/prod/ - Music Production General

>>74612803
how could I fix the mixing on this?
https://clyp.it/ivbxiqze

>>74612861
doesn't sound too shit to me, my man.

maybe lower the piano a good 5-10% or so, bring up the bells and hats. the stereo hat is sort of awkward to me, but if that's how you like it, more power to you. the bass is fine. the kick is appropriately punchy, maybe a little overpresent. i'd bring up the snare a little.

https://clyp.it/zwv3kqy4

I've tried to implement some suggestions on the mix from the last thread. How's this sounding?

>>74613186
thank you.didn't think anybody would respond. Anyway, ill definitely do that.

>>74613217
synths overused and the groove feels very off between the synth and kick

try switching things up and add more to it. song's a decent idea but the arrangement sucks

>>74613186
>>74612861
spot on, agreed on everything except i don't think the kick is "overpresent"

polyrythm melody
https://clyp.it/hhwufwpu
anyone have an idea on how to add appropriate drums to this?

>>74613588
assuming this is in 5/4, a good rhythm for this would be a kick on 1 and 5, and a snare on 4, with your choice of hats, probably simply on beat is the best.

>https://clyp.it/vc4e2ewq#

repost from last thread, would really like some opinions on this
I think the tempo might be a little bit too slow, maybe also add the snappy bit of the kick to every sample instead of only once every bar?

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Best way to mic a melodica?

>>74614987
maybe a shaker in there

definitely quicken it a touch, and make the kick snappier. sidechain the synth harder

>>74615231
lol have you even tried it yet

>>74614987
>https://clyp.it/vc4e2ewq#
I think you kinda ruined the vibe by going from a 4/4 rhythm to something that was heavy on the 1 and 3 so abruptly. Also I don't think the hat groove is doing the beat any favors towards the end there. I wanted to hear a 4/4 percussion or hat thing going on underneath the rest of the track.

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>>74612803
I'm gonna be nostalgic about my life how it is right now. Making music with my friends every night and getting stoned. I'm becoming aware that everything I do right now is going to be lasting memories. Sorry if this is gay.

>>74615618
well at least you've made a stranger jealous of your room... And of having friends

):

>>74615646
I'm sorry lad not my intentions. Send me clyps and I'll give you thoughtful critiques.

What fl studio version should i get?

>>74615710
11. I prefer the workflow to 12. Though I haven't used FL studio in about 2 years.

I wanna make a collab album with my friend but we are very different with genres and what daws we use. I use Garageband x Audacity and he uses this app called "Music Maker Jam" and whenever he samples stuff he just takes it and loops it's or just steals the whole song. What should I do?

>>74615831
lmao

>>74615831
Sounds like you're both inexperienced. I don't exactly understand what your question is.

>>74615831
>Music Maker Jam

>>74615831
If he is just looping stuff, just ask him to send you the pre-processed .wav files, then work together on the mixing using Garage band.

>>74615618
>tfw spent all my precious time with a friend just dicking around on guitars without really doing much
>now that he moved away I started really getting into production
>still send each other clips every now and then but too far away to get together and have fun like before
>producing alone isn't nearly as fun as having someone around for ideas and motivation
it is what it is
also nice room man but get off bdo that shit is gonna eat up your life, stop now before it's too late

>>74615986
what's bdo?

i want my life eaten up

>>74616019
black desert online
it's a korean mmo, you definitely don't want it

>>74615986
It really is different. Great original ideas can spawn from it, it's a great feeling. And I know, it's getting pretty bad. I still find time for everything else and my life is normal but fuck I've put 150 hours into it in just two weeks. I've just been afk fishing for days while I do other more productive things.

>>74616045
>150 hours into it in just two weeks

i'm disgusted just to be posting in the same thread as you

>>74616045
I'd seriously recommend you to drop the game asap
for me it got to the point where I would spend sessions of well over 70 hours logged on at a time, before I finally realized it's a vapid timesink
haven't logged on in 2 months now and got my shit back together

don't do it bro, it's not worth it

>>74615864
I've been making stuff for about 2 years now I'm kind of inexperienced but almost past being a beginner, I guess? But my question is how can I make music with him when he doesn't know anything.

