. If you listen to it on your home stereo system, you won't understand what's going on or be able to appreciate the stuff.

pardners are so stupid

>>74933661
Superior to rap and trap, indie and metal, most pop

Inferior to experimental and prog rock

it's utter shit but some artists are bearable and not completly repetetive

X&G is good trap
Noisia is good DnB
Slumberjack is good Future Bass
CONFESSION has a lot of good House artists from every sub genre

>inb4 someone replies with le underground house
I'm obviously talking about mainstream EDM

>>74935087
Most mainstream [any genre] is shit.

>>74933878
to be fair the girl on the left is crazy hot

>>74934844
Anon people dont go to edm for music

Are we talking about "EDM" as in EDC/Ultra or all techno, house, jungle/breaks, trance and UKGarage since Cybotron?

>>74933661
Fucking no.
>>74933695
>EDM on drugs
Sounds fucking terrible.

>>74934082
went to Burning Man 8x, can confirm

>>74935215
Did you get laid while you were there?

>>74935330
yes

>>74935215
I think it would be impossible not to get laid there. Those people will fuck anything, man, woman or beast.

>>74935426
if you don't like dust, drugs and hippies, don't go to burning man. otherwise, however....

>>74933705
LMAO

>>74933705
>and yet here you are on 4chan
Yeah, you specifically know what kind of life every single person who's been on 4chan leads. You can't even start to pretend to know that.

>>74935656
And you can't assume to know every single person who attended a rave or club.

>>74933695
t. bitter virgin

>>74935746
Where did I even imply that? This was my first post in the thread.
>>74935656

>>74933661
I can enjoy it because it puts me in a good mood, even if EDM is churned out half baked and usually follows a cookie cutter format

>>74933661
People still listen to EDM? I thought everyone had moved on to the next genre of shitty manufactured pop music.

EDM is a functional and social genre. Conventional rock/pop songs have an essential story arc we find satisfying that listening to EDM generally won't deliver, but that kind of song structure would sabotage its function. To get into a dance club, it needs to be repetitive and have a comfortable beat, and the emotionally satisfying structure is the build up and release (or, since the mid 00s, the "drop.")

When I was in my very early 20s I went clubbing a lot more than I do now, in my late 20s. But I do find EDM great music for studying since it isn't distracting. Admittedly, my favorite genres are ultra-organic things like crust punk, bebop jazz, and singer/songwriters, but music is useful for putting you in certain mindsets, and EDM is one of the best for putting you in good, clear minded, and motivated states of mind because of the lack of story, and their momentum.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4izZYfo58-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P09rxVaQAM

As a fan of alternative/indie music, I do like EDM's role in genres like alt-dance, grebo, and madchester:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US9nVBuDHhg

>there's people that listen EDM alone in their rooms attempting to 'get it'
lmao

>>74935834
Only good response in this thread. Thank you

>>74935834
But that's not EDM.
EDM = bigroom american Ultra Music Fest wankery.

Martin Garrix, David Guetta, Carnage. Shit like that

>>74935834
A lot of crust punk and singer/songwriter stuff is far more repetitive than the worst EDM. Also wtf is a "story arc", "functional"? You are just using meaningless words to sound smart rather than make a legit comment.

>>74935904
:)

>>74935923
I've been through this argument and I'm not interested in having it again, but I reject the notion that the term only applies to that kind of dance-pop. The term may have come into use much more recently than electronic dance genres like house, trance, and DnB, but I would say it's still an umbrella term that encompasses them. I would say that getting so specific about what EDM means is 1) disconnected from how people actually use the term, 2) something only people seeking to insult dance-pop fans do, and 3) overthinking the issue.

>>74935834
I sure love the storylines in rock; the thousands and thousands of 4 chord ditties about >tfwngf

So deep and meaningful

If every techno, house and jungle tune is EDM you have to include all hip hop and trap too.

