So we like Pitchfork again, right?

>>74695632
>The banana clon album
What a Pitchfork choice

i don't read pitchfork did it get a 1 because that's all it deserves

>>74695632
that album is shit
obscure i'm-smarter-than-you album #526 is clearly the best album of the 60s

One of the most overrated rock albums of all time.

>>74695632
I thought it would be Pet Sounds, but this is alright.

>>74695632
well, they got the right album. But I still dont like Pitchfork.

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rly makes u think

This board is so painfully tsundere for p4k that it gives me second hand embarrassment

>>74695632
Top 20 for those who don't want to look through the whole list:

1. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico

2. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds

3. John Coletrane - A Love Supreme

4. The Beatles - The Beatles

5. Nina Simone - Wild Is the Wind

6. Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde

7. James Brown - Live at the Apollo

8. The Beatles - Revolver

9. Miles Davis - In A Silent Way

10. Aretha Franklin - I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You

11. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Leonard Cohen

12. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground

13. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland

14. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited

15. Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch!

16. The Beatles - Abbey Road

17. Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady

18. The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed

19. Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis

20. The Stooges - The Stooges

>>74695632
What Pitchfork means by this?

>>74695706
Both albums suck. What point are you trying to make?

I thought they already made a list of their top 60's albums a couple years ago. Is this a new/different one?

>>74695711
>4. The Beatles - The Beatles

wtf that's like the worst Beatles album

>>74695725
The Beatles worst album is better than half of Hip hop

>>74695763
Cool opinion, maybe start a music blog and start competing with p4k

>>74695711
>1. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground & Nico
Shouldn't be number 1
>2. The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Should be number 1
>3. John Coletrane - A Love Supreme
Good pick
>4. The Beatles - The Beatles
Their worst album
>5. Nina Simone - Wild Is the Wind
She sucked after 1963
>6. Bob Dylan - Blonde on Blonde
Nu-male king
>7. James Brown - Live at the Apollo
Good pick but way too high up
>8. The Beatles - Revolver
Probably too low
>9. Miles Davis - In A Silent Way
ok
>10. Aretha Franklin - I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You
All her albums suck
>11. Leonard Cohen - Songs of Leonard Cohen
alright :S
>12. The Velvet Underground - The Velvet Underground
No
>13. The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Electric Ladyland
too low
>14. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited
Again he can fuck off
>15. Eric Dolphy - Out to Lunch!
Literally who?
>16. The Beatles - Abbey Road
ok
>18. The Rolling Stones - Let It Bleed
not bad
>19. Dusty Springfield - Dusty in Memphis
She sucked too
>20. The Stooges - The Stooges
that's fair

Overall it's a poor list.

>>74695711
>4. The Beatles - The Beatles
Based

>>74695706
Yellow Submarine is like 50% tracks nobody gives a toss about and it's a BEATLES album. to be the beatles and make an song nobody cares about you have to be seriously off the mark because this is the only release they ever did where that's even vaguely true. every good song on this is a single so you can just listen to the single versions

>>74695711
That Love's "Forever Changes" is not in the top ten and two Beatles records are just goes to show how bloody awful this list truly is.

The White Album is my favorite Beatles album but that's such an obnoxious choice to rank it the highest of theirs.

>>74695769
>Eric Dolphy
>Literally Who?

What a pleb.

>No Red Krayola
>No AMM
>Only one Zappa
>"Hey guys, let's put Piper lower than the fucking Shaggs, that'll show 'em"
come on guys

>>74695711
>17. Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady


Uh Oh!

>>74695792
That's ranked 33

But White Light/White Heat is the best Velvet Underground album and the best 60s album

>>74695769
>Bob Dylan
>Nu-Male King

he's slayed more poon than you ever will

>>74695647
Lol what a clon

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>>74695632
>post-punk
>avant garde

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>>74695889
Oh yeah seeding Joan Baez is such an achievement...

>>74695711
How the fuck did self-titled beat White Light/White Heat?

>>74695889
When you're famous women will let you do whatever they want, you could grab them by the pussy, etc.
If he wasn't famous he'd just be another manlet jew.

>110 - Philosophy of the World
Not even mad desu

>>74695949
It's more important objectively even if it's not as good

Well shit, kudos to them for having an original opinion for once, and not just one that was racially charged.

>>74695711
playing it safe eh pitchfork?

