/jazz/

Last album I heard was Moanin' and and I liked the sound and the drums :)

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Wes Montgomery - Road Song

Found the LP in the discount bin at the record store, it was the last LP he recorded before dying. Mainly covers of pop songs like Beatles Yesterday and Simon/Garfunkel - Scarborough Fair. Very uninspired and boring, not really much effort in his playing, even Herbie on Piano didn't seem very enthused about it. The title track and Pete Seeger cover at the end were the only listenable tracks.

This was way better than I was expecting because I never liked any of Iyer's trio albums that I have heard. I thought the songs were really good and all the sax solos were amazing.

Somebody yesterday was saying that it was too rock influenced or something. I don't know what he was talking about though. Like yeah a couple of the songs have a backbeat but there's a lot else going on and it seems like most modern jazz has at least some backbeat these days.

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>>74780375
forgot pic

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Good shit

>>74780274
I feel like this is one of those ones that I see all the time in record stores and it's always like $2 or 3

bump so this doesn't die while I'm writing my review...

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Good shit

>>74780392
I also listened to this

From the line-up you might guess that this might be a mash-up between Iyer's recent albums - on bass there's Stephan Crump and Tyshawn Sorey has often played with Iyer and occasionally fills in for Marcus Gilmore in Iyer's Trio - and Steve Lehman's octet - not only is Lehman on alto sax, but there's also Mark Shim from that group on tenor sax and Sorey plays drums there as well and I'd say that sets expectations pretty correctly.

More quiet and slow moments sound quite a bit like Iyer's trio work - somber, yet somehow heavy. Iyer is a huge fan of Monk and certainly understands the value of maintaining some tension.

When the saxes become more prominent, the group often does sound like Lehman's octet with it's determined horn lines. Lehman's alto playing sounds quite a bit like Rudresh Mahanthappa who has worked extensively with Iyer and I think the match works well.

There are some electronics-laced moments, one track recalls Miles in the 70's with some heavy effects on Graham Haynes' trumpet. Based on the first listen these really didn't sound like they fit the flow and the mood of the album all that well. The instrumental-hiphop-meets-Monk-piano-solo track Nope also has the same problem - just do an entire album of strong tracks that make use of the entire sextet like the opener and closer tracks and it would be a real winner.

Some very good music here, but the long arc of the entire album leaves room for improvement.

>>74780392
>>74782396
would you guys consider this "free jazz"?

>>74782429
no ._.

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Last jazz album I listened to was Circle - Live in Germany.
The first half of the album in particular, is pretty fucking wild. Way wilder than much of what these guys would get up to in their later careers. A few months later, these guys would be recording Conference sans Chick plus Rivers and they had gotten WAAAAAY more grounded in that time. They jam out on Q&A for this performance, the head is way looser and more sporadic and once they get out of the head, it's basically a free for all. Occasionally, someone like Chick will reference what they were doing in the head, but otherwise they're just listening to each other and letting the music go wherever.
This performance and the Circle recording in general are really exploitative and shows these guys in a light I haven't heard them much in. It shows Chick was a disciple of Cecil Taylor before L. Ron Hubbard and Sheet metal works surprisingly well as a percussive instrument in free jazz.
The second side swings hard, but it's still post boppy as fuck and sprawling and experimental at times. Braxton's solo is particularly interesting and goes from a very Eric Dolphy style "bop skeleton with harsh extended techniques and unusual harmony" solo into some like....timbre explorations ala Albert Ayler or like, Meditations era Pharoah Sanders. There's definitely two sax players at some point during the solo too, but I've no clue who the other guy is...discogs says it's just Braxton on the album, but I doubt he overdubed himself. Something to look into I suppose.
Great album in any case, very versatile with some of the best playing these guys ever did.

>>74783181
Nice review my man. Do you have RYM?

>>74783297
Nah, not one I use anyway.
I just like writing reviews on /mu/ every so often when I feel nostalgic for /blindfold/ threads.

I don't listen to jazz.
But I like playing jazz chords.

>>74780392
Who's got a link?

