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>>74556071
https://clyp.it/tswysmq2

Any critiques and thoughts on this? Right now this is just the beat and me and my friend plan on having lyrics he wrote on it.

https://clyp.it/ykvba35a

https://clyp.it/dodqy0pe

Two other songs we worked on and plan to make an EP with. Any thoughts or critiques on these too would be cool.

what's Diplo up to these days

is novation peak good compared DSI rev2?

>>74557183
Dunno of the peak is good but DSI is a meme.

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>just get started, using Logic pretty okay
>be curious about Metasynth/Iris 2
>spend all day realizing they're the hugest pains in the ass to find complete downloads for

They're just memes anyway, right...?

https://clyp.it/0kku0tg1
Stole a Duran Duran song and turned it into this. Would appreciate feedback.

>>74557647
Iris is arca core so no

Izotope has a discount for students

>>74558176
I kind of cobbled together Iris 1 and 2 into something halfway functional, but I'm still probably doing everything wrong. Spent so much energy trying to get the shit to work that I don't have any drive to see what's under the hood really.

Using the Metasynth demo, it seems like a shitton more fun to use.

>>74558660
Try absynth 5 homie

Hey I'm trying to make beats in FL studio just for fun
Any recommendations or tips on what drumpacks or plugins I should use
Also how can I fix my snares and 808s to sound louder but without much distortion

>>74559171
Whatever comes with fl. turn them up

I've got no idea what sampler people use outside of drum rack in ableton but native instruments battery comes with a lot of solid stuff

>>74556071

Gen. R. D. James, during the British Intelligence Civil War, 1863. (Daguerreotype, C. Cunningham)

>>74556156
Really like the feel of the first 2, nice job anon!

>>74559396
Suck a cock limp dick brit.

Can anyone give me a sox command example for multiplying an audio sample by a sinus wave?

Late night bump

anyone got experience with the motu microbook 2c?
i basically need something to record my microbrute and sp 303 with.

>>74556071
Can you remove the word Soundcloud from the text so my filter doesn't catch this thread.

Anyone use supercollider? never see it talked about

>>74556071
morning bump

what are some producers with really meticulous and polished productions?

>>74565967
Max Cooper - Emergence
Jon Hopkins - Immunity
Dntel - Life Is Full Of Possibilities

Beautiful albums with insane production.

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losin it, i think

https://clyp.it/3xv4rfrv

is there any way i can minimize the amount that my sub bass gets interfered with by low frequencies in the environment like car engines and what not?

>>74566248
yeah just pull the levels of the environment down

>>74566248
>low frequencies in the environment like car engines and what not
You mean the noise that comes from outside your house?
Better insulation (in your windows and your walls) or move somewhere else if you can.

You can also try to use headphones to check things.

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How do I into HATE channel techno? What sample packs, techniques etc.?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHyr6oBu5K8

>>74566346
but how come i can listen to any given pop/radio song and the bass won't phase with anything?

>>74566382
No idea.
Maybe it does and you just don't hear it because you can't discern the individual instruments as well as with one of your songs where you know how they're supposed to sound.

Or maybe they're mixed very well, so the phasing is sort of masked by the whole mix (it's likely that this isn't even a thing and I'm just talking out of my ass).

It's hard to tell without actually hearing the problem.

Anyone with any clue how to replicate this bass sound?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht-oUO6I-Y4

My guess is some kind of wavetable that goes from smooth to jagged but all my attempts have been no way near this kind of sound.

>>74567429
Sounds like a lowpass filter and some distortion with the dry/wet being automated.

>>74567550
Not sure how to put all those pieces together properly. The beggining looks like a sine wave because of all the sub but replicating the sound on the tail end is where I'm struggling.

Distortion before or after the filter? Sine wave all the way through? What kind of distortion?

If I had a better understanding I could throw something together in reaktor likely, but even though I know the fundamentals of synthesis, replicating sounds is a whole other story.

I've already spent longer than I'd like to admit on this.

>>74567721
The sub is a separate sine wave.
The bass is either a saw or square (or triangle) with a lowpass filter to roll off the higher frequencies and then some sort of distortion afterwards.
The distortion seems rather hard (due to the high-end harmonics) but kept low in volume with the dry/wet knob closer to 0% than to 100%.

At least this is what it sounds like to me.

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>>74567429

Sounds triple-layered. Sub low end that's fairly "light" in the 40-80hz range, crunchy saw, and maybe a Benny Benassi-esque higher end that's in tandem with the saw? It gets squashed 13rd of the way through and filtered towards the end, though.

Either that, or go look for a Benny Benassi how-to and cut the top.

You could try emailing the guy who did the ost. Lots of the indie music guys respond if you're nice enough.

So I have no idea how to acoustically treat my room since I don't have enough money to get it all measured out and custom treat it and I kinda don't wanna just slap some bass traps in the corners and some panels on the walls without knowing what I'm doing.

Should I get a monitor calibration mic/software bundle like Sonarworks Reference 3 or IK Multimedia Arc 2.5 to calibrate my monitors to my room first, or rather spend the same money on self-made acoustic treatment? How did you guys treat your room/calibrate your monitors, if at all?

While we're talking about recreating sounds, anyone got an idea on how to make this bass sound (starts a 0:09)? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcnBRjELW_s

>>74567793
This is working out pretty well actually.
I did two oscs, one unfiltered sin and one saw running through a lowpass at half cutoff and parabolic shaper before the filter set to full drive.
I but a brauner tube at the end also at full drive and set both distortions dry with a shared macro sending them wet, but also opening up the filter with the same macro on top of that seemed to work.

Thanks for the advice.

>>74568043
I'm satisfied with understanding how to roughly replicate the sound at this point - I will look up whatever the fuck a Benny Benassi is though.

>>74568225
You're welcome man.

Recreating sounds accurately is extremely hard though, so don't feel discouraged if you don't get it perfectly right.
Unless you're getyoursnackon it's normal.

>>74568137
I'm not sure what it is, but I remember getting similar sounds by playing a sine wave (IIRC with a pitch envelope, but I'm not sure), then putting a delay on it with medium feedback and very short time (<100 ms), then changing the time while the sound was playing.

If you're using Ableton, try right-clicking the name of the delay (once you put it in your chain) and selecting different modes (Repitch, Fade, Jump) to see which one works best.

Anyway, the sound is layered, so it's pretty hard to analyzed.
It sounds like a bass going down in pitch, layered with something with the same timbre (possibly the same sound one octave above) that keeps a steady pitch and decays in volume pretty fast, getting blended into the reverb, which is also a big part of the sound.

>>74568417
>pretty hard to analyzed.
Meant to say "analyze it".
My bad.

>>74568417
>similar sounds by playing a sine wave (IIRC with a pitch envelope, but I'm not sure)
yeah, that is sort of what I thought as well. I figured it was some kind of fm synthesis.
Not having any luck recreating it though. Thanks anyway

>>74568650
It could be very well "Just" FM synthesis, or even just regular subtractive synthesis, I don't know.

