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Political Punk (that isn't shit)

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Is all political punk music either Communist or Nazi? are people who make music just stupid or something?
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Punks tend to be extremists because they're typically outcasts (or were before it became upper class kids). Nazism and Communism are about as far as you can go and the symbols shock people.
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>>74684952
I mean.. there's anarchy punk
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Most political punk leans very left, but rarely actually supports communism. Hell, I would say the same for a lot of RAC/Oi! that leans right as well. Might wanna actually pay attention to the lyrics instead of over-exaggerating everything as commie/nazi.
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>>74684996
that's just communist punk
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>>74684999
Do you have any examples?
I've been listening to No Remorse (and I really enjoy them) but I'm not sure if there is much room for hyperbole.

"I'm a racist and niggers hate it"
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>>74684999
I'd love to hear some legit tankie punk

Gang of Four and Pop Group I know were real deal marxists but they were post-punk

Also on the other point I only really know Skrewdriver regarding Oi and They're great but to say they don't support nazism with songs like blood and honor and white power is a bit disingenuous. Not trying to get into political shitflinging btw.
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>>74685032
I think in regards to the right-leaning Oi! he might have been more refering to stuff like Combat 84 or similar who expressed right-wing sentiment but without going full "blood and soil" on everyone
As for Tankie Punk, I'm pretty sure CCCP Fedeli alla linea were Stalinist apologists
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>>74684952
Cro-Mags - The Age of Quarrel
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>>74685068
Stalinist punk fuck yeeeeeeeeeees

What about general marxist/communist?
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>>74685003
How the fuck are anarchy and communism remotely similar??
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>>74685224
Google "Anarcho-communism"

Also antifa are anarcho communist and /pol/tards conflate that with communism in general.
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>>74685224
>he thinks communism and anarchy aren't the same thing
Lol it's all left wing shit that Breitbart tells me is bad, therefore it's all the same.
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>>74685224
Anarchism is just ''full communism''.
USSR aren't REAL communists d'oh
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>>74685224
Ask antifa
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>>74685256
Maybe its just sloppy language within parties
But I hear Socialist, Communist, and Anarchist used as interchangeable words all the time.
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>>74685293
Well that is really fucking inaccurate
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>>74685211
There's tons of Socialist/Communist Punk, and it all depends on how far you want to go. Even the Clash were Socialists, and there's far further left bands than them. I know there's a Topsters of Marxist/Commie bands that included some punk bands that someone can probably post. As much as I'm going on about this I'm drawing a complete blank on full Marxists for some reason outside of Crisis, but there are lots, lots more, honest.
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>>74685300
end goal is to create a classless society
in practice they aren't the same. because Anarchism isn't practicable
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>>74685032
>>74685068
les ralizes denudes were communist terrorists iirc
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>>74685437
Only one of them was, one of their bassists hijacked a plane, though I think they did have broader connections to the Japanese Red Army outside of that
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>>74684952
There's the whole 'no gods no leaders' sew on patch that's popular with squatters and thin white men with dreadlocks. Nihilistic Atheist Anarchist the musical?

It's a bit intense , I prefer the hippies
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I'd consider Downtown Boys to be the best political punk band around right now. They just came out with a new album, but I like their last LP, Full Communism, better. Listen to it despite the damn title.
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>>74685331
Anarchy sounds a bit like early Greek demos' and things like that. Or a form of total democracy, it's just a way to not pay taxes basically


While being on the dole.
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Not sure if Rudimentary Peni would be what you're looking for
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>>74684952
I'm willing to bet most communists are more intelligent than you. There's a reason they dominate intelligentsia and abstract continental philosophy while right wingers are busy reading bibles and liberals are stuck with bourgeois popsci meme cosmopolitans like dawkins and bill maher
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>>74685785
sure thing, faggot
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>>74684952
There's esoteric punk.. though it tends to be absorbed by grunge, metalcore and death metal.
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>>74685892
Also there is "playing the fool" punk.
Basically everyone gets shit.
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>>74685718
Anarchist punks are basically hippies anyway
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>>74685783
Rudimentary Peni are great, though despite being Anarchists I always thought the themes of mental illness was way more prominent. Unreleated, but do you know why the reissue programme just seemed to stop a few years back?
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>>74685871
Wow! You just refuted every critical theorist ever. How will Derrida recover??

Calling someone a faggot is literally all right wingers have. Might makes right in the form of ideology. Essentially intellectually cucking yourself
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>>74685224
communism is just anarchy with a french slant. you're thinking of marxism and post-marxism which is a vague concept that people have used to do all kinds of crazy shit for some reason.
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>>74684952
Minutemen? Lefties for sure, but not commies.
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>>74684952
this is a purely nihilist piss-take at the present world as such, and it is one of the top political releases of the decade
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>>74686147
Probably due to a lack of interest from people so they stopped doing it
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Slaves is another great modern and political punk band. They're about on par with The Clash in terms of politics. Pro-worker, pro-social welfare, anti-authoritarian, anti-apathy, etc.
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Pissed Jeans does semi-social, but not necessarily political
Mainly what >>74684973 says. Punk is typically extremist who either bend far left or far right. No one wants to hear a centralist album about how we should all get along, and that compromise is key(Which it is). When it's not political it's often pop punk
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13758218
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>>74684952
>are people who make music just stupid or something?
>punks
>smart
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>>74686118
Hippies are more relaxed and sexy.
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>>74686484
>what is rudimentary peni
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>>74684952
Gorilla Biscuits might be your thing
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>>74687868
Rudimentary Peni is an anarchist band what are you talking about?
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Ramones?
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>>74685272
Communism is the state being in control of the means of production, in anarchy the worker is in control of the means of production. Antifas principles are contrary to anarchy despite their low iq members, Chomsky thinks they are morons.
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>>74688032
*anarchism
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>>74688032
>Communism is the state being in control of the means of production, in anarchy the worker is in control of the means of production
wrong. communism is the abolition of private ownership of the means of production in favour of community control.
anarchism is abolition of the state
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