NEW GODSPEED

Hated it

>>74857143
>Implying I pay for music

>pre-order

>>74857143

Fuuuuuck I'm excited. Great taste of what's to come.

>>74857159
>>74857173
>>74857196
A little pre-school shitposting at the bus stop this morning, eh?

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>>74857173
what did he mean by this?

DUDE STARTS OFF SLOW BUT ENDS WITH A CRESCENDO LMAO

>>74858060
DUDE I'M A RETARD LMAO

>>74858060
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

God damn they are cringey

>>74858060
>so butthurt he had to post it in two threads

that album description is a college freshman tier cringe fiesta

>>74858109
>>74858094
>>74858074
you're being ripped off. its the same fucking thing every year with these faggots. they were good for two albums

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>>74858131

when will they stop experimenting with american evangelist gospel hymn?
this new opening track is literally light inside light

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>>74857143
It's nice. I enjoyed the track, thanks for posting anon

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oh damn, I didn't know soros was funding this

it's a masterpiece

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Why does /mu/ hate Godspeed now?

>>74858392
>why can't a board that thinks Taylor Swift and Kendrick are the pinnacle of music appreciate GY!BE

hmm I dunno

>>74858392
Newfags only just learned that Godspeed are radical leftists.

>>74858392
no mu just hates the new godspeed which is a watered down soulless version of their best material

Jesus fucking christ this is shit.

>>74858405
kendrick and GYBE are both god-tier in their respective genres, pleb.

>>74858414
and this, this is fucking hilarious to me.

it's almost as if they listened to The Dead Flag Blues and had no idea what they opening monologue was about.

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Godspeed You! Black Emperor had some great stuff in their prime. But like all radical leftist musicians who end up having a kid because they think it's "beautiful" and "soul inspiring", they realize that the real world doesn't give a fuck about how passionate they are about their art. They also realize that their kid is no longer a play thing for inspiration but an actual human being. In realizing this, they 'grow up' by throwing their 'integrity' out the window to reuse the same formula in order to get as much money as possible to feed their child. I'm not saying it's bad that they're charging money for this second rate garbage but I think there's a lesson to be learned here. If you are a 'radical leftist' who believes in 'le art' and 'le beauty' don't have a fucking kid if you and your bandmates are homeless drifters who make 50 minute drone tracks for a living. Clean yourselves up, this isn't the late 60s anymore.

>>74857143
LOOK AT THAT FUCKING SKYLINE!

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>accepting the borders of havibg to pay money to listen to music

Naw, I'll respect their beliefs and just pirate it.

>>74858500
you can if you want. it's not like they are against it

>>74858521
Exactly

>>74858354
seriously how can such good musicians make amazing music and at the same time write stupid shit like this? I can barely read it, it fucking hurts to look at. You'd think that good artists would be at least somewhat intelligent, but just like with most good authors, when you find out the majority are commie, you realize they're really only very creative and talented but not much more than that.

>>74858569
What's wrong with it? It's inspired by the Grenfell fire in England.

>>74858354
jesus christ this looks like it was written by an angsty 16 year old i'm cringing so hard

>>74857143
it gets really good by the end.

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>>74858354
Jesus...

>>74858479
/thread

>>74858569
Lol, what's your favorite ideology, smarty pants. Does it start with a big capital L and ends with "I suck copious amounts of dong to satiate my cravings"?

Aoty confirmed

So much about this border bullshit they're going for. These fags didn't even had a concert outside the big capital ever. All of their shitty shows are in America, France, UK, Switzerland etc.

>>74858824
This "clever" post literally hurts to read and I'm not even the dude you're responding to

Ehhhhh itll probably be better than their last but worse than ADBA. Track doesnt really give us much to work with.

>>74858824
>what's your favorite ideology
Are you like actually retarded?

>>74858824
What's your favorite way to fuck off from this board?
I don't even know why this post offended me so much

>>74858977
I mean, you're right. The intellectually honest post discarding an entire academic and historic field because he's got the red scare carved in his DNA is the bee's knees.

>>74857143
Not even close to as good as the 6-10-17 Belgium version. A pale shadow of that performance. Disappointed. I hope it grows on me.

>>74859004
>>74858988
Hmmmmmm, what's you guys' favorite word? Triggered much, eh hombres?

>>74859040
Honestly it was his retarded way of saying things that triggered me, I don't really care about the ideological discussion beforehand

Literal reminder that this is the intro to the album and one of the "short" tracks as made evident by the track listing on OP's link. Think of the 2 drone interludes they threw on the 7" with 'Allelujah and how forgettable they were: this takes the place of one of them. Album is going to deliver. Get over the tryhard writeups and enjoy the music in 3 weeks.

>>74859059
Valid point, not much to disagree over.

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>>74858479
This man looks very smelly.

>>74858479
Jesus christ how crazy are you?

this is actually good
fuck the haters

it's really similar to Asunder tho'
like is it the same riff?

>>74858354
I see nothing wrong with any of this. Maybe try not being an edgelord? Or have you already sold your soul for the sake of "muh culture"?

>>74859062
Actually it's one of the longest tracks on the album

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferian_Towers

it's a shame that Mt. Zion aesthetic creeped on and infected gybe

>>74858479
The bums lose, Mr Lebowski! THE BUMS ALWAYS LOSE!

>>74858824
>having "idealogies"

Lmao at your life.

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>>74858392
Too many mad /pol/yps on this board who are buttflustered that GY!BE is left-anarchist and not some cuck ideology like anarcho-capitalist or Neo-Nazi.

>>74859483
actual /pol/ here, anyone who can't separate art and politics is the truest cuck of them all

besides, at least they're not tankies

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>>74857143

>>74857143
>bosses hang
LMAO

>>74859282
>an end to borders

So why doesn't Efrim tear down the walls of his house?

