Is the media turning against Taylor Swift?

>drop a diss track on kanye's mother's passing anniversary
she deserves it

Daily reminder that Reputation is being released on the 10th anniversary of Kanye's mother's death, and despite her label saying it was a mere coincidence, they still haven't changed the date.

Is everyone that dumb to not have noticed that she has essentially at this point embraced becoming the villain? Did the track with a much darker/colder atmosphere than anything else she has done not point it out? Or the music video to that track which even has the lyrics point it out?

Grimesfagging has never been this bad

>>74803396
>Most of the articles I've seen about her new release are about how it's very petty, how she's an attention whore, playing the victim, etc.

This has literally been the public's perception of her for at least 5 years now.

>>74803449
Seriously, there's fucking hundreds of swidt threads.
Oh my god just shut the fuck up and stick to one or two threads, christ.

>>74803565
I tried shitposting in them because I thought it'd be fun but I got banned so...
I guess I'll have to filter some more words.

>>74803449


fuck you

Everyone is comparing her to Beyonce now and talking shit and making a ton of white girl jokes. It's the it thing to do. Also Swift has never outwardly identified herself as feminist I believe, and the vocal media can't fucking stand that a female wouldn't do that. I'm not a Swift really, the only positive attribute to me is she has a cute face and an alright body, but her music is still gonna sell in record numbers whether it's worthy of it or not.

>>74803417
>>74803417
>>74803424
It's not like Kanye's a saint. He's a dick, and if he can dish out he should take it.

>>74803770

how is he a dick?

The public has always thought of Taylor Swift as a person who dates guys specifically for the sole purpose of breaking up with them and writing songs about it. It's about time the media caught up with the populace in dogpiling her.

>>74803396
>how it's very petty, how she's an attention whore, playing the victim, etc.
for what? im out of the loop here

>>74803396
shes been one of the few silent pop stars not anti-trump. ofc they're going to lynch her

>>74803396
JUST

the song is selling massively well so it doesn't really matter what the media think

>>74803770
He didn't diss her to begin with, she said the lines in famous was tongue in cheek herself. It was recorded, and she denied she was ever phoned and knew about it. She clearly lied, and then it became about the word bitch. Which is weird considering she would be fine with Kanye saying she owes him sex, but bitch is just way too far. Regardless she lied.

>>74803447
We know, and it is a bad direction to go. It won't work in her favor.

I think it is because she claims to be this feminist warrior but hasn't said a word about BLM, condemning white supremacy and all that american bullshit.

If she had spoken against white supremacy her new track would have been reviewed as "strong" and "brave". Though I have to admit that it is kind of weird she hasn't spoken against those kinds of things.

"I Don't like your tilted stage"

LOOOOL

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>>74804025
I reckon they'll lobotimise her like they did with Kanye

WAAAHHHHH IM A BIG ASS MONEY HUNGRY CRY BABY
SNAKE SNAKE SNAKE! HISSSSSSSS
IF I DISS YOU I WONT SAY IT DIRECTLY BECAUSE IM A PUSSY

>>74803837
Stealing Taylor's microphone, supporting Trump and Cosby, releasing The Life of Pablo, praising Tyga for fucking an underage girl, being an idiot on Twitter about water bottles, mental breakdown, bleaching his hair.

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I don't care about media but it's always nice to see Kanyefags' meltdown on RYM

Taylor v Kanye beef is as "authentic" as Red vs Blue politics

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>>74806092

the Taylor/Katy beef is funnier too.

>>74806092
At least this is harmless shit in the end. I'd rather have people fight about this than more race wars bullshit

>>74806454
>>74806548
Agreed

>>74805877

people are dicks for voicing their opinion on water bottles....wew lad, you need to go back

Is she trying to look like that 80s rock dude in this picture?

Why do people care about bad pop music like Kanye and Swift, and their contrived publicity shit?

>>74807524
Why do people care about them caring about bad pop music like Kanye and Swift, and their contrived publicity shit?

>>74807568
I'm curious

Who gives a shit?!

>>74803417
>>74803424
Woah, so this is the power of schizophrenia...

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>>74807502
Is this intentional?

>>74803424
Why does this matter? Someone has died on literally every day of the year

>>74807705
ahahahha holy shit

>>74803424
that's solely because of taylor selling out to target's distribution schedule. they're giving her another big deluxe rollout.....they're being presented as the main place to get the physical CD, which her rabid fans want.

>>74805877
>Stealing Taylor's microphone
Who gives a shit she still didn't deserve the award regardless
>supporting Trump and Cosby
Cosby didnt do anything I believe and he supported trump I think during his nervous breakdown
>releasing The Life of Pablo
>praising Tyga for fucking an underage girl
Everyone wanted and still wants to fuck kylie, he also did it within the confines of the law
>being an idiot on Twitter about water bottles
Who gives a shit
>mental breakdown, bleaching his hair.
This doesnt make him or anyone a dick

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>>74803767
At least Swift was aware not to fall for the socially-conscious-aesthetic-switcharoo like Katy JUST Perry

>>74808425
>Who gives a shit she still didn't deserve the award regardless
>um it's okay to ruin a 19 year old girl's best moment in life because she didn't deserve it

The absolute state of Kanyefags

>>74803424
Someone has died on every day of the year. What's the big deal?

>>74805877
>Stealing Taylor's microphone
Kanye stands up for what he believes in
>supporting Trump
He didn't vote

>>74803447
>I'm sorry Taylor can't come to the phone right now
>She's dead

Was that really necessary?

>>74808748
>Kanye stands up for what he believes in
so do nazis, doesn't mean they're right

>>74808653
>literally ignored everything else to focus on one moment that Taylor most likely never thinks about
I'm pretty sure Taylor has had a Grammy by then too

>>74803396
Shes white. What do you think is eventually going to happen to her in the music industry if she isnt singing country music?

>>74804387
>denounces whatever
>it is now expected she will denounce every god damn event til the end of time
it is not worth her time or effort. it's really god damn obvious. also politicising yourself is a fucking fast way to lose fans

>>74807524

Kanye and Taylor can't really be compared music wise. Taylor will always be a pop artist who isn't really taken seriously; Kanye has had a huge influence on his genre and is taken pretty seriously as an artist, personal craziness aside

>>74805877
>someone is a dick for having their own political opinions
God you're a bitch

>>74810125
>it is not worth her time or effort. it's really god damn obvious. also politicising yourself is a fucking fast way to lose fans

I agree. Take for example Neil Young recording an album as obnoxious as "Living With War" and then playing its songs live.

>>74810158
>Kanye and Taylor can't really be compared music wise
They both make generic pop music. They are the McDonalds of music. Their whole schtick is more about celebrity and bullshit than it is about the music, neither have any sense of artistry

>>74810196
Lyl my dad said people said same about the Rolling Stones back in the day.

>wtf these guys are overrated they sound like a fucking bar band it's not about the music, just money and this cult of celebrity

>>74810158
>the absolute state of kanyefags

>>74809229
>so do nazis
antifa pls go. it's past your bed time.