>>74783552
I bet you're like that guy who doesn't ever read but who awkwardly tries to use big, fancy words and then misuses/mispronounces them half the time

>>74783610
projection?

>>74783534
RIP /blindfold/

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I can't write for shit, but I'm enjoying reading these reviews. Can anyone who knows them comment on Phronesis, and how they've changed across their albums? I loved their early work, and feel like I'm missing something on Parallax and especially The Behemoth. Can someone who liked both their new albums and their old ones help talk me across the gap?

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This was pretty good chill core

>>74783181
the late 60's-early 70's Corea stuff is pretty dope - Circle, A.R.C and IS

I don't know if it's true, but it's at least a persistent rumor that Hubbard told him to quit that avant-garde/free shit when he was getting more involved in scientology in that time

>>74784482
The Behemoth is easy to explain - since they're working with a big band, there's bound to be something lost as one of the best things about Phronesis is how tight and nimble they are, the big band is just too big to move at that speed so at least for me that made The Behemoth less enjoyable

>>74780392
Corniest album this year

>>74784876
Yeah, I guess I was just clinging to the hope that somehow the democracy of the trio was going to magically translate to a big-band.

So, does it gain anything valuable from the big-band setting in your eyes, or are you like me in that you think The Behemoth is straight-up inferior to their work as a trio?

>>74784925
some of the tracks are OK - I like the Behemoth version of Untitled, not something I'd like to see them do another album of, though

>>74784699
At the very least Chick has blamed scientology for the direction change. He did actually know Hubbard too, so it's not unlikely the suggestion came from the man himself.
>I no longer wanted to satisfy myself. I really want to connect with the world and make my music mean something to people.

Fuck that noise though, Chick's free stuff means a hell of a lot more to me than most of the rest of his catalog. He had some class fusion stuff for sure, but I just can't help but feel he could have done so much better if he hadn't felt the need to make his music more accessible.

Still though, without scientology, we wouldn't have the absolute peak of 80s cheese: The Chick Corea Elektric Band
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnAtaneReNI&ab_channel=chikaipon
>dat robot dancing tho
Gotta make a gif out of that shit some day.

>>74784512
>tfw poor Duke with no clue how to handle comping under John on Take the Coltrane
Coltrane gets pretty far out when afforded that pseudo-chordless freedom too. It probs wasn't intentional, but it kinda works out really well.
Also, while there are shaky moments like that where it feels like they're having trouble gelling, they more than make up with it for the beautiful times they do mix nicely. That version of In a Sentimental Mood is one of Duke's late in life masterpieces for sure.

>>74779395
>listening to jazz
Found the pleb.

>>74786006
Is it you?

>>74784919
wtf does corny even mean?

Joni Mitchell- Mingus
The 4 travks composed by minhus are clearly a cut above the others. Joni and jaco are great, shorter fits very well into jonis harmonic concept though herbies voicings seem aliitle bland compared to mitchells strange open with capo chords. Great record though in consistent. You could really just listen to the 4 mingus composed tracks and be set. 8.2 of 10.

>>74782296
Looks good.

>>74785975
I think he just made the choice to sit out on that tune. Besides, he does well comping at the end.

>>74780392
Vijay suuucks. The antithesis of fucking jazz nerd circle jerking. Boring once you get past the good technique and lacks any real edge and emotion. Its the new york intellectual technical wank fest as opposed to the philly SMASHJAZZ technical wank fest and i honestly think id rather hear philly smash then this prententious crap. Only redeeming quality to iyers career is bank rolling tyshawn soreys good stuff as a leader.

>>74786550
Duke may have been trying to free trane up by getting rid of the piano comping, yeah. Mccoy often makes this choice when playing with trane begining in 62 or so.

i don't need to prove shit, thankfully, but i feel the need to share this.

i listened to Ryo Fukui's Scenery and it's marveous. I've always loved lead work, specially on piano or guitar. The way this guy leads around the chords he plays is mesmerizing. Seems just like any other jazz piano album at first, but it really gets under your skin. The basslines are absolutely perfect every time and he even opens up space for the bass guy to solo. just an amazing jam-session-like album, it seems to flow effortlessly, as if they just made all that up.

