What does /mu/ think of Brand New? Are they worth looking into?

>>74667977
Yeah, go for it

discount lil peep

>>74667977
just listened to science fiction. good shit/10

Deja Entendu is good, and Devil and God is one of my favorite albums of all time. Definitely check out Devil and God, if nothing else.

>>74667977
Tried to get into them but they're far too try-hard edgy for me. Gave their new album a go and they've turned the try hard down and it's actually a really good record

Their lyrics are cringecore but Daisy is pretty rockin

Devil and god is amazing

newithoutYou are superior.

nu-cuckmale wife's son-core

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>>74668552

>>74667977
They're serious reddit core with cringefest lyrics but if you're into edgy music go for it.

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clearly the superior album

>>74667977
Don't act like you didn't bring up brand new because of their new album

>>74667977
YEAH
*catchy guitar riff*

>>74668931
You mean the brand new brand new album?

>>74668949
HAHAHAHA LOLOL OLOL XDDD

Real shit

Devil & God is one of the best albums of all time

Deja Entendu is one of the pop punk albums of all time

The 3 rest of their albums are great.

So yeah I'd say they're worth checking out

>>74669181
Truth

>>74669181
This is accurate.

Science Fiction is aotysf

>>74669181
>Devil & God
>Best album of all time

Whew lad.

It's a great album but not that great.

>>74668982
Glad you liked it. Smash that subscribe button if you want more.

>>74667977
Yes just don't listen to your favourite weapon, It's trash for the most part.

>>74669181
I don't think you're giving Deja Entendu by jsut calling it a Pop Punk album.

>>74669683
I meant you're not giving it enough justice.

(Sorry, i haven't slept for 2 days)

>>74669704
You haven't slept for 2 days, so you're the perfect demographic for Brand New.

Seriously everyone should listen to Science Fiction though, it's album of the year material

>>74669783
I agree, Science Fiction in my opinion is just as good as TDAG, from this point on it's not an easy choice to choose the best Brand New Album.

How i'd personally rank the albums

>The Devil And God 10/10
>Science Fiction 9.5/10 (Although will probablly take TDAGS position)
>Daisy 8/10
>Deja Entendu 7.5/10

-----------------------------Quality Drop

>Your Favorite Weapon 4/10

>>74669875
I give YFW a 7 because I like the cheese of the record. Plus Soco as an album ender is fucking perfect. Moshi Moshi should have been on it tho...(or was that deja era? idk)

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Best song on the new album? Same Logic/Teeth hands down

>>74669875
Solid ratings senpai

>>74668520
mewithoutYou being superior doesn't mean Brand New aren't also a God-tier band.

>>74669659
fuck off

>SO IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL A GETAWAY

worth it just for that

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Just checked them out. They sound pretty emo cringe. What are you all 12 on this board?

>>74669704
Get some sleep lad.

>>74670342

Reasons YFW doesn't suck:
>Shower Scene
>Jude Law
>Logan to Government Center
>Seventy Times 7
>Secondary

Science Fiction was kinda boring.

>>74671102
All of those except Logan suck donkey balls.

>>74671102
I love brand new but
>logan
>seventy times 7
>jude law
are the only good songs on that album. Some of their unfinished releases (brothers/aloC aloC, fight off your demons, covers) blow yfw out of the water

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dropping some truth on yall

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>>74671712

Emotionally dishonest music for alt-normies.

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>>74671731

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>>74669431

>>74667977
If they were a new band i probably wouldn't care that much but i have too many memories attached to them.

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>>74671779

Idk why people meme this band so much. I tried listening to The Devil and God but the emotional delivery felt forced and insincere, and the production was too cheesy. There are bands who play similar music but do it way better than Brand New.

>>74671902
who

>>74671921
not him, but Home Like Noplace is There by the Hotelier comes to my mind

also Sunny Day Real Estate, particularly How It Feels to Be Something On

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>>74671963
nice recs
still prefer science fiction

>>74672051
I prefer science fiction to TDAG, myself

in terms of the recs, I can see SF overtaking those in time for me, maybe not HIFTBSO but Home for sure

>>74672051
>>74672129
also reminds me a lot of La Dispute

I listened to Wildlife a fuckton last year

Just listened to Devil and God last night for the first time, and I quite liked it. I suppose this is as good a time as any to try Science Fiction, seeing as people who don't seem to like the band, like that album.