>>74810233

I don't really consider myself a kanyefag, I'm just telling it like it is. I don't think you'll find a professional music critic who disagrees with me

>>74810248
fuck off back to /pol/

>>74803424
I'm going to go ahead and diagnose you as mentally retarded.

>>74808572
Very true.

>>74810248


go back go pol faggot. communism in the us now

Was it Billy Joel who said "I don't do politics at my concerts because I don't think most people pay money to be preached to."

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>>74810546
You had your time, pinko. We da president now.

>>74810546
Remeber new kids for all board do /example/ for them do not show them disrespect by not using the right format. Thx rawr xd :D habe a great afternoon fag

>>74810724
Billy Joel sucks

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They're turning on her? Well, I'll have to have a little chat with them soon.

>>74810792
He had some ok songs.

>>74810380
Am professional music critic.

You're right in that Kanye has had a huge influence in his genre, but it's also hiphop. Hiphop isn't that hard to be an influence in, especially if you're good and willing to take risks and experiment with sound.

Look at how Death Grips has been perceived, look at Clipping. Another upcoming rapper, JPEGMAFIA, is showing this too.

Pop is sorta a supergenre. It's hard to experiment and influence without being in another genre. Pop might absorb something experimental from hiphop or even alternative rock, but it rarely influences its own sounds. Much the influence to modern pop we can trace back to the 60s, 70s, and 80s.

Taylor may not be a huge influence in Pop, but the popular sound as a whole is shifting in the direction her new release has displayed.

I said noise would be the future of music in the 80s, I still hold on to this prediction. Industrial was just the beginning and Taylor's new song will prove that come Sept. 16th when the Billboard-100 is released. People as a whole will be more accepting of harsher, darker, and more aggressive sounds.

>>74811655

>hip-hop
>death grips

t. larping musca critic

>>74803447
No she hasn-t. She's making herself out to be the "edgy and cool" hero. God I wish she made herself the villain ala MBDTF. But nope instead we got this generic shit that has no self awareness.

>>74812083
I just saw the music video and I sort of take back what I said.

>>74803396
There is no bad publicity. Tay slays and controls the narrative. She is supposed to be portrayed that way now, going all "bad girl" and all that shit. Unlike the usual industry slave doing it by accident, it's all perfectly planned. Did you ignore all the snake shit? She's simply embracing it now.

>>74803424
Oh noes, a multimillionaire is getting bantz back from another multimillionaire. How will Kanye even handle the stress and pain? Maybe he could make an album bitching about Taylor!

>>74812260
Lol was just about to roast you for clearly not having watched the video
I don't even like pop music/pop culture in general, and so far this has been entertaining af.

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ITT

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Rest in peace Taylor Swift's career

>>74803396
The bitch stabbed way too many people in the back.

Everybody hates her.

>>74808653
She didnt though, there are plenty of people who can sing and play acoustic guitar. She is only famous because shes a cute girl and was in biz with the right people.

>>74803396
she doesnst backstab her self because she cant see her back
this has nothing to with race polcucks
she is backstabing as fuck

>>74813718
the only one backstabbed was her by that dipshit Kanye. He never told her about the "I made that bitch famous" line. And Katy Perry also backstabbed her, she had an affair with Tay's then boyfriend. Katy literally cucked Tay.

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>>74811655
the one thing pop has not done is absorb some of the more harsher electronic, metal, and punk subgenres. Like industrial, grindcore, death metal. Stuff like that.
I dont really see it shifting in the future because now more than ever the jews running the music world seem risk adverse
But it would truly be an innovative and weired thing if you made like power violence pop

I think this would be innovative and create some novel music and sceanes.

Taylor swift fucking sucks at music and is a better business person though.

>>74813823
>But it would truly be an innovative and weired thing if you made like power violence pop
So basically whatever it is Grimes is currently working on cooking up next? (these are her two most recent releases):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXor30_XZMY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHmVqMISPLw

Does anyone have any leaked information about her new stuff? would be pretty much appreciated. Also, i hope someone leaks out her shit real quick

>>74803396
You either die a hero...

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>>74803447
it's called a heel turn, and yes

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>>74807705
YES! THE 80s R BACK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIpfWORQWhU

>>74803396
My girlfriend and I just had a whole conversation/debate about T Shift because of this thread. Thanks a lot asshole.

>>74812967
>Rest in peace Taylor Swift's career
Nobody knew anything about Pepe or who Ben Garrison was, that's why /pol/tards were able to kidnap, slander and wreck them. That tactic won't work with Taylor Swift any more than it would work if they tried it on Micky Mouse.

>>74814903
nice humblebrag

>>74808810
Jesus christ Raimi

(((They))) are asking her to disavow /pol/.

Reality is becoming a cartoon.

>>74809229
Back to /leftypol/ with you!

>>74812369
>projecting this hard

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>>74812967
>it's another "pol shitposters turn the normies against something they want to keep in their secret club" episode

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>>74812967

>>74815676
meant for >>74815459

>>74811655
Honestly, this. There is an odd Electroclash element to the latest track. It definitely has a darker and noiser edge to it compared to the current singles from her contemporaries. It's honestly interesting regardless if ya think the songwriting is poor or not. I'm not even a fan of her music, but I have to admit at least this.

>>74803396
She was born into wealth so she got life on ez mode. Her father was the 3rd generation of a line of huge bankers. Her wealth from a young age bought her fame and got her signed easily. So I wouldn't be surprised if she was playin the victim..

>>74816166
Hi, reddit.

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>>74803424
>>74803417
>>74806017
>>74805877
Absolute keks. Those people just made my day.
This is like a Kpop fanbase discussion.

So if she wanted to be edgy, why doesn't she host an AMA here? Nothing else gets gears grinding in Hollywood than the "le nazi troll 4chan army".

>>74816470
She already got flak for posting on /b/ a while ago.

fuck the media

her new clip has gotten 11.5 million views in around 7 hours, with a 10-1 like to dislike ratio. it was hot, it was self-aware, and it's catchy edgy song.

It's rating to be one of the fastest watched clips on youtube of all time

what the fuck does the media know? the general public fucking loves it and that's all that matters

LOOKWHATYOUMADEMEDOOHHH

>>74803396
Her music is made by hundreds of men who probably decided to phase her out in favour of someone else so they made her new shit sound cocky. Who cares, she's the musical equivalent of a frozen pizza.

>>74816488
When?

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Like who cares its just girls music
In the best scenario, i gonna have a nice blowjob frommy gf

>>74813775
good bait

>>74808572
this

>>74805877
>mental breakdown
not really a dick move is it

>>74813823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRaMsDyW-XQ

>>74816166
fuck off reddit

>>74803396
the song will make the rounds on youtube and get many views but it is shit doesnt even compare with her other hits...

>>74807729
damn...

>>74810225
He was right

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>>74816713

>>74803565
Don't go to TV then there's over 50 game of thrones threads

>>74806454
Jesus christ her JUST levels are rising.

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>>74806454

>>74803447
If she is a villain, it's the cringiest fucking villain since Arnold's Mr. Freeze.