>>74858354
Why would a social liberal billionaire fund a radical anarchist collective who would deny his right to own private capital?
What is with you retards, can you not see that Soros has no interest in advancing the cause of the far left?

>>74859483
>Left anarchist
>believing in state inforced "inalienable human rights" such as healthcare and access to food and water.
Either you pegged their ideology wrong or they have some retarded self defeating views.

>>74859665
nah you're fucking dumb dude
not saying that he actually is doing that but if you cant see why an investor who is notorious for taking advantage of economic crises would fund an economic crises yr just in denial at this point

nobody actually believes anarchists will ever get their way in any capacity, it's a child's ideology outside of kaczynski-style anarcho-primitive terror cults. they definitely cause unrest which any clever investor can capitalize on which is the point

gulag yourself

>>74859300
Yeah but those broken up part tracks are all the same song

>>74859611
Now you know the answer to that already and you're just pretending you don't because you're playing stupid, but I'll humour you. They want an end to national borders between nation states, and presumably an end to nation states as a social construct. That doesn't mean they want an end to physical borders such as the walls of houses.
>>74859679
A non-state collective of people could provide healthcare, food and water.
>>74859713
>what is Rojava
>what is Republican Spain
get fucked friendo

>>74859665
Have you ever heard of a useful idiot?

til r/kekstani is fuckin based bros

>>74859762
So explain to me how the far left are somehow useful to Soros.

>>74859741
. . .

>>74859741
Lmao they said it was a basic human right meaning that every person will have access to it and as anarchism implies everyone would have complete freedom of association due to human nature people would abuse and eventually throw out that system. Once again people should stop being fucking idealists because that's how every mass murder enforced by a state has occurred.

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>>74859775
Gee, I wonder. It's almost as if they fight the groups he opposes most in the streets so he doesn't have to.

>>74859790
>t3_6wrttm.jpg
go back there

>SENPAI/FAMINE
Jesus Christ. Sounds like an XXXTentacion title.

>>74857143
Hahahahaha, there are actual anarchists on /mu/? This place really is underage central isn't it?

>>74859812
not an argument candyass

>>74859790
Okay, so that's a potential motive, albeit a rather unconvincing one seeing as he could just as easily donate to any one of a number of anti far right extremism charities and NGOs that share his liberal world-view. Now do you have any evidence that he's funding the far left?

>>74859862
>"not an argument"
>implying that >>74859790 is an argument
You need to go to argument school and learn something about formal argument structures or something buddy.

reminder that arguing on the internet is huxley's soma

>>74859788
not true, look up the taiping "rebellion" (civil war / total war / genocide)

manchu genocided the chinese who converted to a wacky off-brand christian ethnostate to the tune of 20-100 million to stop them from rebelling

had nothing to do with ideology unless you consider "remain in power" an ideology

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>>74859893
Not that anon but Jesus Christ what are you doing? You told him to leave, while he told you that Soros supports Antifa like groups silencing alt right people who dislike rich Jews.

>>74859910
He was a Satanist. Hong Xiuquan was the begotten son of God and nobody born after the fall of the Heavenly Kingdom has any hope for salvation.

>>74859741
>They want an end to national borders between nation states, and presumably an end to nation states as a social construct. That doesn't mean they want an end to physical borders such as the walls of houses.
>Barrier I like is good
>Barrier I dislike is bad

woooow, really activated my almonds

>>74859910
They killed the Chinese because their ideology (Religious ethnostate is one) was in their view incompatible and unable to coexist near their own nation. Plus I'm sure they used propaganda portraying them as culture traitors in order to stir up the people. If they had been Buddhist (an ideology) would they have been killed?

>>74859921
That was another anon, not I. That said, there's nothing wrong with responding to a non-argument like >>74859790 with a non-argument like >>74859812.
>>74859978
>chocolate is good, cyanide is bad
>substance I like is good
>substance I dislike is bad
woooow false equivalences are a great ""argument""

>>74859954
>fail civil service exam four times, turning your entire life up to that point into a complete joke
>fall into depression
>read an old bible laying around your house
>suddenly have a vision that Jesus is your big bro and therefore you are entitled to a position of power by birth instead of hard work

BRAVO

reminder that only nu-male sjws get angry and cry on social media when a band disagrees with them

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>>74859978

>>74860007
Poor little brainlet.

Consumption of chocolate and cyanide has different purposes; one is for pleasure, the other for death.

Borders and walls have the same purpose; keeping out the unwanted.


Try again

>>74860003
you're being stupid, they weren't killed for being christian, they were killed for rebelling and capturing cities / raising armies

don't skim a wiki article and project your views onto it

>>74860039
>Borders and walls have the same purpose; keeping out the unwanted.
You're persisting with this moronic argument? Well okay then, It makes it very easy to argue against you.
Walls have multiple functions, insulation, shelter, and yes as a physical barrier to keep people/animals in/out.
National borders do not have the function of insulation or shelter. National borders might function as physical barriers to prevent/limit the flow of people, although not (rarely) animals. The two are clearly not equivalent from this alone, but as an additional illustration of this wars are caused by disputes over national borders, whilst walls provide shelter and comfort to people.

>>74860117
If the comparison triggers your literal autism that hard, consider this: instead of tearing down his walls, giving copies of his keys to everyone.

>>74859300
I stand by my initial post. As it's been pointed out, the album is actually really 4 songs split up into various tracks. The meat and potatoes of the album are the ones divided into 3 pieces. And they're phenomenal live.

>>74860146
I have no idea what you mean by that. Rather than talking in tenuous metaphors why don't you just talk about national borders?

>>74859450
Believing oneself to be free of ideology is an ideology, numbnuts

>>74860183
My point is, if you tear down borders you allow the free flow of people, with no control of who or what gets in or out.

The same is true of giving your front door key to everyone.