>>74615883
I'll try this out thank you for this advice.

>tfw had phantom power switched on for 4 years and only realized yesterday after getting my first condenser mic
oops

>>74616084
Keep in mind majority of those hours were spent while I was asleep because of AFK grinding.

>>74616103
I suppose, but honestly I haven't stopped living my life the same way. Still making music, hanging out with others, socializing. But I can easily see how it would get really shitty real quick.

>>74616139
I'm running into this issue too. What you have to do is basically teach him how all this shit works. they need to have patience and stick with it so that you can actually make something. I have a friend who does vocals and I use Renoise and it's been so annoying to try and teach him what I've been doing. Especially once you through in synthesizer recording. I hate working with inexperienced people because it starts to not be fun and not a collaboration.

>>74616139
>how can I make music with him when he doesn't know anything.

you can't kiddo. sorry to say i've been there before, if he can't do anything you'll be dragging him along and having to explain constantly.

if he can sing or rap that could work, just find a way he can contribute. otherwise you're sol

>>74616103
i'm sorry but i lol'd. i've been an alky before so i get the cycle of addiction and how much of your life you can lose man, glad you got out

>>74616176
are you a neet or what? i spend half the time you spent on that game making music and i don't have time to do anything else outside of that and school etc

>>74616274
Yeah basically right now I'm a neet. I go back to college for audio engineering in September. So I've been just fucking around these last few months. Haven't had a job in about 6 months living off of mommybucks.

>>74616215
>>74616274
I'll try this out thanks for the advice

>>74616215
Also good luck with your friend I hope it goes well for you.

How can i make "Human Music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1jWdeRKvvk

>>74612803
I'm not entirely happy with having a discord, because that's the final step in fullfilling the circlejerk prophecy of generals, but I'm glad my meme album lives on as a bot.
What are you working on, /prod/?

>>74617354
be a human

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>>74613353
>groove feels very off between the synth and kick

that's called rhythm. not everything needs to go on the on-beats.

>try switching things up and add more to it.

nah

>song's a decent idea but the arrangement sucks

it is what it is. I was just having fun, not writing a violin concerto.

god damnit /prod, you are no fun at all. Sorry, this just made my asian dessert very salty.

>>74618454
This faggotry is not welcome in /prod/, please don't post here again.

-/prod/lord

is fl studios good for making experimental electronic music?

Can anyone give me some info on pirating software? I heard that using pirated stuff shows up in metadata in the final product, but I can't seem to find anything supporting this.

>>74619384
use Ableton with Max4Live if you want to be cool

>>74619392
Yeah it's encoded into ur wavs 8(

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>>74619384
Nah you use Renoise for that.

Not sure where to post, anyone recognize this? Feels very familiar to me, maybe from a boy band song or something random.

https://clyp.it/nj5yzq4t

https://discord.gg/hxPAHK

>>74619859
yeah i recognize it

pretty sure it's in spanish bro, can't remember the song name

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How do you guys deal with tinnitus?

I can only use in-ear earbuds to hear the sound of my computer so I can't really take a break from them.
Is there something I can do to improve the situation or prevent it from getting worse?

Would over-ear headphones help or it would be the same thing?

I made 7 seconds of music and I don't feel compelled to continue it https://clyp.it/qrma2xnl

>>74621183
Just loop that shit and add an 808 and you got trap

>>74621137
Wtf

Don't use headphones if you've got hearing issues man

>>74621486
But I can't do anything else.

>>74621478
I almost want to do this as a joke.

https://clyp.it/ncmwcy5w
mixdown is kinda shit, but just looking for critique on the ideas I'm trying out

>>74614987
Remove that robot voice shit and work more on cymbals.

>>74622985
Drums are weak but this has potential.


