ITT: Artists who sold out bigtime

The Who

>>74870093
I get the unfunny joke you're trying to make, but in all seriousness how many TV commercials has Pete Townshend licensed their songs in?

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Aerosmith. Duh.

From this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EvGn22Mplg

To this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss0kFNUP4P4

>>74870159
I am tempted to say either too many or not enough. Anyhow, it's not like The Who made those songs for the commercials, just licensed every last one of them, which isn't as bad.

Anyhow - if we're talking sellouts, John Lydon and butter.

IIRC We Built This City was originally offered to Heart, but they didn't take it (smart move). Anyway, Grace Slick admitted that she'd pretty much mentally checked out by the Reagan years and was only still in it for money and she's denounced that song.

Didn't you know how Journey were a prog fusion instrumental band for the first two albums?

when you sell out and make 80's as fuck pop music and look like buckaroo banzai but still the GOAT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hDbpF4Mvkw

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>>74870088

>>74870281
Actually, Journey were always supposed to be a commercial hit factory from their inception. Columbia and their manager got together a couple of industry veterans (including guys who'd played with Hendrix and Santana) with the intention of making a supergroup like Bread (and later Foreigner).

Problem was, they didn't go along with the script and instead made two albums of weird experimental prog music. The albums bombed and Columbia management chewed them out. "We signed you to make radio friendly pop ditties. Now do it." They moved in more of a pop direction on album #3 but the songs were boring and they had no vocal personality in the band, so now the record label made them take Steve Perry or get dropped entirely. They didn't want to do it, but they were literally going hungry so had no choice.

The rest is corporate schlock rock history.

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https://youtu.be/9jwt_fEAszQ

What about bands that do a reverse sell out like Talk Talk, Kanye, or Radiohead?

As much as everyone talks about artistic integrity, sometimes the pressure to go commercial can be strong especially out of financial concerns. For example, Blue Oyster Cult sometimes went commercial (eg. Fire of Unknown Origin). They've admitted that they weren't necessarily proud of it, but there were times when they really needed money.

>>74870417
Pearl Jam post-1994.

How about Mariah Carey?

>start out as a MOR singer along the lines of Celine Dion and Whitney Houston with a soccer mom audience
>in the late 90s, switch to the teenybopper crowd and an R&B sound with guest appearances by rappers

Rod Stewart after the early 70s.

>>74870088
Ellie Goulding. Earlier stuff was actually good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oujtnVwwP64

Any post-60s band with a Desmond Child or Vinnie Poncia writing credit.

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>>74870196
Went from sleaze rock to commercial sleaze rock, surprise surprise
>>74870395
This big time
>>74870413
Always a gimmick, even Blue Album
>>74870532
Not a fan but so can be said from most grunge if they were "still alive" at the point.
>>74870621
Most definitely

>>74870705
>Went from sleaze rock to commercial sleaze rock

>Dionne Warren-penned gushy piano ballad
>rock
You didn't actually open the link, did you.

>>74870417
I'd call Tori Amos reverse selling out. Have you ever seen Y Cnt Tori Read?

ZZ Top with Eliminator. They completely went MTV and turned into a KISS-like cartoon band consisting of le funny bearded dudes who did commercials for various products, when back in the 70s they were balls-busting blues rock.

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There is only one answer. From Anarcho Crust Punk to...something. Celtic Frost are up there too for Cold Lake.

The Rolling Stones censoring their setlist and lyrics to play in China.

>>74870753
I live in Massachusetts, I've heard enough b side Aerosmith.

How about Queen? Sure, they'd had the huge hit singles from TNOTW but then Another One Bites The Dust was a big club/dance hit so they figured "Hey we can make a whole album of dance tracks".

And so there was Hot Space and it was complete shit. The end.

Billy Idol. He presented himself as a first generation punk when he was a Sex Pistols hanger on and then later became a cartoon MTV version of a punk.

>>74870785
Not anon, but have you heard any of her 2000s output.

Her discography is basically an inverse parabola in terms of musical intentions

Rush were definitely a major sellout from the 70s hard rocking band with prog tendencies to the 80s supercharged all edges smoothed over New Wave influenced prog pop band to huge commercial success.

>>74870532

No Code was released in 1996 and it was the opposite of a sell out album

>>74870998
Genesis

>>74870982
Wait, how could Billy Idol sell out when he was never authentic to begin with?

>>74870196

They literally stole that song from fucking Celine Dion.

>>74871007
That's why I said reverse selling out.