>>74672153
get some early modest mouse vibes from SF

>>74672231
Don't skip Daisy.

>>74668520
Maybe if he didnt have a lisp

>>74672275
oh yeah, forgot that.
definitely a lot of moon and Antarctica sound in there - pretty similar albums too thematically/lyrically as well

>>74672290
different anon but i skipped Daisy. if it's in the archive i'll get it i guess

>>74667977
I like Milestone but other than that I didn't think the album was all that good.

Devil and God is fucking amazing. I don't know if they'll ever top it, but Science Fiction does come close.

If you liked both of those, listen to Deja Entendu

>>74672153
Wildlife is one of the best Post-Hardcore albums in the last 10 years.

>>74672762
i really agree with ya there anon

>>74672762
touche amore

op is pedo

>>74672845
Right there with you.

>>74672867
Touche Amore is fucking awesome (Stage Four was my 2016 AOTY, and I'm going to see them in October), but I still seriously think that Wildlife trumps all of their work except Stage Four

>>74671865
>Gasoline and Daisy 10s
nice
>Noro not a 10
now hold on a second

>>74672945
it's a plagiarized song anyway so whatever

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you guys jelly of my setlist

>>74672900
nicee
first listen of wildlife now im conflicted between this and stage four

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>Well Jesus Christ I'm alone again
>So what did you do those three days you were dead?
>'Cuz this problem's gonna last
>More than the weekend

>>74672986
They're close, but Wildlife tops Stage Four imo just for instrumental diversity. Wildlife changes things up, takes new approaches to a song and story.

Stage Four (and by extension, Touche Amore is guilty of this) is really same-y imo.

Though they're both concept albums, I'm not sure which concept I like more. To be sure, both deal with extremely heavy topics. I think Jeremy's is more sincere than Wildlife is, but Wildlife really hits a part of me hard.

Idk, would love to hear your thoughts when you finish Wildlife.

SF ≥ Daisy > D&G >>> Deja >> YFW

>>74673100
Agree with you on the diversity.
Last half of the album from poem onwards felt really strong sonically and emotionally - tops stage four

>>74673206
Oh for sure. The last half of Wildlife is god tier.

But honestly, I think from A Letter onwards is amazing. The songwriting in Safer in the Forest + The Most Beautiful Bitter Fruit is some of the best they've ever done.

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>>74672153
In what way do you feel SF is similar to La Dispute?

>>74673267
best songs imo safer in the forest/king park
After first listen I would say both wildlife and SF got into my top 20

>>74668254

underrated post

>>74673292
contrast of more quite emotional moments with heavy instrumentals

>>74673341
Wildlife is easily in my top 5.

It gets new life when you listen to it knowing it's a concept album. Jordan Dreyer (the singer of La Dispute) says that the album is about an author struggling against his demons and slowly degrading life. The songs in Wildlife (such as King Park, Edward Benz, I see Everything, Missionary Baptist Blues etc) are all short stories written by the author, who uses them to express his pain. Some of the songs in the album are actually written as notes in the margin to the listener, and the authors friends/family.

It's really a brilliant fucking album. Go listen to it again like this. And then listen to Hear Here, ROTH, etc. Fucking love these guys. HUGELY underrated, especially by /mu/.

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>>74667977
Anyone have a link to Sci Fi?

Asking for a friend...

>>74673424
>Some of the songs in the album are actually written as notes in the margin to the listener, and the authors friends/family.
different guy but what do you mean here

not being critical i just dont understand

>>74673424
definitely going to pay more attention to the lyrics next listen
these albums are pretty different to most of the stuff I listen to but im glad im getting into it

>>74667977
Theyre good kinda normie

>>74673426
Here, lazy fag. http://www10.zippyshare.com/v/ev51ZRRq/file.html

>>74673426
FLAC torrent
http://m.thepiratebay.org/torrent/18391529/Brand+New+-+Science+Fiction+%282017%29+%5BFLAC%5D

My second favorite band, and probably the best band (quality wise) to enjoy in common with mid-20s emo qts.