>>74935967
No. If you believe any rock song is more repetitive than EDM, then you're missing the entire point of the genre. EDM songs need to repeat for long periods of time because they're used for dancing, and people want to dance for a while. Most songs last longer than rock/pop songs, and repeat in ways that won't disrupt dancing.

My comparison to a story arc is in reference to the intro - build - conflict - resolution structure of stories, which is reflected in a song's intro - chorus - bridge - chorus - tag structure, or alternately the intro - build - fantasia - resolution - tag structure.

My functional, I mean it serves a function, that function being dancing.

I assumed that was all obvious, and you're either being angsty and difficult, or you're just a very dumb person.

>>74933661
I make electronic music actually, this is my first time on /mu/ and i can't say i'm surprised at what most of you think
That being said i hope to change that

>>74935990
It's not about the story line being deep. It's about there being a narrative. Even something as simple as "I want to hold your hand" is a narrative.

>>74936025
So you only like music with lyrics, kek

>>74936046
No. In the post you're responding to, I actually mention a benefit of EDM is that it lacks a narrative, since those narratives can be distracting. This helps EDM put people in a clear state of mind, and can be beneficial for studying. But now you're just mindlessly trying to argue.

>>74936012
You're purposefully comparing music like Calvin Harris to King Crimson or completely ignorant and lied about going clubbing and the variety in dance music.

>>74933705
>working on sunday

>>74936070
Most pop/rock is made for dancing to at gigs and the catchy verse there to sing along too.

>>74936077
I used to go clubbing a lot. People like Guetta are basically doing house music, even if it's a simpler pop form. The Exploited and Wire are both punk bands, but Wire is a much more intelligent band. That doesn't make them a different genre. You're dumb, and it's ridiculous that you try to bring King Crimson into this.

>>74934934
this
fuck yanks

>>74935978
Except it's not because nothing outside of spinnin shit is reffered to as EDM, involved in the EDM scene or even acknowledged when talking about EDM.

Just because it stands for Electronic Dance Music doesn't mean it's literally all that. It's the same as saying that the Beatles are a DnB group because they have drums and bass in their tracks

>>74936012
Except EDM doesn't even have that incase the normalfag audience it's shooting for gets bored. So enjoy 2 build ups every track

>>74936110
You're not really this dumb.

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The only reason why edm gets such a bad reputation is because of how idiotic some DJ's are, and the current race culture in america

>>74936135
It's nothing like calling the Beatles a DnB group, I'm not sure if you're trying to be cute by making these ridiculous arguments, of if you're just extremely autistic. But you're clearly being disingenuous here, so I'm done, kid.

>>74934094
yet you probably beat off to this pictures you cuck

>>74936158
just call them niggers

>>74933661
I wish I could be like them

>>74936217
the implication is that the segregation is more on the white side...

>>74936158
>filename

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I'm gay and EDM is the songs of my people

Stop appropriating our culture, lettuce crotches

>>74936012
So are you saying anything with a minimalist structure is incapable of having its own "story arc"? Are you fucking retarded? I am not being angsty, I am calling you out on your stupidity.

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>>74936166

Juan Atkins = John Lennon
Derrick May = Paul McCartney
Kevin Saunderson = George Harrison

>>74936282
I'm not saying it's incapable of it, I'm saying it generally doesn't. You're fucking retarded, and now I can see you're fucking autistic by how petulant you are. Kill yourself.

>>74936139
Foo Fighters are no different to Pendulum

>>74936369
already responded to this
>>74936113

>>74933705
LMAO absolutely, utterly, and unequivocally destroryed

>>74936387
All you did was confirm your comparing the worst of EDM with "the best" of pop/rock and complete ignorance of anything played outside your local nightclub.

>>74936430
No. Now you're contradicting yourself, since you claimed the house music I posted wasn't EDM.

You make idiotic arguments and you have a really unpleasant personality. Do you have any redeeming qualities, or do you just a burden on everyone who knows you?

