/prod/?

it switched to some discord that everything thinks is better than /prod/, but the reality is there is already better Production related discords than their fucking empty and lame discords

>>74691167
>it switched to some discord
wasn't part of the problem with /prod/ people trying to shill their soundcloud and stuff? I mean I guess you can't shill to an empty discord server but still

>>74691315
No there wasn't and everybody who posted a sc got called a faggot

>>74691167
Nobody liked the discord though..?

>>74690478
Shit op kys and never start a thread again

Someone posted a thread trash talking sound cloud threads so they migrated to prod and don't contribute at all.

>>74690478
Anyone put a compressor over their mix pre mastering, or mix into one?

I read the Zen of Mixing by Mixerman and he mixes into a 4:1 ratio analogue compressor. He even records into it, nice to know the pros take shortcuts right. Going to email and ask him what he thinks about putting a vst over your mix pre-mastering, something like TDR nova 5 band preset. Sounds slightly fluttery but I maybe imagining that.

He also says he's offended when a masterer compresses his mix ?

>>74690478
it just smells funny

>>74692954
was that why there have been so many more shitposters and flamers?

>>74692996
>pros take shortcuts right
reasonable techniques and don't make things hard on themselves*

>records into it
everybody does that

>mixes into
are you sure you didn't misinterpret that? because that's a really stupid idea- anything you do before that will be exaggerated and you won't hear what you're *actually* doing.

HOWEVER some guys do shit like mix normally, bus everything to a parallel comp and bring it in at low levels....

last sentence sounds stupid as fuck lol. i mean there are some guys who are "against" things like reverb and compression, but it's never that simple. they're kind of like the neckbeards of the recording world though (not all bad of course).

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>>74693980
>they're kind of like the neckbeards of the recording world though

>>74693980
The book is fairly old and deals with live music, bands etc. It was the recording into a compressor that was frowned upon by his friend at least. Yeah he spent a while talking about mixing into it, and getting used to it though didn't say exactly what he was getting used too. I suppose reminding himself the compressor's there.


last bit; I think he meant that he'd got the tone how he wanted and compression would change it too much. It was a pretty rambly book and not very specific / technical

>>74694049
actually albini's exactly who i had in mind saying that

he's made some good fucking albums though so it's whatever.

>>74694068
>recording into a compressor

a lot of people do frown on that because they want "flexibility" in the box and don't want to commit to a certain sound before they've tracked the entire song. Either philosophy is fine really, you just need to remember that the recording stage is "pre-mixing," compressing on the way in is just another decision like mic placement etc.

amazon reviews hinted at it being more about "mindset" rather than a lot of specifics so idk man lol. if he was really that anal he should just master it himself.

>>74694133
He's a funny guy. About mastering he said he didn't really know what happened during the process, was adament that mastering your own mix is bad and the golden rule to tell if your mastering guy did a good job is 'it sounds better.'

>>74694402
>>74694133
..also judging a masterer on his gear is the way to tell if he's good. One thing he said which I didn't get was if he has a tape machine with big reels and doesn't use it to record then he's good. I remembered that because I read it twice not understanding it. Does the masterer use the tape to play through for saturation?

>>74694436
>judging a masterer on his gear
>he said he didn't really know what happened during the process, was adament that mastering your own mix is bad

yeah i'm no longer considering this guys opinions

some people dump to tape for saturation, yes.

>>74694674
I am exagerating his attitude, he spends a while debating the pros and cons of things, eg justifying masterer's gear 'if he's serious about it and that's his only job he'll have the right gear' kind of thing. Don't not read him based on my summaries, he's not black and white about everything

>>74691167
>better Production related discords
can u point me to these please <3

>>74690478
anyone else here /Dawless/ and make music in strictly sequencer/hardware?

>>74690478
Is this the /prod/ general now?

>>74696684
You can thank the op for fucking it up

>>74696637
edm reddit prod

>>74696645
No. But are saving to buy my first synth. What do you use to record?

https://clyp.it/mcbknzfu

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Anyone keep listening to their own 1 minute loops on repeat forever? Feels so fucking narcisstic.