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>>74870417
Scott Walker. Went from being a 60's boy band pop icon to a recluse that makes scary avant-garde music.

>>74870925
It's I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing.

Lenny Kravitz always seemed to be fake as fuck.

>start out as a retro-60s artist who wears John Lennon sunglasses and plays mock Hendrix licks to appeal to middle aged baby boomers who wanted a message of peace and love or something and didn't want to deal with all the 90s bands singing about suicide and heroin addiction
>of course he went into other things to increase the size of his bank account, eventually making enough money that he could retire comfortably on, only occasionally making a movie appearance or playing the Super Bowl halftime show

He always came off as an actor more than a musician to me.

>>74870998
See the issue comes with the term "selling out".
They always wanted to "smooth out the edges". At the time, New Wave was the new horizon of music. Rush went to it with open arms. A lot of fans don't understand that Peart is first a writer and reader, and second a drummer. During the 70s his lyrics consisted of him regurgitating whatever was in his reading material at the time from Ayn Rand to Nietzsche.
In 1980, they released Permanent Waves which was much more punctual. As opposed to their early epics with multiple movements they made a decision to be able to differentiate between pieces better and establish many more themes while still keeping their feet on the ground to bring that sort of songwriting to a halt.
From that point on, lyrically all of the music (except Pye's stuff) was written, shall we say, "closer to the heart", being Neil's original perspectives and philosophy instead of ripping off of others who came before him. Much more genuine.
That's why while I respect your opinion I must also respectfully disagree.

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Duh.

>>74870998
They sold out again during the grunge era. I love Rush, but they were always massive fad-riders.

>>74870196
I'm glad Aerosmith sold out. I like Pump and Permanent Vacation. I thought they were a better live band in the 90s than they were in the late 70s and early 80s. Or was that the backing tapes making them sound so good?

>>74870935
When did Queen sell out? They were always an extremely eclectic band that followed their own muse. They dabbled in a ton of genres but never did a completely genre specific album although "Hot Space" comes close.

>>74871056

sorry, I thought you were responding to the thread's topic.
That phase of Pearl Jam started earlier tho, when they began to refuse to shoot promotional music videos. Then they sold out again, around the beginning of the '00s.

>>74871195
Because. "Another One Bites The Dust" was a big club hit so they figured they can do an entire album of dance music. An argument could even be made that The Game was the point where they sold out because they adopted synthesizers and abandoned their true rock sound, however I think that album is perhaps one of Queen's best even if is the point where they sold out. I even said just because they sold out, it doesn't mean any music they released after that point is necessarily bad.

>>74871217
Maybe, but I always thought it was more because Freddie Mercury was a huge dance music enthusiast and simply wanted to do a whole album of it.

>>74871077
Yeah and the first is their cover of Train Kept A Rolling, I get it. Like I said, everyone's parents play them on repeat around here because they "once played at our high school".

Grand Funk Railroad when they hired Todd Rundgren to produce and started making gimme radio singles.

>>74871232
The Run DMC collab was really risky, cutting-edge stuff in the mid-1980s when hip-hop was still underground and collaborating with any black artists was going to piss off your toothless white trash rock fans.

After that however, Aerosmith's career was fucking nauseating and the worst kind of commercial selling out.

If I'm not mistaken, The Black Eyed Peas were a legit alternative hip hop band before Fergie joined them.

Maroon 5. It took them one album to sell out.

The Bangles with Walk Like An Egyptian.

>>74870093
>>74870088
>>74870196
All of these were desperate cash grabs from the very start. Rock is a very desperate, corporate, cringey sellout genre. It's no wonder baby boomers love it. Fake edginess

>>74871270
>toothless white trash rock fans
I live in Mass, not Alabama

And in all honesty, Walk This Way was just a huge gimmick to make both Run and Aerosmith seem like saints. It's corny as fuck song.

Easy ones.

>Metallica
>Green Day
>Steve Winwood
>Santana (Smooth is one of the worst songs ever made)
>Neil Diamond (some of his early stuff was actually pretty good before he turned into MOR garbage)

>>74871278
Came in this thread to post them
Just compare this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN9muHLuHDc
To this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSD4vsh1zDA

The drop in quality is unbelievable

>>74871296
Them too, Songs About Jane is a legitimately good album. Shiver is a jam.

>>74871278
Yup, but then Will I Am took the lead to be the biggest sell out even above "Miss Lumpy".