>>74860218
These analogies are just cretinous. Clearly you want to imply that the problems associated with giving everyone the keys to your house (being robbed, having squatters move in etc) the the same problems associated with allowing anyone into a county. But a nation state isn't your house and has some pretty big differences to your house.

>dude anarchy lmao
>pre order now $9 or more
:thinking:

>>74860275
What's the difference?

>unwanted people can get in your house (squatters, thieves)
>unwanted people can get in your country (terrorists, traffickers)

>>74860318
>inb4 b-b-but land is a human right

>>74857143
niBBa we've been knew.

>>74858354
>end to borders
>free healthcare
fuck me... this is some thought provoking stuff

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>>74858354
Dear God that was tough to read.

Honestly I like the aesthetic they're TRYING to achieve but this comes off as just so contrived and pretentious. Lol at libshit retards.

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I like it.

>>74859679
Was just about to post this desu senpai

>>74860796
>contrived and pretentious.
what the fuck? it's literally the opposite of that

>>74860823
>le dark and edgy imagery to stilt up serious subject matter that we can't convey otherwise

The part about the buildings is good though; I myself think about that all the time.

>>74859665
i think i have a concussion

>>74858414
Literally just this

>bland and predictable soundscape
>not one memorable/exciting phrase (inb4 drone is an acceptable style)
looks like someone's pulling a Swans reunion

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Discussion about politics on a music board, oh boy this is gonna go great!

This is actually pretty good.

>>74861115
Ikr I'm not giving this political shitshow of an argument any attention (well aside from this post)

STOP FUCKING TALKING POLITICS

you mother make music sound bad you fucking cucks always veiwing music in your own selfish viewpoints and shit. motha fucka yall niggas like jime hidricks and that motha fucking egg plant is a hippy fuck. but he plays good gigter

good music means good

opinion = bad

>tfw gy!be will never make something as good as Slow Riot again
fuck

>>74861214
spoken like a true mongoloid

What the hell happened to this board?
You retards used to be able to talk about GY!BE without crying about their politics. Now GY!BE threads are invested with /pol/tards mad that they're not singing Trump's praises.

Did you retards ever look in the sleeves of any of their fucking records? Have you ever listened to the spoken word parts? They've always been far left.

Did you really think the band that made "Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada" were neo-nazis? Fuck this shitty under aged board.

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>>74861086
/pol/ have been desperately trying to take over this board, but are failing miserably and are getting their dicks knocked into the dirt by the mods.

>>74860796
oh look it's another high school graduate and noted retail worker here to tell us why "liberalism" is bad (by calling them retards) while completely misunderstanding what the fuck liberal means

>>74861473
>Did you retards ever look in the sleeves of any of their fucking records?
>implying anyone buys those here
lol

>Have you ever listened to the spoken word parts?
now this is the part that I want to know. how did /pol/cuckies interpret those field recordings? what did AM/PM and murray ostril parts mean for them?

>>74858392
they're /mu/core

>>74860796
>>74861545
>godspeed
>liberal

>>74858354
>complain about "lazy money" and hard labor
>literally make music for a living
>in their ancom paradise they still get to make music while others toil in the fields to get the same benefits
Lol, every single fucking person who argues for communism imagines themselves on top. They still expect to have a cushy job while the proles still work the fields. The only difference is that in our society the proles can buy phones and TVs and a lot of other luxuries.

god i fucking hate /pol/ and its alt-right shitbags. you're equally as cancerous as libtards.

>>74857143
I can't enjoy this music because I'm over 18

>>74859741
>A non-state collective of people could provide healthcare, food and water.
So people voluntarily enter into a contract in which they share what they produce? Sounds like anarcho-capitalism to me. If you use a state or a state-like entity to enforce others to follow your rules then it's not anarchy.

>>74863584
why did you even make this post

>>74863625
To prove to him that anarcho-communism doesn't exist. If people are voluntarily opting into that system, then it's just anarcho-capitalism because there will be a subset of people who will inevitably opt out. Why would I opt in to an ancap society when I'm worth more than the average person? I have an education and a job that's useful and in demand. Why would I settle for the same amount of money as the guy who works at Starbucks?

>>74863682
what money are you even talking about. why are you still posting

>>74863769
>money
The value that I produce then. Surely you would agree that some labor is more valuable than others.

>>74859521
>separating art and politics
art has always been political and art has always been contemporary

>>74858414
This is why. Nu-mu is cancer

>>74863558
>literally just turned 18 last week

I think it's time to raise the age restriction for this board.

>>74858479
>second-rate garbage

Kys

why are americans equating left with liberals? Every leftist there is opposses liberalism as much as all sorts of right wing perversions
and no democrats arent leftist

>>74858354
>Free healthcare for everyone in the world without borders.
Yes i'm sure one world government will go well, what a fucking joke.

>>74858414
I like their music but don't deny that calling for an end to borders and healthcare for everyone on the planet is completely ridiculous.

>>74864168
>"fuck the government"
>"the only way to fix this is to give the government more power"

>>74864077
I'm so much older than most people here that frankly I'm embarrassed to be posting this

>>74860796
Kill all newfags

>>74862466
this

>>74862466
That was my point dingus

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>>74864168
>>74864213

>>74861473
You're right.

But I think it's also worth pointing out that you don't have to agree with GY!BE to enjoy their music. I am not a communist/radical leftist and I enjoy most of GY!BE's albums.

The fact that every time anyone makes a post about GY!BE people start freaking out about politics shows how relevant and important this band still is

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>anyone I don't like is from /pol/

>>74858479
...I hope for your sake this is pasta my dude

>>74858479
Anon, this is /mu/. You simply cannot argue a case for integrity and maturity here. They're just not going to listen because all lefties operate on emotion first and logic last.

Let's see one of you fags refute anything he said.

