The Killers Say New Rock Bands Aren’t as Popular Because They’re

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Just talk to her bro

>>74739846
no because Foo Fighters are still as popular as ever and they're still as uninspired and shit as ever too

Experts in mediocrity

>>74739884
>>>/r9k/

Finally, someone says it. It's the truth, all these new bands just suck. Sometimes they have the stage presence, sometimes they might even have good songs, but the fact is you need BOTH to survive in the industry. All the old rock guys keep making excuses like "file sharing harms the industry", or "rap is now the dominant form of music", but that only distracts from the real problem; and that is there aren't any interesting young talents who want to make a career out of rock music.

>>74739924
The irony is this is coming from "The Killers".

really i think the next wave of popular guitar music could come from that hipster p4k metal thing but it would need a booster shot and a few more bands.

Its easy to say "just be better" from up there brandon but its obvious the industry either acivly ignores or mocks rock music now even if you make amazing music

I posted this before and I'll post it again: Arena rock style needs to make a comeback. Not the music, just the idea of rock stars putting on a SHOW instead of just a couple of average looking dudes standing there and playing songs. It's a big reason why kids gravitate to rap, you don't see people like those every day. If someone were to combine the subversive, edgy styles of 90's/00's underground rock with the stage presence and charisma of a 70's rocker, they would make a *killing*.

>>74739894
>foo fighters
>as popular as ever
good joke

>>74739982
check out W.K.'s upcoming tour.

>>74739982
good point.

>>74739996
they are

Did shoegaze and what it inspired kill rock?

>>74739982
I think they should fuse grunge with shoegaze, take the sounds of nirvana, alice and chains, soundgarden, and pearl jam, give them an indie update but also giving those lifeless hipster faggots more punk and metal attitude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krb0SRKVQ2E

>>74740055
I think the hipster culture of thinking its cool to be a lifeless stump that thinks its cool to not want to be there also that success was bad is what killed it.

>>74740012
W.K. fucking sucks though.

>>74739959
Brandon knows that The Killers aren't as big as they were ten years ago. He's very humble in that regard. But when looking ahead, even I can see that popular rock music has grown stagnant. I don't think The Killers think Wonderful Wonderful is going to be a game changer by any stretch, but to admit that if "there was someone out there that fits this mold we'd be taking about it", they may be reflecting internally.

The Killers are one of my favorite bands, and to say I'm not excited about Wonderful Wonderful would be a lie, however, I don't expect it to be another Hot Fuss, or Sam's Town. I do however expect to enjoy it.

I feel like the last big rock band that people really listened to was nirvana

like are the killers even comparable to them for this guy to be saying shit like this? I don't think so desu

>>74740207
>like are the killers even comparable to them for this guy to be saying shit like this?

audience/popularity wise?
kind of

quality wise?
hell no

>>74740207
For an American rock band? They're huge. Probably one of the biggest in the last 10-15 years.

>>74740207
white stripes, killers, arctic monkeys.

I feel like people who think rock ended with nirvana are morons who dont like rock music

You can not even conceive of how big mr. brightside was in the 2000's because you were a sperm in your dads balls on 9/11

>>74739940
Don't commit the genetic fallacy, anon. The Killers may have said it, but they're still correct.

>>74740260
I just said it was ironic, I didn't say they were wrong.

>>74740285
My mistake, sorry anon.

>>74740227
>>74740242
i figured they were pretty huge since I've been hearing their name more and more lately and yes specifically talking about American bands we all know Radiohead is still doing their thing

>>74740252
you actually think the white stripes and fucking AM are comparable to Nirvana in the 90s

kek

>>74740252
Not that Anon but 2/3 of those bands were shit. I remember "Mr. Brightside" vividly because it was always on the radio which made me want to kill myself way more than usual.

What rock is missing is that attitude.
It got infected by a effeminate yuppie hipster virus.

Look at grunge, it was lower class, harsh, dirty, and fun

Look at current rock music, a bunch of rich assholes from the coasts who act like they dont want to be there while they play generic jangle gaze pop

Lol, look at videos of cobain, dude was a numale faggot but he was getting into fights with bouncers, destroying his guitars, and daves drums, and moshing the fuck out

1. distinct sound
2. energetic attitude
3. distinct look


Modern rock is just so blah.