Considering upload this to sc as my first track:
https://clyp.it/b2eqmlso
Opinions?

how do i use synths

>>74623779
you select a sound and then press the keys to make it go bleep bloop

>>74623779
is this the /prod/ equivalent of "how do I hack"

>>74621137
You'll learn over time to get used to it

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Not quite sure what to think about this track, lads. I feel like something's wrong with it, but I can't figure out what it is.

https://clyp.it/r3zthn23

>>74624241
>https://clyp.it/r3zthn23

I like it but I'd like a bit more verb/room space on that lead intro sound. (beep boop.. beep bop) and watch your sub frequencies.

so if you use analog gear but record it digitally are you fucking retarded?

asking for a friend

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can anyone recommend me a good place to start making really funky instrument heavy songs with no actual instruments? ive been trying to use fl studio and playing around with synths and drums but nothing i try really gives me that sound im looking for, it all sounds kind of video gameish/bland.. do i need to get actual equipment or is there a daw/sound pack anyone knows about
for reference this is kinda the sound im going for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xprUtRW-SSU&index=4&list=LLV40QaPrz3H1S8kXXAv0n3w

Honest question, if I have awesome composition, mediocre production and almost no marketing skills, can I still make it?

>>74624581
Yes
It'll take a monetary investment though. Find a solid producer or a general working partner and shit will go your way

>>74624611
>monetary investment
>solid producer
But who do I pay for the search algorithm stuff? I'm sure there are people out there who like shit music...

>>74623779
Learn the principles of phase inversion.

the major problem i have is turning an idea i have into a full length track without it getting boring

like this
https://clyp.it/5zgzhqz3
idk what the fuck to do after this, like idk when this would come into the song how do i turn this shit into something

>>74612803
Since people are now starting to use the discord more are these threads just going to go extinct? People aren't posting nearly as frequently.

Hello prod/, I have a problem. My Prophet Pe08 is detuning itself all the time, I think it has something to do with the pitch wheel. Does anyone have experience with this? help please

>>74626762
Contact customer support, I've heard Dave Smith's is pretty good.

>>74626702
it's been at least a year since the discord first started, it's not like it's new

I really want to get a field recorder and also use it as an audio interface for recording on my computer as well. I've been looking at the tascam dr-40 and the zoom h4n. i probably wouldn't spend more then $200 on it though. Any recommendations?

>>74614403
ok thanks!

>as a beginner trying to learn ableton live online is a waste of your time
fuck you youtube!

https://clyp.it/hvtx1gzi

https://clyp.it/2lpgm2f1

Any sort of feedback/critique is highly appreciated.

>tried mastering for the first time ever

does anyone have a vst for ableton that's like the fl studio stereo shaper?

>>74612803

https://clyp.it/anaycuai

metal, been posted before, but I'm trying to work on bass guitar production so what do you think?

so far two DI bas signals, one high passed, one low passed, low end compressed, VST on high end for growl. Blended together and multiband compressor on group to control the lows. Bass ducked about -1.5 decibles.

I have never been happy with any bass I have recorded, but I think it's getting close.

>>74627729
If you have Max4Live I'd recommend Stereo Imager by Calvin Lanz

>>74612803
https://clyp.it/alqaphg1

post your fattest 808

>>74628057

https://clyp.it/hvtx1gzi

>>74628329
holy shit that's pretty fat

>>74627660
bullshit. Read the manual.

>>74624452
Get drum samples from real drums there are a ton online. Programm your standard pattern. Insert ghost notes where nothing is (low vel hits on off bets) to get this groovy feel.
Find out how to emulate rodes/Bass in FL. Otherwise Native Instruments has quite good samples for Kontakt.

The difficult Part would be what to play. Look into Jazz books on piano/bass/drums because it's quite difficult what they play.

>>74628560
edit: yes it's possible to get that sound without real instruments. But as i said find out what they play

I recorded the main out on a drum machine, but the snare sounds too boxy. How to fix without hurting other drum sounds? or is the best route layering in a new snare?

https://clyp.it/vojjjwqh

>>74621137
>How do you guys deal with tinnitus?
listen at lower volume and take breaks more often your tinnitus will never go away so dont be stupid and make it worse

here's a beat i made
im not really sure where to go with it though, should i keep working on it?
https://clyp.it/mzggmufk

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>https://clyp.it/nh5cqsvg

I'm kind of new to music, but so far I've dabbled in a lot of things/genres/whatever. I want to go to university for music at some point in my life.