>>74786592
I don't think you understand what the word 'antithesis' means. If you think that Vijay is technically proficient, yet overly-intellectual and unemotional, then you could call him archetypal of jazz nerd circle jerking, but not antithetical of it.

>>74780392
Holy shit, just saw that JTG gave it 5 stars. Seconding request for a dl link

>>74786773
Top kek

Perhaps he could use a little more intellectualism in his life

>>74786627
>>74786550
Just doesn't strike me as something Duke would go for in a small group. Especially considering how weird the end result is. It'd be tame on an album like, Giant Steps but it's fucking alien compared to the usual soloists Duke worked with.
It'd be interesting if it was premeditated though. It's a fairly modern idea for Duke Ellington. He'd probs heard the likes of the Gerry Mulligan quartet, but the whole thing kinda meant something different by the early 60s with how Coltrane and Ornette Coleman were doing it.

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Swing revival kino.

>>74787164
Relevant

>>74786784
Never trusted that nigga's taste. This album is as mediocre as it gets.
>>74786398

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=corny

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Hey B, let's play that funky dope J-Dilla Joint. REAL NEW YORK HIP HOP JAZZ Shit. Like BADBADNOTGOOD but you can play this shit at cocktail parties too.

the last jazz album I listened to was W Shorter's Speak No Evil as it was his birthday and I've been digging the Anthony Braxton performance of Juju on YouTube.

I like Shorter, he has a very meditated and 'down to earth' way of playing. this CD was varied but never hard to appreciate. something was mentioned in the liner notes about his influence from John Coltrane's playing, but honestly I don't hear that. Wayne's playing is far more relaxed, still very modern sounding. Hancock on piano really provides a nice comp too, and the rhythm section is especially solid. I forget the drummer's name but his rhythmic awareness on tjis album is quite peak performance, some really polished playing and good takes.

atm I am listening to Birth of the Cool. I haven't listened to the album maybe more than twice but it's definitely the Miles I like best. it's the best mix of fine composition and an enduring curiosity from the soloists. the playing sounds fresh even today, even for quite an early era album it is easy to miss the tropes before they're happening. very hip

>>74788741
Well what's some modern jazz that you like?

Spoiler: it doesn't matter what albums you pick because I'm going to say that they're all corny and be just as justified as you

https://youtu.be/QSmYTc1Jv7w

>>74788914
Robert Glasper is neat

Solid thread. Rec something recent with a violin in a prominent role, please.

>>74786773
Jazz musician. Not an author. Sorry about misusing the word.

>>74786832
Oh fuck off.

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>Black jazz artist makes complex, technical, and unique sounding jazz
>He's universally hailed as an innovative genius (Eric Dolphy, Andrew Hill, Anthony Braxton)

>non-black jazz artist makes complex, technical, or unique sounding jazz
>"these white academics are what killed jazz"
or better yet
>not real jazz lol

>>74789538
Maybe stick to country music then boy. There's a reason for that.

>>74789640
What is it?

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Most of the recent highly praised jazz stuff often tends to have a more chaotic, dissonant, free and avant garde jazz bent. Maria Schneider Orchestra has seemingly been the exception to this, making big band jazz with an enormous ensemble that also has obvious classical music influences. Maria Schneider it seems is more content with following up on Duke Ellington than Ornette Coleman or John Coltrane. To me one of the standout aspects of this album is how it uses a combination of a very jazzy approach to dynamics/note velocity that has an organic fading feel to it, subtle addition/subtraction of layers within the instrumentation, and spatial awareness that's either based on where they recorded or through stereo mastering all done to give the album the particular atmospheric approach it was going for (The Thompson Fields is the farm area where Schneider was raised). The 19 man ensemble is often not playing all at once, nor are they playing similar stuff either thus not only is there many subtle moving parts to the works, but also a display of knowledge of timbre and harmony from Schneider that I have rarely ever seen in jazz. Now a record like this wouldn't normally have made much space for improvisation, but there's quite a bit going on mainly from sax players Dave Peitro and Steve Wilson. Although I have to wonder whether they are actually improvisations or part of the compositions as well just because they all fit each section so well whether it's slow droned out notes or very fast paced yet tongued notes which give them that percussive feel.