>>74936350
>it generally doesn't
That's blatantly untrue though as there's always layers of melodies, timbres, etc. built on top of each other to give a progression approach that is different from generic verse chorus bridge, but still a progression. Also lmao you're too triggered now that peeps are calling your pseudo intellectual shit out.

I don't get this whole EDM thing.
Has it become its own genre or what? I was under the assumption that EDM was the general term for a variety of genres that emphasized the use of Sampling and Sound Synthesis, from House to Gabber, from DnB to Harsh Noise etc.

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>>74933705
go easy on him, anon

>>74936450
I never did that. All electronic music with a repitive beat incl. Hip hop is EDM.

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>>74936430
>worst of EDM
>Pendulum
The post-Skrillex trapstep remix culture is the worst EDM has to offer, and DnB is respected on /mu/, go have bad taste somewhere else.

>>74936558
It became it's own genre as soon as people realised it was a marketing term in which the majority of electronic dance music is ignored. Some people like to argue that it's still all dance music but they're retarded

>>74933661
I think you just did.

>>74936591
Pendulum are one of the worst of d&b

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>not sure if people are talking about actual dance music or the shitty genre that is EDM

pards ruin everything

>>74936558
EDM is literally anything repetitive with electronic instrumentation as the backbone of the song.

House, techno, breaks, trance, garage, hip hop

>>74936602
Pendulum is better then a lot of liquid shitters like netsky and high contrast...

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>>74936602

>>74936591
I miss the 2011-2013 craze of dubstep though. Some incredible songs came out like ruffneck fullflex and 16Bit frzr9000

>>74936616
You forgot synthpop

>>74935157
She looks like a young Tina Fey and I love it

>>74936515
I never said there weren't layers. I said the structure is set up in a way to serve a function, rather than "tell a story." It's another way of saying it's not about resolution.

My entire argument has been very simple. EDM has a different structure than rock because it serves a different function. That function is dancing, and in nightclubs. People connect with rock in a different way than they do with EDM. EDM is designed for dancing. A lot of rock is danceable, but for the most part that isn't the most important consideration. For me EDM is good for concentration since it isn't distracting like rock often is, because with rock it's harder to ignore the narrative of the song.

There's nothing pseudo-intellectual about it. You're more triggered that anyone would dare to disagree with you, and that's because you're a petulant manchild who needs everything to conform to his neat little bullshit. It's because you have some kind of cognitive disorder, whether it be autism, OCD, borderline personality disorder, or something else. Go ahead and off yourself, it will end the pain.

>>74936616
Except EDM isn't even repetitive unless you mean that all the tracks use the exact same arrangement.

>>74936705
That's dumb, you're dumb, kill yourself

>>74936716
WORD REPEATS AND SNARE BUILD UP HAPPENS WHITE SYNTHS RAISES IN PITCH
WOW JUST LIKE EVERY SINGLE OTHER EDM TRACK
SO FUCKING GOOD
SO FUCKING REPETITIVE
THANK YOU LORD GUETTA

>>74936701
> I said the structure is set up in a way to serve a function, rather than "tell a story." It's another way of saying it's not about resolution.
This is also untrue as the storytelling unfolds in a way similar to say...Neon Genesis Evangelion (things go fine at first then slowly start to fall apart) or Gurren Lagann (things start small then build up from there) to use anime examples.

If you think there wasn't a time when rock music was used for clubs, you're also objectively wrong.
>because with rock it's harder to ignore the narrative of the song.
Sounds like you give too much importance to lyrics. Based electronic music taking that shit out of the music.
>You're more triggered
>and that's because you're a petulant manchild who needs everything to conform to his neat little bullshit. It's because you have some kind of cognitive disorder, whether it be autism, OCD, borderline personality disorder, or something else. Go ahead and off yourself, it will end the pain.
HAHAHAHAHA

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>>74933878
>>74933661
how is to fuck a degenerate slut?