>>74699398
I do this constantly. I just sit there thinking about how bad what I make is and how I wish I could do better.

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does anyone have a working download of VocALign
or has the installer and can quickly upload it for an anon

>>74699398
yeah i listen to my stuff repeatedly almost every day
its like looking in the mirror

>>74699599
>>74699398
Its an easy habit to get into but you have to pull yourself out of it. I have been there and it lasted a year, complete with mixing micro adjustments. Its a pitiful place to be

>>74699398
>>74699446
I do this everyday with several recent projects...in hopes I'll get inspiration to jump back in and improve them, but I never do.

>>74696645
I used to
the hands on aspect can't be beat for the composition/performance side of things, but you need a serious mixer and rack setup to sound modern or polished. imo daw is better for the recording/mix side of things.

>>74699645
why its a bad thing

can we post soundcloud here
https://soundcloud.com/samuelcfaria/i-will-survive

>>74690478
I think you just killed it OP.

Am I the only one noticing the decline in good informative posts and the increase in shitposting and trolling?

There is almost no discussion at all.
Only beginners asking a question and getting an answer they'd have gotten sooner on Google.
Or people asking if they should buy some piece of gear.

How do we save /prod/?

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Before /prod/ dies forever, could you let me know what you think about these two tracks. The first one I made a year ago, the second one is a remake of the first track but using some new techniques I've learned. I wanted to know what you guys think.

Original
https://soundcloud.com/saturnsgold/lost-child-alternate-ending

Remake
https://soundcloud.com/saturnsgold/lost-child-reimagined

>>74699989
no i couldnt find a working installer of Vocalign on google

>>74699968
Total waste of time, and there is a heavy delusionalness to it. Your mind thinks you're this amazing musician who's blowing the world away but the world is oblivious.

Music you make which isn't finished and released in some way doesn't really exist except in your mind (and maybe a friends) There are parallels with schizophrenia.

>>74700051
Asking for someone to give you something is not the same as asking someone to give you easily available information.

Clearly your case wasn't what I was talking about.

>>74700100
can you give me a working installer of vocalign. i literally filled my pc with virus by downloading suspect torrents out of despair

>>74694402
>and the golden rule to tell if your mastering guy did a good job is 'it sounds better.'
Well why wouldn't it be? If it sounds worse it's shit, and if it sounds the same it's pointless.

>>74700109
http://www73.zippyshare.com/v/cIjuE0pC/file.html
http://www73.zippyshare.com/v/uXYLphv6/file.html

These should be ok.

Found here:
http://fresh-stuff4u.com/?s=vocalign

>>74696645
I'd like to but I still need a polyphonic sequencer. Can't pley kbds for shit.
captcha: blackbutt rodofort

>>74699989
This always happens with generals. they should honestly just be abolished on every board.

>>74700149
In the context of him saying that he was talking about all the overanalysing you can do of mastered alternate versions eg vocal up 1DB or down, etc. His point was you can drive yourself nuts getting your mix back from the masterers when its needn't be a complicated

>>74699989
Yeah.

A couple of weeks ago I posted about a technique that's slightly more advanced than how it would've normally been done, and I spent two days arguing with people trying to first convince me that it's useless and wrong.

The experience traumatized me so much that it made me turn into a tripfag.

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>>74700234
>>74699989
Be the change you want to see

>>74700234
>The experience traumatized me so much that it made me turn into a tripfag.
lies
you were a tripfag through that entire autistic meltdown you had.

>>74700536
Nope.
I only started to use it here:
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/74315652/#74337388

Many hours after the discussion started with this post of mine:
https://rbt.asia/mu/thread/74315652/#74323153

I only kept going with it after that, and it wasn't a meltdown.
I was calm throughout the whole thing.
I just sat there explaining my arguments.

>>74699398
Anyone else here smells their own fingers after scratching their balls?