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>how
money :^)
Pic related: a letter to the Rolling Stone by Slick Grace about not selling out (irony)

>>74871310
They wanted Debbie to sing lead vocals on WLAE but the record label wouldn't let them. Also they were forced to use professional songwriters on that album.

Outkast, although their sell out material isn't that bad.

U2

>>74871296

Wasn't their debut album a very mainstream and middle-of-the-road blend of soul, pop and rock already?

Bruce fucking Springsteen.

>The River was the first time he went commercial, then he went hella commercial with BITUSA
>using an American flag for the cover and making a song about a disillusioned Vietnam vet which sounds like a patriotic anthem to those who didn't read the lyrics (ie. most people)
>using synths for maximum commercial appeal
>also looking like Rambo with a headband and his newly-buffed biceps

He followed Jon Landau's formula to make sure not to lose ONE single possible fan (read: buyer of product). Jon Landau previously had talked the MC5 into abandoning their political stance and to follow their rock star ambitions and also to forget about John Sinclair, convinced them Sinclair was holding them back, and just forget him guys, let him rot in jail; and then he produced that horribly thin album, of Back In The U.S.A., where one of the most powerful band's sound was "streamlined" and one of emaciation. I'm a huge Springsteen fan, but Jon Landau is the worst.

There's a great book called Mansion On The Hill by Fred Goodman.

>>74871368
My dad saw the Bangles on the '87 tour. Great set until they start lip-syncing WLAE. It was so fucking embarrassing he said people actually walked out of the place.

>>74871361
>>74870088
To be honest, I thought that there was nothing left of the original JA on Knee Deep In The Hoopla except Grace Slick. Kantner, Balin, and the rest were all gone by that time.

>>74871065
His musical journey is one of the most unusual and interesting ever.

>>74871345
>Metallica
Going grunge...cheap fad riding is cheap.

>>74871453
Huh? TBA isn't grunge, it's a diluted version of their 80s sound with stadium rock production.

>>74871296
They were good as Karas Flowers and Songs About Jane was a good album but after record lables saw what they could be, they were done for.

>>74871461
Arguing over TBA has been done to death and there's no reason to rehash those arguments.

I will however say that TBA has absolutely great mixing considering how lousy metal albums tend to sound.

>almost 70 posts
>nobody's mentioned Liz Phair

Van Halen post-1984.

>>74871552
Naw, they didn't sell out, they just ran out of ideas (and DLR). 1984 was their big commercial breakout but the album still has balls-busting heavy rock on the non-single tracks.

>>74871410
Oh, and the awful mixes that went with the BITUSA 12" singles. This was more than "the record company just doing their job", particularly for an artist who has always had a lot to say about artistic freedom/integrity.

U2, later career Santana, and Paul McCartney trying so lamely to look hip and do collabs with Kanye on "New".

>>74870196
Uggh. Aerosmith should have just ended with the 70s.

Neil Young when he did Harvest Moon.

>>74871523
That's an example of trying to sell out and failing at it.

>hire Avril Lavigne's producers
>do an album cover that would embarrass Hugh Hefner
>lose her alternative fanbase
>and didn't convert any AL fans

https://youtu.be/ah4r1IDfqgc

>>74871642
To be fair, this was not entirely her fault. Matador Records was bought out by Capitol who forced her to go in a more commercial direction and rejected a bunch of material she'd recorded.

The Offspring sold out twice, the first was on Smash where they became significantly poppier and upbeat (but it worked), and second time was on "Rise And Fall, Rage And Grace" where they inexplicably became all serious and pandered to the alt-rock/emo scene.

Having listened to all their stuff I think Green Day were always a pop band but it's interesting, prior to Dookie they obviously had some underground punk cred because they were lambasted for signing to a major label, and prior to American Idiot, all the skate kids thought they were 'their band', but as soon as 'Boulevard Of Broken Dreams' came out, that was it, the emo kids could have them.

Linkin Park also pandered to the alt-rock/emo scene with Minutes To Midnight, but precisely because of their soppiness, I quite like "Leave Out All The Rest" and "Shadow Of The Day". I just couldn't handle them at the time because I was this edgy metalfag and they were making wimpy pop music.

I would single out Bon Jovi. I remember hearing them admit to around the time of the New Jersey album playing songs for fans before deciding to put them out to make sure they were "radio friendly" and potential hits. Kind of like a focus group. Not exactly my idea of creativity and integrity.