>>74803522
She has been a crying victim babby since day 1. She always pretended to be le shy girl next door but in reality she is a conceited rich spoiled girl. Her father literally owns her label kek

muh country gurl lmao

>>74803876
She goes on too many dates, and can't make them stay.

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>>74803447
>I don't like your little games
>Don't like your tilted stage
>The role you made me play
>Of the fool, no, I don't like you

obvious
>I don't like your perfect crime

refers to the (((NWO)) subversion plan


>How you laugh when you lie

'Jews have totally fabricated reality and often do so with a macabre sense of humor, especially at the elite occult levels.


>You said the gun was mine

refers to (((them))) framing us, portraying us as total villains while they make themselves(and minorities) look innocent


>Isn't cool, no, I don't like you (oh!)


This song totally describes the awake Aryan's feeling toward the elite Jews, especially considering the Nazi imagery and the fact that Taylor hasn't denounced us....she released this video instead.

>>74805877
>releasing life of pablo
gud one
many kek

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>>74822193
Oh and she dated Tim fucking Tebow
For those who don't know about the guy:
http://archive.is/gsRPA

>>74812083
>>74812366
>>74812260
> as if video doesn't make it even more cringe

>>74803449
t. Grimescuck

>>74822193
>>74822269
also what's with the lynching a banker Hotline Miami style? No way this is just about her petty feud, that's the obvious part for the plebs. Like M*A*S*H pretended to be just about the Korean war but was actually about 'nam.

>>74822269

Taylor got smashed by Tebow? That would have been the greatest sex tape. Because of Tebow, obviously.

>>74822060
>3%, $120,000 share
Wtf i hate taylor swift's dad now

>>74822307
>t. Grimescuck
Anon, why would GrimesCuck say something like that?

>>74803424

they don't have to cater to kanye

>>74803447
she's trying to do a heel turn but failing fucking miserably because
1. her music is more bland and toothless than it's ever been, see fucking interpolates i'm to sexy for my shirt on this song.
2. she's still maintaining that she's the innocent one, and ooh that mean nasty kanye forced me to be this way. She's still the good guy at the core of this new narrative.
3. Clearly appropriating the yaas queen slay bullshit of beyonce and gaga among others, this whole change is so patently commercial and see through that even youtube coments and pop twitter are calling her out.
4. poptimism is finally starting to downcycle (at least for white singers) so hopefully that means less glowing thinkpieces about how her music is actually so deep and complex.

This is one her worst singles, anyone here liked this one?

>>74803396
>it's very petty, she's an attention whore, playing the victim
All they're stating is the obvious, anon

>>74822643

>Clearly appropriating the yaas queen slay bullshit of beyonce

You mean for the 'formation' dance sequence? But pretty much every scence in this video is a rip off of another artist's music video. Whether that's more of the self-aware winking shtick or just lack of originality is unclear to me.

Watch her collab with The Weeknd next to try and make herself look cooler, darker and edgier

>>74822710
lets give her the benefit of the doubt and say it is meant to be winking, then the question is winking at what? SO she's stealing everyone elses work because....she's evil now? Like what's the message if that's the case.

>>74822643
>Clearly appropriating the yaas queen slay bullshit of beyonce and gaga among others, this whole change is so patently commercial and see through that even youtube coments and pop twitter are calling her out.
she's mocking them

>>74822710

Got to be self aware, there's so many and they're all so blatantly obvious. From the second viewing I got, Michael Jackson's a Thriller for the zombie scene, Lady Gaga's Paparazi for the car crash, Nicki Minaj's one for the dominatrix figurehead, Beyoncé for the dance sequence, birdcage reminds me of Britney Spears Circus?, Madonna for the T cruxifiction?, and apparently others scenes are homages too but I'm not well versed enough in pop music to get the references.

>>74822893
She's a twisted fucking psychopath, clearly

>>74822899
Nah, she's in no place to be mocking them when she never figured out an aesthetic of her own.

>>74822893

Maybe it will become clear within the context of the rest of the album? If not then it would be pretty lame. But with as much thought as they seem to be putting into all of this there must be some meaning to it, right?

>>74823043

I also think they're going out of their way to tempt the Vigilant Christian illuminati morons, especially with the snake eating itself stuff.

you can't have dancers in your video now without ripping off beyoncé?

I won't listen to the song until somebody makes a PMV and posts it on that hub of porn.

>>74823923
Was wondering the same thing

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>>74823923

I've never even watched Beyoncé's formation video but based on screen shots, Taylor undeniably copied her.

>>74803424
It's like dropping a record, on which the cover is a picture of an airplane and over new york city, on 9/11 and then saying "oh it's pure coincidence"

>>74825102
lmao kanyfag are this retarded

The internet is trying but they are failing horribly. Taylor is expected to debut at #1 on Billboard with sales of over 500k, the last time a solo female did that was like...Adele

>>74822193
>refers to the (((NWO)) subversion plan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juqm94sUV_E

>>74810055
Maybe she'll do a colab with Eminem and finally just tell people to lick her asshole.

>>74803424
Classy

>>74816529
Her original lyric video for LWYMMD had the most views in its first 24 hours of any lyrical video in the same time period. The runner up was a Chainsmokers song that got nine million to LWYMMD's 17. On Spotify, not did the song have the most streams for a song within the first 24 hours of being released on the platform, it had the most streams ever in a single 24 hour period.

Media literally has no idea what its talking about and wonders why people are labeling them as fake news.

>>74816529
>It was popular so it must be good
Ok then

>>74822943
Really? Are you high?

>>74816529
>>74826882

What are you even whining about exactly? The media already reported the numbers of a major label artist, you're not thinking a corporate puppet is some sort of anti-establishment antic, right?

>>74826691
>using the word classy when there are Kardashians involved

I wish teenage girls, and grown men with the mentality of one, were auto-banned.

>>74826930
>It was popular so it must be bad
Ok then

>>74827030
Different anon. Who is more "establishment" in 2017 - Kanye or Taylor Swift?

>>74827088
Why would you want to get yourself banned from posting here?

>>74827143
>Why would you want to get yourself banned from posting here?
I don't know how you do it in whatever inbred hick high school you haven't graduated yet, but "no u" is really a very contextual insult.

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She doesn't need the media when her video made it to the top 5 of views within a 24 period already, beating out any other music video ever in the history of music videos.

Everyone is jealous of her, why?

>>74822348
he is still a virgin according to old articles

>>74827197
>"no u" is really a very contextual insult.
Then why are you using it? And shouldn't it be 'haven't graduated FROM yet'?

>>74822654
I liked Red and 1989, don't like this though

>>74827259
Fwiw it hasn't even actually been up yet for a full 24 hours either...

Recently I have listened to Taylor Swift songs and liked them, what album should I start with /mu/ ?

>>74827351
Funny. I've never liked anything she's released before, and so far I'm REALLY digging this.

>>74827323
>Then why are you using it?
I didn't, you did. And do us all a favour and don't attempt to play grammar nazi like you haven't seen anyone use slang before.