>>74564528
no bitch

>>74556156
Really like these tracks but hats are annoying in the first tho

Finally finished this overproduced crap
https://clyp.it/dodwdzsg

>tfw you have a bunch of rare 32-bit-only VSTs so you can either use 32 bit Live or not use the VSTs
>tfw you accidentally your audionews account and can't torrent jbridge either
FUCK

>>74571316
jbridge is only 17 shekels goy just buy it

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>>74571316
>tfw you're sitting on the shitter at work
>tfw you for once come up with a decent bass line
>forget it once I sit down by my computer

>>74571372
that's why when I come up with a melody, no matter how autistic it'll seem, I pull up my phone and hum/whistle into the voice recorder/voice memo program to save it so I won't forget it

>>74571359
my college textbooks are $200 bucks a pop too

>>74571415
college textbooks are such a ripoff

>>74568091
i haven't bothered but you should figure out what obstacles if any even exist in your room

https://www.roomeqwizard.com/

>>74571316
i lost sylenth1 to moving on from 32 bit ableton ;____;

>>74571485
>>74571415
buy those fuckers used wth. i haven't spent more than 40 bucks on a book, if it's more expensive then rent

>>74571316
>tfw you have a bunch of rare 32-bit-only VSTs so you can either use 32 bit Live or not use the VSTs
>>74571541
>i lost sylenth1 to moving on from 32 bit ableton ;____;
Ableton devs sound like a bunch of incompetent doofi lel
I use fucking Fruity Loops and it handles both 32 and 64 bit plugins just fine

>>74571316
>>74571541
there is jbridge 1.74 on rutracker

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>>74571485
>>74571541

don't get me started. They've hamstrung the used book market (((((((((Access Codes)))))))))))))) now too.
I could buy my textbook used, but part of the textbooks are online-only and it's only available with a one-time-use access code included in the textbook, which surprisingly to no one makes the textbook worthless used. Gee, I wonder why they would do that.

and this shit's legal

just get pdfs of your college textbooks lmao for free

>>74571632
see
>>74571628

>>74571628
that should be WITH (((((((((((Access Codes)))))))))))

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>>74571359
alright I coughed u-
>All orders are processed manually... up to 24 hours for your software to be emailed to you...
reeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>74571628
daym that's insane

>>74571745
yeah, I can't even re-resell the book I'm only going to be using for 3 months.

Any guides to performing live electronics on a laptop? I think using a laptop is going to be the new hip contrarianism now that everyone is bringing out hardware.

>>74571625
>>74571604
desu i'll just buy it

i've been using it for 4 years, i think that's a long enough demo. komplete's got me covered in the meantime while i'm jobless :p

>>74571628
>(((((((((Access Codes)))))))))))))

yeah this is where monopolies and lack of government interference put us mates.

>>74572005
>I think using a laptop is going to be the new hip contrarianism now that everyone is bringing out hardware.

not really man, and laptop based shows suck to watch lol

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>>74568091
Room EQ Wizard is a good piece of software for analyzing your room. You can also get the miniDSP UMIK-1 mic, which is a calibrated USB mic that is designed to be flat enough to analyze rooms with. Each mic come with a unique calibration file

>>74572179
>not really man, and laptop based shows suck to watch lol
That's the point though. It makes the show a solely musical experience.

>>74572835
desu that's a quick way to lose peoples attention but okay lol

i'm not saying this with a bunch of stupid gimicks and crowd banter in mind- bands get to play their songs differently every time they perform and actually... you know perform

there's something to be said for more "cerebral" shows, but lights, visuals, watching some kind of tactile interaction is still part of that. nobody wants to sit down and just listen while some guy hovers over a laptop, otherwise they'd just stay at home and listen to the songs lol

Does this song sound cheesy?
It's just a random section of the song so it kind just begins. But do the synths sound cheesy and outdated?
I've been doing this for about a year.
https://clyp.it/5jnil25k

/r/ pls

>>74573251
yes. wouldn't sound out of place in a cartoony little videogame

not bad for a year at all mate

>>74569128
>overproduced
not really? the sounds are pretty good but the song is boring honestly. sounds like a bunch of transitions without a whole lot happening

>>74557958
>>74557958
boring desu. drums sound pretty 80s but confused about hiphop, synths sound somewhat random. track doesn't seem to go anywhere.

>>74566197
i'd use a different kick
the background seems a little too washed out

>>74573434
stop with the fucking trips already wtf

valhalla vintage verb

>>74573503
vallhala vintage verb sounds good but doesnt sound vintage neither it has a density knob

how i can add trap/digital/synth instruments to this
https://55chan.org/mu/src/1502648219662.ogg

>>74573622
idk then, i don't use it lol

i just use plates/springs in guitar rig when the time calls

>>74573647
first of all don't

secondly just add them? unless you're asking exactly what to play i don't know what kind of answer you expected. isn't this a cover

>>74573691
im askin not what to play but where i can add it like an 808 or the track cant take more than a background synth
yes its a cover

Is there anything that could be considered creative about this? Should I just stop this interest of music dead in its tracks? This is a very rough and unedited demo I put together in Audacity a month ago. I made percussion sounds in Audacity itself so no compressed kick basses, but all of the instrumentation was done on a Korg minilogue. Can anyone recommend me a budget drum machine and/or a DAW good for recording audio?

Again, sorry for the horrendous mixing and editing.

https://clyp.it/efxomyad

>>74573503
>confused about hiphop
It'd be cool if you could elaborate. I don't listen to hip hop at all but most of my samples come from hip hop artists. What is out of place about them?

>>74573855
>Should I just stop this interest of music dead in its tracks?

please don't ever think that again

>Is there anything that could be considered creative about this?
the section from 2:00 to 2:26

grab reaper (winrar free) and go to town. or pirate one

>>74574023
>most of my samples come from hip hop artists.

it's mostly that (the hats and snaps) + the periodic use of hats that make it sound mostly like that. that's mostly a trap thing

>>74574168
Reaper looks like Audacity on steroids. Is that what I'm looking for?

I'd like to thank you for helping me get over my lack of confidence in my work. However, I can't make a whole album / soundtrack where the entire thing is a transition from one melody to the next. It wouldn't be memorable.

Hey guys I don't often ask for feedback on here but I haven't really been able to get anything helpful elsewhere. My soundcard has been messing the left and right channels up so idk if this is the best mix volume-wise. What do you guys thing of the general form of the song? Any changes that you personally would make? What synths in particular need to be polished in order not to sound like babby's first keyboard?
https://clyp.it/ojpn04su

>>74575296
supposedly reaper is a fully competent daw. i don't know for sure; some of the praise might be because it's free but it looks fine to me. audacity isn't usable at all.

just keep working at it man, sounds trite to say but this shit just comes with time and practice.

>>74575377
>My soundcard has been messing the left and right channels up
just use one channel for the time being then.

the kick just sounds like a click. delayed synth is cool. the out of tune synth at 1:06 is too much man. yeah your drum levels are all fucked.

monitor through one channel/some headphones with a reference track you know well to get your levels right

>>74575456
Thank you, man.

>>74575456
ok so the kick is actually that bass swell that is a constant pulse throughout the track, I think I'm gonna keep it that way. I appreciate the advice about the headphones and mono track. I'm having trouble with that synth being a lower level but still maintaining its aural presence, because I kind of want it to blanket everything else (I named it electric blanket for that reason, and I really love the oscillation I get with the stereo separation). Any tips for achieving this effect? Maybe lower the levels of everything else, or would that be noticeable?

https://youtu.be/l9spbWxsyfQ?t=89
how would you go about making that sharp bassy stab at 1:29? Of course this is Ewun we're talking about, but It seems a bit more complex than your standard reese-bass-with-lfo common to dubstep/dnb/drumstep basses

>>74575646
>kick is actually that bass swell that is a constant pulse throughout the track

can't hear any swell at all? i'm listening on monitors too lol

the detuned synth? yeah it is a bit loud but i mean the patch itself is rather unpleasing/too detuned

to "blanket" in this track i'd bus/group everything and shelf out a lot of the highs, probably starting at 1 or 2 k, set up a reverb return, and *not* cut out any low mids on the synth, maybe even boost what would normally be consisdered "mud".

i think it's pretty taxing on the ears and would get tiring to listen to at a steady volume- something you might like is to use compression with a "ghost" sidechain

>>74575695
typical fm dubstep patch???

i get sounds like that pretty quickly in fm8, i'm not sure about specifics to match this though

>>74575951
I don't know what fm is and I want to be able to make them myself, not just use a patch

I use Live's default operator so that might be limiting me. How I don't know but it's a possibility

>>74576040
learn fm then lol

operator does fm ofc but personally i wouldn't use it for that stuff. youtube how to do dubstep stuff then m8. it's actually really fucking easy to get going with once you get the flow of what you're supposed to do.

>>74576138
if by FM you mean FM synthesis then yeah I know of it
I already make plenty of drumstep/dnb, I just want to know how to get that specific sound
I'll look into it because honestly I don't know what all the different types of synthesis entail, how they sound different, what you can do with them, etc. I just know some of their names.

