Why have there been so many Taylor Swift threads today?

Because she just announced a new album and will be premiering a new song tonight, ya dingus

>>74743293
I see you're new here, friend

We've decided to kick out all the "Taytay" faggots, so yeah there's a bit of a civil war at the moment.

>garbage
awwww baby's first bait. cute!

>>74743293
This board is done for, just move on.

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>>74743387
Taytay fags aren't that bad, at least they're mostly contained. Kick out Choaposter & Brandon, they're the ones shitting up the place & everyone keeps encouraging & enabling them on top of it.

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>>74743589
Oh and grimesposters need to go, too. Worse than choaposter, equally as bad as Brandon.

>>74743293
Marketing

>>74743629
If you have pathetic virgin beta waifu faggots, the marketing is free.

>>74743640
ding ding ding

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>>74743640
We do it for freeeeeeee! :3

Anons, make sure to go buy Paramore's latest album, After Laughter, a New Wave-influenced Pop Rock masterpiece that includes hits such as "Hard Times" and "Told You So", deep cuts like "Grudges" and "Idle Worship", and even Paramore's most experimental material yet with the track, "No Friend", which incorporates Spoken Word, Neo-Psychedelia, and Post-Punk.

Hey don't forget alice glass you guys

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>>74743293
Today, I will remind them.

Taylor Swift makes better music than Led Zeppelin did.

Compare:

https://youtu.be/e-ORhEE9VVg
Concise, better hook, better singing, better melodies, clear lyrical development and vocal /melodic layering, fun to sing along with, doesn't take the subject matter too seriously,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPvNqOb6RA
Long-winded, nonsensical lyrics, melodramatic vocals, cheesy flutes, overly-long buildup laden with boring cymbal rides with an underwhelming payoff, eyeroll-worthy guitar solo.

Taylor Swift > Led Zeppelin

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*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP*

>>74744003
Max Martin is a great songwriter, I agree.

>>74744003
>Long Winded
Cant handle a long song?
>Nonsensical lyrics
bullshit
>Melodramatic vocals
Taylor Swift is the definition of Melodramatic
>Cheesy flutes
What??
> overly-long buildup laden with boring cymbal rides with an underwhelming payoff, eyeroll-worthy guitar solo.

Short attention spam eh?

>better singing
Taylor Swift is an awful singer.

>>74744125
Swift really is a very very mediocre singer. She is a bland pop 'star' who will be forgotten when her looks wear off. Creating a an album on a stupid twitter feud. Lemonade has more substance than this one.

>>74744078
He's quite gifted.

>>74744125
>Cant handle a long song?
I can when they're not boring and overblown. Example of a good, long, pop song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv-ffi2hkTQ
>bullshit
Convincing retort.
>Taylor Swift is the definition of Melodramatic
This is incorrect, but in the context of Blank Space she is acting out a *parody* of how her image in the eyes of people re: her relationships exists outside of her actual self due to her music. It's melodrama made to point out that her seeming melodrama was just that. This is good, self-aware satire. Led Zep comes off as overblown because they take their melodrama seriously.
>Short attention spam eh?
Not at all.
>Taylor Swift is an awful singer.
Really sizzles the bacon, doesn't it ?

IF YOU DONT WORSHIP TAYTAY GET OFF MY FUCKING BOARD

>>74744328
Have you not listened to songs like Better than Revenge or Haunted or I Knew You Were Trouble?

She is Melodramatic and you know it

>>74744328
>>74741560

>>74744392
I'm willing to concede she can be melodramatic, but in the sense of being "the definition of melodrama" it's false. Just typical redditor / dadrocker / plebeian slander.

>>74744418
Neat. Your point ?

>>74744479
>Neat. Your point ?
In another thread, not entirely unrelated at that.
>>74741817

>>74744545
Again: your point ? We're talking about pop music (specifically pop music aimed at appealing to the widest audience possible). Where did complexity become relevant ?

>>74744584
>Where did complexity become relevant ?
The intent is what's the issue. And the abundant and incessant cliches. Suicide's debut isn't exactly a musically complex record either, but we all know how that one is regarded.

>>74744622
>The intent
I'll stop you right there, bud. We're getting into "authenticity" and mind-reading territory.

You're discussing radio pop. The intent is (generally) to create a song directed enough to not seem aimless but ambiguous enough to allow for self-insertion and broad empathic resonance. The "intent" is to get people to listen to it in order to sell it in order to make money. It's a product.