>>74673540
you have a mega? Zippy isn't working

>>74673463
>>74673496
There's a split in thematic elements on the album. Some songs are in the form of short stories, and some are letters/poems/notes written by the author meant to be "read" by you, the listener, and the author's imaginary friends/family.

Song like:
>A Departure
>A Letter
>A Poem
>A Broken Jar
>All Our Bruised Bodies and the Whole Heart Shrinks
>You and I in Unison

Are the author of the short stories on this album DIRECTLY communicating with the listener, with his friends and his family. That's why they're not about other people, they're about himself, and they're about the ones he loves.

The short stories on this album are:
>Harder Harmonies
>St. Paul Missionary Baptist Blues
>Edit Your Hometown
>Safer in the Forest/Love Song for Poor Michigan
>The Most Beautiful Bitter Fruit
>King Park
>Edward Benz, 27 Times
>I See Everything

IF you listen to these songs knowing that they're supposed to be short stories the author is writing to express his anguish, you'll catch him relating them back to himself in the form of notes, or some rambling. My best example of this would be in the song St. Paul Missionary Baptist Blues, when the author finishes describing the decline of the church and the guy slowly putting it back together, he asks "I wonder if there's anyone out there like that for you and me, for you and me? For anyone else who's broke and lost hope."

Or in the song Edward Benz, he breaks from the narrative of Ed getting attacked, and starts writing about other songs on the album, and how he always thinks of Ed going through what he did.

It's fucking genius.

>>74667977
hot chicks love brand new

>>74673575
It will. You have to click download now a couple of times.

>>74673587
Damn. Reminds me of joanna newsoms lyric writing, looking into the lyrics really gives a whole new appreciation.
This album might become top 10

>>74673667
Dude, Jordan Dreyer is a lyrical genius. Just listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPppInfmpvo
It's from their Hear, Here project, which is just whatever they want to throw together.
And this is from their split with Koji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc0qrLRD33w

And if you like La Dispute doing concept albums, give their latest record, Rooms of the House a spin. It's another concept album where the main character explores how people turn rooms of a house from "just blue prints" to a place where people live. He recounts stories and events that occurred in relation to the rooms of the house and the objects within. While they haven't reviewed it, Pitchfork believes that it deserves to be up there alongside Benji, as far as songwriting goes
http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/621-the-year-in-post-hardcore-has-the-new-wave-crested/
>It was a banner year for records weaving interconnected character studies and Rooms of the House deserves to be mentioned alongside Benji and My Krazy Life for its sheer comprehensiveness and depth.

This is among my favorite songs off ROTH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7USljBVWE

>>74673587
Well now I have to listen to this album. Thanks dude, this sounds intense

I'm just so fucking happy we didn't get a whole album of I am a Nightmare

>>74673901
This. Not gonna lie, the song grew on me a little bit but goddamn is it undeniably soulless. An album of that would've just dragged on forfuckingever.

>>74673747
This is like hardcore poetry.
Strong start listening to ROTH.
I like what this thread turned into.

>>74671384
Every brand new album bores me at first, listen to it again
>>74671102
Don't forget no seatbelt song

>>74667977
What should I listen to if I want more stuff like Brand New, outside of Modest Mouse?

>>74673939
>>74673939
You're right, it is.
La Dispute didn't form under the guise of being a Post-Hardcore band. They started as a poetry reading project, that's why they almost always use spoken word lyrics (except in the case of their song 12 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qbk-xo6Zqs). Hell, their whole Hear, Here project is just them reading the poems of other people and putting it to music (except in the case of nine through 13, which is all original poetry.)

Honestly, I think they're more about making art and reciting poetry than they are about making loud and angry post-hardcore music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNk7aEJLYF0

>>74673587
wow I did not know all of this, thanks for the insight man. I'll keep this in mind next time I spin la dispute

>>74674006
exactly what music should be - art
Thanks for the introduction

>>74673292
hmm honestly i dont know anon it just reminds me of la dispute, like brand new as a band not just SF

>>74674113
Wildlife reminds me more of tdag

good thread. Wildlife and ROTH i played constantly last fall. couldnt get enough of them.

waiting for new album patiently. i just love jordans intensity

>>74674035
>>74673859
>>74674035
No problem guys. Hope you enjoy!