>>74569027
I wasn't asking you.

>>74556156
Hihats in the first clyp are weird as fuck and i like it, nice vibe too but idk how someone could do vocals to this
>>74557958
Wtf is this
Practice more, I can tell you're new to production


>>74566197
Love that drip-133 kinda vibe, really nice ambience, cool drums


>>74569128
Ew, definitely not my thing
Like the other guy said, it feels like a bunch of pointless transition FX lmoa

>>74573251
I mean, I guess you could say it sounds cheesy but I really like the old school fighting/racing game vibe tbqh famalam

>>74575377
Something feels off, but i can't really pinpoint what

Here's a beat I made
How does the mix sound? (Specifically the drums)
Before you say it: yes, I know it's pretty generic... this was more of a practice in mixing than an actual beat I would send out to someone
The acapella is on it to give you an idea of how it would sound as a complete song
All feedback is appreciated

https://clyp.it/vywwk5br

>>74556156
>https://clyp.it/tswysmq2
turn the hats down or automate some stereo spread to them.
>https://clyp.it/ykvba35a
maybe turn the bass down so the track is more dynamic, the vocals are really cool though.
>https://clyp.it/dodqy0pe
I can barely hear the vocals in this one, not sure if that's intentional.
Overall you could probably gain some dynamics by having the basslines at lower volumes.
>>74557958
It's a slow mover but i kind of like it, the bass guitar sounds too rumbly though.
>>74566197
beautiful melody/ambient parts, but boring instrumental.
>>74566349
sounds like they're just using distorted kicks and synths.
>>74573251
sounds cheesy in a good way.
>>74573855
neat, there's plenty of interesting drum machines out there, you could always get into modular synths, those type of drum modules can be relatively cheap :^) just don't start spending your life on buying hundreds of modules.
>>74575377
the synths that comes in at the end sticks out too much, turn it down. Like the other guys said there practically isnt any percussion, just a click.

What do you guys think of this depressed hiphop kind of thing i've got going? It's in 9/8 time so it sounds kind of messed up, i think the only thing i need to improve on is the timing of the voicebox singing samples.
https://clyp.it/53vznjkt

>>74576658
The kick is slightly too loud, it sticks out more than anything else. You could fix this by subtracting some bass or using a compresser to keep the attack transient while reducing the tail volume.

>>74576658
>weird as fuck and i like it
>really nice ambience, cool drums
>I really like the old school fighting/racing game vibe tbqh famalam
>pointless comment
>HERE'S ME

if you're not going to say anything just drop your clyp bro, there's nothing wrong with that

>>74566349
no clue, HATE is prime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgoDU52DruQ

>>74576858
Thanks, I was trying to get the kick to hit hard though I guess maybe I overdid it

>>74576870
I was just commenting I guess, not really giving feedback
I like hearing everything people think of my shit, idk about you

>>74576658
yeah that kick is way too loud man

>>74576779
didn't find that beat appealing at all. drum samples are too lofi,

vocals are cool, piano wasn't particularly interesting. reverse reverb is something you might want to try

>>74576943
oh, whatever man idk

that post just looked like surface level comments people use in soundcloud threads to get people to listen to their shit lol

>>74557307
how is DSI a meme

ob-6 sounds sick and prophet 12 can do mental things

>>74576943
If you want it to hit harder, add harmonics and overtones, distortion rather than continually adding volume. This tricks the ear to thinking it's louder without actually adding peak amplitude.
>>74576944
Do you think i should redo the drums entirely or is it just the shit samples? And yeah the piano is just a sample cut up and rearranged so might need further improvement.

>>74577035
I distorted a lil already and I think it sounds ugly when you distort it more
What would you do to add overtones? I tried layering other kicks/percs but the difference is hardly noticeable

>>74577035
yeh, use higher quality samples and dirty them up yourself.

i don't like the drums at all, i'm not sure what you're going for but i'm assuming you still want people to groove to it? i'd go more for a dj shadow thing

idk about the piano if you don't have access to a vst then... maybe try pitching them around differently

>>74577091
You could try doing multiband distortion, this will creat over tones without destroying the entire kick and you could mix it wet/dry.
>>74577100
I'll try that. I have access to a piano vst, I'll have to figure out the notes used in the original sample and redo it, that should give me the flexibility to modify it even more.

stop posting richards you fuck

>>74573647
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>>74577398
you could add an 808???

>>74577448
i dont know!! i have no taste to eectronic misusc

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>>74556156
>No.745561

Your third track here is rad - like really good I way prefer it to the others. Is that your own vocal or a sample?
The kind of warm texture you're going for is really working.
Sidechain sounds good.

Listened again and:
I would change up the hat pattern.
Its a cool pattern, but give it some variation when the song builds, unless you're going for a looping lofi drum machine vibe.

Looking through some sketches from the past months, this was done on maybe the worst day of the year.

I think this song really annoys me when its not slowed down, but I'm tempted to put some coldwave-y vocals over it. Ignoring the major key synths.
Essentially; is this little building and descending shape a bit grating? Something about the softness of the analog synth mixed with its arp makes me really unsure of whether or not to take it further. Any ears appreciated.


https://clyp.it/ccbh4zjf

how to keep the same volume transients while using a saturation/distortion?
like these plugins that take the eq image of a sample and apply it to another sound to make it sound closer,,, is there something that does it with volume instead of eq. i want to get a dirty sound without losing the dynamics and punch or doing it in parallel

>>74577750
Don't know what you mean about the EQ image thing, but, if you want to keep the same volume transients of a dry audio file (for a sidechain or something)
Make a "ghost" version of the track that will still affect sidechains/compressors. If you're using logic and don't know how to do that i can help

>>74577658
I like the synth sounds themselves, but the melodies sound a lil too happy desu

>>74577658

>>74577843
>Make a "ghost" version of the track that will still affect sidechains/compressors
dont know what that is and im using Reaper

>>74577888
What sort of thing are you trying to both distort yet keep transients of- drums or an instrument?
By Ghost track its kindof like doing it in parallel, only you send the audio from a "pre" setting and turn the volume all the way down, so that all plugins still react to the original sound's transients, without it actually effecting the audio that goes into the mix. I'm sure Reaper can do it.

>>74577658
I like the progressive feel of the track but those synths towards the end of the clip feel like they belong in a bridge. And personally I would cut a bit of the high end off that bassline, cuts into the mids a little too much.

https://clyp.it/vyovzxit

This was my attempt at reworking Zhu's Faded and i kinda got carried away. Put a bunch of shit on top of a simple bassline and drum beat. Give me criticism. Don't hold back.

>>74578043
reverb

>>74578056
That Sawtooth or squarewavy jagged synth line, on top of that already quite gnarly bass, is competing a bit with a kind of grittyness.
Kick/shake/clap is pretty tight mate.
Arpanet high synths are top notch.

I'm into everything except the jaggedy synth melody. I'd shift it around from its starting and ending position, fuck with it so it suprises you. And I'd explore a few more notes with it.
And again, I'm not into that "buzzy" sound, you might be, but I think a similar melody would sound way better on a different synth.
post an update if you do.
> No.74566197
This is really great, don't know why you think you're losting it, overlistening? Where does it go next?

from a particularly sad minimal morning phase, got some lyrics over the top of it.
Is the Tremolated sample in the background annoying?
I tend to worry whether Trems where you can really hear the depth can be a bit "much"

https://clyp.it/gd4r5elt

>>74576870
>pointless comment
thank you dude, the "something feels off but idk what" seemed useless to me, but I didn't want to totally ignore it. I'm not going for comfy, and I can actually pinpoint some aspects of the synths that feel off on my own: the background synth it starts with, for one. Idk if I want to get rid of it though because Flying Lotus has stuff that is slightly off the beat and gives no fucks, so why should I give a fuck if my non-pop music has some wonky parts that changing might mess up some of the good details of (all of that is a sustained note so like a 1/64 knob twist could change it a LOT). Maybe I want to evoke unease of something not being right, anyways. Either way I wish he had elaborated or not even said anything. "It's good" or "it's bad" is the worst feedback of all tho, because it's pure opinion, at least he said it felt "off", which I don't really interpret to mean either

>>74578043
>>74578199
i want to distort the reverb without making it super loud , the plugins that will process it after the distortion dont matte

>>74578324
Sorry man, that was just the first thing that came to mind when I heard it so I typed it out lol I didn't really know how to elaborate but I still wanted to say something

https://clyp.it/2k22cyy4
im shit, pls r8

How do i make Vaporwave?