>>74827259
>two top ten videos, one of which is top five
>hurr TS is a hack guys

>>74827392
Listen to them in order of release date. They're all good, and it'll be interesting to hear the progression of her style.

>>74827259

1. She didn't have to sing in spanish to be the top music video of all time within a 24 hour period.

2. She beat her last record of "Bad Blood" by over 15 million views so far.

3. She beat Adele who is apologetic about being white and cried when she beat Beyonce for a grammy. lmao

Taylor is the female saviour of the white race.

>>74827410
>you did.
[citation needed]

>slang
Forgetting the prepositions in your prepositional phrases isn't slang, dear. It's the sort of basic grammar mistake people who haven't yet graduated FROM high school do...

>>74816166
shitposting aside why do people fall for this meme? there's literally hundreds of failed celebs who come from rich backgrounds to refute this. you need luck and at least some kind of work ethic to make it even if you're loaded

>>74827513
My god, asking for citation for a reply chain of like five posts. Alright, dumbass:
>>74827088
>I wish teenage girls, and grown men with the mentality of one, were auto-banned.
>>74827143
>Why would you want to get yourself banned from posting here?
This is what's known as "no u," when someone insults someone, and the insulted person says "NO U ARE." Example: "You're fucking ugly." -"No, you're ugly." And what makes it contextual is that it only works if the one who first called the other ugly, also is ugly. Do you get it now? See, it makes sense when I said it, because Taylor Swift is a braindead whore who makes shitty music for teenage girls. To point that out, however, does not suggests that the person who did it has the mentality of a teenage girl themself, unless they follow up with something in the vein of "Marina and the Diamonds are much better," as they are also a band for teenage girls.

>>74827520
>why do people fall for this meme?
(Most) people don't like the thought that the only thing really holding them back from attaining massive success at something (eg. being a pop-star like Taylor Swift) is a lack of hard work and commitment on their part. Better to chalk it up as lack of access to some sort of silver spoon.

>>74827640
>This is what's known as "no u,"
Among teenagers still in high school. I repeat - why would you want to get yourself banned?

>>74827727
GG no re, you stupid bitch.

>>74827400
That's definitely weird. I just think it's kinda cringey and she doesn't really pull it off too well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXeyb6MtD2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17buOgIHmO8
cute

I really hated Bad Blood yet I fucking love this

Must be the self-awareness and the "let me be the villain" approach

I think the references to other artists' videos (Beyonce's dance, Britney's clothes, Gaga's paparazzi, etc) is basically saying "I'm a star, deal with it" no? Or otherwise just a reference to how she's a star.

>>74803424
No one gives a fuck when anyone's mother dies, get the fuck over it.

>>74827964

she's moreless making fun of them

she's the only one in the music business who is famous, hasn't sold out, makes more money than them, and is doing what she likes to do while everyone else has to live through their miserable existence making much less for doing much more work

they feel taylor has to pay dues or some shit like they had to do in the music biz, but she & her dad outsmarted the music industry (her dad has a 3%-10% share of her record company) and she doesn't have to put out music if she doesn't want to and nothing has been forced upon her against her will (like so many others in the biz).

while they had to participate in a political agenda she didn't have to do any of that shit..

she's aging. when a female popstar turns over the age of 25, the media turns on her. it happened to britney spears, and it's happening to her now

>>74828191
I don't think she's mocking them, if anything, she's making fun of the industry for being a circus, but I still stand by what I said about it comparing herself to the likes of icons like the ones I mentioned (I think even her hairstyle in the swing part resembles Christina Aguilera's hair).

I don't think she "makes more working much less", I think she's smart about managing her brand and I do think she works a lot on her music, even if a lot of her songs are colabs with other writers. She's even written songs for other artists, there's no real reason to believe she doesn't write.

>>74827801
How does one pull off being cringy 'well'?
If you find it cringy, then you find it cringy. Personally I find most all pop music cringy to a certain extent. But in this case, the inherent cringiness of it is being used as an artistic device - which imo is just cool. This whole song/video thing actually reminds me a lot of peak era Lady Gaga - another artist whose music I never cared for despite having considerable respect for her ingenuity in putting together such a successful act. However, unlike Lady Gaga where everything you saw was just contrived for the moment, Taylor Swift is mining her own actual self/her history in the spotlight as the source for all this silliness. Which makes it doubly cool (and her triple-y cool person for doing it, since being able to sincerely lampoon yourself is a very rare trait amongst big-time performance artists.)

>>74828281
Britney was a washed up whore that desperately wanted fame and money. Taylor is a decent girl that wouldn't be catched doing what Britney did on a regular day in a thousand years. Fuck off.

>Wtf people think I'm a goody two shoes
>I s-swear I'm not
>I'm going to have to show people I can be edgy too!
>"look what you made me do" x 20
The only important musical genius of our time..

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>>74829494

I was going to do this cross-referencing last night, but never got around to it.

Thanks for saving me the trouble.

Though... I would have used this image as the base, since it shows all of the Taylor's clearly.

>>74829608
The one I posted has more taylors, though. That shot only has like 6 past-era taylors.

>>74829515

Has no one compile all of the homages yet? I didn't even realize this scene was one.

>>74827465
>the masses have good taste

holy shit
/mu/ takes the most retarded shit way too seriously

>>74829820
>taking /mu itself seriously
Pretty sure your issues are much bigger desu

>>74829862
this
>>74829820
that's part of the joke m8

>>74803424

Good, fuck kanye. That's actually top tier bants out of TS and makes me like her more

>>74829494
KINO

Oh shit, wrong board

>>74807705

TS = Twisted Sister/Taylor Swift

ZOMG

>>74823923
>>74823958
see
>>74824028
only on /mu/ would you see the OP image, then this one, and believe there is not a direct correlation between a pop artist who appropriates everything already and the biggest video of 2016 of the biggest female pop star we have today.

It's even got the whole "I'm suddenly a fierce woman" bandwagon hop on, except everyone is laughing at her in my daily life and on the internet.

FB and irl has been a non stop "wow, she's a total cunt. I hope Kanye drops shit on her"

>>74829494
Wow, it's all of her "personas"
(looks made for her that, like lipstick on a pig, alter and reflect nothing about who she is)

Speculation says the part with the motorcycles is about Lucky 13's lawsuit.

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>>74831224
>yfw the biggest eclipse of 2017 is Kanye suprise dropping Wyoming AotY Nov. 10th on top of the snake

>>74831224
>a pop artist who appropriates everything already
Why are you saying such obnoxious things about Beyonce?

>>74831224
>FB and irl has been a non stop "wow, she's a total cunt.
Why are you crowdsourcing Facebook for your opinions on things?

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>>74803396
She is so petty, dumb, cringy, and her modern music is so bad.

But I still want to fuck her so desperately its unbearable.

>>74831424
>>74831445
Sad, pathetic /mu/drones.
Just like Swift, you can't accept any real criticism.

>>74831555
Why are you incapable of answering direct questions?

>>74828191
>forming your own iconic image and aesthetic is a "miserable existence"
Sounds like Taylor's just lazy and salty about the fact that not everyone's as unimaginative as her.