Needs some punk and metal attitude

>>74740252
>mr Brightside

This song has been on the UK rock chart at least once every year since 2003

>>74740302
almost forgot about Radiohead desu but they havent been a rock band since the Bends and no the Killers are nowhere close to the popularity of the 90s bands like nirvana, soundgarden, pearl jam etc. none of them

there a joke in comparison

>>74740302
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/pg78ky/the-killers-mr-brightside-not-left-uk-charts-since-2004

>>74740324
that's pretty much what I thought thanks

>>74740324
Also, the problem with Radiohead is that they suck.

>>74740344
(you)

>>74740344
That doesn't matter in this case. We're talking about popularity.

>>74740252
arctic monkeys are shit

>>74740314
I unironically agree. Rock needs a young, loud, high energy band that isn't blues rock or jangle pop.

Its over, let it go

Big band is dead too, no one is crying over that anymore, stop living in the past

>>74740314
100% agreed desu

>>74740360
True.

>>74740425
I can never understand this idea that rock should be completely abolished and stopped, it feels so negative. Like there arent people making jazz and classical music still.
What exactly do people even get out of hating rock music so much

>>74739884
This is what people say to me but I'm actually a fucked up junkie for life that will never calm down :(

>>74740080
that's swervedriver m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Aeq_6dxA9U

>>74739846
Good rock musicians were never popular, tho.

>>74740207
mr brightside was fucking huge.

>>74740055
grunge killed rock

>>74740080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRdZS9j5atY

>>74740311
It wasn't just Mr Brightside. Somebody Told Me, Smile Like You Mean It, All These Things That I've Done.. Four hit singles from side A of your debut. Last time tat happened was....? Incubus was close, but not 4.

>>74740511
Mid 00s Emo killed rock

>>74740463
But no one is crying about it like you all are as if the world of music is over.

>>74740613
what is that even mean?
Wow, rock music fans wished rock music was successful again.

Is that crying about something?
Why is that a bad thing?

Fuck man, i can feel some massive faggot energy radiating off of you

>>74739884
Once you stop being a socially anxious faggot and talk to random girls just for the sake of it, you realize it's not that big of a deal. Sometimes I'll talk to a girl out of boredom and eventually hook up with her. And no I'm not a turbo Chad I'm an ugly manlet but nothing matters anyways so why not just get laid at least. Once you realize nothing matters you stop being a r9k/lookism fag and eventually get laid even though you're ugly.

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How would you produce and master rock music so that it sounds as vivid as today's EDM?

>>74740710
EDM today isn't "vivid" in any way except for the visuals it's just obnoxiously in your face

>>74740706
Tell me your ratio to girls talked to and girls you fucked

>>74739846
He's absolutely right. I think rock can make a resurgence soon.

>>74740314
Even if it's jangle pop or something, just being more agressive would definitely do it. The whole "chill" thing doesn't truly work unless everyone's tripping balls like in the 60's, and that's just not the current status quo.

I feel that for rock to truly take off again, it has to be able to provide something really energetic, not angry per se, but definitely energetic.

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>>74739846
same could be said about mormonism

>>74740314
>>74740408
>>74740428
>>74740835
it won't happen because

1) it's been done already for ~40 years
2) the audience isn't there anymore
3) in order to become popular in this era, you need a gorillion dollar budget aka you lose any sort of edginess young people might want

the attitude is in hip hop now, and the most popular edgy band are Death Grips. And how many people have heard of Death Grips? Only the ones who are into music, mainstream doesn't give a shit

>>74740891
>citing death grips as a popular edgy band
Get out more. There's a reason mainstream haven't picked up Death Grips.

Die Antwoord is way fucking bigger, and way more edgy. And that's just off the top of my head. Please stop conflating garbage, thanks.

>>74740965
That's trashy edgy, not dark edgy. ICP, Hollywood Undead, etc. aren't the "artsy" edgy that DG tries to be.