>Muse
>Mastodon
>Deadmau5
>Killswitch Engage
>Bassnectar
>Diplo
>The National
>The Decemberists
>The Flaming Lips (Cyrus tour)
>Kayne West
To name some modern acts

>>74871684
Nah, Bon Jovi are like Kiss--they were always in it with the idea of being rock stars.

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Sup.

Cheap Trick like a lot of 70s bands had a late 80s revival by going full-out MTV pop rock. Unlike Aerosmith, they only pulled it off for one album (Lap of Luxury) and the followup (Busted) bombed completely and ended their career as a viable commercial music act.

>>74871720
Definitely not as hard as others, and they made it work in Japan so all to them.

>>74870998
Ridiculous. Rush were always a band to wear their influences on their sleeves, and incorporate their influences in their songs. In the 80's, they were listening to The Police, U2, a ton of post-new wave bands, etc. Those influences come out in the production of Rush's 80's albums, but the songwriting sensibilities were always pure Rush. Power Windows remains one of their best efforts, and Signals has probably been on of their best-aging albums.

In fact, I'd call Rush the opposite of a sell-out. Moving Pictures II would surely have been another multi-platinum effort, and yet the band purposely took a left turn into territory that shed many of the fans they gained from 1979-81. How is that a sell-out?

Mindless Self Indulgence.
I mean, they were never great or anything but they sold out hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BugbuhqQ7pA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxhB_d1uYhw

How about Bob Dylan plugging IBM, Cadillacs, and women's lingerie?

Nirvana and In Flames, and pretty much any 90's rock/metal band

REO Speedwagon went from being a Midwestern country rock act to the worst corporate rock sludge.

Is it possible for an electronic band to sell out?

>>74870196
I'd give Aerosmith a pass because they hadn't been relevant in a decade when Permanent Vacation came out, were broke, and almost dead from drug addiction. They didn't have a lot of choice unlike REO Speedwagon or Metallica who made the deliberate decision to sell out for money.

>>74871778
nope, electronic music is intrinsically sold out

>>74871361
Oh, and you forgot her later post-music career selling schlocky paintings of white rabbits and Jimi Hendrix.

>>74871803
>Entire music genre is sold out
You need to listen deeper you pleb

T. Rex. Man, that was a huge fall from psychedelic folk pop to bubblegum pop rock for 11 year olds.

Remember when Within Temptation ripped off "Bring Me To Life"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEgXDhiayz4

>>74871818
One word to explain that.
>Gay

>>74871808
>implying mass appeal blip bloops thump thump wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuub and hipster dishwasher sounds don't exist for the sake of making money just like all modern "art"

>>74871818
glam rock t rex is better anyway

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>>74871778

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Skillet.
Went from an innocuous 90s Christian post-grunge act, to industrial funk, to straight up buttrock that are so obsessed with appealing to the masses they don't even namedrop Jesus or God anymore.
Not that I care about the integrity of a fucking Christian band but it's pretty sad. Their super early stuff honestly wasn't bad, compared to the embarrassing shit they make now.

>>74871827
You sound like a toddler
>>74871835
Very much so but earlier than this

You have artists who do one thing and stubbornly stick with it their entire career (AC/DC), bands who started out alternative and sold out (Maroon 5), and bands who changed their sound so completely they were in practice two completely different groups (Fleetwood Mac).

And of course there's the neverending feud between Mick Jagger and Keith Richards because the former wants to always ride the latest pop/dance/club trends and the latter merely wants to play country rock, but that's a topic for another thread.

>>74871609

Pump (1989) is still a very solid album, better than their late '70s stuff. They should have disbanded after that.

>>74871835
I remember when You R So Fucked came out and literally smashing my keyboard

>>74871803

Nope, classical music is intrinsically sold out. See how dumb you sound

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>>74870857
come on Monotheist was fantastic, makes up for Cold Lake

>>74870857
>There is only one answer. From Anarcho Crust Punk to...something.
Chumbawamba?

>>74871845
>industrial funk
How is that a thing, I need to know

>>74871852
AC/DC somewhat changed their sound after Bon Scott passed though, and a lot of 60's-70's rock bands had drastic style shifts because they had revolving doors and could change 3/4 of their lineups every albums/couple of albums

>>74870088
JA and 80s Starship are really two completely different bands with different members, Grace Slick being the only constant.

>>74871861
classical is not a genre

>>74871867
Skindred?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WsQhuxPsSjE

Kate Bush when she did Frutopia commercials.