>>74578435
>https://clyp.it/2k22cyy4
Make the trap drums faster other than that 8/10

>>74578435
you're not shit at all man there's tonnes I love about this track.
Pitched disorienting samples all over the place are rad.
Vocalse getting filtered sound like they're breathing. Tight shit.
Love these sine bass's descending
using a super dry vocal like that is great as well.
What q's do you have about the track? I wouldnt change much it's great, the energy comes back into it brilliantly with the bass.

>>74578460
suicide

I wanna make experimental electronic music would fl studios be good for that?

>>74578495
Yep, I've made a lot with it

>>74578495
Yes. It's inexpensive, intuitive, and (despite looking like a toy) is a pro-grade daw used by a lot of big name producers who stuck with it because of how good it is for someone with little to no experience. Once its installed, you're literally a few youtube videos away from getting the basics down and producing your own music.

>>74578485
was not expecting good feedback, cool. main gripe was the mixing. ive been sitting at it for a couple hours, my ears arent sensitive enough right now to pinpoint if anythings being overpowered.

>>74578478
yea i was thinking of ways to add variation. will prob add sections with a spin on the hats and drums.

>>74578699
>>74578578
Which one should I get though the Signature Bundle?

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R8 my arps at the end brahs. I'm pretty psyched about them but now I've drank too much monster and I have no focus. Send your energy if you support pseudoclassical chipwankery.
https://clyp.it/32hcbgjf
>>74578495
Yes. Look up youtube tutorials to make the experience much easier.
>>74578460
Slowed down 80's music loops for the easy route. Original MIDI muzak for the pro route.
>>74578435
Pretty cool/10. The transition into the beat around 1:20 is very crisp.

Need to move from Abelton 9.3 to 9.7.

Downloaded a version from rutracker but it won't authorize. When I run the terminal app it says ready to be patched, then run authorize but it says 'cannot be authorised'. Could anyone help me out or give me a key generator?

Sorry for this, i've been trying all other avenues.

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>>74556071
anyone here make jump up?

i unironically love this shit

>>74579120
what the fuck this goes hard, im so confused. dickhard/10
arp is solid. ends a bit abruptly but that may have been the vibe youre going for

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>tfw i've made over 200 songs/mini-songs and have never officially uploaded them anywhere because i never think they're good enough

anyone else know this feel?

>>74579411
upload the fuck out of them, even if you don't share it with anybody. feels good to have a public place to keep track of your work so you dont feel like your time is wasted

>>74579440
what's the point of uploading them if nobody listens to them? wouldn't it do just as good as a folder on my computer?

>>74579411
same except closer to 1000 most likely

i don't upload anything unless i know it holds up to music out there i would actually listen to. no need to add to the ocean of piss out there

>>74579440
don't encourage people to upload music with (presumably) no worth please -___-

>>74579461
to each his own. i like having mine up just for the sake of it. did a thing where i'd upload one track every day for a couple months. kept me on my game seeing progress that i could view from anywhere instead of just sitting in my hard drive to die.

if you're expecting to upload anything and have people listen to it immediately then that'll be tough anyway so no point even deciding which tracks to upload since theyll get overlooked

>>74579510
>>74579440
link your page friend, give some inspiration

>>74579411
>>74579470
When you say 200 or 1000, to me that number is unfathomable. What is the complexity of your songs? I have only about 10 in my head but all of them easily surpass 3 minutes, to put it lightly.

>>74579376
Thank you! It ends abruptly because I was still writing the melody that's going to go over the arp. The part where the staccato bass comes in will probably repeat once, then I don't know what.
Here's another one that's even more confusing. I haven't shown this to anyone either. I'm not asking for feedback, just trying to provide some exchange. Actually, since that one's so overtly chaotic, I'll post a more musical one you're more likely to like.
https://clyp.it/000fzlrb
https://clyp.it/mtw3lzys
>>74579411
Yes.

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>>74579575
i know a traditional "song" length is around 3 minutes+

i put mini-song as well because some can last for 1:30m all the way to 6m+, most are in the 2m-3m range because i hate repetition so instead of repeating a chorus or something i'd rather either make up a whole new part or end the song somehow

i hate predictability

>>74561343

>no fun is allowed

who else is on their 3rd beer

fuck why am i such a degenerate piece of shit

so fucking angsty

>>74579701
I'm on my second can of monster.

>>74566248
mono the sub if you haven't already

>>74579575
>(1000)

i just checked my folder of "completed" songs (stuff i decided was worth exporting because i like the idea, 1-4 minutes, actually has distinct parts) and it's closer to 200

the 1000 number might be a slight exaggeration- i know there are at least another 100-150 old and shitty (but still "complete") songs on my old laptop. there are another 30-40ish in progress songs i'm working on currently, and i can only guess all of this is at least doubled with stuff i just gave up on and never saved kept. so that's at least like 700

this is all over 4 years though. i take music seriously, it doesn't take long to get numbers like that when you work at it and have no life desu.

>>74579701
i was an alky and now i live with my parents so 0 8(

>>74579701
i quit and only smoke weed now

>>74579771
What's the average complexity?
What genre?

Can you upload something that represents the "typical" song?

>>74579771
Better to have ten finished songs you're proud of

What is a good simple synth vst like Ableton's operator? ( I'm not using ableton anymore)

>>74579657
>>74579771
That's still unfathomable to me. I have been brewing these same 10 ideas for songs in my head since I was 14 or 15. Do you ever redo songs to make them better?

>>74580008
3xosc

>>74580008
I know many people won't agree with this but Arturia V and Propellerhead Thor.

guys what do i do

i downloaded serum off splice and this is happening

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>>74579860
i hate weed, never had a good experience

>>74579807
gonna not drink till saturday after i finish this beer desu

>>74579720
i love coffee, took preworkout before lifting 5hrs ago, still wired at 1am. thankfull dont work till 430 tomorrow so theoretically i can produce till the morning.

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>>74580016
>I have been brewing these same 10 ideas for songs in my head since I was 14 or 15

woah man, i can't do that. i redo songs but not often, once they're done i don't like to go back and touch them. it's been 200 songs over 4-5 years, so not that crazy at all.

a lot aren't good enough for proper release as they may not go anywhere or just sound too generic (been there, done that 100x before sounding)

>>74580016
>Do you ever redo songs to make them better
i've gotten into a habit of rewriting from scratch but using the same "palette" (patches drums everything) , or sometimes, yes, just using the same chords and feeling

there are still like 10 songs that i wrote when i was 15-17 that i've kept in my head like that too :p

>>74579955
oh for sure dude, out of all this there's less than 50 i really love and mean a lot to me

>>74579908
>complexity
not very honestly.

it's kind of hard to say because i can crank out two or three solid hip hop songs now but an idm track might take a few days to a month to actually take form

i'll upload some short clyps later of an "average" if you still want to hear. none of it is that good. it's just like keeping a sketchbook or a journal to me. some good stuff, but mostly just okay.