>>74699989
I've kinda noticed a decay in the quality of the feedback. Before, whenever I posted, I'd get at least one serious comment on my tracks, now it's mostly it's shit/boring/unfounded opinion.

>>74700347
>Implying I'm not the one making most helpful and long posts

>>74701520
You aren't though, just complaining

>>74701546
Sorry mod.
Didn't know you tracked my IP and crossreferenced it with the MAC addresses of the devices I use across IP changes.

I'm sorry. I promise I won't lie anymore.

help plz
https://clyp.it/ugtx4mi1?token=e9873361928a70c5daff6010a69b4a9b

>>74700645
>*tips fedora*

>>74702034
>*tips back*

>>74701701
>https://clyp.it/ugtx4mi1?token=e9873361928a70c5daff6010a69b4a9b

This would fit in nicely at an EDM festival, take that as a compliment or a gripe. It does sound a generic, but well done as far as that kind of EDM goes. You have a few semi interesting rhythms, but nothing crazy, try to incorporate a more unique rhythm. Ending is long and drawn out, do you have a specific reason to have 30 seconds of a hi hat playing against white noise?

Also stay away from your cringe title and username.

I thought if you produced an EDM track even by mistake you were swallowed up by the earth and melted into lava as the righteous wrath of mother nature herself puts your shit taste in its place

>>74702104
>This would fit in nicely at an EDM festival, take that as a compliment or a gripe.
thanks!!!

>It does sound a (bit?) generic
What parts? the bass? the second half? the build-drop thing?

>Ending is long and drawn out, do you have a specific reason to have 30 seconds of a hi hat playing against white noise?
it's just space for patterns i'm not using, going to have another drop section after the midsection

>Also stay away from your cringe title and username.
HAHHAHAHA, i know lmao, I don't have a soundcloud so I'm just uploading clyps and getting feedback before I actually release stuff on soundcloud.

I need you to tell me if this shit i made on my casio is good or not.
https://clyp.it/vs5hnaw5

>>74702259
>What parts?
The genre you're going for in general is generic edm, hence why I said it would fit in at an EDM festival. Nothing wrong with what you're going for but it's nothing ground breaking. I feel like I've specifically heard the lead you used in the first half used by a big artist before, but I could be wrong.

Side note: I do really like the drop at the beginning, well done

>>74702344
Sexy

>>74702344
It's not bad but there's a lot to be done. I find the panning drum thing kind of annoying. I like the melody.

>>74702344
>https://clyp.it/vs5hnaw5
Work on your mastering but I like this, I'm imagining a 70's crime drama movie opening with the sunrising and bold white text listing the crew for some reason.

Also would not be surprised if i heard this in an elevator.

https://clyp.it/hzgyj0uf
Ok I know the bass was kinda fucky the last time so I fixed it. Other than that, any thoughts? I sort of like this but I also like my own farts so idk.

>>74701701
p cool sound design, tho some of it gets generic and preset tier

arrangement really needs a lot of work.
right now just seems like you are changing things every 8 measure without reason or forethought.

>>74702344
I like it. Pretty chill.

Friend and I's first two songs off of our WIP project. I did vocals and lyrics, he handled production. Please give any thoughts on both sides, would really appreciate it.

https://clyp.it/ykvba35a (First song)

https://clyp.it/dodqy0pe (Interlude)

>>74702720
Like the vocals on Lotus Eater. The dissonant/discordant notes put me off a bit. But I'm not a huge fan of those things to begin with.

I really like the interlude. Probably because it is more traditionally melodic.

Both are pretty good for WIP but they don't stand out to me.

>>74702817
Don't stand out as in they don't grab your attention? What would you recommend to make them bolder

>>74700051
Lol

>>74700234
Regardless of whether you were right or wrong you were just being a faggot

>>74702977
>Regardless of whether you were right or wrong you were just being a faggot
Doesn't matter.

>>74702998
>(You)

There you go. Fuck off now

>>74690478
how do I make really fast kicks (aka "metal double bass") sound good, let's say, at 200+ bpm, in 16ths? No matter what I do they sound either like indiscernible porridge of low frequencies or clicks with no audible bass.