Criticizing a product for being an efficient product is obtuse. Don't be obtuse.

>>74744736
>The intent is (generally)
I'll stop you right there, bud. We're getting into "authenticity" and mind-reading territory.

>not him btw

>>74744736
>I'll stop you right there, bud.
Why? We all know this is true:
>It's a product.
Great, so don't even pretend to treat it as anything but.

>>74744758
Doesn't apply. Talking about the "intent" of an individual vs. the "intent" of a business system is not comparable.

I'm describing a business system, the other poster is using magical powers to read minds from afar. See the difference ?

>>74744793
>Great, so don't even pretend to treat it as anything but.
All art is a product by definition. Radio pop is simply more efficient at making music and making those emotional connections you so awkwardly try to attribute levels of authenticity to. You are arguing a moot point.

>>74744843
>Radio pop is simply more efficient at making music and making those emotional connections
By appealing to the lower common denominator. Again, we all know this is true and why do I still have a sense of you trying to glorify it?

>>74743601
at least brandon announces it's him so I can just not take it seriously ever

>>74744861
Lowest*

>>74744861
>By appealing to the lower common denominator.
You seem to be under the impression that this is somehow less noble than swaddling your music in layers of pretense.

You are upset because there is a scientific mode of thought being applied to this form of art for the purpose of making money. I see nothing wrong with this and respect the method.

>why do I still have a sense of you trying to glorify it?
...because you're insecure ? I don't see anything wrong with skilled people making money based on their skills.

>>74744911
>You are upset because there is a scientific mode of thought being applied to this form of art for the purpose of making money. I see nothing wrong with this and respect the method.
I see nothing wrong with making money either, but I can only respect Max Martin, Ralph Murphy, etc. as successful businessmen who are able to constantly deliver a product which makes a profit.

>>74744967
This is somehow different from other music in your mind ?

>>74744911
Taylor Swift? skilled?
most of her songs are just 4 basic chords. I don't think you can call her a skilled person.

>>74744998
>This is somehow different from other music in your mind ?
Isn't it in yours too? Stop pretending.

>>74745007
You are mistaking "skill in composing complex music" for the infinite other ways a musician can be skilled.

>>74745016
I don't draw arbitrary lines in my head for which modes of success are "authentic" or not, so...

>>74745062
>I don't draw arbitrary lines in my head for which modes of success are "authentic" or not, so...
You realize what I'm talking about perfectly well, but you're being deliberately dense. Nothing I can do about that.

>>74745062
and in what way is she skilled?
She is an average singer, with average looks, probably has a whole management team behind her just like her peers so I won't appreciate her marketability.

>>74745096
>You realize what I'm talking about perfectly well,
Clearly I suspect your entire way of valuing music is based on pretentious mind-reading, however because you seem completely incapable of communicating what goes on in your head (if anything at all) we have reached an impasse. Don't blame me because you can't make words good.

>>74745133
Since you're baiting for a response you already expecting - is there anything different in the music of Schoenberg, Webern, Ornette Coleman as opposed to the music of Grimes, Adele and Taylor Swift for example?

>>74745187
You're already*

>>74745111
She won a grammy nine years ago and has stayed consistently relevant and profitable this entire time.

You could call it "people skill" or "persuasive skill" to remain relevant so long and create songs that so many people (correct or not) find deep and self-insertable. Or you could just call it artistic skill. Which it is.

>>74745217
what books should i read to become as smart as you friendo

Reminder that Friendo is a troll and should be filtered.
Quit giving it (you)s you niggers.

>>74745262
Not to mention that he's helped this board finally get ruined beyond repair.

>>74743293
BRAAAAAAAAAAP

>>74745217
>songs that so many people (correct or not) find deep and self-insertable.
whiny songs on heartbreak that sound like they've been inspired by a YA novel. You cannot label them as 'deep' songs.
(you don't need to use a thesaurus here btw.)

>>74745187
Other than being crafted in an academic environment where the modes of success are generally different than those of a purely commercial environment? Schoenberg made music for dark corners, Taylor makes music for stadiums.

>>74745239
Read "Autumn in the Heavenly Kingdom"

>>74745133
You talk like a pseudo intellectual college major. Shut the fuck up already cunt.

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11/10 the day the album is released
is the same day Kanye West's mother died
which is tied in to all his mental breakdowns over the years

>>74745292
It's fucking terrible. And people keep feeding it and enabling it.
Filters were made for shit like this.