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>tfw you produce music and have invested thousands in professional audio equipment but you'll never be as good as an 18 year old girl with a MacBook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mngtcfcaVrI

I am >>74578056

Heres a few renders I whipped up a few minutes ago. Some might see them as vacuum sealed pop tracks and admittedly so they kind of are but I'm open to all feedback since im trying to take my production to the next level

https://clyp.it/34shugf3 - Electro house track thats been in limbo. WIP

https://clyp.it/0igr3s2y - piece of a dubstep remix I never fninshed

https://clyp.it/ef0hkpot - my first generic trap beat i tried to make. will never be finished since it was made as kind of a joke

>>74580382
people still make music like this? i thought it was a fad...

like emo music or nu-metal

>>74580347
the real feel(tm) on this situation is
>tfw you will never be a cute girl so you can make mediocre middle school level music and people will like it

>>74580347
Ewwww what happened to her she used to be cute

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>>74580437
in high school i was dating this girl with an excellent singing voice, and always tried to make songs with her and she was always too embarrassed to

years later i come across one of her music pages and she has thousands of followers now and makes music with her boyfriend

>mfw

>>74580263
>>74579908
the first two are representative of the typical song i might make during a day or two now that i thought might go somewhere but never did, the last is one left over from a few years ago (those took me longer to make since i was still getting a hang of it ofc)

electronic, idm, and "industrial" rock
https://clyp.it/zrc3ska2
https://clyp.it/wxmcda3l
https://clyp.it/2dtuigdm

>>74580487
haha

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>>74580347
It's an abstract kind of feel, a-at least we have the underground, r-right anon?

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https://clyp.it/rdugzihm
would this sound cool as a beat
what do you guys think of the melodies

>>74581751
comfiest gif of all time

I'm 18 years old, I live in Melbourne and I've been producing for 4 years. I think I have a good chance at becoming a professional mixing or mastering engineer. Do you have any advice? Any skills that I need? Anything I need to know?

>>74583060
What's your plan?

>>74584129
I'm getting a certificate IV in Sound Production this year (was going to just be a gap year thing) and next year I'll probably start a full degree. Then I'll look for studios who need engineers and find clients through the internet

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I want to get started in remixing music and creating mashups I am a piano player and my music skills don't go beyond interpreting sheet music or beat matching deck 1 to deck 2 and transitioning from one to another when I DJ.

I've watched a few YouTube videos and I haven't learned a thing.
What are some good resources to kick-start my hobby?

>>74584367
You need to know the principles of music production to be able to make something of good quality.
So learn how to make a song from scratch, and after you've practiced enough, making a mashup will be the easiest thing in the world.

>>74579753
my man!

>>74584696
OK, I'm willing to read up on that stuff, where's a good starting point?

>>74584749
http://www58.zippyshare.com/v/Eaw7HMGX/file.html

Read "Dance music manual 3rd edition" (teaches you the basics of the main aspects of production), then start practicing with a DAW (I suggest getting Ableton and watching Sadowick's course on YT, or alternatively FL Studio and SeamlessR's videos).
Also download the resources in the OP (and its pastebin link) and read them as you start needing them (you will know when after gaining the basic knowledge)

If you want to get better at making music, read "Music theory for computer musicians", then "Composition for the computer musician", then "Harmony for the computer musician".

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If you're not popular IRL does that mean it comes across in your music and that won't be popular either?

>>74580382
>https://clyp.it/34shugf3
generic, really repetitive, would still be pretty bad if it was released in 2009 instead of now.

>https://clyp.it/ef0hkpot
distort and then compress the 808, add swing to the drums. hi hats are alright

>>74581937
dissonant at times, some swing would be good, counter melodies don't really work desu. synths are kinda cheesy, but it's not that bad desu. Main melody at the start needs variation.
>>74580916
>https://clyp.it/zrc3ska2
not really going anywhere, the chord playing pluck thing doesn't fit.

>>74579120
Drums need to be a lot louder. it's just a random cluster fuck basically but I know it's what you were going for.
>feedback plz
https://clyp.it/mni4uvjb

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>>74572835
Just get one of these laptops and they wont know you're on one.

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So I have been lusting after an Akai MPC500 for years and I finally got one.

I'm learning everything at a solid pace, but one thing I have never been able to do with samples/samplers is make everything sound cohesive instead of a horrible cacophony of the damned.

Like, I was trying to sample "Stop the World and Let Me Off" by Waylon Jennings and it all just sounds like Satan's Choir.

Does anyone have any good reading or videos I can watch/read to learn more about making samples relate to each other?

Thanks, Anons.

>>74586735
Mostly just keep mashing things you think might sound good together repeatedly every day or so for a few years until you get an ear for what sounds good. Practice like anything is the key.

Take a look at the rythem roulette series on YouTube those guys have been mastering sampling for years and as you will see can pick out 3 random records and hear within minutes what will go together for their particular workflow and style.

please comment on my sick beats and guess how much time I put into this
https://clyp.it/hzras102

>>74587312
that synth at :16 and throughout rest is really grating to the ears and sounds amateur

recommend replacing it with something else

>>74556071
bump

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https://discord.gg/pPytg8

gonna start biting reggaeton beats

this shit is so fucking catchy

>>74587281

Thank you, Anon. I will look into that series now and see what I can figure out.

does this sound like its playing through a small treby radio
https://clyp.it/qjqpxad3

>>74591010
>this song again

no it sounds fine dude

>>74591010
are the drums live or is it samples?
I'd give more prominence to the drums in the mix, the guitar sounds like it's taking too much space

>>74591729
ok thank you, wont post it again lol

>>74591884
samples (ezd)
youre probably right but ill leave it that way cause already uploaded it to soundcloud

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https://clyp.it/gfm5wt5u

what do you guys think of this, the beat is a recent addition

>>74585628
>>74593107

what parts are dissonant? any suggestions on making the synths less 'cheesy'?
>https://clyp.it/gfm5wt5u
sounds cool but that main synth part sounds off, i would either change it to something else or get rid of it it kinda brings the track down imo

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dude compression lmao

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i feel like this song is a little too short
https://clyp.it/o4ncopkh

Can I get the redpill on valhalla reverb? Is it a meme or is it really one of the best VSTs? It seems to show up in every thread related to a VST version of Eventide Space/Strymon Big Sky.

>enter song for feedback
>tfw at least half of all feedback are passive aggressive faggots
>hey man I appreciate your use of chords here
>yeah seems like your continuing a theme here
>and the rest are morons
>sevenths are too dissonant for me
>woah where is the beat

potentially the worst peer group you can imagine. So /prod/ the fuck do I git gud?

>>74556515
stinking his diapy

I got a synth but I need a way to connect it to my computer. I have a Focusrite audio interface but there's no MIDI input. Do I need to get a MIDI interface, or can I just get a MIDI to USB? Will Ableton read the notes that way?
Or, alternatively, what's the cheapest way to get the synth recording the actual MIDI notes into my computer?

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Are these drums too lumbering?

Moody/coldwavey/synth and sing

https://clyp.it/sqsju1od

What's the difference between a multiband compressor and a regular one?

>>74597426
Multiband compressor compresses certain frequencies only. Like if you wanna tame the lows without affecting the whole spectrum use a multi band comp.

What would you buy with $500? I'm thinking of spending it on a nice piece of hardware or just getting a nicer midi controller and spend the rest on records

>>74595921

They sound fine to me...Nice vocals. Is that you singing?


>>74593966
Very futuristic sounding. Nice. The length seems oaky to me. I don't see an issue with it.


Mine...
>https://clyp.it/mwoctt2l

>>74597747
good to hear they sound fine, think I'm paranoid my drums feel like they tend to drag.
Yeah that's me singing, thanks glad you think they sound alright, its a first sketch from the other night so will redo them a bit.

Good stuff - Hats to claps are pretty rad for energy. two things - I'm not that hot on the stabby saw wave synth. notes are all good - but you've got that really interesting high bendy sinewave going off on its own and I think it deserves some space away from the dominating loud and jagged other synth.
I do really like it when it mirrors what the big lead is doing though.

Also listening to the outro- dont know if this structure is just a clip but I'm begging to hear some of those nice synth keys stripped back to just them for a while, before bringing back percussion and the synths.
Also interesting clyp title, lol. Don't know if I'm picturing a post apocalyptic Leningrad scene in my head.