Schneider has demonstrated excellent skill as both a composer and band leader on this album, and if any of her other albums are as consistently good as this one I can easily see her as potentially being up there with Ellington and Mingus among others as one of the greatest bandleaders in jazz. Brb getting the rest of her discography.

>>74789538
Is this for real?

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>>74789304
>Vijay Iyer is corny
Ok I'm with you so far

>Robert Glasper is neat
See pic

>>74789916
Yes, why wouldn't it be?

>>74789966
That wasn't my post. Robert Glasper is corny as fuck for the same reasons the new Vijay Iyer album is bad. Cheesy Hip Hop "fusion" hamfistedly shoved in there for the sake of commercialism or an attempt to stay "Fresh". Vijay Iyer is doing the same thing as cheesy bands like BBNG except it's worse because he's a 50 year old Indian guy.

>>74790217
Have you actually listened to his new album tho? Like yeah I think some of the hip hop shit he's done with the trio sucks but I heard almost none of that kind of stuff on my first listen through of the new album.

I'm here to get flamed for asking what you guys think of BADBADNOTGOOD. Also is there any modern jazz you consider good, since I have a feeling I already know the answer?

>>74789375
Zach brock but i dont love his playing. Super nice guy though, get coffee with him a lot.

>>74790217
So you still haven't answered... what's some modern jazz that you like?

>>74790506
Thanks, anon

>>74790284
Listen to the track "nope"

>>74790515
Henry Threadgill's Zooid is a great group

>>74790729
>Listen to the track "nope

Listening now. It obviously has a back beat, but other than that what makes it hip hop?

Also that's one 5 minute track out of an hour long album.

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I like the varying levels of intensity, experimentation and use of guitars and other influences from different genres.

>>74789375
John Abercrombie- Cat n Mouse

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Similar to Dolphy's Out to Lunch, the piano swapped for vibraphone infinitely helps the compositions out here, and the album almost always feels as if it's floating; definitely a 10/10 jazz album for me

>>74791725
Thanks, anon

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Honestly, I've been really digging the Time series of albums by The Dave Brubek Quartet. I love the unusual grooves that it has overall, kinda makes me wonder what a fusion between cool jazz and math rock would be like.

Since some people are asking/have asked for some recent records' links, here they are.

Starting with the couple that have already been shared in the past:

The Necks - Unfold (2017, 320kpbs)
>Free improvisation, Avant-Garde Jazz, Ambient, "post-minimalism"
https://mega.nz/#!Ms1QDaaK!WsIr_FdT8BR9U1ZnSZ0-6s7h0l2hbtRzyzroPW9jDWQ

Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3gmyJGBMgY


Vijay Iyer Sextet - Far From Over (2017, Web FLAC)
>very groove centric post-bop
https://mega.nz/#F!ZtYTTD4B!RMxDHUGvnVDVugtVNi0O2A

Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7hHAQOopho

As for stuff I am gonna newly share:

Maria Schneider Orchestra - The Thompson Fields (2015, 320 kbps)
>Classical influenced big band like Ellington or Gil Evans. AllAbout Jazz 5/5, Downbeat Reader's Poll AOTY 2015, Grammy Award for best Large Ensemble Jazz 2017
https://mega.nz/#F!glFiGAQD!ynHya0o-cfRegy5ltfw2Fg

Samples (they are excerpts): http://www.mariaschneider.com/albuminfo.aspx?ID=1007

Trio 3 - Visiting Texture (2017, FLAC and 320 kbps)
>free jazz trio focusing on interesting approach towards textures in jazz
https://mega.nz/#F!Rt1QWIIJ!fX1w9QwaFvB3h4F02T8B9A

Sample: https://intaktrec.bandcamp.com/album/visiting-texture

Baptiste Trotignon & Yosvany Terry - Ancestral Memories (2017, 320kbps)
>Yosvany Terry continues his "combine jazz with Afro-Cuban music" route this time in a quartet ensemble; Terry in general is loved a lot by more frequent /jazz/ posters as well
https://mega.nz/#F!x8EzDDyY!b2yf3p6UxsEsqf7H-na2Aw

Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK6Nt-Qr4JE

>>74792364
good post

Do you guys have any idea why jazz is more emotionally restrained than blues and rock, say?