>>74740965
>>74740987

Being edgy is overrated and for 14-year old boys. Death Grips isn't edgy. They don't give a fuck. There's a difference and that's why they're cool. They didn't fall for the edgy meme.

>>74740710
What is the context behind this photo?

>>74740965
have you even read the rest of my post you fucking subhuman retard?

>>74741062
>Death Grips isn't edgy.
>They don't give a fuck.

That's an oxymoron. They ARE edgy. This is not arguable. And try ARE NOT creative or talented ENOUGH to capture the praise of the masses. While it is arguable that popularity does not equate to creativity or talent, it is often a good metric.

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>rock is not the most popular genre
>don't have to worry about normie scum infiltrating

What's wrong with this?

>>74741192
>NOT creative or talented ENOUGH to capture the praise of the masses

This is retarded. Nothing Death Grips ever makes would ever resonate with the masses. They don't make that type of music. Do you really think the only reason they aren't big is because they aren't talented? You're a fucking idiot.

>>74740710
Theres an edit where's there's multiple copies of Thom throughout the pic does anyone have it

>>74740965
Death grips are pretty popular among alt normies. All their songs have millions of views on YouTube

>>74741368
I didn't really say that. I said popular. Not big. The more people that like you, the more popular you are. If your music is niche and is targeted at a small demographic, you can't become as popular as someone shooting for everyone. ie, a "rockstar".

>>74739894
I've never met anyone who said they liked Foo Fighters, same as U2.

>>74741517
If you use /mu/, you do not hang out with the type of person who likes U2 or FF

>>74740252
also at the drive in and the mars volta

>>74741517
i know so many people who like foo fighters

>>74740408
ive read bios from so many new bands that always claim that and they end up getting nowhere

>>74739846

Basically. Rock isn't "in" for people. The people who would have wanted to start a band in the 90s are content playing whining acoustic sets on their guitar talking about love and shit. If not that, then they're trying to shill a mix tape. Full bands aren't popular anymore especially considering the price of instruments in this economy. There's no room for experimentation in a genre as old as rock. People are content listening to another Taylor Swift single or the next flavor of the month hip hop artist rapping over a sample about drugs and money and fucking. Melodies are old news.

>>74740252
i dont think any of my friends would know mr brightside
i dont think it got played at all where im from
human was a pretty big hit but a lot people dont even remember that
same thing with the strokes or even white stripes (even though everyone has heard seven nation army they dont usually know how its called or who made it)
meanwhile everyone knows nirvana

>>74740765
people have been saying that since 2008 let it go man its dead

>>74741646
thank you
this poster knows what's up
it sucks that rock is dead but it is

I like the Killers new stuff, sure it's not as cool as Hot Fuss but it's basically neo-Springsteen, who doesn't like Bruce Springsteen?

>>74741646
>Melodies are old news.
i'll kill myself if this is true

>>74741646
>>74741959
>Melodies are old news.
Not in pop!

>>74739846
>are we human
>or are we dancer

What did he mean by this?

>>74741663
Are you European because same

>>74741663
um.. sorry, who tf is nirvanda??

No rock just doesn't show up on Stacy's spotify random playlist. Ask young people what they're listening to on the street and most will say 'I don't know'

>>74740252
This Whatever People Say I am and Hot Fuzz were inescapable we've not had anything like it since but I'm holding out hope for the 1975 to become the next big thing.

>>74742392
yep

>>74739846
... The Strokes and Interpol and still around and nobody gives a shit. Same for the Killers

>>74740020
Even their die hard fans are disinterested in what they're doing.

rock has been garbage for the last 2 decades. nobody itt could even any post a good rock album.

I would say that at least in England its still considered cool to like rock music. Most young normies I know are still into oasis and modern shit like the Arctic monkeys

>>74742498
>the 1975
AHAHAHAHAHAH

>>74742808
the 1975 are good
kys

>>74742878
they have talent but I wouldn't call them good

more like a guilty pleasure

>>74742944
no they are good. only idiots with insecurity issues use words like guilty pleasures
pls off yourself
thx!