Finally bought an electric guitar today and shat this out in 2 hours with my keyboard and my MS20 and some samples. I know it's not special but this is kind of my current /mu/ power level.

P-please tell me my dream isn't completely unrealistic and retarded, but be honest.

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>>74612803
how to get Fairlight sounds?

>>74631095
>University for music
this sounds like a bad idea

>>74631309
because of the lack of jobs or cause I'm shit?

I do have a career to fall back on so that's not exactly an issue. Plus central yurop so I get those sweet benefits.

yo you guys have a guy on digitalizing and curating vinyl?

>>74631168

I looked into this a while back - there's a Fairlight iPad app developed by the original Fairlight creator Peter Vogel - Bitley also do a Fairlight Kontakt library, available as a Reason ReFill too:

http://bitley.laconicsounds.net/fairlight-kontakt-r2/

>>74631401
*guide

>>74631366

>proud of being a welfare queen

this is why real countries don't respect you euroweenies

>>74631495
>jelous because I don't have to go 50k in debt to go to university
stay mad americlap.

But as I mentioned I do have a job and pay taxes, so I'm kind of paying it forward.

https://clyp.it/cjscigrs
bringing back that smooth laptop jazz

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>>74612803
https://clyp.it/qankk5qo

Tried making a Ceephax kinda beat. Any critiques or thoughts on it? MS20 and Virus Access were used in this song.

>>74631095
Yoooo ms20 brother. I like the use of it here and the melodies are nice. Almost reminds me of Muse. I would work on mastering, lot's of instruments in this clyp are clearly heard, unless that's intentional.

anyone got an electribe sampler? are they good? or should I save up for digitakt?

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https://clyp.it/uy03xvoq#

Honest CC please. Kind of a noisy, lo-fi beat, also a WIP.

>>74631168
the Fairlight factory sample disks are available for download, but straightforward sample playback isn't going to sound the same.

>>74632518
I'd pass on the electribe sampler

>>74632612
ok thanks bro
>cyberhug

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for those of you who have kontakt, how do you like it? would it be good for kinda orchestra like stuff? what are the best instruments in kontakt? whether it's third party or comes with the software

ty

>>74632712
i love it. the included factory library is full of usable stuff, some not so good, but mostly good not great though. ni pianos are really the only thing i constantly use kontakt for

i don't use strings that often but the factory library and session strings (come with complete) are fine for casual use where strings aren't the primary instrument. Most people who primarily use strings go third party but i don't know of any by name

>>74633219
meant komplete***

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https://clyp.it/3w2052dv Looking for some feedback, I'm really amateur. Let me know how it sounds in which ever device you are using.

>>74628560
thanks homie, do you know of any books start with?

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>tfw you will never be a producer during the 80s in Japan

>>74633492
Id rather be a producer in current day korea. Imagine getting blowjobs by random ksluts everyday

Oh fuck lads I'm about to drop 6 bills on an mk2. I'm scared

>>74633932
>6 bills
20s?

wtf man

>>74633996
????? The mk2 is $599

>>74633932
mk2 of what?

>make a track
>wait a few days
>listen to it
>hear something you don't remember putting on the track
Holy shit

>>74634166
listen to the same track long enough and you will eventually start hearing barely audible hissing and humming or other frequencies you don't want to hear

>>74634007
first three different results for "mk2 midi" are akai roland and novation

there are a lot of mk2s apparently >.>

>>74634184
truu

>>74634057
>>74634299
Maschine mk2 brehs

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Am i overthinking this shit lads? All I've done in 2 years is drum loops. I want to kms

>>74635185
How. Link what you make.

https://clyp.it/3uibtrcx

is this halfway decent composition? just started making music electronically about a month ago really trying to improve