>>74871884
this is shit

>>74870857
Thing is though, the album isn't that bad musically speaking IMHO, and the metallic sound isn't a million miles from the direction they were going in on the preceding EPs. But the vocals...oy, those vocals. If Cal had stuck with a more gravelly shouty style they might've pulled it off.

>>74871668

the worst they have done in terms of selling out was Americana, especially the single "Pretty Fly for a White Guy".

>>74871865
I was actually going mention them or the Goo Goo Dolls but chose Smash Mouth instead.

>>74871884
This sounds more like Rastafarian metal

>>74870829
I was 13-14 at the time so I only knew the Eliminator-era ZZ Top, but listening to their 70s stuff, yeah I can understand why their older fans would have thought they sold out.

>>74871895
Yes, and?
I'm not the anon who likes Skillet, I just assumed this is Industrial Funk.

>>74870857
My cousin saw them on that tour...he said the punks' reaction to the new material was priceless.

>>74871110
Gotta admit though, It Ain't Over till It's over is a great Marvin Gay/Earth, Wind and Fire inspired soul song

Wish he kept that route

>>74871668
>Green Gay being in their 30s and wearing black eyeliner while pretending to be emo 15 year olds

>>74871778

I can't think of anyone specifically right now (Paul Oakenfold? Diplo?), but technically yes.
Imagine Autechre putting out radio-friendly EDM all of a sudden.

>>74871110
That cover of American Woman is one of the worst things I've ever heard.

>>74871684
One thing I notice when hearing Bon Jovi all the way back is how they engineer everything to be as stadium rock as possible, include passages that seem designed for the crowd to sing along the chorus

THey can't sell out, because being commercial pop stars was always their goal

>>74871867

Some of the tracks on Pretty Hate Machine were not that far from that.

in flames
everything after clayman

>>74870439
Fire of Unknown Origin is their 3rd best album, it's great.

>>74871700
Explain how The National sold out cause i don't see it

High Violet is fantastic, and constantly consistant while keeping true to form

Trouble Will Find Me is great as well, and had a darker tone that didn't really appeal to the mainstream

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>>74871818
Electric Warrior [Reprise, 1972]

Back when he was an acoustic warrior who spelled out his band's name in full, Marc Bolan was considered "progressive", meaning that he was as foolish as Donovan but not as famous. A freak hit turned him into a singer of rhythmic fairy tales for British pre-pubes, exactly what he was always suited for, and the great "Bang a Gong" explores the whole rock mythos, which has its limits but sure beats unicorns. Now if he could only recycle a few more pop readymades, I'd stop complaining about fey. B

Bee Gees. They went from their late 1960s work, to calculated disco hits.

>>74871915
>>74871911

>>74871623
I don't like it much, myself. I think at the time he did it he went back to the Harvest well to get an income boost. He's allowed though, after all he puts out more original music in different styles than pretty much anybody.

Coldplay had a certain vision in their early days, and then they became the most safe, commercial """rock""""""""" band of modern days

Same could be said about Imagine Dragons, altough in my opinion they were always safe pop rock trash

>>74871897
>Americana
>sellout album
you sure about that?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xPP9Vuwvvdk

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John Lydon once did a commercial for a british butter brand:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mSE-Iy_tFY

>>74871998
Neil had already kind of done that with Comes a Time. Harvest Moon wasn't done for moneymaking reasons. He blew out his hearing recording and touring Ragged Glory so he switched to acoustic-only for a couple of years. Personally I love Harvest Moon and consider it a very quiet, reflective album.

>>74872005
>Televised

Jimmy Buffet (sold out to Parrothead lounge fans)

Hank Williams Jr. (some great stuff in the 70s, after that he became buttcountry for NASCAR fans)

Renaissance - Camera Camera
Gentle Giant - Giant For A Day
Genesis - Abacab
Yes - 90125
Blondie - Autoamerican

REM - New Adventures In Hi-Fi ($80 million from WB spelled sellout)
ZZ Top - Rhythmeen ($35 million from RCA didn't help sales)
Green Day - Nimrod (suing Lookout for back royalties didn't help them win back the indie rock/DIY crowd who looked at them like rich rock stars)

>>74871735
Don't agree. 80s Rush are definitely a notch slicker and more commercial than they were on those first couple of 70s records.

>>74871700
>The National
They get famous only due to hipsters in a tv series production team. How is that selling out?

Bob Seger licensing Like a Rock for Chevy truck commercials, John Mellencamp did same with Our Country.

Let's Dance was the first album David Bowie made that he didn't have to give 50% of his income to Tony DeFries. It wasn't a sell out per se, but it was a calculated move to make him a ton of cash without having to give any away.