>>74742627
screaming females - ugly
DFA 1979 - you're a woman im a machine
whores - gold
noise rock has been doing pretty well for the last twenty years. Unsane has a new album coming out

>>74742960
nah they're a guilty pleasure

>>74742974
all of those are meh jfc.
they aren't even close to the level of a loveless or even daydream nation.

>>74741517
I like foo fighters

>>74742993
t.insecure fag
why don't you man up for once in your life.

>>74743025
Both these albums are extremely overrated

>>74743034
no you

>>74743049
i agree. and they are still 20x better than everything you posted.

>>74742627
>>74743025
Stick to rap music nu-male

>>74742878
i don't like a shitty wannabe rock band so i should kill myself? oh fuck you poptamist faggot

>>74743072
show me a modern band. making a great live tunes like this now faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7rFYbMhcG8

the quality of rock has gone down. because all you fags wanna do is self-hate yourself and be passive aggressive.

>>74743103
no you should kys because you were a mistake being born in the first place.

>>74743034
kys or man up make up yer mind child

>>74743138
do both pls. live stream it for my entertainment

>>74743072
post a link of a good modern rock band then

>>74743166
>>74743138
jfc kill yourselves unironically both of you

>>74743166
no i was talking about to you meantioning those things
so you first pop rock lover boy

>>74743187
you first?

>>74740366
You are shit.

>>74743197
>meantioning
honestly end your life. you can't spell worth a shit.

>>74743187
no no he should not me

>>74743209
>>74743209
make me

>>74743205
you and that other poster are both shit now fuck off and kys

>>74743236
>>74743263
just like rock music. pls stop leave society

Car Seat Headrest seems to be rising in popularity.

>>74743274
why tho?
cause you said so?

kek, i bet you can't even explain why i should.

>>74743314
manufactured time and place band, won't last.

>>74739846
I like the Killers, I know they're not as acclaimed or whatever but I still like them, and I agree

and the end of the day, it's so simple. Have. good. songs. That's it. That's why so many modern rock groups suck, they're just not good songwriters.

>>74743327
>cause you said so?
yes. now go and do it

>>74741646
>Melodies are old news

Agreed with you until here. You think people are listening to the next flavour of the month because of 'da beat' alone? Take Mask Off, that has a catchy melody that's memorable for a lot of people. Take any garbage Taylor Swift song or Katy Perry, as much as they suck they are catchy for most people. Melodies are the driving force of all popular music, rock, hip-hop, pop, whatever, all of it has to have something catchy to it for it to be popular with the masses.

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What the fuck happened to Cage The Elephant? They used to rock hard in their first album and they've turned so soft since then.

>>74743386
nah arguing with you is too fun :3
think i will stay and hear you get even more upset at me.

>>74739846
If I wanna make my 50 year old white suburban mother cry in 1992, what do I listen to? Probably Nirvana or some shit, maybe Spiderland if I'm a hipster fuck.

If I wanted to make my 50 year old white auburban mom cry in 2017, what do I listen to? Arcade Fire, who have recently come back to tell everyone how great ABBA was? Car Seat Headrest, so that I can go talk about how hard it is to suck cocks with my theater friends? No, I pick something like Tyler the Creator rapping about faggots and sex and niggas and all the things Puritain America still deems as unsafe for consumption.

There's your answer.

>>74739846
Today´s rock bands don´t have personality.

I mean, look at Judas Priest, they haved two guitar and no bass, fast and heavy songs and a very good vocalist.The band attitude was: The bad man with leather clothes.

Marilyn Manson bringed controversia with glamorous and heavy sounds with also very wounding lyrics and messages.

KoRn was that Nu Metal band that trascended for the guys aspect and combination of sounds.

SoaD is 4 armenian with songs that never sound the same and very but very fast changes in the rythm of the all.

Tell me a recent rock band that have a true personality and sound that is popular.