>>74861569
>AM/PM
Yeah we get it, corporations dehumanize the unfortunate, what a novel idea

>murray ostril

Literally what is political here other than some old fart being nostalgic?

>>74864598
>Literally what is political here other than some old fart being nostalgic?
Are you retarded?

>>74864345
>aren't leftys the worst? hahaha, dumb liberal cuck cultural marxists trump 2020
>how could you suggest that I'm from /pol/???

boring as fuck. godspeed is done.

Am I the only person ITT who liked it and is excited for this album?

>>74864729
Nope. I think most people are really excited but whenever someone posts new music from them it devolves into political arguments, making actual discussion of the album impossible

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>>74858354
>an end to foreign invasions
>an end to borders
Has the left become a complete parody of itself or are they just too stupid to realize what has happened/is currently happening in europe?

>>74858479
100% accurate.

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>>74858354
>in the world without borders
Buddy, get the V2

>>74864950
>le muslims are taking over the world!!!!

>>74858392
GYBE was great before their breakup. All of their post reunion material has been meh at best. Combine that with cringey political shit like >>74858354 and you've got a recipe for disaster.

>>74865027
GYBE have always been radical leftists. Did you ever happen to look at the inserts of Skinny Fists of Yanqui UXO? This "cringey political shit" shouldn't be new to you.

ITT edgy 16 year olds who spend all day posting pepe memes on /pol/ come in to give their expert opinion on left wing politics

>>74865027
If you think that the "cringey political shit" is anything new you are too young to be on this board. And they've released some of their best material post-reunion

Song is pretty good imo, although I understand if anyone doesn't like it for musical reasons. I will say though, fuck everyone who is getting mad at the band's political shit, they've legitimately always been like this and if you're just now finding this out then you should probably leave this board or lurk more because you're new.

Here is the blurb for Yanqui U.X.O. which came out in 2002:

>U.X.O. is unexploded ordnance is landmines is cluster bombs. Yanqui is post-colonial imperialism is international police state is multinational corporate oligarchy. Godspeed You! Black Emperor is complicit is guilty is resisting. The new album is just raw, angry, dissonant, epic instrumental rock. Recorded by Steve Albini at Electrical Audio in Chicago and mixed by Howard Bilerman and Godspeed You! Black Emperor at the original Hotel2Tango in Montreal.

>Stubborn tiny lights vs. clustering darkness forever ok?

They've always been like this. Get over yourselves and listen to someone else if it actually bothers you enough.

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>>74865207
>>74865374
Their first record from 1997.

If you haven't figured out their political stance by now, you're retarded. Every fucking release is full of radical left messages.

Hell, did any of you look at the back cover of Yanqui U.X.O. The online blurb shouldn't tell you anything you don't already know.

>>74864657
No, I'm serious.

>inb4 you pull some pretentious 2deep4u bullshit out of your ass

>>74864988
>le sit still goy while they cut your throat!!!!!!

>>74857143
Go away, noone likes this shit band around here.

>>74858354
This shit is to be expected from people coming from Montreal. College system in here is super liberal.

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There are instructions on how to make a molotov in this album.

>>74864729
Same here. /mu/ is extra cancerous as of late and I seldom bother taking the time to respond to anything. Especially the shit shows that GY!BE threads dissolve into after all the summerfags and /pol/ lords get their memes in. If you have an iota of common sense you'll know that the affiliated blurbs with this album's release are nothing new for Godspeed and their ideologies. If you have half a brain, you can enjoy the music for what it is. And if you have any recollection of their live shows from the last few years, you'll know that this is going to be their best post-reunion album. (Which, no, will not sound like an extension of the music they wrote 20 years ago.) Fuck anyone else who may be interested in derailing this release beyond any of that.

>>74865207
And instead of actually doing anything, they just make music.

>>74858354
This shit reads like a Dr Bronners soap label if Dr Bronner did a bunch of out-house meth.

>>74858392
Because they're even more pretentious now then they ever were before, and the music is watered down like the other anon said

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>mfw just realized GYBE! is the Jaden Smith of Post-Rock

>>74866164
>Post-Rock
you're the jaden smith here

I'm glad we can put our differences behind us and discuss the music of a band that is outspoken about their politics without turning this thread into a political shit-flinging contest.
Oh wait that didn't fucking happen now did it

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>>74866219
yea, who'da thunk that a band with a strong radical left political message would bring in political shit-flinging during a thread about said band.

>>74865648
>pretentious 2deep4u bullshit
Wat. The message couldn't be more simple and direct. It's about a once thriving communal space falling apart because of neglect.

>>74858354
I read this and became disappointed, then I went on this thread to make sure I wasn't the only one.

>>74865859
They donated their Polaris prize money to a music program for prisons in Quebec. Wouldn't be shocked if that wasn't the first time they redirected money they've made to a cause they believe in.

What have you done for your community aside from bitching about people with serious political convictions on a anime image board?

>>74866320
Did you seriously think you were the only right wing edgelord on this site? lmao

>>74866285
Believe it or not GY!BE was once one of the most discussed bands on this site and threads about their albums seldom turned into alt right shit flinging fests.

the track is actually really good

>>74866376
I give money to homeless people whenever I see them. My political convictions don't call for the abolition of the state though, and they certainly don't call for providing free shit to everyone. Why aren't they out there abolishing the state if that's what they believe in so much?

>>74866398
This site? No.

But /mu/, along with some other boards, is overrun with lefties, just like /tv/ and /r9k/ are by the alt right

>>74866398
I'm not right wing, and compared to the rest of 4chan, this board is very left. I just don't like this new globalist left and the fact that communists are co-opting the Liberal identity. It doesn't help that conservatives are happy to give them that label too, when every conservative believes and follows Classical Liberalism since its a long standing tradition in the West

>>74866434
/mu/ is only "overrun by lefties" if your main comparison is fucking /pol/

most outsiders would look at /mu/ as center of right

>>74866416
Thats when their music was so good (or at least not played out yet) that their political message was just an afterthought.