>>74597631
well what do you already have

>Choosing a BPM is like picking the first note of a song, most the time it's random. We just pick any BPM and go with it. But, what if I told you there was a secret behind one of the most popular BPMs in dance music, 108 BPM? You want to know? Well, 432 divided by 4 is 108 BPM. You may be wondering why 432 is so special, well, in cymatic experiments, it's found that sound creates pure shape at this tuning frequency. (geek talk=100%) Let's make it simple, music tends to create defined shape using this tuning instead of the typical 440Hz Tuning. 108BPM is special and puts listeners deeper into the rhythm we create. Use 108BPM today. Good luck, Game, BusyWorksBeats.com

this sounds pretty cool. is there any merit to this or is my dude making shit up?

>>74593531
it sound dissonant because most of your melodies are just ascending and descending. It sounds a lot like plantasia, but without the great composition.

>>74598212
Who is making 108bpm dance tunes?

Having used ableton for years and mouse and keyboard I got a maschine studio and now I am free. Its not all great but glory comes to thee who can alter any parameters via knobs. You also feel really cool standing above it. I would recommend getting a maschine studio (matched with keyboard synth), its tough to learn but once you do nirvana awaits.

>>74595775
Yeah get the midi to usb cable

>>74595345
Yes its good. Its still not as great as real reverb but it is good enough.

>>74598212
This is complete bullshit

432 is a completely different form of music from 440. Use the exact math of it, but "old" (mom western) notes and "scales" were made with different fractions in relation to each other or some shit, where as our modern scales have a constant distance between notes, so simply tuning your A down 4 hz and playing as you would normally is not the same thing.

>>74598885
>real reverb

>>74598946
>use
>idr*

>>74598946
*non western*

Fuck phones

>>74598946
432 Hz is still equal temperament

it's fucking retarded and everything but it's still equal temperament

>>74598885
artificial reverb is much better for mixing, honestly

>>74599760
>equal temperament
is it though?

there seems to be a lot of confusion about this

an example of the difference i referred to from wikipedia:
>In equal temperament, pairs of enharmonic notes such as A and G are thought of as being exactly the same note—however, as the above table indicates, in Pythagorean tuning they have different ratios with respect to D, which means they are at a different frequency. This discrepancy, of about 23.46 cents, or nearly one quarter of a semitone, is known as a Pythagorean comma.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_tuning

the discrepancy of notes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagorean_comma

>>74599934
Yes, using A = 432 Hz as a tuning standard rather than 440 Hz doesn't change the temperament.

You can tune 12 equal to A 432 or A 440 or Pythagorean to A 432 or A 440 or combine any temperament with any reference pitch; these are totally unrelated concepts.

>>74600023
okay i'm aware of that, i thought you were correcting what i talked about above

i was explaining where the 432hz myth comes from and why tuning that way doesn't change anything like you just said

>>74600061
yeah the whole thing is thoroughly confused and retarded

exploring temperament and microtonality is fine and very interesting, but reference pitch isn't really important, and adding confused bullshit numerology and getting terms mixed up isn't helpful to anyone

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https://clyp.it/pnaibslw

trap with a verse. dare you to call it generic

my intellectual property to all the fiends out there.

pic related is proof of reptillians controlling ur news media, knowing this helps me focus on mewsic

>>74600160
>dare you to call it generic
lol?

i hear one swelling synth burried in there that might make somebody think it's slightly different

get a mic and learn to mix, your rapping doesn't sound terrible

also stop memeing it makes you look like an tryhard

>>74598212
I just realized this isn't accounting for seconds vs. minutes. 432 Hz is 4 * 60 * 108 BPM.

So it's even more retarded than I thought.

>>74600276
>swelling synth

GOOD POINT. AS A TREND WATCHER I BELIEVE AS THE COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS IS STUCK IN THE PAST BY MEDIA MIND CONTROL., rEVERSE WAVES ARE BECOMIGN MOOR PREVELANT AND AFFECTIVE.

>>74600632
it's not funny please stop :/

>>74600692
https://clyp.it/atzpilcn

>>74584367
I'm still under the impression all the mashup artists that trend like TripleQ don't know the principles of music production or at least don't apply then when mixing.

>>74600160
is this bait?

>>74600953
Only cool part was 9 seconds in please learn more refined sound design and not lazy feedback shit :p

I think I'm going to start off recording in a lo fi way, what do you guys think?

>>74601296
I think lo fi is for memers, the lazy, and people who don't know how or can't afford to record well

It's highly dependent on the music though, of course. Gbv, nmh etc wouldn't be the same hifi lol.

>>74598603
Moombahton is often at that tempo.

>>74601017
A lot of artists of all kinds make great art without knowing the basics, but they're rare exceptions.
Most people would need to know some basics to make stuff that's not complete garbage, and if some random guy on the Internet wants to start making art, chances are that he's not one of those rare people, and that he'd benefit a lot from some knowledge.
Especially if he has to ask on an Internet forum.

>>74585121
Understandable, I just don't want to burry myself too deepening books to later realise I've read 30 books and never made any noise

>>74602000
Just read the first one then, and practice everything you learn along the way.

It's important to have balance.
If you spend all your time learning and never doing, you won't be able to apply your knowledge effectively because you won't be "trained" to do it (which you become through practice).
But at the same time if you just do stuff and never study, you'll end up fucking around aimlessly for years and your music will be even worse, because you'd literally not know what you're doing.

You can reinvent the wheel and discover stuff on your own if you want, but having someone teach them to you right away (in person or through books, videos, etc) is a FAR better way to improve your skills.
Especially in a technical subject like music production, which is based on knowing a lot of techniques.

Any tips for doing a hangable auto bulb style drum beat in renoise?

Just face it, you'll never be famous.

You aren't special, no matter what your mommy tells you when you finish showing her ur shitty track and she has to lie to stop you from killing yourself.

You will never be a rockstar, you will never pioneer into new genres, you will never get the cars, the money, the women, or the attention.

You will never have young girls getting wet when they are in your mere presence.

But it's not like you had a chance to begin with? Martin Garrix went to an elite school of musicianship and has been producing for over 10 years, and he's only 20. At 18 he was touring the world, fucking bitches and getting money for producing child's play, whilst you fail to produce a musically coherent 4 bar loop.


There are 1000's of producers like this, child prodigies just itching for a chance to show off their amazing work, and you honestly think you stood a chance? No, you don't even have the intellect required to be a producer, so even if you "grind"(cringe) you will get no where and will never finish anything.

By all means, keep feeding money to Native instruments and cymatics, but keep in mind your going to have to work 9-5 for the rest of your life, and probably put in a few extra hours a week to pay back your debts.

>inb4 Martin Garrix is bad.
No, as he gets more pussy than you and i'd prefer to listen to his shit over anything you have the courage to upload and call "music")

>inb4 "I just do it 4 fun xD"
You don't, stop lying to yourself. You secretly want to prove everyone wrong, but think people can't see through your facade.

>>74602638
>(You)

Faggot

>>74602638
>But it's not like you had a chance to begin with? Martin Garrix went to an elite school of musicianship and has been producing for over 10 years, and he's only 20. At 18 he was touring the world, fucking bitches and getting money for producing child's play, whilst you fail to produce a musically coherent 4 bar loop.
You forgot to mention that his uncle runs Spinning Records (or one of their departments I don't remember).

>>74602873
he isn't even signed to spinnin' anymore, stay mad, talentless hack.

btw, this guy is only 14. how does this make you feel?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhXRuKagKmc

>>74603130
>he isn't even signed to spinnin' anymore
That's because he got butthurt at their deal and brought them to court to get out of it.
There is no doubt that without the initial Spinnin exposure his song Animals wouldn't have gotten that big.

>stay mad, talentless hack.
I'm not mad at all.
I know he's good (and certainly better than me). Just that being good is never enough to become successful.

>>74603280
part of being good is making music that is listenable.

>>74603324
?

Please elaborate.

Perfect thread

Can someone pretty please go seed/peer CM Special 37 Ableton Live?
Shit is going so slow

>>74603342
Give magnet

>>74603130
It sounds like it was made by a 14 year old, lmao. Get some taste and listen to Gesualdo.

