Sparklehorse is better than Elliott Smith /thread

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His mouth sounds so wet in the studio recordings I can't bring myself to listen...I'm sorry.

>>74637236
I don't know what that means

sparklehorse is hit or miss as fuck and i'm sick of his animal metaphors

elliott is objectively a much better and massively more influential songwriter and lyricist. nothing feels as "close" to me as a listener than elliott, especially not mark who often seems disingenuous and distant

>>74637357
It sounds like he keeps a lot of spit in his mouth when he sings. Turns me off of the (good) music.

I mean Either/Or is better than everything Sparklehorse put out besides It's a Wonderful Life which is better than everything Elliott Smith put out, besides Either/Or.

>>74637387
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elliott is a better lyricist and songwriter; his stuff is more original and distinct, and sparklehorse so often falls into "NMH-esque vague animal metaphor" like "im full of bees who died at sea" and thats in one of his best songs

i guess its b8 but whatever

>>74637387
>sparklehorse is hit or miss as fuck
like elliott smith

It's A Wonderful Life and Dark Night of the SOul are both better albums than all of Elliott Smiths albums.

Elliott Smith fits squarely into the overrated underrated category.

>>74637460
it's not a coincidence that elliott smith is more influential and successful than sparklehorse. i like sparklehorse, but i honestly don't get how you could have such a high opinion of his music. like what is so special about sparklehorse's music?

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I prefer this sparklehorse

>>74637591
he wrote better melodies

it's very simple

Better album goes to sparklehorse (Its a Wonderful Life)

Better posthumous album goes to


Sparklehorse (DNOTS)

From a Basement on the HIll and New Moon were disasters

>>74637675
really? i think sparklehorse has pretty good melodies, but melodies are usually my favorite thing about the music i like, and i think elliott smith is better by a long shot. sparklehorse has way more limited melodic variety and range, and his melodic ideas tend to be more fragmented than elliott's, whose tend to be very cohesive.

idk, i can only listen to someone sing up and down the first three scale degrees so many times without much else going on before i hit a ceiling with how much i can appreciate it. like sparklehorse pretty much only writes vocal melodies in the pentatonic scale, and pretty much exclusively with degrees 1 2 3 and 5. This is okay, but isn't something that makes him particularly great imo, and elliott's ability to tread outside of that box is something i like about him. Sparklehorse's vocal melodies feel solid to me, but not much more, like slightly less interesting vocal melodies than YHF/Summerteeth-era Wilco.

>>74637620
I don't see any sparklehorses in your photo, just an onahole

>>74638042
You delete this right now.

>>74637719
>From a Basement on the HIll and New Moon were disasters

you've got to be fucking kidding me

from a basement is probably the greatest fucking posthumous album ever, and new moon is an incredible collection of what's supposed to be shitty "unreleased" and fragmented material

>>74638052
huh? what are you talking about? you're the one posting a picture of an (admittedly choice) onahole on a music board...

>>74638056
>from a basement is probably the greatest fucking posthumous album ever,
Which isn't really saying much

It has two good songs.

Dark Night of the Soul is much, much better.

>>74638069
I said DELETE

>>74638085
don't talk to me.

>>74638070
calling dark night of the soul a posthumous album in the vein of From a Basement is stupid; DNotS has more in common with Mermaid Avenue than it does with FaBotH.

>>74637782
Rec me some melodic albums

>>74638171
elliott smith - either/or

>>74638144
iirc that album was only about 60% finished when mark killed himself

btw, i remember when mark did it. no one here even talked about it. fucking sad

>>74638171
preface this by saying there's a strong bias for accessible and refined melody here, so im thinking more Beatles and less Phish.

Obvious-tier that you've probably already heard: just about all Beatles, Beach Boys (Pet Sounds and Surfs Up specifically), Sufjan Stevens (esp Illinoise, Michigan, and Carrie and Lowell), Elliott Smith (my favorite is XO but that's a really unpopular opinion, so maybe start with either/or and work your way around from there, but it's all really good and quite melodic), the first three Belle and Sebastian albums, the first two Bon Iver albums, everything by Vampire Weekend.

Slightly-less-obvious tier: New Pornographers (all good but especially mass romantic and twin cinema and electric version), Wye Oak (civilian and shriek), School of Seven Bells (alpinisms), Andrew Bird (i actually think his most refined melodies are on his most recent album, Are You Serious) Chairlift (probably their most recent, but one of my favorite melodies ever is the bridge in I Belong In Your Arms off their album "Something"), Rilo Kiley (Under the Blacklight and Execution Of All Things), Ryan Adams (Gold and Heartbreaker), Whiskeytown (strangers almanac), Crystal Castles (I-III)

Idk how obvious tier: Old 97's (Satellite Rides and generally earlier stuff), Andy Shauf (esp Bearer of Bad News), Charly Bliss (Guppy), You Won't (Revolutionaries), Kishi Bashi (Sonderlust), Big Thief (both albums), Adrianne Lenker (just about anything), Saintseneca (Such Things), The Go! Team (the scene between)

honestly a ton of pop is great too, like early FallOut Boy and Green Day until 21st Century Breakdown, although that's often less smart and interesting. Listen to an Abba greatest hits if you like really tight poppy melody.

im leaving off so so much but i hope someone listens to one of these albums and likes it

>>74638262
yeah, and don't get me wrong, it's great, but i dont think it's fair to compare it to Basement.

yeah, i wasn't on this board when he did it, but i can imagine people not giving a shit. /mu/ is 98% shit, i feel like the rest of us stick around because that 2% can be so amazing