Is that important to perform most jazz well, as it's more complex, as a rule, than the other genres I mentioned?

This is specially easy to notice in the guitar playing.

>>74793034
In what way is it more emotionally restrained than those genres?

>>74793034
This isn't true at all though. It just takes a very different approach towards displaying emotion than pop music genres. I understand to an extent why people say this about classical and jazz so much, but it's just not true, and if anything it's subjective. A normie might find the most emotional enjoyment from a radio pop track that you might think is vapid, the same way for example...I personally think that classical, jazz, and certain experimental/ambient forms of music are the best at portraying emotion in music because they are stuck to restrictions that pop music genres like blues and rock are, but you may not look at it that way.

>>74793148
I think it's more subtle. There are fewer screaming climaxes.

>>74793213
Not saying that as a negative thing, quite on the contrary for my current tastes.

That said, I could be wrong. I'm new to jazz.

>>74789916
Obviously no

>>74790140
Because it isn't true? Name a single case of this happening.

>>74793213
>>74793253
They are *not stuck to the restrictions that pop music genres are. But yeah you're definitely new if you think that.

>>74792055
>makes me wonder what a fusion between cool jazz and math rock would be like.

Ever heard of Tortoise and Isotope 217?

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First album I've heard from Nina. Compositions were beautiful, I love Nina's voice and she's a wonderful piano player. I don't think there's a single bad track on here.

Strings are just an added bonus because I love string sections.

Favorite track was Porgy, I Is Your Woman Now

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complex without ever becoming self-indulgent. i love the complex rhythms and the atonal passages.

>>74793299
There are three examples of black artists in the first post.

For an example of how non black artists are received just look at what people in this thread are saying about Vijay Iyer.

>>74793629
Not that other guy, but I hope you aren't serious. Black guys like Kamasi, Glasper, Hancock/Davis' 80s/90s careers, etc. have all gotten shit as well for being corny gimmick trash as well as non-black artists in jazz.

>>74793739
Because none of the artists that you mention are making/made complex or technically advanced music

i was just listening to idle moments by grant green
im not very good at describing music, especially jazz
the guitar was really cool though, makes me excited to practice

>>74793854
The initial post said complex, technical, OR unique sounding jazz. They definitely go into the unique sounding aspect with all of them being some example or another of adding some gimmicks to jazz. But if you want an example that's still technical, there's Pharaoh Sanders' mid career stuff right before his poppier/chiller late career stuff where the lame pop influences were already coming in but what he played was still technical. Or that Feldspar record Matana Roberts is on.

Not to mention works from non-blacks ranging from classics from guys like Stan Keton, Dave Brubeck, Bill Evans, Peter Brotzmann, etc. to modern day examples like Alex Sipiagin, Rudresh Mahanthappa (he's indian and he doesn't do corny!), Maria Schneider who all make very complex music that's highly regarded.

You should probably pay attention to the music itself instead of making broad generalizations. That way you'll realize that the new Iyer record isn't actually all that complex/technical either, in fact I personally am not about it because of how much the album relies on repeated phrases and simplistic groove centered only drumming that doesn't allow for much variety/creativity for the rhythm section.