>>74743432
they never rocked
there was that one song about generation x and him slipping thru the cracks tho

wah wah wah

>>74743559
pretty much this, there's no more edginess to rock music, and metal is too hardcore for normies. For edginess, the only option is hip hop and even that is rare. Edginess today is not in music, but in video games and internet communities

>>74743356
nah
csh has the advantage of actually actually being one of the few new indie bands that are not manufactured
will has been making great albums for years and he had pretty big following before he got signed

>>74743726
only real ones know will has been shilling his shit on moo since 2012

>>74743744
it's honestly sad that people don't know CSH literally started here


too many newfags

>>74742498
Why are you holding out for Tumblr: the band?

>>74743577
Ur a faggot

>>74742878
Back to the Antifa rally with you, sweety.

>>74742878
Sure, and Linkin Park´s last record was the heaviest in their story...

>>74743854
what did you mean by this?

>>74743866
This kiddo´s wrong.

>>74739982

The problem is arena rock has been done to death. There have been plenty of hard rock bands that have emerged over the last decade or so, but they all just sound like a pale imitation of an older band. Why would you listen to Wolfmother when Led Zeppelin exist? Why would you listen to Airbourne when there's AC/DC etc.

>>74743807
i don't like that band thus i am a fag got?
okaay kys numale

>>74743884
ur a fag gottie
fagottie
kys cuck numale nigger nigga

>>74744041
Kek.

I´m not a goth btw.

>>74743936
thats the thing every band sounds like an older one wtf bands are not allowed to create new shit anymore thats why rock and guitar bands are dying

What ways is it even possible to innovate in rock?

>>74743744
>>74743779
i know that he gained most of his popularity here
i dont believe it was actually him posting it though

>>74741663
>>74742392

Same here

>>74744535
back in the 2011 /bandcamp/ days I was pretty sure it was definitely him but like you said I don't really know

>>74740314
Someone like Death Grips?

>>74744950
yes but for some reason death grips failed to break into the mainstream besides a few TV spots

>>74740965
Die Antwoord is more of a tongue in cheek parody of South African gangster culture, I can't believe many people are still falling for their gimmick. And also, they've marketed themselves as edgy instead of having an edgy lifestyle

>>74743111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ys7DKkXODQ4

>>74744971
>yes but for some reason death grips failed to break into the mainstream besides a few TV spots
ohh i wonder . why
>scammed their label because they told dg to wait a couple months b4 next release
>stopped coming to live shows
>penis on cover
>refuse to do interviews
>pretend to break up

the mainstream wants role models. thats the key my boy. dg isn't that. mac demarco success is all based on him being a role model for kids with no personalities

>>74745097
honeslly fuck mac demashit if it took ruining mainstream success caused DG to keep doing what they I'm all the more happy for it

>>74745127
dg is known by everyone. they just aren't listened to on the level of mac demarco. because of what i mentioned.

>>74740891
>3) in order to become popular in this era, you need a gorillion dollar budget aka you lose any sort of edginess young people might want

If this were 1988, you'd be saying you can't make it as a rock band without spending millions on costumes and doing MTV video shoots.

>>74744162
Rock is just 4/4 pop music played with guitars and a strong backbeat. You can't "innovate" by definition.

>>74743936
Nobody is saying you'd want to do AC/DC today, because they were a product of their time.

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This made me thinkin, Is rock culture will be a subgenre in the near future?

ah yes, the killers, a band i have always described as "rock", "innovative", "good".

>>74739846
No,

Do these guys even know who Gybe, DMST, Valley Of Giants are?

No, their music world revolves around top 40 indi hits.

And they are still wrong; Kanye is the new Bowie or whatever

>>74745251
I mean that in a mainstream sense. Most famous rock bands of the past were mainstream as fuck, nowadays that's impossible because the communities are too fragmented. I named Death Grips as an example of a band that's super popular with the nerds on internet, yet nobody gives a shit about them outside of the internet

>>74740177
Your fav band?

>>74745304
then the room for improvement would be math and post rock which don't have that much of an impact in the mainstream

4/4 is and always will be the most commercial musical measure in any genre

>>74740710
Get Phil Ek

A lot of people are failing to recognise there is more to do than music now.

In the 70's it was brand new memes. Even in the 90's there was fuck all to do but watch MTV and see new terminator.

Now people are smarter and dedicate their spare time to the myriad of superfluous shit you can do.