>>74695988
Half of the top 10 are still niggers though,

>>74696025
Except they didn't do this with their top 1 pick

>>74695988
>Nina Simore
>Aretha Franklin
>muh stronk black womn

>>74696031
>>74696048
I didn't read it so maybe they went into a bunch of detail about how great those picks are because of their "B L A C K N E S S" but those are at least tolerable top picks for a popular music reviewing source, which is honestly a lot more that can be said for them from within the last decade
Those female black women are not worth having in a 60s top ten list but by pitchfork's standards the fact that they aren't the top picks is something I'll take over the crap they've been doing lately

>>74695988
It's still shit. The Rolling Stones should be nowhere near top 20 and once again Abbey Road is overlooked. Pet Sounds would be a much better number one, and Captain Beefheart should be waaaaaay higher

>>74695725
Lil peep sucks more

I've probably gone to pitchfork like 5 times in my life. The content just seems really pretentious

>>74696111
It IS pretentious.

>>74695632
>An all white band takes the top spot in the greatest decade of african-american music

Perhaps they aren't as cucked as I thought

>>74695711
>s/t over White Light White Heat
>Pet Sounds over Smile
>Songs of Leonard Cohen over Songs of Love and Hate

Where is plastic ono band

>>74695632
>white indie kids give their opinions on jazz
velvet underground is a reasonable choice, it's the album that invented their genre. but namedropping eric dolphy to give your list credibility is pathetic

>>74695769
>The Pleb Boys
>Number 1 in anything
Are boyband fans the most delusional people on earth

>>74696511
>he unironically thinks sucked my ding dong is a lyric worth repeating

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>pitchfork

>>74695769
retardation ladies and gentlemen

>>74695832
>"Hey guys, let's put Piper lower than the fucking Shaggs, that'll show 'em"
>come on guys

I don't like Pitchfork but this is 100% accurate, Pink Floyd refined their sound immensely after kicking out that spergo

>>74695949
>>74695985
They even put the self-titled ahead of WL/WH. Pathetic

>>74695685
it only pioneered alternative rock u fag

>>74696083
>Those female black women are not worth having in a 60s top ten
>one of the most influential voices and performers of that decade isn't worth of that

I know right, where are the electric guitars?

>>74696502
>in the greatest decade of african-american music

That was the 50s by miles

>>74696031
You're talking as if praising Miles Davis and James Brown is some fucking novelty brought by the PC police

>>74695711
>4. The Beatles - The Beatles
wtf i love pitchfork now

>>74695769
well then, thanks for sharing.
while i love pet sounds, your opinions are not shared with anyone. check out different genres there, friend

>>74695685
>>74696701
Alternative rock is maybe taking it too far, but it pioneered art rock and experimental rock.

so the usual suspects with lots and lots of pop and soul albums that aren't very good or memorable. that's it? like i love the shangri-las more than anything but do these people even know what dreck's actually on leader of the pack? a lesley gore album is better than the kinks' arthur?

what a useless list. the '60s is the most canonized decade ever. to have it sorted out by nervous millennials accomplishes nothing

>>74696701
>>74696862
>rymbabbies
no gives a shit about your ebin genre namedrops, fuck off

>>74695769
>Bob Dylan
>Nu-male king
Someone is afraid of big words I see.

>>74696881
Why are you mad? The guy I replied to didn't take offense and probably doesn't plan on doing, so, why did you?

>>74696715
>by miles
Yeah

>>74695832
Finally, someone mentioned AMM, Red Krayola and Zappa. While the beatlemania and teenage girl love songs were consuming the world, their contemporaries AMM made freely improvised music. And apparently, at least Paul McCartney was a fan.
>Beatles member Paul McCartney once sat quietly through an early AMM session. When asked how he liked the music he said they went on too long.

>>74695792
The fact that

>>74695985
The self-titled is? I agree with Nico (WLWH is still my favorite though) but how is self-titled more important?

>caring about pitchfork, let alone modern pitchfork

>>74696122
every writer thinks that every article is their shining moment and often makes the review about themselves, try too hard to be writerly/poetic, go off on annoying tangents, give arbitrary scores that have zero consistency, etc. It's a pathetic publication

>>74696547
>dude people can't change their opinions lmao

>>74696881
I would say it actually did pioneer alt rock, as it was the first rock album to feature songs that completely disregarded mainstream/pop music conventions, like heroin and black angel's death song. alt-rock broadly just refers to music that breaks from mainstream music conventions, features a distorted sound and has transgressive lyrics, which vu&nico has down to a T, so I think nico absolutely paved the way for subsequent alt-rock bands to emerge, even if they didn't exactly have the 70s/80s/90s alt-rock sound completely down