>>74667977
They're pretty much the Radiohead of Emo.

Check that shit, yo

Good thread, senpai.

Here's an interview/podcast where the singer of La Dispute really dissects Wildlife. Really, really cool: https://ladispute.bandcamp.com/album/conversations

>>74674351
Awww shit, I was hoping someone would post this. Wildlife is a crazy record and deserves praise

>>74674005
I liked Weatherbox a lot
Mansions, at least Dig Up the Dead and to an extent Doom Loop I love but it's not as "mature"

As an outside recommendation Hell or High Water by As Cities Burn you might like, the rest of their stuff isn't really the same vibe (though I like pretty much all of it)

>>74667977
they're one of my favorite bands. its a beautiful blend of emo angst, while having a unique ambient, peaceful drone to it. devil and god does it best, daisy does it as well, though with a little more power. they do a beautiful job setting a meloncholy mood. the only complaint i can think of off the top of my head is that the lyrics are meh at times. some are really out there and deep, while others are bland. especially the beginning of the devil and god, where the chorus is just "yeah" over and over. but i love them. so much.

>>74674519
s/o for dig up the dead. my 2011 aoty for sure.

“call me when it’s over” got me through a pretty rough breakup

Murmuring followed by screaming and wailing guitars. Pretty terrible lyrics too

>>74675020
>he doesn't like screaming and wailing guitars

>>74672275
thought the exact same thing

>>74672275
>>74672434
In same logic you can hear a lot of brock's influence for sure

Best song on SF?
Worst song on SF?
I'm having a hard time finding a weak link at all.

>>74672971
God those are cringe song titles

>>74667977

This is my first Brand New album. I'm really really enjoying. I'll have to listen to the devil and god are angry or w/e

>>74672971
Why the fuck aren't they coming anywhere close to Seattle?

>>74675334
Most of those are from their pop punk shit when they started

>>74675339
Also listen to Deja Entendu.

>people are actually nonironically praising shitty teenage bands like Brand New and La Dispute

what the fuck happened to you /mu/

>>74675394
If you're gonna listen to pop punk at least listen to shit that doesn't take itself too seriously and doesn't have massively faggoty lyrics with limp wristed interludes

>>74675266
My favorites are In the Water, 451, and Same Logic/Teeth
Least would have to be Cant Get It Out, it's still a good song but it seems samey, like I've heard it before.

9.5/10, will probably put this above TDAG in the future

>>74675426
It's similar to what happened with /pol/. The antisemitism and nazi stuff started as a joke but drew in real crazy people. Poe's law kicks in. And now we have shit-tier bangs like brand new being worshipped.

>>74675436
I wouldn't call DE pop punk, if anything it might be the transitional phase between their pop punk beginnings and more experimental post-hardcore.

>>74667977
that chick is so hot

>>74675426
>If looks could kill my job would be staring
WOW SO CLEVER AND DEEP MUH FEELS

>songs about chicks he's fucked and being sad and shit with lots of random religious imagery tossed in without the elegance or talent of Nick Cave
Holy shit so poetry xD

>a lot of their hits have plagiarized melodies
Omg there's so many songs though stuff is gonna sound similar dude!

>music is highly derivative of better bands
DUDE SO ORIGINAL :D

I swear to fucking Christ /mu/ is underage. This shit is circle jerked on Reddit and some of the biggest spergs I've ever encountered (one dude is in his mid 20s, creeps on little girls online and has the maturity of a 12 year old... He likes 99% shitty pop punk and he considers brand new one of the best bands ever) with borderline retarded mental capacities love this band.

I don't fucking understand it

>>74675469
It's pop punk as fuck, and the most popular songs on it are pure pop punk. They just have a heavy emo tinge to it with a lot of other frills tossed in. Nothing after that album is pop punk though, you're delusional if you think it's experimental

>>74675508
t. SoundCloud rap fan

>>74675426
I unironically still listen to Panic at the Disco.
Not sure what you want from me dude. I just never had the phase where I start hating everything I liked as a teenager because it's "juvenile"

>>74675554
Well if it's pop punk it's the best pop punk I've ever heard then.