>>74872005
>0:14
Holy shit is that Yahtzee on the left?

>>74872004

a pseudo-experimental track in an album full of poppier songs doesn't change things

>>74871110
that makes no sense as his 2nd album was huge. the paycheck got that slim after the first album? to me his 2nd album established the blueprint for the sound of the rest of his career

150 posts in and no mention of Genesis? Is Invisible Touch so forgettable people forgot what a sell out it was? hahaha

>>74872050
Bowie dabbed a lot on mainstream sensibilities but I don't think he ever outright sold out

>>74872067
several people mentioned Genesis. Do Ctrl+f next time before embarrassing yourself

>>74870570
I don't think it was ever possible for Mariah Carey to sell out by definition.

for me, it's the Kings of Leon. that first album is some quality dirty rock and roll. the second album has its moments. then, they spent a tour opening for U2 and started making what they perceived as stadium rock. everything since has been unlistenable to my ears, but i guess they got what they wanted.

>>74871700
>>Mastodon
People like to compare them to Metallica, but they haven't come remotely close to Load/ReLoad levels of selling out yet. OMRTS and Emperor of Sands were much better than The Hunter, even though they don't live up to the first 4 albums.

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>>74872083
>>74872067
Genesis died once Peter Gabriel left. The first album without him was okay, after that they turned into blatant commercial garbage. Phil Collins then went on to become the ultimate corporate whore and sellout.

As a connoisseur of mid-90s metal I have to say Incubus. Went from sounding like Mr Bungle...to sounding like Jack Johnson within the space of a couple of years. I'll never forgive them for that.

Off the top of my head, The Who strikes me as a group with no integrity. They're one of the most popular, richest bands of all time, yet I still frequently hear their songs in advertisements. Even though they have all of that wealth, they still shill their songs out to corporate bidders. The "art" is purely commerce to them.

>>74872133
wouldn't you want to stay relevant and expose yourself to a new audience?

>>74872133
Pete Townshend actually licensed Who songs for a US Air Force commercial during the height of the Vietnam War. So he's nothing if consistent.

People who shit on TBA apparently have never heard anything on it except Enter Sandman. I mean, the album doesn't exactly sound like Poison and they were doing similar songs as far back as RTL.

>>74872104
>Genesis died once Peter Gabriel left. The first album without him was okay, after that they turned into blatant commercial garbage.

they made 2 good albums after Gabriel left: A Trick of the Tail + Wind and Wuthering

>Phil Collins then went on to become the ultimate corporate whore and sellout.

still a better songwriter than Noel

>>74872116

this

>>74871065
I personally think he peaked with Scott 3 and Nite Flights, but parts of Climate of Hunter, Tilt, and The Drift are truly beautiful

>>74872150
I've listened to the Black Album a hundred times and Enter Sandman is probably the best song on there. The rest is just fake angst and obnoxiously catchy riffs and vocal lines, which is a huge decline in effort from Metallica's prior albums.

>>74872104
They were good up to 1983.

Wal mart's waif me

>>74870088
Every nu-metal band by the late 00's.
Especially Limp Biz and Korn.

>>74871884
Skindred is Jamaican/Ethnic nuish-metal

>>74871552
This.
Before that they were taking the absolute piss of the industry.

>>74872005
Actually John did very well until recently.
Still taking the piss with this to be honest.

He also supported nationalism too... which is not what other celebrities did.

>>74871895
I liked it. It was fun.

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>>74872230
>tfw you don't want to learn how to play
>tfw you want to play groovy hyped noisy shit
>tfw you play nursery rhymes and shit because it is fun
>tfw you rap and scat and it's fun
>tfw people start to like you and you start to learn your instruments
>tfw your band peaked and you keep playing and writing
rip Korn

>>74872265
First two albums were awesome.
Next two began the sell out phase.

>>74870088
Did KiSS have anything to sell out?

Judas Priest with the Turbo album

>>74872275

The debut is a masterpiece of the genre (they basically invented it).
The next 4 albums are all inferior, but still kinda good.
Everything went to shit after Untouchables.

>>74870196
>>74871793
Without this (and really the Run DMC collab) they would have ended up at the county fair circuit with Foghat and Kansas.

>>74872333
At least Kansas is actually good

>>74872333
Too bad really because post-1985 Aerosmith is vomit-inducing.