>>74794121
>Stan Keton, Dave Brubeck, Bill Evans, Peter Brotzmann, etc. to modern day examples like Alex Sipiagin, Rudresh Mahanthappa

I've seen people post variations of "academic bullshit killing jazz" or "not real jazz" about every single one of those artists

I guess though that none of them were you, so feel free to disregard that original post since it wasn't directed at you

>>74794293
That's bullshit. Brubeck's album Time Out is one of the best selling jazz albums of all time and also has some of the highest view numbers for something jazz related on YouTube as well. Even Brotzmann, who has his fair share of haters, aren't into him because of his reliance on just abrasive timbres not because muh academic bullshit. Sipiagin and Mahathappa's approaches are also relatively close to conventional post-bop styles as well, so I can't see anything related to academics or "not real jazz" about them. You gotta start posting some evidence my man, cuz I at this point me and others here wonder where you're getting this shit from.

>>74794351
lol you can choose not to believe me if you want but I promise you I've seen it before on /mu/

As I said before, feel free to disregard that post since it's obviously not directed at you

>>74794351
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/56609622/#56616410

>>74794351
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/48634890/#48634890

>>74794351
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/72828039/#72830443

>>74794351
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/54427165/#54433017

>>74780392
Haven't listened to this yet but I'm happy to see it's already stirring up some controversy.

Exactly what this dead general needs.

>>74794488
>>74794564
>>74794678
>>74794695
>>74794760
I think the Time Out one's a troll, and that the Brotzmann guy was just shitting on euro free jazz in general. Those other two might be the same exact person. But this does exist though wtf?

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Decided to check these guys out after a jazzbro ranked their latest release among his AotY contenders.
I got through it in one sitting, but I don't think I'll listen to it again. I like the timbres of all the instruments, the subtle electronic elements, and the broken hi-hat grooves. I just prefer more rhythmically and/or harmonically complex stuff like Dawn of Midi.

>>74792364
Do you have other Yosvany Terry's albums?

>>74795227
The necks suck, cracker jazz at its worst

>>74795227
Give the new album a try. It sounds very different from Open. Open is more straight up ambient-like, but I really like the new one, UNFOLD because despite also having some level of minimalist structure there's a lot more happening on it harmonically than most of these new "combine jazz with minimalism" guys.

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Another band I discovered because they have a recent new release. Really dug their 2010 album Horizon; currently spinning pic related and the good vibes continue.
I'm a sucker for this type of pensive, rock-flavoured Euro-jazz à la Lars Danielsson. These guys use many more odd time signatures than he does, which is a big plus for me.

>>74795339
Only Today's Opinion and New Throned King which should both be in the archives I believe.

>>74795363
I've found those, but the links are dead, because they were uploaded to zippyshare. Could you upload them to mega?

IM DRUNK FUCUK YUO< VIJAY IYER SUCKS

RIP JOHN ABERCOMRIBE

>>74795356
Sounds promising; will do.

>>74795359
A very highly regarded jazz, post rock band in their country, but virtually unknown outside of their hometown.

Playing notes in a whismical manner(P.Desmond East of the Sun)

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Daily Reminder: Vijay Iyer is corny bullshit. The Spelling Bee champion of Jazz . Don't let record companies and critics brainwash you, this is shit.

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The fact that coltrane released these albums so close and recorded them very close together as well really fuck me up. to me, all 3 of these albums are really his spiritual trilogy. Im not a religious man but listening to these albums back to back give me an intense spiritual feeling. It helps that all 3 are god tier, coltrane was the first man who made me say "is that a SAXOPHONE?"

>>74795465
Anyone?

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>>74779395
Who else /KAORU ABE/ here??????

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so why hasn't anyone said that a new Tim Berne album is out?

anyone heard this?

Just got into saxophone and have been listening to paul desmond, sonny stitt and sam rivers.

Can someone recommend me something similar to taxi driver's soundtrack by bernard herrmann? sad, depressing and dreamy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx4aK-YsPeU

>>74796741
Closest thing to listening to a train grinding to a halt this side of field recordings of trains.

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>>74795481
Holy shit. Didn't realise he's dead. I was only listening to his new record the other day.

Fuck, RIP.

>>74795620
>>74795481
>>74786592
Jesus Christ dude. Did Vijay Iyer rape your mother with an ear of corn or something?

>>74797734
Is that a good or a bad thing?