>>74669431
6^)

done

So whats the verdict on Science Fiction? Do I like it?

>>74675508
is this a new pasta?
>>74675426
La Dispute is great you just have shit taste

>>74675580
Same

>>74675598
You like it, but for some reason you prefer The Devil and God.

>>74675598
You like it, but cautiously. You wish it was more like Daisy and you're disappointed they gave in to TDAG losers.
You're waiting to see how fans in general receive it so you can make sure you maintain your (superior and refined) contrarian pro-Daisy anti-TDAG opinion. Saying you dislike it now could backfire if everyone ultimately turns on it as TOO different from TDAG.

>>74675508
>/mu/
>daily memerap, kpop, grimes, and frogposting threads
>literally a """patrician""" indieheads with way more shitposting
Are you new or are you really just now realizing this board is shit?

>>74675660
>>74675637
Holy fuck dude listening to the first couple tracks and its god tier

>>74675805
It's way better than I'd expected after the stuff since Daisy
I like Could Never Be Heaven a whole lot and Same Logic is probably the best on the album

Best Brand New record is the Fight Off Your Demons demos. Glad Science Fiction has a lot of that vibe to it.

Brand New is also GOAT tier for record covers excluding their debut.

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>>74675935
As in album art, I mean.

Personally Brand New is one of my favorite bands in general. I'd probably rate their discog like this;

TDAGARIM 10/10, Science Fiction honestly 10/10, Daisy 9.5/10, Deja 8.5-9/10 and then YFW 6-7/10 love this band and pretty much everything theyve released

>Daisy better than Deja Entendu

As a huge fan I'd give Daisy 7.5 and Deja a 9.

I Am A Nightmare is so bland and shitty that I don't know how post-Deja Brand New could have ever produced it.

the devil and god is one of the best albums ive ever listened to. brand new is definitely worth looking into

>>74676162
it's grower not a shower

YFW is ok. You had to have been a preteen when it first came out to appreciate it's cringey angst. Deja Entendu is their best, with TDaG trailing close behind. The rest is whatever.

>>74676220
YFW has one of the best Brand New songs ever, Soco Amoretto Lime.

>>74676279
True, i also like Jude Law and No Seatbelt Song. I'm just recognizing it's music from a bygone era, whereas DE and TDaG don't age as much.

>>74675508
yeah dude take it for what it is or leave it

Science Fiction is better than TDAG.

Not all music is good, but all music is worth looking in to. Fucking pleb.

>>74676220
>To like X record you had to have been a preteen to appreciate it's cringey angst
>Says Deja Entendu is their best
TDaG and Science Fiction are best for their maturity. Especially in Science Fiction.

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>>74675935
YFW re-release has really good cover art

>>74678007
Goes nicely with rest of their discography.

>>74675266
The biggest weak link is how it ends.

>>74676162
It came out around the time Jesse had an interview that I read where he said they were leaving daisy and exploring other avenues for their music to take, specifically other ways to branch out from tdag and deja Daisy being one route they hoped to forge another one with thew new album which ended up being SF.

So i like to look at I am a Nightmare like their 3 demos ep as them revisiting their older sound and playing with it trying to find something good.

>>74675954
I know the stop clock is from YFW, but I like how this image actually includes Science Fiction in the form of the chess board, referring to the writing of the back of the envelope on the limited early release version that includes the dialogue from the 2001: Space Odyssey chess scene.

I'm actually a bit disappointed that that sound clip wasn't used in the album, although maybe it would've been too I'm the nose for what they were going for.

>>74678007
Has anyone got the links to the bonus songs from this release? I bought the record but I must have lost the songs I downloaded when I was cleaning up my library.

>>74671779
You forgot to fill the last 2 spaces for Sowing Season

>>74671712
disgusting

>>74671779
The album versions of Luca and Sowing Season are both worse than the FOYD versions

>>74671731
>Good to Know only 7
Nope

>>74667977
Brand New is emo for people who don't like emo

>>74681994
Fuck off

>>74682000
You know in your heart it's true

>>74682008
Keep your shitty memes out of here

>>74682034
>memes

>>74673587
I had no idea Wildlife was actually this complex. I love that album but this just gives it even more weight imo.