>using professional songwriters
>cookie-cutter power ballads that all have some combination of "Amazing" or "Crazy" in the title
>I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing
>Steven Tyler being an American Idol judge
>used a hot and upcoming Alicia Silverstone to sell Get A Grip

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>>74872343
>At least Kansas is actually good

>>74872315
They made up for it with Painkiller, though.

It's funny how becoming a caricature of yourself is OK in metal because the genre loves to indulge in its own ridiculousness so much.

>>74870935
Oh come on.

The Game was the sell out album, Hot Space an interesting and quite bold follow up.

The Game was a hit laden, especially in the UK, album with perfect pop, rock and disco tracks. Hot Space had less than perfect tracks heavily weighted towards a sound already passe for most of their fan base.

>>74872358
Kansas may not be great, but they were apparently good enough for Aerosmith to steal one of their riffs on Bone to Bone (Coney Island Whitefish Boy).

>>74870621
Much as I love Rod's music I have to question the orthodox view that he sold out in 78 with DYTIS and the accompanying album.

I'd say the sellout was circa 73 on release of his appalling, but commercial, version of Oh No Not My Baby - a clear walk away from the consistently high quality releases of the previous four years.

The relative failure of 74's Smiler was followed by numerous successful attempts to regain, grow and solidify popularity, DYTIS being the pinnacle.

>>74872364
>>74870935
By the way, AOBTD wasn't originally intended to be a single at all, but Michael Jackson told them it would be a killer club tune. Play the Game and Save Me are quite similar to their past works. And I don't think Crazy Little Thing Called Love was much different from some of the other experimentations with different genres that they had done in the past. To me, Hot Space was much more geared towards getting mainstream play, even though the trend had passed.

>>74872358
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ld3prHzbdY

>>74872142
The only Who songs I've heard on commercials were Who Are You and Eminence Front.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL_WvOly7mY

Duh?

>>74872403
There was a Nissan commercial in the late 90s that used Bargain. I remember it.

>>74872413
Is it bad if I never liked Weezer?

Has anyone mentioned Barenaked Ladies yet?

When Kevin Hearn joined the band and released "Stunt," they changed their sound playing electric pop. It was okay but it wasn't BNL.
In the process they lost the audience that followed them since Gordon, and (lead singer and soul of the band) Steven Page.

>>74872403
I'm sure I've heard Baba O'Riley somewhere but I don't remember where.

>>74871110
I don't think anyone ever claimed Lenny Kravitz to be original. Back in the 90s, music magazines used to laugh at him for trying a little too hard to look like various 60s rock stars.

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>>74871700
>The Flaming Lips (Cyrus tour)
>then Oczy Mlody
>and now a mac demarco collab
will they ever be good again?

>>74872448
Wait a minute, why is it bad when Lenny Kravitz tried to ape Jimi Hendrix but nobody says anything when Childish Gambino also apes his main influences?

Michael Bolton was a hard rock singer in the mold of Lou Gramm. Then, he did a cover of "(Sittin' On) The Dock Of The Bay". Since then...

The Tubes - dialed down their cabaret image and throw-everything-at-the-wall pop sound to a mundane AM radio blandness after getting punted from A&M and signing to Capitol.
Cheap Trick - have admitted to being led around by the nose by Epic in pursuit of hits during the 80s.

>>74872195
>>74872150
Thrash metal was done by 1991, the shit had been mined to exhaustion and there was no further place to take it. Besides, like you said, TBA isn't exactly Def Leppard or Poison.

Green Day

Going from punk to acoustic ballads to wearing eyeliner to becoming millionaires to doing a Broadway show to suing the little indie label that signed them 20 years earlier when they were a punk band putting Lookout out of business, that is so punk rock......not! Maximum Rock & Roll crucified them for that.

Liz Phair. Her S/T was just totally embarrassing. Hired songwriters, pitch-shifted vocals, and a late 30s single mom trying to act like she was 17. She even admitted she did it only for money and it ended up losing all of her existing fanbase.

>>74872519
What's wrong with getting back royalties you were owed? The founder of Lookout even admitted that they dug their own grave.

Brian May and Roger Taylor who have the nerve to call themselves Queen or Queen+ (when it clearly should be Queen-) whatever... After two unsuccessful attempts at a solo career (coming to a halt with 1998's "Antother World" and "Electric Fire") they saw there's no profit in try and carve out a solo career after all. Writing hits all over again, why? when you still have "We Will Rock You" etc.