>>74696881
>alt rock
>ebin genre namedrop
wew

>>74697172
there's absolutely no point in giving a score in the first place if you're going from "total shit" to "really great". A p4k score is less than useless, yet it determines what all their drones buy or dismiss. They just change their opinion based on focus groups so they appear hip

>>74697215
>>74696862
my bad, i quoted wrong, this was meant as a response to this

>>74695711
>>74695711
I don't necessarily disagree with all of these choices, but this list makes me roll my eyes so hard I'm afraid I'm going to lift off like a helicopter. It's like they didn't even think about the correct albums, they just slotted them together like a puzzle to impress the maximum amount of people at how refined their opinions are. This list is *exactly* the positioning and choices you'd expect from pitchfork. It's like some drone just wrote this, trying to display as little independent thought as possible.

>>74696523
that was 1970 boi

>>74697366
>slotted them together like a puzzle to impress the maximum amount of people at how refined their opinions are
Bingo! Which self respecting music critics would include these bands >>74695832, >>74696922?
Either way, they're not worth taking seriously or even discussing. This board is on the verge of death at this point and it doesn't really matter anymore.

>>74695632
Prog cucks BTFO yet again.

>>74697664
>60's
>Prog

Terrible list. Why are there so many medicore albums by artists that only released a handful of good singles?

meme cliché list made by nu males

>>74697676
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_rock

lol wut?

>>74697697
Prog didn't get big until the early 70s.

>>74697748
the most important prog album was in 1969, the fact that its not in the top twenty is sad. it should be top 5 imo

>>74697366
kek

>>74697827
prog is too white and too male

>>74696922
>Beatles member Paul McCartney once sat quietly through an early AMM session. When asked how he liked the music he said they went on too long.
based macca

>>74697827
prog is for autistic neckbeards and shouldn't be in any serious music list

Wot about the Doors?

>>74695792
Forever Changes is incredibly mediocre compared to any Rubber Soul-onwards Beatles record.

>>74695711
> Sgt. pepper not in top 20
plebfork

>>74698090
Sgt Pepper is their plebiest album.

>>74695791
are you nuts? the shitty songs are all George Martins OST for the movie. the A-side is top-notch - All Together Now is one of the most interesting Beatles compositions of all time.

also, with the exception of a few singles everything pre '65 shouldn't is only cared about for cultural reasons, and lacks musical value.

>>74696511
Songs of Love and Hate was released in 1971, so I guess it didn't qualify.

>>74697947

>>74697914
autistic neckbeard prog bands have made some of the best rock albums so youre wrong
>>74698116
fake patrician, equating popularity with "pleb." common mistake

>>74696511
Songs of Leonard Cohen is better than Love and Hate

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>>74695832
I was surprisingly okay with the whole list until I saw they really did discard Red Krayola. What a major let-down.

>>74698170
>autistic neckbeard prog bands have made some of the best rock albums so youre wrong
yeah for autists

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They rank The Beatles as follows:
>white album
>revolver
>abbey road
>sgt pepper
>rubber soul
>hard day's night

This is a very very good ranking.

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>>74695711
>the Beatles in the top 20 twice
>no Zappa

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>>74698408
>twice
count again

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>>74698419
FUCK

Is it just me or are the female singer albums the worst part of the list? So many innovative 60's albums that are left out so they can add some soul, pop and country female singers that are the least memorable of that era.

I like Nina though, although wouldn't put her that high.

>>74696681
Gay

>>74696547
Which album is that?

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>>74695949
Because it's a better album

>>74695711
Beatles s/t as their highest rated album is a very based pick
didn't expect that; good job, p4k

>>74695666
>TVU
>obscure in any way
How oblivous are you?

>>74695706
Yellow Submarine is uninspired tripe.

who cares about that fucking nina simone record? it shouldve been blonde on blonde's spot

muh stronk black wymin

>>74698391
It should be like this:
>revolver
>white album
>sgt pepper
>hard day's night
>abbey road
>rubber soul
Order from best to worst, not from most to least favorite, by the way.

>>74698801
can u comprehend english lol

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>>74695632
>>74695711

>>74698270
Did you honestly expect anything sensible from Pitchfork?

>>74698899
Really takes the ol' noggin for a joggin'

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>TVU&N #1
YESSS
>No Red Krayola, S/T above WL/WH and Mingus below THREE Beatles albums and not even the #1 jazz album in the list
Uuuugh. Disappointed but not surprised.