How do I make mac demarco trend core to make hipster girls wet

>>74703083
Have you tried using a sample?

>>74703034
I'll go back to posting anonymously like I always do, and you'll respond nicely to my posts not knowing that the regular Anon you'll be talking to will actually be me.

>>74703083
Use a character compressor. I suggest MJUC, just mess round with the settings till it sounds good

>>74703111
Good, that's literally the whole philosophy of this website

Even if somebody thinks you're a faggot, if you have something to contribute they won't judge it based on who said it. Trips are fine for some instances but not here

>>74703148
>>74703083
btw 200 bpm with 16ths will prolly sound stupid no matter what you do

>>74703189
I know.
That's why I've resumed to posting anonymously in every single general since adopting the trip, except when it's related to the original argument, such as now.

Even in this very thread I've made more posts without the trip than with.

>>74703202
how come people make it sound great then?

>>74702859
They just seem to be kind of vaporwave-y and I'm not sure there's a focal point for me. Like everything seems at relatively on the same level volume/mix wise. Although you said it is a WIP so maybe not much mixing yet Maybe try bringing up the vocals. I like the lyrics. But sometimes I can't make out what they are. Basically whatever you feel like the strongest part of that I feel you should make more prominent. To me it's the vocals.

>>74703108
what do you mean? all I have is samples, heh

>>74703253
do they?

>>74703295
As in a sample of a 200 bpm metal double drum.

>>74703301
ok, check this
starting at 3:40 there is this insanely fast double bass drum part, much faster than 200 bpm, played by a real drummer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66dCCwutczQ?t=3m40s
>inb4 posting borgir
I know it's a cheesy example, but the production here is fine and demonstrates well that no matter how fast, kicks can sound powerful

>>74704294
The fact that it's played by a real drummer makes it more doable, cause each kick interrupts the last one physically, so it doesn't sound unnatural.

>>74703231
fuck off with your autism jorbenfag

>>74690478
Deleted this unpolished turd anyway.
https://clyp.it/db2cpguf

>>74700161
thanks
this one created a .vst and .dll file, unlike the others i had tried, but it still doesnt show up on reapers fx list (i checked reapers vst folders and its right)

Where do you guys look for samples besides the usual places (torrents Reddit freesound)

I'm mainly after foley and acoustic drums atm

>>74705561
THEN I SHALL MAKE MY OWN

>>74705224

Are you the same anon who was having trouble with this a while back, maybe the week before last?

I uploaded a working version of the AIR release during that conversation - if you're the same person are you saying that this release didn't work in your Reaper either?

If so, then we'll need to know a few other things, so we can rule them out:

OS - Windows 7, 10, XP?

Reaper version - please say it's version 5 or later because versions before that don't support VST3s like Vocalign.

Install directory for Vocalign - should be the "Common Files" folder for VST3

>>74706426
yes im that same person from that thread
i dont remember if i downloaded the one you uploaded, cant find it on my pc now
the release that i tried last is >>74700161
im on windows 10, reaper 5.4
vocalign .dll/.vst are present on the common files and on the vstplugins folders

>>74706658

No worries - if your Reaper sees other VST3 plugins we'll need to try the one I uploaded for you, again so we can rule it out:

https://www.anonfiles.cc/file/dc7570eeb6bfd9c1343023493947e1d1

>>74706835
>if your Reaper works with other VST3 plugins but not Vocalign

Corrected for clarity

Ok /prod/ im fucking bored as shit making trap music and i wanna start making something else what do i make

>>74707028
Start singing and git gud at voice processing.

>>74706835
didnt recognize your uploaded version
going to try this 4.1.3 RTAS release. hoping it isnt a virus at least

>>74707028
idm don't be a pleb bitch

>>74707146
what are some essential artists i can take inspo from? ive been listening to a lot of lee bannon and machine girl lately but i dont think thats IDM.

>>74707115
nothing, didnt recognse

>>74707249
Idk bannon

Mg is kind of. "Quintessential" artists are aphex twin, autechre, boards of Canada and square pusher.