I like it, it's pretty cool. Thanks for sharing OP!

>>74866460
>I just don't like this new globalist left
>communists are co-opting the Liberal identity
Oh look, it's a retard!

>>74866467
>center of right
Nice narrative change.

This is a board where I've had people tell me that it isn't hypocritical that people don't say a peep about the homophobia or sexism in rap because "it's their culture", or had people shill communism at me.

>>74866424
It's nice that you pretend to give money to the poor yet support the system that creates poverty. Even assuming you're not full of shit GY!BE gave away their $30,000 prize to a cause they believed in. How close are you to that number? Remember, you're the one who suggested that the band did absolutely nothing but "create music" as a slight.

So are you just going to admit you were wrong or are we still going to go down this path?

>>74866483
I'm glad we had this talk, its been fun

>>74866480
yeah the song was kinda cool. I'll listen to the new album. It sounds more F# than LYSF so I'm down. I just hope they don't be so on the noes with the politics, especially when the ideas expressed in the description is this shallow. If Trump gets name dropped or referenced even once, I think I'm going to be really upset

>>74866522
this
>>74866467
I think you mean right of centre, but really I think you mean "left of centre" (on average)

>>74866522
Yes, this board has lefties. This board is also infested with the alt right. Most real life communities don't have /pol/tards constantly talking about eugenics and "cultural marxism" every chance they get. Show /mu/ to any normie and let me know if they think this is a left wing haven.

Again, you only think this is a left wing board because you're comparing it to fucking /pol/ and /r9k/. That's pretty much the equivalent of using Hitler as a starting point for right wing politics and saying that everything to the left of Hitler is "far left."

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>>74866532
>yet support the system that creates poverty
Because poverty in communism is unheard of

>>74866591
I was unaware that Stalin was a libertarian. Learn something new everyday!

But I guess GY!BE activism doesn't count because you don't like their politics.

>>74866532
My worldview doesn't involve things like providing free healthcare for everyone. If they did I would donate all my money except for what I needed to live comfortably. My worldview involves everyone working and being entitled to the money they earn. You can allocate those earnings in anyway you wish including charity. I DON'T believe in state-enforced charity. Same shit as the "are you good because you're a good person, or are you good because God will send you to hell?" argument. I don't believe anyone should have the authority to make me spend my money in a certain way. It's mine.

And you can't say, "lol bill gates donates millions and you dont, you must be a shitty person". Duh, I don't fucking have millions.

>>74866588
Make a post disparaging communism or other leftist policies, and see how more people gang up on you on /mu/ than on other boards

>>74866557
"Communists" aren't co-opting any liberal identity. Communists fucking hate liberals. "Globalist left' is a nonsense term from someone who doesn't know what globalism is. If you're not right wing you sure as fuck don't seem to understand what the left is.

>>74866624
>use a smug reaction image
>retard thinks I'm saying Stalin was a libertarian

Was it autism?

>>74866631
So are you going to admit that GY!BE, unlke you suggested, are actually invested in their cause and aren't just "talking about it?"

>>74866662
>uses smug reaction image clearly in reference to GY!BE's political leanings
>uses reaction image of someone who isn't a libertarian
>still has no fucking idea what's going on
not sure if it's autism but there's definitely some retardation in here

>>74866636
And make a post about how women are good musicians or how black lives matter effects hip hop music or some thread about a trans musician and let me know how that thread turns out.

Now show that to your real life lefty friends (implying) and let me know how left leaning they think this board is.

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>>74866698
>uses smug reaction image clearly in reference to GY!BE's political leanings
Ummmm no sweetie that's all in your mind.

Forgot to take your pills again?

>>74866674
No. They're champagne socialists. They don't know the plight of the working man and they probably come from families of doctors, lawyers, and politicians who supported their lazy asses while they made music. They donated $30,000 but they're still rich hipsters who make money doing a cushy job. Their ideal communism probably involves them making music while underlings-- I mean equals-- provide them with food, furniture, etc. You can't be Rage Against the Machine and be rich. They're a product of the "machine" they're raging against. They still talk shit about the bourgeois despite them becoming what they hated as starving artists.

>>74866739
>brings up communism in a comment chain about GY!BE completely out of the blue
>hurr durr, it had nothing to do with the topic!
Back pedal more kid

>>74866759
literally everything in this post are assumptions

>>74866759
efrim was a bum desu

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>>74866739
>uses a picture of a communist when discussing communism
>HURR ARE YOU RETARDED? WHY WOULD YOU THINK THE IMAGE WOULD BE RELEVANT?
This is some massive fucking retardation.

>>74866759
>GY!BE
>rich
What the fuck are you talking about? Efrim was a highschool drop out who was homeless/on government assistance when he started recording with GYBE.

>>74866772
>completely out of the blue

Forgot the part where the guy said the other guy supports the system that creates poverty? The implication is clearly that there is a better system, and the guy is, if not a commie, then an anarchist, but nobody takes them seriously.

>>74866820
>>74866772
>>74866739
please stop fighting, i really like music and i want to see people discussing this nice song :(

>>74866823
>>74866811
>Efrim was a highschool drop out who was homeless/on government assistance
Oh, so he's a worthless loser who never had any motivation to do anything and should have starved. I wonder why he's in favor of government gibs...

>>74866820
I understand where you're coming from, but it was a randomly selected smug reaction image

>>74866644
You're right. Lately, I've been calling any follower of post-structuralist ideology a communist because it all stems from there. Be them progressives, intersectional feminists, globalists etc. I realise that there are distinctions and I needed to be more accurate

>another thread devolves into pol tier retardation
i want it to end

>>74866843
Forgot the part where the guy accused Godspeed You! Black Emperor of making music about a cause without actually doing anything about it? Remember when that person then suggested that unlike the band he didn't believe in the same "worldview?" Remember when that person then suggested that "worldview" (communism) was also linked to poverty?