So instead of wallowing in depression, Brian grabbed his Red Special and Roger, instead of wasting his breath on political commentary - wrote "Queen" on his bass drum...And Together they sold out! Hat off to John Deacon for missing out on slipping into mediocrity,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZBmhEMFdl0

Way way back at the very beginning of their career when they were a blues cover band, this little gem happened.

>>74872503
Compared to Slayer? A band which never evolved? I like Slayer and own several albums, but they're a one-trick pony... Say what you will about where they went, but the other three of the Big Four evolved. Slayer just kept doing the same thing over and over.

RHCP from Californication onward. I guess really as far back as Under the Bridge.

>>74870395
one of the most disgraceful sellouts ever

>>74872045
Not fair at all. Bob Seger is from Detroit and he licensed the song because he wanted to help out auto workers.

>>74872618
Or the other thing is that they always talk about how great Hillel Slovak was and they miss him so much, but they won't play any pre-BSSM stuff live.

I think one of the biggest sellouts was Grand Funk Railroad. They went from a heavy rock band to playing The Locomotion. No wonder they were hated so much back then.

ZZ Top is another.

>>74871827
>Only one genre of electronic music exists: The post
I also hope you're not an adult, especially with that writing.

The Weeknd. Can't blame him though. RnB is dead and no one listens to PBRnB except for nerds.

>>74872647
>I think one of the biggest sellouts was Grand Funk Railroad. They went from a heavy rock band to playing The Locomotion. No wonder they were hated so much back then.

Grand Funk couldn't win either way.

>1969-72
>get shit on by critics

>1973-
>get more commercial and poppy, cover The Loco-Motion
>ok now Christgau is giving you positive reviews but your fans want to kill you

>>74872005
He also invested all of the money he gained from that into another PiL album. It's a shame Wobble and Levene aren't in the band anymore, because he still has it, but he's not with the right people.

>>74872331
2nd album is underrated.
It's fucked up on a child molestation level.

>>74872141
>wouldn't you want to stay relevant and expose yourself to a new audience?
There are more respectful ways of doing that.

>No one mentions Chris Cornell in these threads any more since he sold out so bad he killed himself over it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pcWbnQDMD0

Didn't Black Sabbath appear on CSI or something?

>>74870785
She's disowned that album anyway.

>>74872660

His music was never underground to begin with. It was always normie. Just normie-hipster instead of regular normie. All he has done is change over to a different normie crowd. His music wasn't even "deep" before the change either. He was singing about the exact same shit, only with a less radio-friendly song structure.

>>74872588
"The Rolling Stones aren't a rock band, they're a corporation."

-- Johnny Rotten

>>74872090
I don't think their sound changed very much IMO, they just got popular.

>>74872195
>and Enter Sandman is probably the best song on there
That's not Sad But True.

>>74872711
Johnny said a lot of things that most media won't even mention.
He suggested that many celebrities were pedos before they were finally caught out.

Some fly low, but Johnny let loose on them.

The Replacements after Bob Stinson left/was kicked out.

https://youtu.be/SAq9IjoYQtc

To

https://youtu.be/uac_KQn9Q-M

>>74870395
This motherfucker had gotten tons of people killed with his music.

Squarepusher

>>74871778
Moby
ELO
Disclosure
LCD Soundsystem

>>74870907
I can't see how this is worse than them censoring their lyrics to get on Ed Sullivan.

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>ctrl+f
>faust
>nothing
I am pleasantly surprised

>>74870935
Yeah but Innuendo was an amazing comeback so yeah

>>74870857
I actually don't know if this was a sell-out. Cal's always said that he sang like that on that one because he'd recently come to reappreciate Led Zeppelin and wanted to incoporate more of that in the sound. If it was a sell-out it was a bloody awful job at it being as it alienated their old crowd and didn't bring them a new one.

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>>74872697
Roger Daltrey did as a black woman

>>74873709
maybe he's a black woman that wears a leatherface brit

>>74870159
Pete has admitted to being a sellout. He's not trying to hide anything other than kiddie porn.

>>74872444
Probably from CSI (Every spinoff uses a Who song for the intro).

Three-6 Mafia

>>74871700
>Muse
Came here to post this.
They didn't take very much to do that also...
Fucking moneywhores

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>>74871361
based grace

she looks like an angry old chain-smoking lady that teaching sunday school now

>>74871778
Hundred Waters
Portico Quartet

>>74872878
I was going to mention this.

>ctrl + f daft punk
>0 results

hmm...

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I say the Smiths only because of the constant reissues holy shit

>>74871835
this shit sounds so bad.