Some of the best rock bands wernt even on the charts, like the anon who mentioned post rock. The image in a weird way now is to not be over the top crap. That ship has sailed and that's for the rappers.

>>74740080

oath

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>>74741194

yeah true

>>74740366
they're really not though.

>>74739982
Isn't anthem EDM pop shit like Imagine Dragons really popular now

>>74742627
The Monitor - Titus Andronicus
...Like Clockwork - Queens of the Stone Age

>>74745454
>>74745454
Mine? Probably R.E.M.

Nice digits, btw

>>74743025
>>74743070
>if they arent as good as loveless or daydream nation they're meh
they're not even attempting anything like daydream nation or loveless. Not every album has to be a benchmark you daft cunt
Also les rallizes denudes released an album recently

>ROCK IS DEAD!!!!

Meanwhile, Paramore is still keeping it alive and well.

>>74740055
shoegaze was never relevant to that extent

>>74742498
you are young

>>74747135
so basically they release trash.

>>74741639
What are some of these bands anon

>>74743559
no you would listen to public enemy or dr dre in 92 your argument is a classic trap people fall into

>>74741517
Nigga I love Foo Fighters

>>74748027
hes still right tho.

>>74748063
semi

The irony of killers talking about bands that need to be good...

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>>74740314

>ROCK NEEDS TO GO BACK TO DOING WHAT IT ALREADY DID FOR 40 YEARS AND THEN IT WILL BE GREAT GUISE

yeah that kind of thinking is actually exactly what killed rock

>>74740080
>Fuse grunge with shoegaze...more punk and metal attitude
That's the Smashing Pumpkins

>>74739846
>If there was a band like the Strokes or Interpol, people would talk.
Only trust fund kids and rehasing music made in 1986 can save rock!

>>74745417
>Most famous rock bands of the past were mainstream as fuck, nowadays that's impossible because
Major labels stopped signing rock groups.

I believe he's right. Honestly the only group to gain my interest has been The 1975, but I easily find myself travelling to other genres without hesitation whenever I listen to any new rock records.

But man, the wigs-and-leather school of rock was already outdated in the 90s. If you grew up in the nu metal era as many of us did, nobody at that time still looked or sounded like the Scorpions or AC/DC.

>>74740425
>he isnt actively mourning big band
???

>>74750115
If you asked someone like Christgau, that overwrought 70s stadium rock sound was never good to begin with.

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"To my mind, this embracing of what were unambiguously children's characters at their mid-20th century inception seems to indicate a retreat from the admittedly overwhelming complexities of modern existence. It looks to me very much like a significant section of the public, having given up on attempting to understand the reality they are actually living in, have instead reasoned that they might at least be able to comprehend the sprawling, meaningless, but at-least-still-finite 'universes' presented by DC or Marvel Comics. I would also observe that it is, potentially, culturally catastrophic to have the ephemera of a previous century squatting possessively on the cultural stage and refusing to allow this surely unprecedented era to develop a culture of its own, relevant and sufficient to its times. I mean, I loved the music of the '60s. I loved the Beatles, the Kinks, and Cream. I wish music could sound like that forever, yet if it did, we would never progress as a culture."

I could argue that Korn were the last really innovative mainstream band, they completely dropped any lingering elements of Led Zeppelin and went for a sound based completely on oddball sfx and textures that had nothing to do with the blues/pentatonic scale.

>>74751010
Yes. Blues rock is tired and boring, we've heard it all before.

>>74750933
Break down the wall of text for me.

Seeing as rap is now statistically dominating popular music, is it time for a nu-metal revival?

>>74751172
That art and culture needs to represent the present. How the fuck can you make 1981's music in 2017? And why would you want to except to give a couple 50 year olds with graying mullets a nostalgiaboner.

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>>74739846
>The Killers say...

>>74750933
dis nigga know. shitpostin b da emerging culture y'all hoebags

choo choo
all aboard the pain train motherfuckers
next stop shit city

>>74749410
True, but imagine TSP with a lead singer who doesn't sound like a pubescent weasel and look like Nosferatu

>>74751941
nosferatu look coo niqqa wut u talkin bout

Gene Simmons said that attitude is missing from bands now and only rappers still manage to be edgy.