Def a top 3 for me

>>74681994
this is true t b h

>>74676162
I am a nightmare is a solid fun song idk what you are talking about. It's not as "deep" as devil and god but who gives a fuck, it's a single

I feel like the only BN fan who doesn't like Science Fiction right now

>>74683273
I got halfway through and stopped. There didn't seem to be much urgency or variety in it. Maybe when this all shakes out, SF will still be well regarded, but I doubt it will have the unanimous overwhelming praise it has in this thread

>>74683273
Don't come running to me when they're coming for you

Had lit me up on loop for ten minutes.. I.. I don't want to go forward.. I don't want this to be their last album. I... please..

>>74683525
>Had lit me up on loop for ten minutes
>song is over 6 minutes long
>he didn't even listen to it twice
this nigga

>>74667977
Saw them live for free in 2003 supporting Incubus.
They were incredible.
Always been a fan of Brand New since Your Favourite Weapon... loved the pop punk sound, love the sound they've matured into.
One of the few bands to have never put out a bad record.

>>74683563

Haven't made it through it once yet, keeo skipping back to the start.

>>74667977
i can't get it

>>74681994
>Kino - Daisy

>>74667977
Brand New was always relatable emoshit for a certain age group.

>YFW
Late middle school/early high school drama
>Deja
Coming to adulthood and living with scummy decisions
>DnG
Post college realization of wasted time
>Daisy
I'll never get why people like this album that much. It was painfully hard to relate to. I don't hate it, but it's so jarring compared to the progression before it.
>SciFi
I feel this should have come before Daisy

>>74683273
>>74683394
I didn't like it at first but gave it more listens - it needs setting time, for sure, like Daisy did imo.

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>>74667977
IDK but this is pretty good

Seeing them again in November, great band Live. Seen them with Basement supporting last time in a venue for theatre shows

If you've just heard of them from the new album, I'd suggest to work backwards rather than from the beginning. Daisy is most like the new album, Devil and God is similar in a way to Daisy but is way more emo, then the rockier elements from that album transition well into listening to Deja En Tendu. Then finish off with the pop punk Your Favourite Weapon

>>74685002
Shut My Eyes and Stop Torturing Me are great, still prefer the Tigers Jaw album though

who /relatingtoBatterUpwaytoomuch/ here?

Can't Get it Out had some lines that hit me pretty hard too

Let's be honest, Your Favorite Weapon is not a good album. Only people who grew up with it will claim it is

Had listened to it before when I was just getting into music but I'd forgotten everything about it so I relistened to The Devil and God last night
It was pretty good I guess, nothing special desu but still a positive experience. Sowing Season is a legitimately great song and so is Jesus Christ but other than that I just remember thinking "yeah I'd rather be doing this than be listening to something else"

>>74685623
Same. Batter Up is such a defeated song.

>>74680874
hit up sophie's floorboard

>>74667977
Deja Entendu has the absolutely worst album art I have ever seen. It isn't even a contest.

Tommy Gun is my favorite song

>>74686728
What is so bad about it

>>74687933
Anything astronaut themed is pretty tacky from the get-go. Disgusting colors and textures that look like vomit, typefaces work against each other instead of together, it looks like my 8 year old cousin bought a "cool" graphic tee from pacsun or journeys. Its pseudo emotive, doesn't complement the music on the album in any way shape or form. Not to mention the people who get horrendous tattoos of the astronaut for all the sick reddit karma lelz XD

>>74683394

I feel the same way. I'm relistening, but it's still not doing that much for me. I guess it's closer to Daisy than any of their previous work, and I was never huge on Daisy, either...I find both Daisy and SF okay, but I forget the tunes immediately after listening.

>>74672762
La Dispute have written some of the most truly embarrassing music of all time. One of Brand New's best qualities is their self-awareness with regard to the absurd melodrama of the genre they are in. Jordan Dreyer lacks a single iota of this self-awareness and needs a good hard slap because of it.

>>74667977
/mu/ core alt-rock is fucking emo shit to me

>>74686058
Good call, cheers