KPOP GENERAL

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what's so fucking hard to understand about this?

Is Nancy a hapa?

>>74552132
has she done any more slutty modeling stuff? I haven't heard of her lately

>>74552131
what's this even supposed to mean? talk like a normal person for once instead of hiding behind your memetext cause you're afraid of actually talking to someone

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~6th for chewy

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>>74552141
i want wendy and taeyeon to bake together again, or just have an smstation together

>>74552159
based lierene

>>74552163
>more

she hasnt done any

>>74552166
i'm sorry anon i just really want to make friends, please teach me to be more like you

>>74552173
I thought this was a reference to smoking weed

>>74552159
nothing, it just means that nothing you say is worth anything to anyone else

>>74552148
>>74552126
>>74552168
he's explanation is just as a valid as anyone else opinion because there's no such thing as objectively good music, right?

you can say that you like the sound of a certain instrument/progression/key/whatever, but then there's other people who don't. at the end of of the day it's just your preference.

>>74552190
is it just me or did laboum's promotions end fast?

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>>74552166

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I'm flying highhhh
so get your hands up

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the correct way to discuss music is 'wow is soty'

onew groped my leg

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tfw u get angry at kpg

>>74552205
>millions of flies can't be wrong

>>74552228
yuha with long brown hair looks like a different person, like an AS or dal shabet member

>articulate properly and write a well thought out essay on some songs
>thread dies in 30 minutes max
>woah i sure contributed to this 4chan community do they love me yet?

Why is noone talking about the Twitter fight between exoshittets and tarashitters

>>74552239
what does babysoul have to do with your post?

>>74552244
>and hate something by all measu
??

what happened to the rest of the post?

>>74552228
I'm getting something else up omooo...

>>74552166
greentext is the language of 4chan. if you are unable to learn it, there are a number of other Korean pop music communities that might be more up your alley, such as Onehallyu and /r/kpop.

>>74552254
because we dont give a shit about twitter drama

>>74552234
you mean pussy

There are subjective and objective things in art. That's why you can like something bad and hate something good

>>74552244
twice is bad by any measure

>>74552239
babysoul pls calm down

>>74552206
no it's not you absolute fucking imbecile, because this has nothing to do with there being objectively good music or not. this is about, and always was about, being able to contribute to a discussion, and just saying "it's shit" is NOT an explanation or and elaboration or anything more than you just vomiting your opinion out as if its fact, and thus is in no way helpful yo anyone else who might be trying to understand why you have a different opinion to theirs. did you never go to school? did you never have to write and english or history or politics essay? this is the kind of shit they teach you when you're 13

>>74552239
tfw u get angry at jiyeon and her tattoos

>>74552254
this isn't onehallyu

>>74552204
delete this, he's our guy

>>74552204
at least his stage name isn't black monster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNUP5B_NZUE

can we all agree that this is a strong SOTY contender?

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>>74552257
>babysoul
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>74552228
Does stone have the best hips in kpop?

>>74552286
hobgoblin was better

>>74552274
cringing hard, i hope this has all been an elaborate bait

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>>74552281
yeri spotted

>>74552286
this would be insulting to the actual SOTY excuse me

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>>74552301
yes

>>74552192
Sorry to inform you but she is absolutely not one

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hot

>>74552192

flat bitch wearing a diaper. why do they even take photos like this? they have to know it doesnt look good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu7OmSqHVng

This is better than red flavor

>>74552305
no it hasn't, started off as expressing a frustration, turned into trying to explain the basics of conversation and debate to a complete idiot, im the one fucking cringing here

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>>74552316
yeri mentioned

>>74552349
t. cringelord

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>>74552286
I love it but it's not SOTY

this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdqpTN4SKXg

>>74552354
Whoa...

>>74552301
narrow hips are best hips, any non-virgin would agree

>>74552343
nope
the accoustic version is close though

>>74552343
the acoustic version's way better tho

>>74552305
>>74552349
>cringing
cringe

>>74552343
Acoustic

>>74552206
i mean that's more or less the point
since opinions are subjective, it doesn't mean anything to insist songs are "shit" because of your tastes and to insist it's some kind of absolute truth because it feels that way to you, instead of trying to elucidate what each of you actually like about it

>>74552337
when did nayeon gain so much weight

>>74552274
annnddddd in the end music quality is subjective so yeah... your opinion is nothing special. There's a billion different ways that you could explain why sushi is good but in the end many people don't enjoy eating it. So both opinions are meaningless since taste is subjective

>>74552254
Why is there even a fight between them?
I can't think of two more unrelated fandoms.

>>74552343
word desu, i thought they would sneak it onto the album as a bonus track or something

>cringe
t. cringer

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>>74552360
yeri reacted to

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>>74552163
https://www.instagram.com/ji_na_kk/

I'm glad my waifu isnt a club slut like Roa
I'll never have to worry about some drunken gaypop pervert feeling her up on a night out

>>74552389
it's probably the yearly butthurt because t-ara beat someone in the fan army thing

roa spammer btfo

>>74552410
your waifu is one night with onew away from being ran out of the country

no girl is safe

>>74552388
oh my god you might be the single densest person ive ever encountered. i give the fuck up, you are clearly incapable to reading and understanding simple ideas. literally nothing you have posted has been an actual response to anything i've posted, but i guess that makes sense bc your idea of good discussion is just a bunch of people saying "it's shit". bye, have a nice day. maybe go outside and read a book, will probably do you some good

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>i-im doing the dance like they showed me
>i-is this sexy

>>74552421
it's about fucking time

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i'd ree her gyeong if you know what i mean

How low has SNSD sunk? I mean shit, they're not charting well at all, even Fingertip did better.