>>74745319
I wasn't expecting a sensible response after my presumably final post in this thread. Thank you. I'm surprised to say the least.

>>74745346
>but muh taytay is so sweet and innocent and pure

>>74745335
Quit feeding it you queer

>>74745367

kanye deserves it
he's an asshole

>>74745316
>You cannot label them as 'deep' songs.
Maybe you can't because you might require aforesaid layers of pretense, but plenty of people can find depth in Tay. FRIENDO TIP: not everyone thinks like you !

>>74745335
I use simple words, calm down.

>>74745364
It's a good book, I'm reading it now. The Taiping Rebellion (genocide) doesn't get enough attention.

>>74745262
>>74745292
>>74745397
Guys, give it up. If people want to talk to me after four+ years of you telling them to filter me, maybe you should stop trying.

>>74745401
I agree that he's an asshole, but I don't think he deserves it. Giving someone shit for their dead mom is a lowblow, regardless of who it is.

>>74745401
I hope someone says the same thing to you when someone you love dies.
Christ, this boatd is full of teenagers.

>>74745407
>It's a good book, I'm reading it now. The Taiping Rebellion (genocide) doesn't get enough attention.
I was >>74745187.

>>74745443
Aww. I hope that guy reads the book.

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No I only listen to real musicians

People who actually like Taylor Swift here need to fuck right off
It's literally because p4k gave her a couple of half decent scores isn't it? Fucking drones.

>>74745467
I was thinking more along the lines of books about music, but thanks for the rec

>>74745427
>>74745432

as bad as a masochistic black man embarrassing you on stage, claiming to have made you famous, and talking about his desire to have sex with you in a song, even though he has a wife?

If anything Taylor's sorry for his mom for not aborting him.

>>74745562
I don't like Kanye but did he ever insult Taylor's family?

>>74745577

If you insult my daughter, you insult me & my family.

>>74744017
posts like this actually turn me the fuck on

>>74745538
Oh yeah.

Beyond the Dream Syndicate - Branden W. Joseph
Ideas and Styles in the Western Musical Tradition - Douglass Seaton
Silence: Lectures and Writings - John Cage
Our Band Could be your Life - Michael Azerrad

pretty much any music history textbooks that you find secondhand as well as random papers and articles

>>74745346
intentional or not, that's gonna trigger the fuck out of his paranoia. what a cold bitch lmfao

>>74745427
>>74745432
who the fuck cares about their mom? it's just a mom. maybe it's like losing a pet or something but c'mon you can have a little fun right? lol

>>74745616
Jesus Christ you're a faggot.

>>74745562
Why do you even care about famous people who don't even know you exist?

>>74743293

I'll give Tay-Tay Jinx card and I'll trade her for Gaga.

All we hear is radio Google! I think I'll name this planet Google Earth or Planet Google because they will take over the other companies really quick, after the deal I have for them.

Imagine babe, an offer they can't refvse.

Hushband-O, Strategy then O-Cast and you have the best guitar ever build-

>>74745111
She's a great songwriter. State of Grace, Holy Ground, Forever & Always, The Story of Us, Speak Now, etc.

And even Clean (i.e. the best song in 1989) was written by her. She worked with Imogen Heap for that one but this is what she says about it:
>Heap praises the experience, but shares, "I have to be honest here and say that I ever so slightly had not done my homework on Taylor Swift but had done what I HATE others do of me, which is to pre-judge a person based on assumptions. I had assumed Taylor didn't write too much of her own music (as is the case with many young, extremely successful artists these days who sell a shed load of records), and was likely puppeteered by an aging gang of music executives."

>"Felt I wanted to share the experience, as it was a special one. I've also been reading the odd report or tweet here and there that the reason the lyrics to 'Clean' are so good is because I wrote the song with her but FOR SURE they are all hers she deserves all the credit!"

>>74743293
I don't like her music that much but I really want to cum into her womb.

>>74743293
I just really enjoy fapping to all the songs in 1989

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I love her! <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

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>>74747760

I heard it through the grapevine Lawliet, no longer she will be mine.

Sorry, 0day can happen to anyone.

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Taylor is the 2nd most popular on twitter, right after Barack Obama.

Katy Perry & Justin Bieber have a bunch of fake followers. Pathetic.