>>74751941
WE MUST NEVER BE APART

>>74743936
I'm saying, rock can be done today but it has to have today's attitude and feels, not what was popular during the Reagan years.

>>74743400
Today's melodies are a lot more "bite sized", based around the texture and how much it sticks in your brain rather than being a satisfyingly carried tune that develops naturally.
Songwriting as an artform has changed considerably due to computers becoming central to the writing process, and in a way that's made it LESS complex. Because now you can just cut and paste and endlessly loop things. It's easier to just repeat a section rather than play it through and develop it further, so that's what a lot of music does.
I'm not bemoaning the existence of the technology, for electronic and hip-hop music it's a great help and doesn't alter the intent of the music but pop music that uses the same production techniques tends to lack sufficient melodic complexity.
Nothing stopping people who feel the motivation to do so from writing songs out the old way, I think Martin Newell of the Cleaners from Venus had a post about this subject and he cited Mac DeMarco and Adele as modern artists he feels are still writing proper songs but there are a lot more hacks around.

>>74752278
>Today's melodies are a lot more "bite sized", based around the texture and how much it sticks in your brain rather than being a satisfyingly carried tune that develops naturally.
>Songwriting as an artform has changed considerably due to computers becoming central to the writing process, and in a way that's made it LESS complex. Because now you can just cut and paste and endlessly loop things. It's easier to just repeat a section rather than play it through and develop it further, so that's what a lot of music does.

>he thinks having a repeated chorus is new
Tom Petty did that on "I Need To Know" almost four decades ago.

>>74743726
>csh has the advantage of actually actually being one of the few new indie bands that are not manufactured

Let us not forget as well that Lana Del Ray and Grimeth are also manufactured industry plants.

>>74751052
You all love Jimi Hendrix, but he was a product of his time, you wouldn't make that kind of music today.

Shoegaze will blow up soon and be the next big thing, mark my words.
Also 2018 year of the Linux desktop.

>>74752357
Repetition obviously isn't new, and there are some old songs that are very, very simple. The difference is that now rather than playing the same section twice with their instrument (which can introduce natural variation) artists can now literally repeat the exact same recording as earlier in the song and splice it in easily and seamlessly, and many do.
The biggest difference is that people aren't conceiving songs by playing them and practicing them over and over until they're refined and THEN recording them, people are now opening up a DAW and making the final recording at the same time as they're "writing" it.

>>74752491
You couldn't anyway because you wouldn't have the same musical influences or cultural background he did.

>>74752546
No shit Sherlock.

>>74752168
>Gene Simmons
Fuck that jew nose rat

>>74752493
all the non-basic midwest white girls all already like shoegaze
The dreamy/hazy/gazey kind of feel has been in vogue with the counter-culture this whole decade (starting with chillwave), my question is if that sound will continue to expand its reach or if it'll get replaced by something else
I will agree that reverbed jangly guitars are such an inherently pleasant sound that if someone can find a way to market that kind of music widely (and pull off the trick of making *gaze that's accessible but not too saccharine) it could be very popular. Mac DeMarco proved that but while his sound has lots of fans it's a little too lightweight and "classic rock" for modern radio. Since the 80s you've had to have a HUGE sound to get arena-big. A proper shoegaze band could do that

>>74743432

Because they noticed that there's a market of kids who never listened to Pixies and felt that is a fun/easy direction to head into.

>t.worked with them

DESU if rock music became super successful again I might actually enjoy it less

>>74739846
But there was a band like Interpol called Interpol and they were never popular. I mean they sort of were but there are definitely bands around today that are more popular than Interpol ever was.

Messhuggah is still popular today with metal and rock faggots. Messhuggah will bring back hardcore metal once again.

>>74752263
The hard part is, what is todays attitude? Niggers spouting shit about sex and drugs? Spics talking about dancing in the club?

>>74753196
Ok so what was better about the 80s with glam metal bands singing about doing lines of coke and fucking groupies?