>>74698913
>the #1 jazz album
Why? As if there's such a concept or a method for discerning one.

should be
1. TVU
2. S/T
3. WL/WH
desu

>>74698992
kill yourself hipster

>>74698873
Abbey Road that low? Why? Aside from that, I agree. Though White Album is my personal favourite

>>74698873
>>74698391
Has no one here even heard Magical Mystery Tour?

>>74699130
it's not a real album though

>>74696872
underrated post

>hurr P4K sucks
>100 replies

never change

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What kind of tryhard shit is this? It's ranked above dozens of 10/10s, like Trout Mask, Freewheelin', Crimson King, etc. Literally nobody thinks that even if you love pre-Damo Can. Probably doesn't belong on the list at all, even though it's pretty good.

>>74699332
apart from the carefully selected top 20 the remaining albums on here seem to have been picked out of a tombola. proper shitshow, this

>>74699156
Following your autistic rockist metric, there are no real albums

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you can call it a meme album or whatever but the amount of influence and impact that record had on rock music is unmatched by anything else. i'd argue that white light is just as important but it's less accessible and famous.

p4k was mainly an indie rock publication, so this being their n1 choice is not surprising at all. it is the best and most important album of the 60's from a rock point of view.

>>74699117
Abbey Road is low because the others are better, and because by 1969 The Beatles stopped being particularly innovative.

>>74699130
It's a special case. Even then, sounds too similar to Sgt.

>>74699323
They do though.

>King crimson didn't crack top 20
Where did it place, lads?

>>74696086
>The Rolling Stones should be nowhere near top 20

embarrassing nu male opinion

>>74698801
Learn to read you stupid twat

>>74695769
blonde on blonde is an incredible album man, there's no way around that fact

>>74695711
What a boring and safe list

>>74695742
they made a list of singles and said it was better because the 60s were more singles-focused than album-focused. guess they changed their mind

hey chummers what position is the doors debut in

im too tired to check

>>74695706
But this image is objectively true in saying that Come Over When You're Sober is better than Yellow Submarine.

>>74700104
95

>>74699598
56

>>74695711
No Nirvana?

>>74700188
woahhhh thanks wow.. shouldve been higher in my humble opinion

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should this be higher lads

>>74700221
you should be higher you fucking manlet

wait....where's hot rats lads

>>74699332
Monster Movie is great but I don't understand why they rank it and Silver Apples s/t over other experimental psych records like Piper, Parable of Arable Land, United States of America and An Electric Storm
Other than that it's an ok list. Better than I expected from p4k

>>74700345
parable of arable land isn't really that good
it's just noise bullshit with a couple ironic pop tunes sprinkled in to make you believe it's music
their instrumental standard was literally lower than sid vicious

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i guarantee you no one has listened to this album in full since the week it came out

and that goes for like 1/5th of this list

>>74699443
Fuck off Lahey

>>74699332
Monster Movie is just Velvet Underground tribute act

>>74695711
I don't think they should be mixing jazz in with their other choices

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>Pitchfork writers reviewing and numerically ranking jazz / avant-garde / classical recordings alongside Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin records

>>74700410
I have before but it's not great, it's just another run-of-the-mill 60s soul album with a fantastic single opening the A-side and then nearly entirely filler. If they were going to choose any Marvin record it should've been You're All I Need with is consistently great.

>>74695792
forever changes is a meme, and the 'production' is fucking garbage

>>74701691
>and the 'production' is fucking garbage
you are actually wrong about this

>>74699900
if it's supposed to be a definitive representation of the best albums of the 60's, it makes sense that it would be "safe".

What, do you think it would have been more laudable if they had filled it with obscure shit that we all know are not the best albums of the 60's? Retard.

>>74695769
this post is so retarded I'm not even going to respond

>>74699718
lmao at using numale as an insult for not liking dad rock enough.

As long as they officially stated that John Cale was superior talent.

>>74695706
I see nothing wrong with this. Rockists need to leave

Pretty sure four years ago I read somewhere on there that they'd never make a list of the top sixties album. Hacks. Well at least they didn't fuck up too badly and pick a Beatles album for the number one spot. Only real upset here is that neither Trout Mask Replica or The Doors debut is in the top ten.

>>74701691
this

But in all seriousness the Nico tracks are shit

The Shaggs > Hard Day's Night

lol

>>74703399
They've already made a list of best songs of the 60's a few years ago, why wouldn't they do albums?

>>74700526
Velvet Underground and Syd Barrett

>>74703026
unironically this

>>74695706
true tho

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Pet Sounds should have been #1

~~ ALSO ~~

easy way to tell someone's a pleb is when they imply that the white album was the beatle's worst LP when it was actually their best.