>>74748526

I want roses in my garden, dig? Emeralds, Rubies, precious stones like Jade, Obsidiana.

Many swans and gondolas, Bengala Tigers.

>>74745346
based desu

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What does Tay Tay smell like?

>>74743506
>unironically listening Taylor Swift
lmao, I honest to god these threads were just for posting SFW erotica

>>74744584
complexity is associated to quality in music, but I know you're gonna disagree so I'll just call you what you are, a pleb, good day :)

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>>74748735
She farts a lot, so I'm guessing like farts

>>74743293
obvious shills, I can't believe there are still people here who deny this happens on here

>>74747760
I enjoy your smug Eboshi

>Reminder that she's releasing it on the 10th anniversary of Kanye's mom's death.

>>74748798
>complexity is associated to quality in music,
...no, no it is not. This is patently false.

>pleb
Literally a patrician god.

>>74743601
Grime posters are the cancer of /mu/, i actually enjoy her music but overall her fans are atrocious.

>>74744003
still an embarrassing opinion friendo

It's a normie board.

In sidereal astrology she's the rare sign of Ophiuchus.

Ophiuchus is Greek for “serpent bearer”.

http://siderealist.com/index_ophiuchus.html

>>74745217
Is kind of true. She came out at the same time as Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, and Lady Gaga, but they've all fallen off the radar. She's outlasted all of them.

>>74751160
>She came out at the same time as Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, and Lady Gaga
They all came out as gay?

>>74750656
.

>>74744363
this desu

where is the live thread

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>>74744363
if you dont worship Tay Tay,

YOU AINT WORTH SHIT
THATS THATS A WRAP FOR YA'LL

>>74751160
I think Rihanna is the only other of that late 2000s pop star group to still be relevant?

>>74751338
Let's make it >>74750417

>>74751160
I'm lyling at how Nicki Minaj proved to be essentially a one album wonder kind of like Cyndi Lauper.

>>74751468
In popular music, few artists stay around long. Think of all the dadrockers like McCartney and the Stones who had multi-decade careers as relevant artists, and think of all their contemporaries like Herman's Hermits who lasted a year and a half at most.

Look at a chart for 1986. How many of the artists on there were still relevant in 1994?

>>74751375
Grimeth, if you want to get less commercial.

https://twitter.com/GMA/status/900853605711982592/video/1

the single is either called TOMORROW or ABOUT TO EXPLODE

>>74751541
>Look at a chart for 1986. How many of the artists on there were still relevant in 1994?

U2 I guess. Megadeth? Sonic Youth?

>>74751541
>hink of all the dadrockers like McCartney and the Stones who had multi-decade careers as
You can't kill them off either. No matter how many punk rock bands come out, they'll still manage to come up with a Mull of Kintyre or a Miss You.

the single is called

ABOUT TO EXPLODE

https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-about-to-explode-lyrics

>>74751638
kinda funny to hear this voice-over about a Swift song. Usually he is talking about serious world news

>>74751671
Megadeth and Sonic Youth stopped being any good after 1990 anyway.

>>74751710
Did she convert to islam?

>>74743293
Dude /mu/ has terrible taste in music.
Some long haired dude with glasses tripped over a guitar once and now listens to swans and neutral milk hotel and comes here to brag about it. Tsylor swift would only be the next natural step for these gigaplebs
Go figuere

>>74751708
The Stones' marketing machine is nothing short of impressive.

>KOB sells 2 million copies
>a bunch of guys in their 70s at that

>>74751780

about to explode on KANYE

>>74751817
Some professors of marketing actually use them as a case study for how to keep a brand from stagnating.

She just has the right combination of catchy radio hits that avoid slutpop, so they appeal to a wide range of people.

>>74751598
>relevant
>shilling on 4chan all day

>>74751817
Their fans are old rich doctors and lawyers with ponytails who still buy CDs.

>>74751956
The last Springsteen album sold less than 30,000 copies. You think if he also had old rich boomer fans who still bought CDs that...

>>74751710

site just changed the song title:

LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO

https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-lyrics

>>74752010
>I’ll be scribing this if it’s the official title

So, unconfirmed.

>>74752092
>https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-look-what-you-made-me-do-lyrics

Radio 1 says the new single is called Look what you made me do.

GMA says the new music video they will show a sneak peak of tommorrow is called About To Explode

might get 2 tracks one after the other

or maybe its two songs in one?