But don't fret, because that picture of the most iconic communist leader, Stalin, was completely unrelated.

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>>74866864
>assumes the band members are rich with zero proof
>"lol rich people don't know what it's like to be poor his opinions are worthless"
>people call him out on his retardation since one of the band members was literally homeless
>"lol whatever if he's poor it means he's worthless lol"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts

>>74866922
>was a poor worthless loser on government gibs
>now rich
>advocates for ancomistan
>doesn't donate fortune to the poor
Sounds pretty hypocritical

>>74866922
Right. Whether someone is rich or poor fighting for a noble cause is "worthless." He could have saved himself time and just said "helping other people is wrong."

>>74866949
>literally donated prize money to the poorest of the poor (prisoners)
What fucking "fortunes" do you think GY!BE make? You must be confused here because they're not selling millions of records AND those sales have to be split between 9 people.

And even then, we have no idea what any of the members do with their money.

>>74866919
>Forgot the part where the guy accused Godspeed You! Black Emperor of making music about a cause without actually doing anything about it? Remember when that person then suggested that unlike the band he didn't believe in the same "worldview?" Remember when that person then suggested that "worldview" (communism) was also linked to poverty?
Who gives a shit, I'm not that guy, I'm here just to pick on communists.
>But don't fret, because that picture of the most iconic communist leader, Stalin, was completely unrelated.
But I thought the USSR was not true communism™.

Anyway, believe me or not, it was selected at random from a folder of smug reaction images.

That's all, I'm out

>>74866949
>>now rich
>>doesn't donate fortune to the poor
give me sources on both of these

>>74866901
No, you shouldn't make any distinctions because you have no idea what you're talking about. Globalists is a perfect example of a nonsense term you heard on /pol/ or prison planet or some shit. You have no fucking idea what globalism is. It's not applicable here. Please kill yourself.

>>74867003
>no borders
>free healthcare for all

Please explain to me how you can manage free healthcare for all, and have no national government without a global system? And why are you so angry?

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>>74867003
Woooooow

>>74866981
>throws in a snide remark about the USSR
>hurr durr, the stalin image was completely unrelated to my communist comment!!!

So either you're back pedaling because you (still) have no idea what the fuck my beef was with your comment or you literally had no idea who Stalin was while you were totally refuting those known statists in Godspeed. Either way you're a massive retard.

>>74867027
>>74867003

Most conservatives/libertarians just want to know how you can have free healthcare for all without the added caveats. Cross-class utopian ideas like that sound very socialist, at the very least. And as Lenin said: "The goal of Socialism is Communism".

>>74867027
I'm not sure. How did the Native Americans manage to exist without a formal national government and somehow not be part of a global system? Strange innit.
>>74867036
Did you read the article?
"Globalist" is a nonsense Alex Jones boogeyman.

>>74867152
>Globalist
This guy.

Globalist is not a snarl world as you might think it is, since it's not a world view but rather an end goal to ideologies ranging from the far right to the far left

>>74867152
In what way were Native Americans globalist? And if their way of life was so effective, how did they get utterly wrecked by colonists?

>>74867215
They weren't.
They got "utterly wrecked" because the Europeans were not nice people.

>>74858569
>>74860796

>tough to read

I don't agree with it, but I see where they are coming from.

You must not read poetry.

>>74867304
Not bad poetry

>>74867027
i see no reason not to trust the people who brought us F#A# and Slow Riot. Because nobody on the right has accomplished anything as important as those.

>>74867319
>judging poetry purely by its message
wew

>>74867241
Don't you think they would have benefited from protecting their borders from "not nice people?

I'm still waiting for somebody to explain what the problem is with their manifesto. Or at least, somebody who hasn't drank the /pol/ kool-aid. Because god knows none of them can be taken seriously,

>>74867365
>thinking only aesthetics matter
wew right back at you, friend

>>74867390
do you understand the meaning of the word "purely"

>>74867434
Do you? Why did you assume I was only calling it bad for its message? Sounds like you were projecting

>>74866901
>progressives

i love how this term has become an insult

>moving forward and advancing as a society is bad because reasons

>>74867457
fair enough
>Sounds like you were projecting
that doesn't mean what you think it means

>>74867383
There's literally no defense. The fundamental ideas within, even if they're not "realistic," are undeniably good. All these kids can do is shout about how it's not realistic or deflect the discussion towards atrocities committed by dictators. The neo-nazis will apologetically defend their right to a higher standard of living while the status quo warriors will spend hours deflecting because deep down they hate the idea that they might have to give something up to improve the quality of life for others.

>>74867478
Except for the fact that their methods are illiberal and their beliefs are anti-scientific. Bill C16 in Canada is a perfect example of why Progressivism is bad. Its something evil, dressed up in a fancy word. Just like how muh communism is about equality, but what it does is kill millions.

>>74867478
It's the type of insult that only makes sense to alt right shitlords. It's like calling someone a social justice warrior. The implication is that they fight for social justice.

There's no better way to tell someone is a bigot then when they start complaining about "progressives," "social justice' or "virtue signaling."

>>74867552
>Except for the fact that their methods are illiberal
So?
>and their beliefs are anti-scientific
Yeah nah
>Bill C16 in Canada is a perfect example of why Progressivism is bad.
never heard of her

thank you for wasting my time, anon.

>>74867552
As a Canadian the right wing hysteria around Bill C-16 is fucking hilarious. All it does is add transphobia as a form of abuse in protective custody cases in the same way that homophobia and racism always have. In otherwords, if a trans person is abused by their parents after they've come out that will factor into a decision made by child protective services. Every single alt right shithole here started acting like this bill was designed to destroy families or some retarded shit.