>>74603346

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6292550D90B4FF8E2362D956CFECE786A5EE1384

>>74603352
stop hating, hater.better than anything you'll ever produce.

https://clyp.it/wq0laj3n


can I get some feedback

>>74603389
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Add it and make it add its trackers to your download.

>>74603689
the analog sounding tom drum thing is too high up on the frequency spectrum, it kind of induces listener fatigue - for me at least

>>74578225
no it sounds fine, I'd make the reverb tail on the melody synth longer though

this would fit nicely into some dystopian future video game if you leave it without lyrics

>>74603689
from the intro I was hoping this was gonna be galo sengen 2.0

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>In 2015, Rezazadeh started producing songs on her laptop in her home in Niagara Falls, Ontario,[10] and uploaded them to SoundCloud. She signed to Skrillex's record label, OWSLA and released Insurrection on 20 July 2015. Later that year, she signed to deadmau5's record label, mau5trap and her track "Serenity" was featured on the 2015 compilation album We Are Friends, Vol. 4

During the SAME YEAR SHE STARTED PRODUCING.

>rrrrreeeeEE.....

>>74605089
Yeah, I've been hearing about her since her first releases.
It's pretty weird.
There must be something missing here.
Her music is pretty simple (especially her first releases), but there's no way she reached that level of quality and polish on her own in one year.
She either was mentored by someone (and even then it'd be fucking impressive), or she's lying about something.
I think she started before that and/or had prior musical experience.
I guess if you've already been making non-electronic music for years, you only need to learn the technical side to translate your music into electronic (instead of learning everything from the ground up).

Maybe it's just a misunderstanding and she meant that she started making music for the REZZ project in 2015 but made music before that under another name.

How can I know when is my mix good enough for mastering stage?

>>74605265
When it sounds like it's finished. You shouldn't be doing much in mastering anyways.

>>74598805
I'm thinking about getting a mk2. I feel like it's definitely this eras MPC and it's getting close to being iconic as the MPC

>>74605374
I don't know what am I doing wrong then, but without M A X I MU S on my M channel, my mix lacks punch, high end and overall "professional" sound. I even started plugging in M A X I M US during the middle of my mix to hear how it will sound in the end, which is probably bad.

Look at this, I know this guy probably doesn't always know what he is talking about, but check out 6:40 where he compares non-MA ST E RED and then MA ST ER ED track. It's a huge difference. Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbQoL7UhDtE

>>74605492
P.S. - had to fuck up some words because for some reason 4chan thinks they are spam.

>>74605504
>>74605492
And this is basically what I experience as well, my tracks sound similar to his "before - m a s t e r" track and I don't know what to do.

>>74605265
A/B it with a very good-sounding professional song (of similar type).
If it doesn't sound as clear/punchy/bright/whatever, try to work on improving things a bit more until you get as close as you can, and then print to a file for mastering.

I'm currently mixing some strings and a cello, I'm always having really hard time with them. I guess I never get a response when I ask a question about mixing classical instruments because not many people here do it, but I'd appreciate some help here.

https://clyp.it/gwn5w0l2

Eh, I'll post this one too, didn't get any feedback last time. Also orchestral, so the same problem applies.

https://clyp.it/bsxenlwv

https://clyp.it/jwbtu4bg

was going for a water-temply theme but i feel the track itself comes across as kinda boring/cluttered, any suggestions on making it better im very new to this

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I am going to make generic "dark" techno! Wish me luck

>>74607199
this is surprisingly not easy to do

>>74605927
>https://clyp.it/gwn5w0l2
you'll have to automate the reverb tails of the strings between the shorter notes so they don't clutter up your mix too much
I'd also boost the low end of the cello to give it more body, it sounds a little weak (unless that's what you're going for)

>https://clyp.it/bsxenlwv
the orchestration is fine for the most part on a first listen but overall the piece lacks dynamics in the percussion, work with panning to sort of throw the drums around a bit so they don't sound so static and lifeless

I tried my hand at some sorta oldschool but not really hip hop type song but I really don't know where I'm going with this...

https://clyp.it/vc4e2ewq#

>>74556071
hey prod. how's my mix-mix? .... It's too compressed, isnt it?

https://clyp.it/mwqkbs2g

>>74605157
or the EDM scene really only cares about image, and signing a halfway competent female would probably translate into free marketing/ more sales.

>>74598805
>>74605414
In the late 90's I had a small hardware setup based around an emu sampler. I ended slowly selling everything other than the sampler and as computers became more and more usable for audio applications I started producing completely ITB but sitting in front of a computer and having to use a mouse everytime I wanted to make music drove me mad so I started building up some hardware again.
Last year I went into a local music shop to buy a drum machine and they had a Maschine Studio set up in the shop. I played around on it for a couple of hours in step mode with some of the factory drum samples and ended up buying one purely on the fact that it would make a great drum machine.
I can't rate it enough since getting it I haven't touched my DAW once, I really like the software and the way you can use the studio version with the sequencer and piano roll shown on one of the lcd displays so you don't need to look at the computer screen at all. Without a doubt the best value bit of kit in my studio.

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I recorded the main out on a drum machine, but the snare sounds too boxy. How to fix without hurting other drum sounds?

https://clyp.it/vojjjwqh

>>74608344
Yeah, but it still doesn't explain how the music of virtually everyone who start producing won't be as good as hers after just one year. It just borders on the unbelievable.

I remember reading something similar about Dillon Francis too.
IIRC he produced for a bit, then decided to drop everything and focus 100% on production for a year and if it didn't work out he'd go back to college, and in a year (where he also got an internship at some studio) he became successful.
I don't know how good he was when he started, but at the time of his first releases he was way better than what you'd expect from that little amount of practice/experience.

If I ever make it big I'm gonna lie and tell them I'd just started the year before, just to fuck with them kek.
And of course, to boost my image.

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>>74608461
I hear you. I do think it's mostly an image thing. Either that or Chad producers are real. I hope that is not the case.

>>74608571
>I do think it's mostly an image thing
I agree on the fact that image is certainly a major factor in basically any popular act.
I just think it's not (always) enough to make someone popular on its own.
If you look into most popular producers with a good image, you'll see that thay're actually pretty good at what they do (or the people doing the work for them are).
I can't really think of a popular act that's based 100% on image, and has shitty music.
Whether they make some "indie/underground" genre or cheesy pop type of music, its quality is always more or less proportional to its popularity.
With the millions of producers who make good enough music it's not hard to pick the most marketable ones and pushe them to fame (and maybe help them improving too).

>Either that or Chad producers are real.
What do you mean?
What's a Chad producer?

>>74608289
Yeah the bass is cutting out the highs pretty bad.

>>74608695
I don't mean to imply that anyone can get famous without putting in effort. I guess, as it always has been, popularity in the music scene is partly just some kind of magic.

There is a meme pic floating around of "virgin music producer vs chad music producers". I don't have it saved but maybe someone else does.

>>74608705
As in, the kick drum is causing the high percs to duck too much? Or is there something wrong with the sub as well?

>>74608754
I'm not sure about the definition of "Chad" here.
Is he someone who is good at everything, is handsome, successful, and gets everything in life?
Or is he someone who's dumb and incompetent but is attractive and/or rich so he gets everything in life anyway?

Either way, from what I read the EDM scene is full of both types (but the most successful are the first obviously), but which popular genre isn't?
In EDM at least you have a lot of ugly and uncool people too, that get popular based on merit alone (but still have some sort of "image" most of the time), which is very rare in basically all the other popular genres, where the acts have to be attractive or cool or both (exceptions are very rare).

>>74608754
>There is a meme pic floating around of "virgin music producer vs chad music producers"
Is it one of those where the virgin is wearing all grey and the chad is in a red tanktop and a bright blonde moicano?