GET READY FOR THE NEXT STEP IN MUSIC FRIENDS

>>74752239

They're saying the single is about to explode as in getting popular

http://taylor.lk/reputation-iT
http://taylorswift.com/

Title confirmed for "Look What You Made Me Do"

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its official


i hope its as mad and angry as it looks

POST IT TAYTAY

POST THAT SHIT

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it's happening!

>>74752321
>GET READY FOR THE NEXT STEP IN MUSIC FRIENDS
Unless she does what Scott Walker did, then no.

>>74752439
SHE WILL

>>74752439
i assume you mean paul walker, retard

https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=1274999981&app=itunes&ls=1

It's apparently up, but I'm PC Master Race and was smart/dumb enough not to install iTunes.

it's on spotify and apple music

>>74752496
https://open.spotify.com/album/6zOWPakelVDXWeGAiOJXb2

WHAT IS THIS JUGGALO SHIT

>>74752466
I doubt she'll kill herself.

SHE WENT MINIMAL BRAAPS
A BIT LATE FOR THAT BITCH

This is like 2009 Black Eyed Peas tier. What a fucking disaster, and this is coming from someone who liked Red and 1989.

>>74752463
Sure thing buddy. He started by hyping and releasing singles in his later career too.

surprise, it's shit

it's only 3:31 long...wtf?


i thought it would be 8+ minutes


the song is really fucking good.... it will sell well

IS SHE TRYING TO PULL A YEEZUS?
FUCK THIS IS BAD

THIS IS LIKE DISNEY TRYING TO BE EDGY

>>74752567
lmao the chorus sounds like fergie

i really like it

wat the fuck is wrong with you guys?

>>74752627
shit taste faggot

>>74752585
>i thought it would be 8+ minutes
That's why you don't trust the Internet.

>>74752627
you're not allowed to take a song for what it is on /mu/. you're also not allowed to like music.

>>74752466
Can you blame him? Walker is known for dying and not much else.

>>74752651
someone's bitter af

not a fan desu, and I'm a taylor hater

are those death grips influences i hear?

>>74752682
listen to more music you shit

bops desu

my reaction to the song: .

>>74752439
https://youtu.be/3K0RzZGpyds
Continuing his legacy I see.

it's better than any thing katy perry has done

>>74752750
lol

the remixes on this song are going to be bad ass

If you don't like the chorus.............
fuck off!!!!!!!!!!

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>>74751730
>thinking this isn't serious world news

F

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>>74752672
i've mostly stopped coming to /mu/ because people feel take being "patrician" too seriously. in reality, the only real patrician is someone who can hear and enjoy most music. pic related is how i feel on /mu/ when i drop in.

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New single is iffy.

eeh, not my favorite

It was posted on sharemania

>>74751541
similarly, a 2005 chart looks very different from a 1995 chart

This is really amazing!
I want to see what she has up next.

>>74752608
>implying Disney fails when they go into dark territory
The Hunchback of Notre Dame which is arguably Disney's darkest animated film, even if it's rated G, is one of their best.

Also, it was a huge deal when Disney started making their first PG-rated animated films since The Black Cauldron and targeting them more to teenagers with movies like Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet, both of which are also recognized as some of Disney's best and some of their most underrated, even if both of them were huge box office bombs.

Their first venture into making PG-rated animated films, which is The Black Cauldron is their biggest bomb and is often hated by Disney fans and critics but it has a solid fandom and it's actually pretty good, desu.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Treasure Planet are two of my most favorite animated Disney films, by the way.

Hopefully, I won't derail the thread.

>>74753270
Because he totally meant mid 90's disney and not current year diseny.

Grew on me fast. After the shock of the first listen, it's actually pretty damn catchy.

>>74753321
All of the Second Renaissance Disney films are rated PG except for Meet the Robinsons, The Princess and the Frog and Winnie-the-Pooh even if most of them still could've got a G rating back in the '90s.

And there are some dark/violent scenes in the modern Disney films that would probably get it rated PG even back in the day.

Also, Atlantis: The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet were both made in the early-2000s.

yeah not the best single..

but Good morning america says that the first look for the new music video by Taylor is called...

ABOUT TO EXPLODE

https://twitter.com/GMA/status/900853605711982592

So she's releasing a music video & another song tomorrow apparently.

that might be a lot better than this

Can't wait for this to be in every movie trailer of the next year

>>74753462
I stand corrected, resident Disney expert.