>>74753196
>Spics talking about dancing in the club?
Nobody doesn't go to the club anymore anon

>>74739846
I mean they're right in asense but The Killers are one of the shittiest bands to ever exist and are at the forefront of why rock turned into an effeminete pajama boy factory producing shit nobody wants to hear.

I seriously wish I could toss Brandon Flowers from a plane for having the temerity to write a lyric as putrid as "are we human or are we dancer".

>>74753245
>Ok so what was better about the 80s with glam

Nothing. Glam was shit, the only good parts were literally the solos. Thank god Grunge killed that shitty genre.

Now answer me again, what is the current attidude? Unless you're black, you can't get away with being edgy and mysognistic without libtards calling you everything under the sun. Will there be a counter culture that will chance the political tide? I'm starting to think Trump wasn't enough.

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>>74739982
>I posted this before and I'll post it again: Arena rock style needs to make a comeback.

>>74753354
>Unless you're black, you can't get away with being edgy and mysognistic
Adam Levine kind of did it on a few songs. Too bad he has the worst singing voice on the planet.

>>74740080
First time hearing shoegaze. Is this was this slow ass cancer inducing genre is all about? Fuck me if this thing ever gets fame.

>>74739982
Ask yourself this. Do we really need another KISS or Motley Crue?

I don't know man.. I just want Rock to make an epic maintream comeback and wash away the sea of hacks that dominate the record labels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pN3NdAkZSM

>>74753561
>Do we really need another faggot Nirvana?
Fixed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJu3-qGap_k

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"I think the situation now is a lot like it was in '89 to '91 right before Nirvana broke. Music back then was just a lot of mindless pop and dance tunes, but nothing that actually spoke to how the kids were feeling. I'm confident that good music will make a comeback. It happened before and it can happen again."

>>74753717
>Implying motley cucks and JEWSS are better

>>74740252
Wrong, the biggest rock bands of the 2000s are shit like Disturbed and Godsmack and other terrible bands that kept mainstream rock in the year 2002. Just because Bongs like to sing Seven Nation Army at divegrass games doesn't make the White Stripes the biggest rock act of the 2000s, otherwise 2 Unlimited is the biggest musical act of the '90s.

>>74753775
Is based drummer man right, bros?

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>>74753815
>Just because Bongs like to sing Seven Nation Army at divegrass games doesn't make the White Stripes the biggest rock act of the 2000s
jej

>>74753842
Sort of yes

>>74753900
I was going to ask what band will save us from our current neo Spin Doctors doldrums but then realized the Spin Doctors came around after grunge had already been established.

>tfw want to start a rock band but don't know any other musicians

>>74739884
I am a chad. I should stop saying this to my friends. Soon as they stop being ugly

>>74743111
Rumor has it that Frampton has an incredibly small penis

Why does there have to be a 'rockstars' anyway? At that point it's not even about the music, you don't have to get everyone to know your name to be a great band, or to put on great shows.

Let rockism die peacefully

>>74754613
t.rapcuck

>>74739982
I think a lot of the bands that actually have fun now are mostly smaller acts though. A lot of the bigger acts are more folk inspired and aren't interested in dong more than having the stage lights do the work. Even then I've seen some videos of Radiohead looking like they're having fun (as much fun as would be appropriate).

>>74755362
Give it a few years and it will reverse, just as all the big rock groups in the 80s were LA Sunset Strip party rock and the underground groups were the "serious" ones.

>>74755362
>I think a lot of the bands that actually have fun now are mostly smaller acts though.

I see older bands making a comeback in doing small venues and stuff.

>>74741517
senpai U2 is unironically one of my favorite bands of all time. They definitely decided to make boring radio friendly rock from 2000 onwards but everything before that is fucking great. I honestly think if they broke up in 2000 they'd be considered one of the all time greatest rock bands, but they've fucked their legacy up trying to stay relevant. Same with Coldplay, if they quit while they were ahead after Viva la Vida they'd have 2 great and 2 good albums under their belt, but now they have 4 good-great albums and 3 awful ones.

>>74740177
They are one of my favourite bands too anon.

>>74753354
Why give a shit what libtards call you? It didn't affect Trump so why should it affect your band?