If you have a problem with a bill that protects children from abusive parents because HURR DURR LE TRANS PEOPLE ARENT HUMAN then you're a fucking shitty person.

Also, while we're on the topic of "anti-science" which I'm assuming is in relation to transgender, you have no fucking idea what you're talking about and ironically you're the one who is full of shit here. Gender != biological sex.

>>74867621
>never heard of her
Spoiler: it gives trans people protections. The only reason non-Americans give a shit is because professional shitlord Jordan Peterson completely misunderstood it.

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GY!BE has been my favorite band for years and I've only heard one of their albums AND only half of it.
Help.

>>74867751
I'll help:
They're not your favourite band.

>>74867751
fuck off you retard

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>all these buttfrustrated Trumptards just now figuring out that GY!BE are anti-capitalist lefties

Lol, go listen to Dead Flag Blues again you reactionary mongrels.

>>74867621
I'm the one who is wasting their time by bothering to explain myself to someone who refuses to engage in my arguments.

Liberalism is extremely important. It took the human race millenia to come up with these ideas and accept them them. Losing these axioms to collectivism will take us back to violence. Charlottesville was just the beginning. We only have to go back to the 20th century to see the 60 millions deaths as a result of WW2 and the 100 million deaths as a result of Communism.

>>74867710
No government with a Liberal tradition has the right to force you to say anything. The words that come out of your mouth must be your words alone. I cannot even begin to describe the disastrous ramifications of state enforced compelled speech.

And gender is heavily influenced by biological sex. The majority of the public is CIS gendered. Not everything is a result of socialisation. Men and Women do have different personalities. There is insurmountable evidence to suggest that gender is related to biological sex

>>74867749
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnIAAkSNtqo

It appears to me that he understood it pretty well.

>>74858354
I love Godspeed to death but their personally philosophy was never a strong point and comes across as rather angsty and plain dumb.


I however do like how they keep spelling Canada with a K.

>>74867825
The idea of these kids in their MAGA hats listening to Godspeed and somehow completely missing the point is fucking hilarious to me.

>>74867478
I also think it's stupid for it to be used derogatorily, but there is a somewhat valid reason. It's used as a vague insult because the term has, more or less, been co-opted by particular groups of liberal ideologues.
To say that progressivism means "to move forward and advance as a society" nowadays is more of an oversimplification than a simplification.

>>74859665
>What is with you retards, can you not see that Soros has no interest in advancing the cause of the far left?

In fact, he funded anti-communist movements in East Germany in the 80's and was a big reason why the Berlin Wall fell. Of course, reactionary /pol/yps ignore this fact still somehow believe that a billionaire capitalist is also...a communist?

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>>74867865
>It appears to me that he understood it pretty well.

Peterson understands next to nothing except muh Jungian mythology (like the good ol' wannabe fascist he is). Please read some Marx and some of the 20th century postmodernists that were reacting to Marx. If you've got the reading comprehension of at least a 9th grader you'll quickly come to the conclusion that Peterson's understanding of Marxism, postmodernism, et al. is, uh, facile at best.

Seriously, I don't get how /pol/ and MAGA chuds continuously fall for grifters like Peterson. Just stop already.

>>74867865
>No government with a Liberal tradition has the right to force you to say anything.
That's good because bill c-16 doesn't force Canadians to say anything.

>The words that come out of your mouth must be your words alone.
What does this even mean? Bill C-16 is about child abuse. Yes, you "own" the words that come out of your mouth. That bill is talking about protected custody from parents who are abusing their children.

What you are doing here essentially is arguing that parents should be able to emotionally abuse their children because they shouldn't be forced not to say the abusive things they want to say.... what the fuck?

>I cannot even begin to describe the disastrous ramifications of state enforced compelled speech.
You can't begin to describe it because these "disastrous ramifications" don't exist. But I'll bite, tell me the way in which "restricting" the speech of abusive parents will lead to the fall of society. By the way, these parents are NOT being jailed for their speech, they could potentially lose custody.

>Not everything is a result of socialisation.
No one suggested this.

>There is insurmountable evidence to suggest that gender is related to biological sex
Having a relation does not mean they are one and the same.

>It appears to me that he understood it pretty well.
Honest question: are you Canadian? Have you read the relevant sections of C-16? Do you know what our "free speech" laws are?

>>74858354
>arbitrary meritocracy
merit is literally the least arbitrary criterion we've come up with - it's a hell of a lot less arbitrary than selecting people by their immutable physical characteristics like sex or race
>an end to borders
imagine being this politically naive, and every one of them is in their 40s.
>>74858392
I've been coming here since 2010, and never liked them. I've just been talking about different music this whole time

>>74858392
It's a meme. People just want to bait people who like Godspeed. I like Godspeed and I'm going to post the "emotionally dishonest meme".

>>74857143
Why post this emotionally dishonest crap?

>>74868011
I've seen the word "fascism" bandied about more in the past year than every year before that put together.
fascism just means "the force of the state." the Roman fasces was a bundle of rods and axes, the former representing physical punishment, the latter representing the state's perogative to execute people if it deems it necessary.
I was just talking with a Russian who owns a bookshop here, and she described the Soviet gulags as fascist - it was putting state power above the power of its citizens, and using that power against them.
so Nazis? fascist
Soviets? fascist
People's Republic of China? still fascist to this day
they're all top-down STATIST dictatorships, in contrast to the LIBERAL democracies that most English-speaking nations remain to this day

everything Peterson has been fighting for the last 30+ years has been to warn people against the dangers of becoming possessed by totalitarian ideologies from the left and the right, making him the last person anyone could label a fascist. it makes as much sense as finding a life-long anti-racism activist who claims that race is a social construct with no validity, and then gets called a racist because it's only by making those distinctions in the first place that they're able to identify whether black people need more help. it's simply ludicrous.