>>74826973
What's Taylor Swift's aesthetic? Tacky cowboy boots back when she was like 19? Sometimes wearing red lipstick? Instagram filters? Outfits we've all seen on 2011 hipster blogs on Tumblr?
She's blond and tall and attractive, but that's literally it. She has no real artistic direction or personal fashion style. If this still doesn't make sense, try this:
You can't really wear a "Taylor Swift inspired outfit", because that'd just be normal clothes. You can, however, put together a Beyonce-inspired outfit, a Nicki Minaj inspired outfit, a Rihanna inspired look, a Madonna inspired look, a Lady Gaga inspired look. That's because they each have something to deconstruct and work with, Taylor just doesn't. There's no such thing as a "typical Taylor Swift music video" either. There's nothing iconic about her, no matter how hard she pushes "party like it's 1989".

>>74831792
>You can't really wear a "Taylor Swift inspired outfit"
You won't believe this https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/6mbc21/a_year_of_taylor_outfits/

>>74831555

lmao Beyonce doesn't have an original bone in her body when Jay isn't fucking her. All she has going for her is YAAAAAAAS QUEEEN because she's a proud strong black woman which is all the rage in 2017

>>74831893
I guarantee that literally no one would know that girl was cosplaying as Taylor Swift unless she went out of her way to talk about it, because literally none of those outfits are iconic or unique to her.
You're just proving my point further tbqh.

>>74831792
You mean she isn't just a cartoon caricature of a person? Unlike, say, people whose entire identities can be simplified down to nothing more than:
>a Beyonce-inspired outfit,
>a Nicki Minaj inspired outfit,
>a Rihanna inspired look,
>a Madonna inspired look,
>a Lady Gaga inspired look.

>She's blond and tall and attractive
Wow - sounds like you're describing an actual person desu

>>74803396
Taylor Swift is the only non-trashy woman in music, so of course they'll turn on her.

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She's beautiful.

>>74832225
I can't believe Taylor Swift fans are so retarded that they actually conflate personal style and aesthetic to an entire identity. I guess we should all wear potato sacks so we're not cartoon caricatures.
>Wow - sounds like you're describing an actual person desu
Nope. Make no mistake, Taylor is extremely calculated about everything she shows to the media. We never see multiple sides to her humanity apart from the media personality and "Taylor (as a brand)" she constantly projects, which is why the Harris/Kardashian-West/Perry feuds were such a big deal. She's probably the most cardboard cut-out version of a celebrity we've ever seen.

>>74831224
>t. literal nigger and/or friend of niggers

>>74831542
I would let her do unspeakable things to me

>>74832345
>We never see multiple sides to her humanity apart from the media personality and "Taylor (as a brand)" she constantly projects,
Are you bipolar? You just got done telling us here >>74831792 all about how she has no definable brand/aesthetic and how *terrible* that is.

>>74832345
So what you're saying is that in this video she's mocking other artists for being clowns in a circus when she became famous for her music, not because of the persona she created?

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>>74832026
Name one outfit that Nicki Minaj or Beyonce wear that isn't a tasteless joke
Taylor's style is called CLASS. Pic related is classy too.

>>74832463
>that complete non-sequitur
First, aesthetic =/= brand. It sounds like you don't know what an aesthetic is, because you've jumped from it being someone's entire personality to it being a brand. At least pick one way to be wrong. Second, her not having an aesthetic says nothing about her personality. Third, I didn't call it "terrible" or really make any kind of subjective commentary on it, you just got offended and read into it that way.

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>>74831792
The Taylor Swift inspired look is the nazi barbie, I thought this was obvious already

>>74832504
Taste is purely subjective. You've unintentionally exemplified that with your example.
>going barefoot while wearing sweater and a pair of jeans
>"Now that's CLASS"
O-Okay

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>>74808425
>cosby didnt do anything

nigga you wylin

>>74832502
Nah, she's probably just a bit annoyed that everyone has their "thing", but she never hacked a way to find hers.
>when she became famous for her music
*her looks and her parents' money
There's really nothing innovative about her music, there's a line of attractive blond women with guitars or pop influences who could easily take her spot. The difference is that she has connections and made it sooner than the rest of them.

>>74832625
It's not "going barefoot with a sweater and jeans", it's how she does it. How she combines those clothes in an objectively aesthetic way. She looks good, and that's what it's about.

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>>74832595
Even her "Nazi"-looking outfits are derivative. Pretty much every artist was wearing black bodysuits 2015-16.

>>74832750
She doesn't wear those clothes in any specific or interesting way apart from how they're meant to be worn. They're not combined artfully or with much though.
She looks good because she's young and attractive. That's literally it.

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>>74803417
Stupid cunt

>>74832548
>you've jumped from it being someone's entire personality to it being a brand.
We're discussing public artist IDENTITIES here, to which terms like 'personality', "brand', and 'artistic aesthetic' are all subordinates.

>her not having an aesthetic says nothing about her personality.
Then why are you trying to insinuate that it does?

>I didn't call it "terrible" or really make any kind of subjective commentary on it, you just got offended and read into it that way.
I sincerely take back my uncalled-for snarky remark about being bipolar. Are you a teenage girl? Because you're seriously starting to sound like one in a NOT good kind of way.

wow why even think about this vapid bullshit you fucking idiot
do something with your life instead of fill your mind with this trash
fuck everybody in this thread
fuck you for caring about this
you effeminate pieces of shit

but i like tay tay

>>74832835
I think he meant the album

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>>74832795
that looks nothing like her dog whistle dresses
also explain the fashwave coloring and themes

>>74832820
seriously words go in one ear and out the other. what the fuck is wrong with you people? Its like you are permaeuphoric or emo little 16 year olds with daddy isses. Why dont you fucking try to be happy and stop being such perverted little cunts. Fuck its a lost cause. If you want to be a sad cunt so be it, Im done trying. I hope you commit suicide or cut EDGYEMO into your wrists because thats all you ever will be. a sad cunt.

>>74832673
>Nah, she's probably just a bit annoyed that everyone has their "thing",
>being jealous of other people having caricatured themselves into literal clowns
How does this logic of yours work exactly?

>there's a line of attractive blond women with guitars or pop influences who could easily take her spot. The difference is that she has connections and made it sooner than the rest of them.
You wouldn't happen to be an attractive but slow-footed blonde woman? Because you're starting to sound just a tad bit jealous here with your ODDLY specific peeves...

>>74832865
>We're discussing public artist IDENTITIES here, to which terms like 'personality', "brand', and 'artistic aesthetic' are all subordinates.
That's only what you're doing. I never mentioned identity once, I was talking about style and artistic direction. Again, I can't believe Taylor Swift fans conflate aesthetics with identity.
>Then why are you trying to insinuate that it does?
Where have I done that even once? All I've done is point out the obvious.
>I sincerely take back my uncalled-for snarky remark about being bipolar. Are you a teenage girl? Because you're seriously starting to sound like one in a NOT good kind of way.
You should probably direct that question at yourself, because only a teenage girl would get this personally offended over someone not explicitly worshiping Taylor Swift in all ways.