Afx and square pusher are too... idk random and close to jungle imo. Not that interesting except when they get softer.

I think the most interesting guys to take inspo from are arca and autechre by far.

Please post if you make anything interesting I get lonely in these threads

>>74707301

RTAS (without a VST component) is an older (Digidesign, before Avid) Pro Tools plugin format - can Reaper load those?

At this point we'd need to start looking at Reaper - is it seeing/loading any VST3 plugins?

If it is, and this is related to Vocalign only, then you'll need to remove all traces of the previous Vocalign installations - all the Vocalign files from any folder they have been installed to, go to Control Panel and uninstall any Vocalign versions that appeared to correctly install, and then search your registry for any keys that are left over from previous installs of Vocalign.

Do that, then run Reaper and re-scan for plugins. This should rebuild Reaper's plugin database and it should clear any conflicting info Reaper may have had in there regarding Vocalign.

Close Reaper, and install the AIR release again, allowing it to install to the Common Files folder, don't copy anything to the vst plugins folder - VST3s don't belong there.

Open Reaper and re-scan for plugins.

No joy after that? Re-install (update?) Reaper.

>>74707714
i will , i need more places to share my shitty music

https://clyp.it/lpjzpnnw
I really like this song but I can't think of anymore to add to it, so I'm throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks

>>74707028
breakcore

buying a portable digital recorder to collect audio for sampling

anyone have experience w/ Tascam DR-05 or the Zoom H-series stuff (H2next160 prob)?

I'm favoring the Tascam but the mic arrangement looks like there'd be a dead audio space right in front of the thing which seems bad for recording non-room sound-type samples. idk.

>>74709347

The mics on the DR-05 are omnis so there will be overlap of the polar patterns in the centre that covers it the gap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=644UU55eyzk

Anywhere you can download this or other boiler room set's without ripping from Youtube?

Also whats some good old school frankie?

>>74709852
wrong thread kid

>>74700109
tfw this nigga still hasnt gotten vocalign working

>>74702344
Can u enable downloading it? thanks

I am done with minikey What cheap midi controlled can I get that can be used on hardware synth?

Bumping this back to page 1, anyone lurking? Trying to find good drum fills to learn from

>>74712600
Arturia keystep

>>74712690
always lurking this thread buddy

just listen to bands with good drummers and write it down when you hear something that catches your ear to come back to m8

>>74712894
isn't keystey having slim key?

>>74712999
That's what I've been trying to do, I just struggle to translate that into something workable when I get back to my computer. I'm having a hard time starting songs recently and I'm trying to push through, with drums being my favorite part to write I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask about it. I'm trying to figure out how to incorporate more breakcore stuff into my beats, I fucking adore breakcore shit.

>>74699989
Everyone is too busy watching tv and playing videogames to make actual music. I havent posted in prod for 1.5 years, just lurk

>>74713156
>kids these days >:|

i think it's this >>74692954

If prod is so dead, why not make up a challenge of sort to get people back into it? Like, throw a song or something up and say you have to sample something from it and make X-type beat from it. Think that'd help or nah?

>>74713083
I don't know much but maybe you'll like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuhU01GP6CI&list=PLyOWf2pL4e0S-BYeQdcWslO4ibI-EJXiI

>>74713691
This is fucking excellent, thanks anon. The bass grooves on this are lovely.

hey guys, what do you reckon?

https://clyp.it/tfou2zko

I made this using pxtone and audacity.

>>74715029
Change the beat plz what -_____-

Has potential but I question what made you think the relentelsss bleeps in place of an interesting beat was cool m8

>>74704527
>jorbenfag
What did he mean by this?

>>74715195
Go to bed and stop begging people to make fun of you with that fucking trip you autistic fuck

>>74715278
But I just woke up an hour ago.

I just found an excellent ECW promo video that uses Misirlou as a backing track, im gonna try to clip it and use it as an intro to a beat using Misirlou as a base. Thoughts?