>>74633492
yeah i sure wish i lived in an era where a modest collection of synths and drum machines would cost you as much as a car

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I made this song and video last week. how do i get fantano to like my music so I can be famous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmL6MxTNzNE

>>74635319
not really

lower the pad an octave, stop making the phrases on your lead so busy. a trick for some guitarists and i guess key players- try humming it or singing or whatever, you're going to run out of breath. give it space man

inb4 some faggot calls that advice stupid and ignores the goal of it ((((:

>>74635185
idk man good drums are pretty hard to get good at

>>74633295
pretty dull and aimless sounding honestly.

navi going constantly is really lame and sounds like you just didn't know what to put. try making the envelopes on your synths a bit snappier and a heavier groove on the drums

>>74632564
i thnk a zippy snare rather than a noisey one layered in or to replace the other one would help this... and you know some rapping

>>74631584
i can't tell if i like this or not lol. needs a fuck load of eq'ing to really see the potential of this track.... sounds way too cluttered in the high end.

>>74631558
oh....

>>74630898
i can only hear drums bruv. just keep working

>>74628989
hey i like this anon. just notch out wherever you're hearing the boxiness with a narrow eq... or rerecord every drum seperately

>>74627666
bass is hella loud on both mate. that's going to eat up limiter headroom like crazy. cool hats though.

>>74625423
>turning an idea i have into a full length track without it getting boring

it's all building and releasing tension and space. for example, where your song ends i can hear the progression shift down and it would instantly create a new harmony/feel to your song.

>>74623206
go ahead and upload if you're done with it if you want?

sounds like there should be some deep voiced dude rapping monotone over this. dope sound design man, i just wish there was something to grab on to.

>>74635876
stop

>>74635319
I really like the melody and the synth you just have to drive part of it in a certain direction but it sounds good just looping

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Halp me, bedroom folkfag here. I don't have a recording space or any money I just have a shite handheld mic. Is there a feature in a DAW that can minimize background / air conditioner noise?

How can I make the Bass come through a little harder on this? I like the kick but I feel like the actual bass hit is a little weak

https://clyp.it/qdio3hrm

>>74636216
>I just have a shite handheld mic
usb mic huh? if so then no. just make sure it's facing the other way and place a gate with a low threshold and play as loud as you can to fight the noise floor. that only might work.........

>>74636292
saturation, amp sim, boost upper mids. typical techniques

>>74636319
>saturation, amp sim, boost upper mids. typical techniques

Not gonna lie I'm surprised at how much this worked. Thanks!

I'm sick and tired of working on this song. Been at it for two weeks and it has changed drastically since I started it. It's not even the same song anymore. But for future reference, how would any of you versed in mixing and mastering improve this track? I'll ptobsbly go back to it eventually... the songs I'm making, I'll be selling commercially eventually as a soundtrack to something else I'm doing so I'd like to get the bset possible sound I can get in my room...

I worked on FL Studio 11 and used the stock multiband compressor to compress certain things, and bring up others. I think I even messed around with Maximus, tweaking things until I felt it sounded alright.


https://clyp.it/vudxbd50

Are there any production resources for stuff that falls in that techno/dub/ambient area? Everything dance related seems oriented towards mainstream shovelware type shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE7MOpCmuII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIHxDkaZFg0

>>74615618
>I want to PEE

>>74637622
>Everything dance related seems oriented towards mainstream shovelware type shit.

i mean pretty much all of the knowledge behind those techniques can be applied anywere.

the tracks you linked aren't particularly complicated. i only dabble in making stuff like this and 90% of it is just being really specific with your reverb/eq to get things into the background and place things in the appropriate space (though that can be said for mixing anything in general i guess.)

just take off some of the attack on your kicks, set up a longer reverb for specific drum hits apart from your main sends on the rest of you tracks, highpass and shelf out a lot more than you normally would for other genres.

thanks for introducing some new techno to me man

>>74637451
not listening on monitors rn but it sounds like you used panning for separating the leads in place of getting everything to mesh. They're too loud and need some good cuts. Go back to this and tweak it in mono and i think it should be really obvious what you need to fix.