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>>74832835
Stupid cunt

>>74803424
no one gives a fuck about the anniversary of harambe's death

>>74832795
>Pretty much every artist was wearing black bodysuits 2015-16.
So what you're saying is that Taylor Swift Doesn't follow trends, and does whatever she wants when she feels like it? Got it.

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>>74832940
This is the edgiest thing I've ever read in my life.
>mfw Swift's fanbase is stuck at the mental age of 14

>>74832820
>She doesn't wear those clothes in any specific or interesting way apart from how they're meant to be worn
Anon, that's called not being a tryhard.

>>74832976
>How does this logic of yours work exactly?
Having your own style means you've caricatured yourself?
>You wouldn't happen to be an attractive but slow-footed blonde woman? Because you're starting to sound just a tad bit jealous here with your ODDLY specific peeves...
No, but if you want to push an RP with me as a girl (male) that badly, I can't really stop you.

>>74832673
>There's really nothing innovative about her music, there's a line of attractive blond women with guitars or pop influences who could easily take her spot. The difference is that she has connections and made it sooner than the rest of them.
While her connections probably opened doors for her, I would argue that they are definitely not what made her famous. It would help her put albums out, but it can't make people buy them, specially not when Big Machine Records was a fledging company when she started her career. And in my opinion, the thing that distinguishes her music from other "attractive blond women with guitars", or at least what distinguished her in her heyday, is the writing. Her songs back then (and some of them today still) would tell stories in a very detailed and yet romantic and almost poetic way. Another recurring attribute of her songs is how she manipulates verses and hooks to have very similar lyrics within the same song and yet tell another part or another side of the story (see White Horse, Speak Now, All Too Well, Mine, How You Get The Girl, etc). I think her country phase really benefited from this, and I also think country's influence in her writing also benefited her pop stage.

>everyone has their "thing", but she never hacked a way to find hers.
Or maybe her "thing" was not having a "thing" at all. Like, who relates to Lemonade? Or Applause? Taylor's image of "your average hopeless romantic" is, from my point of view, part of what made her famous. I don't think creating an outlandish persona for yourself classifies you as a better artist.

>>74833019
>follows trend of black bodysuits
>"So what you're saying is that Taylor Swift Doesn't follow trends,"
I get it now, you're only pretending.

>>74833057
Refusing to try doesn't make you classy.

>>74832983
>I never mentioned identity once,
Well, except for here >>74832345

>You should probably direct that question at yourself, because only a teenage girl would get this personally offended
You mean 'TO yourself'...?

>worshiping Taylor Swift
Nobody one here is *worshipping* anyone here, anon. Learn to recognize shitposting. 'Cuz God knows there's LOTS of it here - all the time.

>>74832673
>*her looks and her parents' money
>her looks
I thought she didn't have a look?
>parents' money
Oh, I see. You're just a memeing faggot.

>>74833076
>Her songs back then (and some of them today still) would tell stories in a very detailed and yet romantic and almost poetic way. Another recurring attribute of her songs is how she manipulates verses and hooks to have very similar lyrics within the same song and yet tell another part or another side of the story (see White Horse, Speak Now, All Too Well, Mine, How You Get The Girl, etc). I think her country phase really benefited from this, and I also think country's influence in her writing also benefited her pop stage.
How is that particular technique much different from several other artists of the same genres/background? I agree that it helped during her country era, but otherwise, I'm not sure.
>Like, who relates to Lemonade? Or Applause?
The Lemonade album is chock-full of songs that are extremely relatable to women who have been with unfaithful partners, and "Applause" is relatable gay men/women involved in the art scene (though the latter is more of a pop anthem, while other Gaga songs are more personally relatable, carry heavy messages, symbolism, etc like her newer songs).
>Taylor's image of "your average hopeless romantic" is, from my point of view, part of what made her famous. I don't think creating an outlandish persona for yourself classifies you as a better artist.
This is true, but it's more than a bit sanctimonious to mock artists who go the extra mile to form decent visuals and display some artistic prowess because you personally chose not to. Mediocrity, intentional or not, doesn't make you a better artist.

>>74833089
>>follows trend of black bodysuits
How is doing something when other people aren't doing it following a trend?

>>74833109
>Refusing to try doesn't make you classy.
Depends on what's being 'tried' desu.

>>74833245
>Well, except for here >>74832345 (You)
So, me pointing out that personal style and aesthetic are not the same as an entire identity is your big "gotcha"? That's pretty pathetic.
>You mean 'TO yourself'...?
I'm not the one who can't differentiate between "aesthetic", "identity", "personality" and "brand", anon. You shouldn't be trying to correct other people's grammar when you struggle with the definitions of words.
>Nobody one here is *worshipping* anyone here, anon. Learn to recognize shitposting. 'Cuz God knows there's LOTS of it here - all the time.
You've sure proven that.

>>74803396
Its been against her for a long time anon

>>74833324
was meant for >>74833227
Also
>I thought she didn't have a look?
Being attractive isn't an aesthetic.
>Oh, I see. You're just a memeing faggot.
The truth is now a meme? Okay.

>>74833252
>How is that particular technique much different from several other artists of the same genres/background?
Different anon. Why should it matter? If it ain't broken, why fix it?

>decent visuals
What universe are you living in?

>>74833292
Other people are/were doing it, and she followed suit. You literally greentexted the part where I pointed that out, too.

>>74807729
>>74808690
>>74828181
But it's Kanye's mother. Her passing took a huge toll on him, and it shows in his lyrics and personality. During the dropout era, he was just a happy funloving guy who occasionally rapped about black issues. After her death, he became the eccentric and innovative Kanye that we know today. It's a significant event and Taylor must have known about it.

>>74803396
this song is trash and Miley Cyrus' Younger Now is an instant classic

>>74833359
>Why should it matter? If it ain't broken, why fix it?
It doesn't, but it doesn't exactly contradict the point that her music isn't exactly innovative or not easily replaceable.
>What universe are you living in?
Just because you personally don't find them aesthetically appealing doesn't mean others don't, or that they won't be iconic to our current generation decades down the line.

>>74833324
>So, me pointing out that personal style and aesthetic are not the same as an entire identity is your big "gotcha"?
No. It's me pointing out that you are the one who brought up the umbrella concept of identity in this conversation to begin with.

>>74833371
>Other people are/were doing it,
Hate to break it to you, but black bodysuits have been around for decades/centuries... Doing so is only a trend when it's done by people in groups.

>>74833312
And in this particular case, nothing is.

>>74832996
speechless
W O W

>>74833383
>But it's Kanye's mother. Her passing took a huge toll on him
Unlike mere mortals, to whom the passing of their mothers is just a blip on the radar of life...

>>74833252
>This is true, but it's more than a bit sanctimonious to mock artists who go the extra mile to form decent visuals and display some artistic prowess because you personally chose not to. Mediocrity, intentional or not, doesn't make you a better artist.
This also seemed too far for me, which is why I think it's a stretch, and why I originally interpreted the references to other artists as a statement of "I'm a star too", to go along with the theme of "reputation", Or maybe it's more like an "I'm just like them, making an image for myself, and yet I'm the one that gets trashed for my every move". I think that would be even more along the lines of "reputation".

