Classical music is not complex.
Bach, Coltrane, Slint, ect are not complex.
Music will never truly be complex besides Musique concrète, Electroacoustic, and Integral Serialism.
Is Ferneyhough comples?
>>74578887
What? Are you high?
>music is not complex
>but I'm going to list a bunch of complex music genres
"ok"
this is actually kind of true
>>74578859
phonemenomicon
>>74578859
>listens to his one-string banjo music
>Doesn't know their maj7#5 arpeggios, the scales it is diatonic to or its appropriate application as a substitute chord
>>74578859
>music wasn't complex until these genres that came out of technology and industrialisation
t. robot overlord
Bach's a piece of piss but Coltrane ain't easy. Slint? Maybe, I'm not falling for that one again just yet. Electroacoustic? If it's what I imagine then it's mostly intuitive. As for the other two they do sound quite difficult actually.
We must also consider the complexity of performance as well.
>>74581541
The GRM stuff is intuitive, the Darmstadt stuff (Stockhausen) is meticulously organized but actually doesn't sound anywhere near as good. The recording process is also tedious as fuck, but that doesn't mean it's "complex".
There's no useful metric to determine complexity in the musical sense anyway, especially for stuff like musique concrete. It's ultimately a meaningless thing to think about. It doesn't translate to good or sophisticated or worth composing or listening to.
>>74581847
>I know someone who would disagree
t. Grade 6 piano m8
Is New Complexity complex?
>>74581847
pretty sure you can describe complexity in terms of entropy