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Henry Grimes Trio - The Call
Quite refreshing for a free jazz album. The fact that Grimes goes for a pretty unconventional trio (bass/clarinet/drums) gives many opportunities for each player to show of their abilities. This is most prominent in the longer songs For Django and The Call. Tom Price has some insane drumming in these songs, but most noticeable is the interplay between the clarinet and the bass. The parts where Price calms a bit down (it can be quite overwhelming sometimes) and the bass follows the melody of the clarinet.
However, the album also makes it obvious that a bass/clarinet/drum trio is not the most diverse trio, and especially the shorter songs definitely lack in diversity. Even though it's just over 30 minutes, this can be quite a struggle to get through at some points

>>74798329
I mean, if you have to ask this question, it's probably a good thing for you.
I don't find it compelling.

>>74798398
Grimes has stuff as a leader? Cool.

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>>74797623

I think Bob Belden's Black Dahlia hits many of the same notes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3KDQWMoeEw

maybe also some of Krzysztof Komeda's soundtrack music might work for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtAm8UWRz_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nndpbvtmJZ8

some other albums to try:
Art Pepper - Winter Moon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQPh4f9wrqk
Tom Harrell - Paradise (nothing on YouTube, but it's on Spotify at least)

in the soundtrack realm there's of course also Jerry Goldsmith's Chinatown soundtrack - it has some jazzy moments in it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsQC4HPruDQ

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i went in with high expectations because i knew nothing about it. not only was i horribly disappointed but i fucking loathed this album.
it's mind numbing simpleton garbage and there's not a redeeming thing about it.
wow miles, you fucked up on this one m8.

>>74798441
thank you so much, appreciated

>>74798310
Apparently "corny" is the latest in the old /mu/ tradition of meaningless "criticisms" used by people who care more about image than about music

>>74798539
we got a corny nigga over here.

>>74796846
finished this - a little disappointed that it basically sounded like all other Snakeoil -band albums. Berne is really starting to sound repetitive with his compositions

>>74795465
>>74796436
Yeah I gotchu. Sorry I kinda passed out after last night's fight and wasn't able to upload them then.

Yosvany Terry - Today's Opinion (2012,320 kbps)
>very technical Afro-Cuban/Latin Jazz with mostly traditional jazz instruments with the occasional African percussion and vocal bits; if you like John Coltrane, Terry's saxophone playing is for sure worth checking out here
https://mega.nz/#F!55FXXQ7I!KZ4cfR1ZW-lhf0rPpSx0xw

Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1O7QA-gNBc

Yosvany Terry - New Throned King (2014, 320kbps)
>Afro-Cuban jazz with an even more obvious influence of African music since the African percussion is there throughout the album this time around; has some spoken word poetry stuff going on, too among the instruments at times
https://mega.nz/#F!Fg9z1JyQ!xak0F_JOIrhIKIAUZiJ5AQ

Sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSw2FDnr4FA

>>74799757
I like Today's Opinion but what does Terry have to do with Coltrane?

>>74800049
I feel that people who have never listened to the guy but like Coltrane's technical yet fluid feel may like Terry as well who's also very technical yet fluid on the sax even though he approaches it from a very different direction particularly in terms of note choices, certain rhythms, and of course Terry's composition style as well.

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>hurr durr let's play loads of notes that aren't fun to listen to at all over 7 chords and major to minor changes
>muh difficulty over quality

Fuck jazz it's fucking gay

>>74800163
Fair enough. I guess I just don't hear that much similar in their styles

>>74800315
This better be one lazily formed bait.

>>74784919
Get out.
>>74786592
His music is barely even technical wtf are you talking about

>>74800049

sounds like an odd comparison to me too, but got me thinking about where that Criss-Cross'y contemporary post-bop style of sax playing came from anyway

I don't think there's anything in 60's or earlier that would really work in "if you liked X, you'll like Yosvany Terry/Miguel Zenon/someone like that". Maybe Michael Brecker is the missing link from older styles to this?

>>74800567
I guess composition-wise you get a lot of rapid key changing stuff that is similar to the Coltrane substitution stuff on Trane tunes like Giant Steps and Countdown, so there's that

Can someone tell me what the song @ 3:18 is?

