Daily reminder that post-punk is better than punk will ever be.

>Bunch of fashion obsessed poseurs hang out in aesthetically pleasing urban areas for photoshoots and occasionally play poppy hooks with boring gloomy vocals
nah

Duh.
Every "post" genre is better than the regular version.

>>74824571
that's wrong
post-punk is an awkward transition point between punk and 80s genres such as new wave, goth rock and EBM

Only 20-something fuccbois who bought overpriced SLP jackets and skinny jeans in the late 2000s will claim otherwise because they have buyer's remorse and believe that the only way to validate their purchase is to make everybody else believe that they're the inheritors of a "patrician" music/fashion trend of yesteryear, when in truth they just got conned into trying to dress like The Killers and other embarrassing 2000s pop rock bands.

Depends on the band.

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>>74824596
Nobody is as "fashion obsessed" as trve punks.

>>74824649
As Boy George and Steve Strange put it, punks were fashion victims.

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post-punk is what happens when you kinda want to be punk, but don't have the balls to dress punk, so you pretend that you've grown out of punk and into something more advanced, even though the actual successors of punks were new romantics.

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>>74824765
Yeah. Japan, Spandau Ballet and Duran Duran are punk as fuck.

>>74825848
I said they were the SUCESSORS of punks

punk rock was all about fashion anyway

Punk Rock is the same boring shit played all the time on it's 3 chords.
It loses it's novelty after 6 songs
Post-Punk actually innovated and brought some cool shit like Minimal Synth, No Wave, Industrial, Gothic Rock, Synthpop, Coldwave

Opposite day?

How can you really compare the two? Doesn't make any sense.

There are great punk bands and great post-punk bands.

>>74825848
At least early on, Duran Duran did have a palpable tie with (the poppier side of)punk.
The whole concept of their first album was fusing punk with disco music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a3DGP65m2o

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punk: a return to the rock and roll attitude that was being co opted by rich fags and their prog rock, only musical genre at the time that was political, (sorry p4k disco sucked it isnt racism, its class war bitch)

Postpunk: rich collge art fags steal punk and turn it super fucking gay, birth goth,new romantics, lose the rock attitude again

Hardcore: Kids who didnt grow up with punk are jelouse and restart the scnes and are hardcore about it mayne, return to rock and roll attitude

Pop punk: punk finally dies and does the exact oppiste of what its meant to do, be famous and successful, embraces sounding good and capitalism

Folk punk: a return to the sneering in your face rock attitude, lower class, grimey, crusty, homeless, anti capitalist.

>>74826585
>Postpunk: rich collge art fags steal punk and turn it super fucking gay, birth goth,new romantics, lose the rock attitude again

The vast majority of the most widely respected post-punk bands(The Fall, The Birthday Party, PIL, The Sisters Of Mercy, Joy Division etc.) were working class or lower middle class though.

>>74826585
>folk punk

What bands are even classified as this

>>74826670
>Many post-punk artists were initially inspired by punk's DIY ethic and energy,[7] but ultimately became disillusioned with the style and movement, feeling that it had fallen into commercial formula, rock convention and self-parody.[19] They repudiated its populist claims to accessibility and raw simplicity, instead seeing an opportunity to break with musical tradition, subvert commonplaces and challenge audiences.[20][7] Artists moved beyond punk's focus on the concerns of a largely white, male, working class population[21] and abandoned its continued reliance on established rock and roll tropes, such as three-chord progressions and Chuck Berry-based guitar riffs.[22] These artists instead defined punk as "an imperative to constant change", believing that "radical content demands radical form".[23]


Littrrly the sjw faggot college kids of their day that hate lower class people

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>>74826715
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaDMYqUbOPU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBq2gB2sNk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78Gu8jD6yec

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maybe OP has a point desu

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>>74824571
Well... yeah!

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>>74826715
>Folk punk

>>74826748
>Littrrly the sjw faggot college kids of their day that hate lower class people

>Joy Division, who openly flirted with fascist imagery and whose frontman was a Thatcherite
>Mark E. Smith, who openly talked about how much he loathed rich college socialists in interviews and eventually fell out with Rough Trade because of their college socialist politics
>Killing Joke, who wrote tribute songs to the likes of Yukio Mishima and whose equal contempt towards communism and capitalism resulted in them getting accused of being a neo-Nazi band by overzealous leftists well into the 80s

Not every post-punk band was Gang Of Four, dude.

>>74826980
this, idk what other anon is on about

post punk for the most part was just punk bands that got bored of punk and decided to go somewhere else sonically

e.g siouxsie and the banshees

>>74826585
>>74825899
>>74824628
>>74824571
>>74826748

fans of post-punk are easily the most pretentious music fans - obsessed with the idea of genre and grand convoluted narratives.

>>74824765
>Don't have the balls to be a walking joke
That's more like it. Find out how the punk boom started and you'll answer your own question. Let's also not pretend that punk had any real message, starting with Sex Pistols.

>>74824602
Please be a shitpost.

>>74827527
How dare someone like a different genre of music? The rascals, aye?