>>74608754
>>74608695
For pop, edm "disposable" music etc, once an artists reaches a certain threshold of quality, it becomes solely an issue of image for them to start blowing up. There are fuck loads of producers making decent quality music on par with well known acts, it's just that they don't have the backing or an "in" to the scene

>>74605089
That is what audio engineers are for.
You just need a decent demo for them to work from.

babies first daw project? they will convert to protools
mix is shit? they will fix it
boring in certain spots? they add schnopation
climatic build isn't very climatic? they will improve it
drums sound thin and flat? they will make them sound like thunder
piano sounds like a 5 year old played it? they will reprogram it

>>74608879
I think so

>>74608780
To me it seems like the bassline is cutting through the top end. I'd mess around with the compression and leveler.

>>74608897
Nigga, how would you even get your projects to some audio engineer if every aspect of your work was shit like you described?

>>74608969
hmm, alright thanks! I'll try that.

>>74608981
Not him, but I think he means that if you're complete shit but have a marketable image, they can turn your music around so you end up being marketable AND have good music.

>>74609009
I will mention right before I exported, I turned on my DAW's "default mastering suite" on the master section. Probably a bad idea.

>this guy became a professional movie trailer composer after a year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e36Av9nkScQ

>>74605089
>that girl became a signed edm producer after a year

WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE? I have so many years of music experience as an instrumentalist, know a decent amount of theory, yet I'm fucking unable to learn how to properly produce and mix after 3 years of doing it, and I almost never finish anything because of combination of the fact I just mentioned and me never being satisfied with the direction I'm going in with my music, so I just drop every WIP project instead.

Hell, I have so much time at the moment (24/7), and I'll probably have a lot of free time for the next 2 years and if I don't manage to make this work, I think it's better to just off myself.

>>74608897
cause the people scouting for the "next big money grab" aren't looking for those skills. They already have the teams in place to make the music sound good, they just need a decent starting point... a concept... an image.

>>74566197
Love it

>2017
>talking about skrillex and edm
thank god that shit is dead in my country

>>74608981
>>74609076

>>74609017
That's fine, yeah, but we're talking about her getting recognized by a major label after a year of producing. How the hell did she get on that level so quickly? She definitely wouldn't get anybody's attention if her production was shitty and unfinished.

Btw, I just got to say that her composition is pure trash, and her melodies are garbage IMO, at least from those songs I heard, so you could guess she doesn't have a formal music education, but her sound design and production are pretty good.

>>74609119
Who knows...
Maybe someone thought it was cool that a young girl could produce and it masked her shortcomings (like this >>74580347 girl).
Maybe she has connections.
Maybe some big name thought she was cute and tried to bed her by giving her opportunities.
There are a million hypothesies.

Or maybe it's all true and she really got that good withing a year from starting, who knows.

>>74608897
>he doesn't know what an audio engineer is

>>74609295
t. rockist

>tfw /prod/ucing and trying to get some success made me into a sad and bitter person
I just need somebody to hug me with all their might and repeatedly chant "shh bby, is ok", while I slowly fade away into the darkness, forgetting about all my hopes and dreams. They don't matter anymore. Nothing will matter in the end, anyway.

>>74609295
He was wrong in saying engineer or Pro Tools, but he's right in general.
If a label wants to improve some attractive musician's shitty music they can.
They will employ producers, session musicians, AND mixing and mastering engineers, but they will do it pretty easily.

Even if the music is not bad, they often take some creative liberties and change things themselves if they feel the song needs it.

I remember an interview with Irko (a mixing engineer) who said he'd put drum fills or change parts of a song if he thought it would improve it.

>>74573251
Follow up question.
How do I make it sound less cheesy?

>>74609119
I think it is just smart networking with a bit of luck

My music is pretty shit and unfinished, but i dropped a bootleg remix of a song the same day a major artist released it. It got 10k plays over night and I had a couple labels reaching out to me a week later, but i didn't sign anything because fuck that bs

>>74609364
>>74609371
i swear there's like one guy who will come to shitpost about "making it" and to shit on peoples music and ends up derailing this thread

What you guys are talking about is happening in a completely different sphere of the music world from where 99% of musicians inhabit.

I can understand being envious of success and being well known but if your goal is to only get good enough to put yourself in a position to become a product and give up creative reigns to a team of people so you can take a backseat, i don't know what to tell you. If you don't want that, then there's no point in sulking around because a handful of producers got lucky and will end up forgotten as soon as a new trend in music starts.

Is there any way for me to automate the volume of strings without a knob (because I don't have a synthesizer with a volume knob). Maybe with that FL app for smartphones, and then I can just slide with my finger?

>>74609579
>What you guys are talking about is happening in a completely different sphere of the music world from where 99% of musicians inhabit.
What do you mean?

>>74609579
Oh? Did I really say that I want to sell my soul to some company and become a product with no creative powers?

No, but I do want to get some recognition. Fuck whoever says that you should be writing music for yourself. Music is a communication, it was always about the connection between the musician and his listeners. I get most of my joy when others hear and like my work. Getting some fame is the only way for me to get my thoughts out there. Currently my base literally consists of couple of shitposters on /prod/, and you don't even care. It fucking hurts, man, why can't you understand it?

>>74609607
https://www.image-line.com/support/flstudio_mobile_online_manual/index.html?id=flstudio&page=html/plugins/FL%20Studio%20Mobile_Editors.htm

>>74609618
as in the vast majority of who people on this board listen to, both people with small followings, and "big" musicians, all of who(m?) are completely happy with their music and career, aren't a "product" of a team in any sense. They write their music, and though they may probably delegate artwork, mixing/mastering, and so on to other people, or have other collaborators, it's still their music.

I don't mean to imply in any way that radio tier artists and djs etc aren't talented and that the music they pose as an image for isn't worth listening to of course, i'm just clarifying that this isn't the situation for 99% of musicians.

>>74609722
I wasn't meaning to attack you in particular, anon.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to make other feel good with music man, and naturally being recognized is part of that. If you can only be happy with eyes on you, or you end up sacrificing music you actually like making for the sake of the spotlight, then you might need to reexamine what's driving you.

Got anything to listen to?

Is there a way to make ableton compensate for latency in a recording?

When i record audio from my audio interface, the recorded tracks have a few milliseconds of dead audio at the beginning. Its the same every time, and i've been having to edit this out manually so everything is on grid with the software tracks. Is there a setting somewhere that will do this automatically?

>>74609986
>as in the vast majority of who people on this board listen to, both people with small followings, and "big" musicians, all of who(m?) are completely happy with their music and career, aren't a "product" of a team in any sense. They write their music, and though they may probably delegate artwork, mixing/mastering, and so on to other people, or have other collaborators, it's still their music.
Ah got you.
I agree, but it depends on the genre.
If you're talking about a non-mainstream genre like "IDM" where people don't care about image, and the artists are often easily recognizable just by the techniques used in their work, then yes.
If we're talking about those mainstream "festival" genres like "progressive" house, bigroom, trance, etc, then there are plenty of famous guys who are notorious for using ghost producers.
Often it's just them teaming up with some guy who makes music for them to play at their (now high-paying) gigs, but some times it's the label itself who sets these things up.
Usually when someone is a popular DJ in one of those genres but doesn't produce, and all of a sudden he releases a top-quality track that gets played everywhere, it's likely a ghost producer.
Or famous acts that you see releasing a song every month while playing a set every day in a different country, they probably use a ghost producer.
"Mainstream EDM" is actually plagued by this stuff.
Maarten Vorwerk, KSHMR, Nicky Romero, and even Martin Garrix notoriously ghost produced for other famous people.

Tons of famous "producers" are known for using ghost producers. Tiesto and Armin Van Buuren are the most notorious examples.

Remember when David Guetta's music was actually all Joachim Garraud?
Or how all of Kavinsky's music used to be made by SebastiAn (although I think Kavinsky had some creative input here and didn't just slap his name on the songs)?

redpill me on novation peak

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>>74610165

Driver Error compensation is a quick way of getting closer - near the bottom of the page on the link below:

https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/articles/209072289-Latency-and-Delay-Compensation-overview

>>74610277
wow thanks anon

>>74610268
I don't know much about it, but seems expensive for digital. Though novation has made some good digital va synths before.

the wavetable selection per oscillator looks cool, would be interesting if that could be modulated.