>>74857143

>watching mu tear itself apart as an oldfag who hasn't been able to tolerate this board since 2011

feels good

>godspeed
more like god this sucks

This is the same shit all of you were spewing about the Grizzly Bear shit. If the album sucks, it sucks. But if its a good album aside from the cancer said by the band or its members, who the fuck cares. No one who isn't retarded is going to look back on an album based on its cringe-worthy song descriptions on bandcamp if its content is great.

You faggots are all going to listen to it at least once and you know it.

>>74869060
What's it like to have tastes but lose them over the last 6 years? Sounds scary.

>>74858479
lol. ill bite. show me proof that what youre saying is true.

I mean, did you guys like the music?

I don't care about your faggot political views at all.

>>74869883
this

>44 Minute duration
>Apparently butchered Railroads (New Song #2 during the recording of the new album)

This was ok, but the lack of ambition is apparent. The Zion record from three years ago is going to end up being longer than this

This is a band who sells anarchist books at their shows. Not to mention the various allusions in their field recordings, interviews, album art, and side projects. It's not hard to figure out where they lean.

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>>74870232
So that's two 40 minute albums in a row. We're never getting another double album boys

>>74870359
mine as well go listen to LYSF because the glory days are long gone

>>74857143
I don't agree with their politics, but I really enjoy their music when it's got a nice happening vibe to it, like yanqui

>>74868784
What the fuck are you saying? Are you saying sex and race are more ambiguous and subjective than merit? Are you high?

>>74858479
>>74861086
>>74860796
>>74860318
Americans desperately trying to make any conversation about politics

>>74871399
I didn't call them ambiguous - I said they made piss-poor criteria for selecting people compared with merit.
and merit isn't subjective - especially in the STEM domains, which have about as close to objective standards of merit as we're likely to get. (sex isn't less objective - just irrelevant to the game. race isn't as black and white as sex, but it's still irrelevant)

>no one posts a DL

>>74863584
damn my almonds are fucking ACTIVATED

>>74867215
Are you 15? They got «pwned» cause they didn't have guns so their civilization must be inferior.
Do you seriously measure the mode of organization of society by who «reks» whom?

I

L I K E

T H E

S O N G

H O W

A B O U T

Y O U ?

>>74871749
The song is great anon, I noticed that too

>>74866981
>I'm here just to pick on communists.
please press the Ctrl + W keys

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>>74871598
You said arbitrary. And while I agree that sex and race and religion and sexual orientation etc. are very bad selection criteria in almost all professional cases, they are not arbitrary (depending on one's judgement or lack thereof [referees are arbiters]). They aren't black and white, but that doesn't mean they're arbitrary.

«Merit» is not unlike «virtue» in the sense that someone has general qualities. In Plato's Meno, Socrates asks some guy to define virtue and the guy names a bunch of random shit before admitting he doesn't really know. «Merit» is as subjective and arbitrary as the notions of good and bad, hence why they make shite criteria for anything.

In your STEM example, the criteria would need to be far more precise.

In Godspeed's example, «meritocracy» is a well coined term with a well defined meaning.

>>74871749
too chaotic/no wavey for me

>>74871777
nice trips

Anyone has a link to download for free?
I don't like to listen to stuff directly on bandcamp

>this thread is still up
what the fuck

Remember when /mu/ wasn't full of nu-male /pol/ babymen?

I know I know, from what I heard when I saw them live these last years this is going to be pretty good

>>74859900
best post itt

>>74859741
>A non-state collective of people could provide healthcare, food and water.
Keyword: could
In reality it'll never happen

>>74870232
>butchered

Please elaborate.

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>>74858479
imagine being this retarded

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sounds really cool, i enjoy it. Shame /pol/ is ruining yet another thread.

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>all these lefties feeling smug about people pretending to be right wing

Silly liberals, don't (you) know that the people you're laughing at are only pretending to be retarded?

>>74858392
I've hated their derivative crescendo garbage ever since I started browsing this shitty board some 5 years ago so this new backlash against them is good for me, even if it's by triggered /pol/-types.

>we will never be able to actually talk about the musical content of this album

I fucking hate all of you

>>74874997
Yikes. I guess it really is par for the course that you have shit tastes and found a home here for the last 5 years though.

>>74873972
yeah, it's called music on a music board

shocker, huh?

>>74875128
>this thread
>talking about music
lmaoing @ ur life

>>74858151
he has a point, you could at least acknowledge it and give a counter point

>>74875108
>you have shit tastes
But I've said I don't like GY!BE.

>>74858060
This, but unpolitically motivated and unironically.

>>74875195
Right, no, I got that part. I stand by my post. The fact you refer to them [still] as crescendo garbage is pretty indicative of the fact you have no clue though.

>>74875272
Sorry for saying that black is black buddy, I'll watch my language from now on and try not to trigger your safespace any more in the future.

>>74875341
>projecting this hard
How upset are you that Tumblr is irrelevant in 2017?

Your opinion is your own. But you sound like a complete sperg when making claims about bands you're uninformed about. Godspeed haven't relied on crescendos and guitar tremolo since the early 2000s. But it's probably easier to just dismiss the entirety of a band's catalog instead of putting in the effort to not sound like a retard, right?

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>>74858479
I love this thread

>>74858479
Nice.

>>74860202
do you also think that atheism is a religion?

>>74867825
The guy in your image is a Trump supporter who could easily school anyone on /mu/ on politics. Mocking others for their nativity while not being aware of this is sweet ironing.

>>74875868
>reaction images are a srs business

>>74875868
he is a huge meme and no one except his retarded fans take him seriously.

>>74876506
dude, the thread reached the bump limit.