>>74638270
>highpass and shelf out

just noticed this but i meant shelf out more of the highs if that didn't make sense right away

>>74637920
what do you think is in that bottle?

The other day I was watching some masterclass where the dude explains how to record/mix live drums.
Am I missing something or is using a drum machine et samples way easier to deal with?

>>74621137
how did you get tinnitus?

>>74638766
>is using a drum machine et samples way easier to deal with?

yeah no shit

there are infinitely more problems and techniques to mic'ing up a drum set. Nothing comes pre-sounding good like samples do

>>74638270
>>74638270
BBy good cuts you mean reduction in volume? Is that it?

What else wrong do you here with my mix?

I'm listening to it in mono right now and yeah the saw synth sound and the high pitched sound do seem louder. My issue when I was mixing it earlier was the high pitched sound sounded too loud no matter what, and if I lowered it too much it sounded too low.

I guess I'll be spending my day off working on this track.... again...

:(

It's been great for experience though...

/prod/, how simple is too simple for a beat? If the rap over it is really technical, is it alright to have a more simplistic beat? I'm trying to study this, but while I'm doing some reading, if you happen to have any good examples of over- or under-produced beats, let me know. Thanks in advance.

>>74639068
yes it's okay............

>>74639029
>reduction in volume
yes. "subtractive eq"

high frequencies don't need a lot of volume to hear. if they sound too loud "no matter what" cut something. those leads sounded like they'd be clashing anyway

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This is my first time actually trying to make something all feedback is welcome
https://soundcloud.com/shcreamer/schizo-chicken

>>74638766
>Am I missing something or is using a drum machine et samples way easier to deal with?
That's why drum replacing is so common.

>>74639219
I really like the reverb on the pads, that sounds great. The bass fuzz is really nice, but personally I'd start mixing up where it hits after the first time it cuts off. I'm not huge into that sound though, so I may not be the best to ask.

>>74639250
I did mix it up should I try making it a little more noticeable?

>>74631584
>https://clyp.it/qankk5qo


cool idea but like the other poster said you should look into EQ'ing and sound design, you could clear up the frequencies and still have the exact same ideas /instrumentation

>>74639219
>soundcloud

faggot

>>74639250
shouldn't even respond

>>74621137
I get it on occasion and singing the note that is ringing with mouth closed so it vibrates up into my head makes it go away for me.

>>74639356
thanks for the love brother

>>74639391
just read the op

>>74639414
oops too late now sorry

>>74639414
>>74639356
https://clyp.it/ymxztq44
There sorry about that uwu

>>74639282
I meant throwing in multiple notes in each hit, you could even just go for scales and it'd probably switch things up.

>>74639356
I felt helpful at the time and I don't mind thi
fuck
>>74639450
>uwu

>>74639467
I think I would need to change up the whole thing I honestly just spent like 2 hours on it tonight and thats it add some triplets and shit maybe some syncopation if im feeling really spicy

>>74639492
Sure man, I dont mind the beat but its just a bit too blocky for my tastes. Doesnt mean its bad, just means its different. Maybe something you could do is use the notes from the first bit, but find a progression in them. I feel like that'd make it smoother.

>>74639534
Note taken thanks

>>74633295
I hear those samples all the time in future funk stuff. Not too bad, though.

The drums are kind of pushed back into the mix. I think you should emphasize the percussion a bit more to give this track some more energy. Like, the hihats are pretty sparse. You're doing the thing where you hit them in a really tight succession (I can't remember the name for it). But when that's not going on, most of the time, they're largely hitting on the down beats rather than on your up beats as well. That's not the only thing, though. Like, the drums otherwise, the bassy woogs, and samples happen on downbeats. It really puts a strong focus on how rigid and basic the pattern is. Filling stuff in between with more than just the melody would help out a lot.

Just my two cents. Keep making music

>>74639609
To add to this, if you like the slower pace at times, you could even alternate them. It'd give it a nice contrast between the two speeds

>>74634450
Save a few more dollahs and get the studio