>The Lemonade album is chock-full of songs that are extremely relatable to women who have been with unfaithful partners, and "Applause" is relatable gay men/women involved in the art scene (though the latter is more of a pop anthem, while other Gaga songs are more personally relatable, carry heavy messages, symbolism, etc like her newer songs).
Well yeah, so those themes do have an audience, and that's why they're hits; Taylor's themes had an audience too, which is why she's a hit, I would think.

>How is that particular technique much different from several other artists of the same genres/background? I agree that it helped during her country era, but otherwise, I'm not sure.
Well, I would think it's the combination of image, writing, appearance, age, smart choices (Taylor turned down a bigger label to stay with the underdog BMR), luck, and the opportunities brought to her by her father or elsewhere. I think all of those things in combination are what made her famous. In other words, she's "The Lucky One" (that's a song of hers).

By the way, anon. I really appreciate that we can talk about this in a civil manner.

>>74833383
I got his entire discography and never knew when exactly his mother died. Unless you really care, it's not something you'd know. Though given that she clearly made fun of the car crash, she did probably do the research, which would be petty but so what? The industry isn't nice and he started dissing her.

>>74833416
Not the anon and wouldn't say her music is anything special but the combination with the person it kinda is. Almost every pop star is either some industry drone or gets theirs losing control phase with muh breakdowns, while Taylor so far is completely in control. She's obviously more intelligent than 99% of the industry, making her stand out.

>>74833416
>it doesn't exactly contradict the point that her music isn't exactly innovative or not easily replaceable.
Why should it? What's wrong with just listening to music because you enjoy it?

>aesthetically appealing
The word you used, to which I was responding, was 'decent'. I repeat - what universe are you living in?

>>74833453
>you are the one who brought up the umbrella concept of identity in this conversation to begin with.
I'd like to redirect your "Are you bipolar?" quip back to you, because the exact opposite is shown in that post. You're the one who brought it up because you (foolishly) failed to understand that artistic direction doesn't constitute an entire identity, and I basically said "No, the two are different. You don't know what "aesthetic" means. You misread my post and made yourself look retarded".
>Hate to break it to you, but black bodysuits have been around for decades/centuries... Doing so is only a trend when it's done by people in groups.
In this case, the people in groups consist of pop artists in 2015/16. In the years before that, there was far more variation. I know you don't know much about anything visuals-oriented (since you don't even know what an aesthetic is), but this is pretty elementary.

>>74828334
no one pulls off being cringy well. She's just being so edgy that's what i meant by her being cringey. Idk her bad girl act is pretty lame

>>74833578
How is making fun of the whole circus being edgy?

>>74833477
>not reading the rest of the post
I'm not saying that it's weird that her death affected him. I'm just saying that, unlike most people (who are affected greatly by the death of a parent, but return to their normal selves after some time), Kanye was changed forever by his mother's death.

>>74833562
>artistic direction doesn't constitute an entire identity
What part of "umbrella concept of identity' is so hard to understand? To re-iterate what I initially said here >>74832865 a person's identity is an aggregate of things like 'branding', 'personality', and 'artistic aesthetic'. Why are you passive-aggressively agreeing with me?

>In this case, the people in groups consist of pop artists in 2015/16
Which would make Taylor Swift doing so at a different point in time not part of that trend. Dong ma? Again, why are you passive-aggressively agreeing with me? Have I hurt your feelings or something?

>>74833680
>unlike most people (who are affected greatly by the death of a parent, but return to their normal selves after some time
What alternate universe do YOU live in? I'm starting to see a real pattern with all these Taylor Swift haters dropping into these threads. And it ain't pretty...

>>74833520
>This also seemed too far for me, which is why I think it's a stretch, and why I originally interpreted the references to other artists as a statement of "I'm a star too", to go along with the theme of "reputation", Or maybe it's more like an "I'm just like them, making an image for myself, and yet I'm the one that gets trashed for my every move". I think that would be even more along the lines of "reputation".
It could go either way, tbqh.
>Well yeah, so those themes do have an audience, and that's why they're hits; Taylor's themes had an audience too, which is why she's a hit, I would think.
I don't disagree with this. If she weren't a hit, she wouldn't be one of the most popular pop artists of our time.
>Well, I would think it's the combination of image, writing, appearance, age, smart choices (Taylor turned down a bigger label to stay with the underdog BMR), luck, and the opportunities brought to her by her father or elsewhere. I think all of those things in combination are what made her famous. In other words, she's "The Lucky One" (that's a song of hers).
But is there anything that separates Taylor herself from the rest (as opposed to a mixture of physical beauty, signing to a good label, and essentially being in the right place at the right time), or is it just the "normcore" aspect?
>By the way, anon. I really appreciate that we can talk about this in a civil manner.
Same. I like arguing and shitposting as much as anyone else, but it's nice to have a decent conversation.

>>74833723
>What part of "umbrella concept of identity' is so hard to understand? To re-iterate what I initially said here >>74832865 a person's identity is an aggregate of things like 'branding', 'personality', and 'artistic aesthetic'. Why are you passive-aggressively agreeing with me?
You saying "Okay but they're all basically the same thing, you're agreeing with me pretty much!!!!1" doesn't really make a valid point, sorry to say. You're the one who brought up the "umbrella concept of identity" because you personally conflate all of those things. That's not my problem. Just admit it and go.
>Which would make Taylor Swift doing so at a different point in time not part of that trend. Dong ma?
She's not doing it at a "different point in time", she's doing it at the exact same time as everyone else.
>Again, why are you passive-aggressively agreeing with me? Have I hurt your feelings or something?
I'm now entirely convinced you're unable to differentiate literally anything from its opposite, and just started this because I dared to point out a simple fact.

>>74833534
>Why should it? What's wrong with just listening to music because you enjoy it?
Because that was what was used to counter my argument? I never criticized anyone for listening to that music, I just pointed out the obvious. You can enjoy something for what it is, even if it's inherently trite and lackluster.
>The word you used, to which I was responding, was 'decent'. I repeat - what universe are you living in?
Okay:
Just because you personally don't find them *decent* doesn't mean others don't, or that they won't be iconic to our current generation decades down the line.

>>74833769
>denying facts
Most people obviously aren't completely the same after a parent passes and will be sad when remembering them, but they don't become super fucking paranoid and bipolar like Kanye.

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>>74832923
Wouldn't that make Nicki Minaj a Nazi Barbie, too?

>>74833921
>even if it's inherently trite and lackluster.
Enjoyable music isn't 'trite and lackluster' by definition, anon...

>or that they won't be iconic to our current generation decades down the line
Oh, I expect they will. Much like how bell bottoms, shag carpeting and disco were iconic to the 70s... and NO other time.

>>74833974
>but they don't become super fucking paranoid and bipolar like Kanye.
Um, anon, the paranoid/bipolar/schizophrenic ones do.
Face it - your precious Kanye isn't special. He's a messed up person just like lots of other people. And he isn't automatically entitled to special coddling about it just because he happens to be famous.