>>74936762
1) Be high up in the social hierarchy
2) Have friends who are Chads
3) Be dominant and forward
4) Basically sexually assault her. If you messed up on any of the first three points, you'll get arrested. But if you're perceived as a high status guy who fits in, she'll just go along with it because it's the socially acceptable thing to do, and for some reason your lack of a soul will reassure her damaged one by abusing her in the way she's used to.

>>74936133
Sadly it is. The american rave scene is atrocious compared to the European one

>>74936738
What you're saying is just disconnected from reality. You're saying Neurosis and Radiohead are just as functionally made for dancing as Guetta? That's retarded. What you're saying would only be true if rock had stopped developing in the early 60s. Admittedly, 50s rock was very geared toward dancing. It evolved into something else.

ok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a79L0tC-S0o

>>74936882
>You're saying Neurosis and Radiohead are just as functionally made for dancing as Guetta?
I never said they specifically were? I just said that rock music has its club uses, that's it.
>What you're saying would only be true if rock had stopped developing in the early 60s. Admittedly, 50s rock was very geared toward dancing. It evolved into something else.
But we have stuff from the pub rock and hard rock genres far beyond the 60s that exists as music like that though.

How can you get so btfo to where you have to rely on putting words in my mouth to even have anything resembling an argument?

>>74936882
Here you go again, making unequal comparisons

>>74936923
>>74936985
You said rock is designed for dancing. I gave examples of major bands that aren't, and they're the rule, not the exception. You haven't made a single convincing argument.

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>>74936666

>>74937010
>You said rock is designed for dancing.
I said there is rock that's designed for dancing not ALL rock is. It's amazing the leaps of logic you're making here from putting words in my mouth to false equivalences.
>I gave examples of major bands that aren't, and they're the rule, not the exception.
Yes because there are so many more artsy rock bands and atmosludge bands than typical upbeat hard rock bands, right? What a fucking joke.

>>74937010
There are lots of "EDM" artists who aren't producing primarily for dancing too but you have no clue so what's the point, this is why calling ALL techno, house etc EDM

I'm off to sit still and thoroughly enjoy the complexity and underwater tales of Drexciya

>>74937054
I haven't made a single leap of logic. You just keep making ridiculous, untrue claims. Reminder that you're the one who first got upset anyone would dare disagree with him, and you haven't made a single insightful statement.

>>74937077
Genres are by definition general descriptions. Generalities.

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less talk more edm whores

>>74936762
Deadfish. They might "look hot", but EDM chicks are too tweeked out to do anything in bed.

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Do you miss UKF /mu/?

lmao if ur an incel

just lol @ being so unfuckable

>>74937150
Why do Americans ruin everything related to electronic dance music?

>>74937295
Why do Americans ruin everything?

>>74937200
miss it? It's still here

>>74937309
It's still there, but the quality of the uploads has gone to shit

>>74937245
This but unironically

This is now a dubstep thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2abDPo9jzA

>>74933661
you get whores like this which is cool.

>>74937200
>>74937309
UKF has always been shit, the D&B and the Dubstep channel (I don't know if they have any other channels but they are probably shit as well).

>>74937371
Can we turn it into a Sublow thread instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1VqMBwoQf0

>>74937405
Dnb channel does find some okay stuff, but the majority is the radio friendly crap

> disliking a genre that gets attractive girls naked and horny, that's designed to get them to grind on you
irredeemable fags

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>>74933878
>>74933661
just flat my ass up senpai

>>74934853
What a bad joke haha

>>74933695
>getting a job and exercising
More like killing commies.

>>74933661
Zyzz definitely fucked them, so by extension the whole of 4chan did cos he was us..

Miss u Zyzzbrah xx

>>74937200
kinda
I like their UKF Bass House CD they brought out

>>74933878
mirin that jawline on the left