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I thought this album was amazing. It really stood out for me in terms of jazz albums . The Clown song was a really unique experience, using the instruments as sound affects while someone narrates a story was great.

Would recommend

>>74779395
>prove you're not a pleb
>listens to jazz
my sides are gone

>>74780274
Wes Montgomery had nine children and worked overtime at the factory as well as being a recording artist with occasional performances in order to make ends meet. The A&M releases such as this one is an overworked man just trying to make extra cash.

>>74789714
Maria's fucking awesome. I prefer Evanescence to her later work though. It has the same kind of orchestration style but the compositions seem to be a bit more sharp on the edges. Just my opinion.

>>74801126
I'll definitely check it out, then since like that end of review says, I just copped her other records though haven't had time to start on them yet.

>>74793333
No, but damn if I'm not interested in them.

Been making my way through the Funked Up East yt channel. Soooo, last album I listened to was Kuryokhin's The Ways of Freedom. What a crazy-ass album and what a fucking player.

>>74800567
I think Terry and Zenon really kind of come from different areas anyway actually.

To me Terry's alto playing comes a lot more from the Jackie McLean/Ornette Coleman kind of thing.

Zenon's got such a warm, smooth tone, but plays with so much technique that I'm not sure there's much of a 60's comparison to be made except maybe to guys like Lee Konitz or Paul Desmond.

I'd say though for both Terry and Zenon that the missing link between the 60's stuff and what they're doing is Kenny Garrett and to some extent Steve Coleman.

>>74800770

Here is a better link and on YT

https://youtu.be/Oo5vKl8kDZo

I'm a jazz pleb and I would be grateful if you could rec me some stuff. I listened to the classics like Miles Davis, Coltrane, Evans etc. but while its pleasurable what I'm cut out for is stuff like The Necks, Fire! / Fire! Orchestra, Supersilent, etc. I especially like The Necks (saw them live!) because of those tracks where they're creating absolutely massive landscapes with endless barrages of piano notes (Rum Jungle, Blue Mountain...). Any more stuff like that? So far I've found nothing which is why I come here.

>>74802984
That's understandable as the atmosphere mood based approach of the latter is much easier to digest than the more intricate moving parts of the former. It's also why a lot of people like Sun Ra since a lot of his playing is simple yet he uses unconventional sounds to do said playing. At some point I would recommend revisiting those, but for now, check out:

Tigran Hamasyan, Arve Henriksen, Eivind Aarset, Jan Bang – Atmosphères
Sun Ra - Atlantis
LAM - s/t
Colin Stetson - New History Warfare Vol. 2: Judges
Don Cherry - Eternal Rhythm
Miles Davis - On The Corner

Tigran Hamasyan is kinda the current "it" guy in terms of doing the complex time signature barrage of piano notes to create atmosphere thing. Really anything period from him you probably would like.

>>74802984
How about recommendations from Chick Corea?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDNU2ArwiS8

>>74802984
Interesting that you've started with avant-garde jazz and free improvisation. Here are some recommendations:
Peter Brötzmann
John Zorn
The Jazz Composer's Orchestra
AMM - AMMMusic (there's are brief string section passages between the cacophony of prepared guitar and transistor noises, as well as atonal saxophone solos, which aren't found on their later albums, hence the recommendation)
Dewan Motihar Trio / Irène Schweizer Trio / Manfred Schoof / Barney Wilen - Jazz Meets India
Rahsaan Roland Kirk - Prepare Thyself to Deal With a Miracle
Arthur Blythe - Lenox Avenue Breakdown

>>74803553
>>74803930
thanks senpaitachi I'll be sure to check it out

>>74804257
well I come from ambient/drone/experimental electronics background so it was the most natural progression; though I have to say free jazz is straight up too much for me and even noise is more bearable to me than that still...
thanks as well of course

>>74804312
>free jazz is straight up too much for me and even noise is more bearable to me
Start with AMM's debut and John Zorn then. Still removed from accessible though.

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