>>74833979
Nicki does so much better rapping with niggers than when she's just added to a generic female pop song so they don't have to.

>>74834071
>Enjoyable music isn't 'trite and lackluster' by definition, anon...
That's like saying junk food isn't "unhealthy or bad" because you enjoy it, and anything enjoyable can only be good.
>Oh, I expect they will. Much like how bell bottoms, shag carpeting and disco were iconic to the 70s... and NO other time.
Nah, more like how people are still doing throwbacks to 90s fashion, Madonna's most well-known outfits, classic music videos, etc etc.

>>74833808
>But is there anything that separates Taylor herself from the rest [...] or is it just the "normcore" aspect?
I think it's just the execution. I personally do honestly think she's an exceptional songwriter, so in my opinion that's what made her stand out. Of course nowadays she has an army of writers helping, but back then I think that's what made her successful. I really can't tell what else about her music could set it apart from other blue eyed blond haired country girls. I think she got famous because of her writing skills, and then she got (and stayed) popular due to very smart management of her brand.

>It could go either way, tbqh.
>If she weren't a hit, she wouldn't be one of the most popular pop artists of our time.
Agreed and agreed. Also sorry for the slow reply, my computer crashed while I typed and I had to reboot it.

>>74834195
>That's like saying junk food isn't "unhealthy or bad" because you enjoy it,
No, that would be like saying that healthy food isn't "unhealthy or bad" because it is healthy food. Which is true, by definition.

>throwbacks to 90s fashion
You mean like giant shoulder-pads?

>>74834128
>Um, anon, the paranoid/bipolar/schizophrenic ones do.
When did I say that Kanye is the only one who this happens to? I said MOST of the population. Last time I checked, most of the population isn't paranoid, bipolar, or schizophrenic.

>Face it - your precious Kanye isn't special. He's a messed up person just like lots of other people.
Again, I never said nor implied that Kanye is some one of a kind case. Stop putting words in my mouth.

>And he isn't automatically entitled to special coddling about it just because he happens to be famous.
Non-famous but still mentally fucked up people don't get into beefs with famous popstars and have said popstars release albums on the 10th anniverary of their mother's deaths just to spite them. Your point is?

>>74834339
>When did I say that Kanye is the only one who this happens to?
Right here >>74833974

>I said MOST of the population
You said 'Most people obviously aren't completely the same after a parent passes and will be sad when remembering them, but they don't become super fucking paranoid and bipolar like Kanye.'
You never mentioned anything about the rest (the people not covered under your use of the word 'most') being as bad or worse than Kanye - thereby making him a not-so-special case.

>>74834339
>Your point is?
If they weren't non-famous, they most certainly would. Because that's what crazy people do - things like convince themselves that everything other people do around them is done out of spite. Because clearly THEY are the center of the universe...

>>74834319
>No, that would be like saying that healthy food isn't "unhealthy or bad" because it is healthy food. Which is true, by definition.
In this case, you're saying the musical equivalent to Diet Coke and a Big Mac are healthy.
>You mean like giant shoulder-pads?
No, I mean like ripped jeans, flannels, chokers, peter pan dresses, wide-brimmed hats, etc. All the things you probably think are new.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tmd-ClpJxA&t=65s

When shes wearing the latex/bdsm thing. Why does it look so fake? Have they cgi'd her onto a doll or if that her real body.

>this thread is still going
So, this is the current state of /mu/.

>>74834426
Holy fucking semantics (if I'm using that right, don't fucking crucify me if I'm not).

When I said "like Kanye", I was also including people with the same problems as Kanye. I was just using Kanye as an example of those types of people. It's not my fault that you take everything so fucking literal.

>>74834477
>If they weren't non-famous, they most certainly would.
Do you think all mentally ill people are either a Kanye, an X, a DMX, or a Joe Budden? Because people like Kid Cudi and Capital STEEZ exist/existed. Not every person with a mental illness gets into heated beefs like Kanye and Taylor.

>Because that's what crazy people do - things like convince themselves that everything other people do around them is done out of spite.
It's not some random person that Kanye has no history with. It's Taylor fucking Swift, his sworn enemy. Of course it's possible that she did it intentionally. It's not a stretch by any means.

>Because clearly THEY are the center of the universe...
To reiterate what I just said, it's the person he's in a high profile beef with. Not some random fucker on the street that pissed him off. What is fucking wrong with you?

>>74834552
It's your mind rationalizing the appearance of Taylor Swift's sweet all-american country girl face on a body with breasts dressed in a provocative outfit associated exclusively with kinky sex.

>>74834676
No look at the way the outfit digs into the boobs, it's not real. Some bodysuit or something

>>74834850
Obviously. She's wearing the push up bra to end all push up bras. It's just so jarring to see.

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>>74834869
fake

>>74834877
they look too big to be hers push up or not

>>74834552
You might be right, cant believe i fapped to fake tay

could be makeup to look like that though

>>74834877
at the 2 second mark in that video you can see her right boob like deflate a little bit wtf

>>74835011
That's why it's called bounce, but yes it is defiantly fake and no ones noticing

I'm kind of glad, I like innocent taylor not slutty taylor

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>>74835090
Actually I think it could just be a shit ton of make up, i found this

sad shes gone so far with the fake tits

>>74803396
It's literally because she hasn't come out and formally denounced her nazi fans that say she's /our girl/ with pics of her in nazi gear and the 14 words like the Jews have been gaslighting her to do. She will be attacked because she is the archetype of a beautiful aryan white woman. This is what the Jewish media most despises.

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>>74835136
eggsactly

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>>74835270
YOU ARE SO FUCKING LUCKY THAT IM HAVING A MENTAL BREAKDOWN RIGHT NOW AND CANT ARTICULATE MY THOUGHTS BECAUSE I WOULD DRIVE YOU OFF THE BOARD AGAIN YOU FUCKING CHOAFAG KILL YOURSELF

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>>74835318
DONT FUCKIN @ ME NIGGA LIKE WHAT THE FUCK IM ABOUT TO FUCKIN KILL MYSELF I HAVE NO ONE TO TALK TO ABOUT THIS AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS TALK ABOUT YOUR SHITTY WAIFU JUST FUCK OFF PLEASE

>>74835270
>>74835292
>>74835318
>>74835338
>>74835358
why is this board so obsessed about nobodies?

>>74835358
i just listened to some of her music and i'm actually enjoying it wtf

>>74835390
She's taken pal

>>74822193
>NWO
>(((them)))
>nigs
>commies
>fags
>space alliumz
Why are you nuts?

>"look what you made me do"
Kim and Kanye made her publish her worst music yet
>"I'm too sexy for my shirt" ripoff
>felt victimized and now embraces it
This the shit white people do when taught they can be whatever they want to be but are still goody two shoes.

>>74835510
>felt victimized and now embraces it
No that's def a negro thing

>>74835338
Wow, Choa looks pretty cute here desu.

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>>74835819
choa's cute all the time