>>74552431
*incapable of

>>74552417
based chinese bots

>>74552343
irene is a top visual beauty

>>74552434
yes

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>>74552439
no I actually don't

>>74552434
her terrible attempts at being sexy is one of my favorite things about mina

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>>74552462

>>74552431
>rage quitting

lmao

>>74552434
it is

>>74552471
i know it's dumb but they literally ignore everything i write, how the fuck am i supposed to argue with that?

That's it. Since that guy couldn't handle the debate and probably left the thread by now, I'll make an attempt to define music quality:

1.By popularity
or
2.Complexity

>>74552468
too bright for me

the irene pcs i got are too pretty

she's so pure and innocent i have to protect her

>>74552506
>couldn't handle the debate

more like you can't read

>>74552511
im jealous

>>74552403
wtff she us friends with twicecunt??

D R O P P E D

why is /mu/ out of it's containment threads?

>>74552500
he's still SEETHING L M A O

can't believe seulgi posts here

>>74552522
still waiting for that wendy pc though, but i can deal! i got a wendy fan coming in the next couple weeks. trying to keep it in pristine condition for their concert (i wish it was soon, for a us tour)

>>74552518
this was for this >>74552434

>>74552543
What did she post?

>>74552493
passive-aggressively try to convince him his waifu is ugly

>>74552556
she's the one who can't read

>>74552439
kyu

>>74552506
Justin Biebier and someone mashing random keys are the GOATs

>>74552570
choaaah :)

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goodnight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvtxprSnJhU

>>74552468
wording this

>>74552567
what if they like gaypop tho

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>>74552343
we are lucky to have irene

>>74552573
But how is she replying to anon...

>That one guy that spams "seething" and "l m a o"

What's his story?

>>74552506
complexity huh

how about noise music that's impossible to replicate? that's kinda complex, no?

>>74552596
there's actually two of us now

>>74552506
des
pa
cito

actually is a banger tho desu

>>74552596
he has aids, please be nice to him

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>>74552584
goodnight

Classical music is objectively the best music. Just try to imagine someone actually creating the 5th symphony of Beethoven.... it blows my mind how difficult it is to make a masterpiece like that

kangz...

>>74552617
They're sleeping way too close together.

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H E A T E D

Just try to imagine someone actually creating the Signal of Twice.... it blows my mind how difficult it is to make a masterpiece like that

>>74552598
if it's impossible to replicate then why bother with it?

rabid fans almost tore off wanna one jihoon's finger
they don't have bodyguards

>>74552654
source

>>74552654
classic ymc

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>>74552617
comfy..

>>74552633
not close enough

>>74552642
I heard signal beats in a electro house compilation before the song came out... it's not the same instrumental but it's pretty close

>>74552647
nothing is worth bothering with except gardening

>>74552654
they should hire us to protect them

kpg regulars are probably the kind of people who would pick helplessness blues as the best fleet foxes album, no point trying to talk to them about music or really anything other than korean women's butts desu

>>74552659
https://twitter.com/Sharowl0401/status/897039816243544066

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>>74552614
he seems like a pretty cool guy

>>74552639
In Hell, hopefully.

>>74552616
>pig ruins another pic

>>74552673
that looks really bad

>>74552672
hul

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>>74552617
her sleepy face is the best

>>74552672
don't worry about it

>>74552673
ouch

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geung lee has a bitchface though

>>74552672
ew we don't listen weird burger music here

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>tfw you discover you have psycho fans

>>74552513
>>74552551
schizophrenia and kpop together at last

>>74552700
we love bitchfaces here

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>>74552681
>Sunny improves another pic

word

>>74552673
this was caused by an umberella?

>>74552662
Any closer and I'm going to kill Sejeong.

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>>74552700
i'm into it

Objectively good music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS6n2Hx9Ykk

Recycled beats, terrible vocals, rap trash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePpPVE-GGJw

>>74552713
wanna take that fat pig to pound town dbh

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gEpYmr_bHU

>pisstin shitters actually believe this whore is waifu material

L M A O

>>74552706
i'm sure they knew during broduce

>>74552713
is this recent?

what the fuck happened to her
too much bimbap

>>74552720
i think a fan tried to hold his hand

>>74552706
the cost of 400k first week sales

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>>74552728
so you want to pork her

>>74552506
complexity is only good if it's beautiful but then it's not the complexity itself but the subjective quality it accomplishes and simpler music can do that too
it'd be easy to compute a mess of a score that's more complex than anything people actually like to listen to

>>74552722
lmao what

>>74552724
this is what reading a book looks like, mina should take advice from this to fabricate her "intellectual" image

>>74552722
>not wanting mimi sej snuggles
wtf

>>74552713
nothing against sunny, but maybe sm should consider a more 'behind the scenes' type of role for her

>>74552760
>passive aggressive beta response

L M A O

>>74552579
>mashing random keys

examples?

>>74552513
>>74552551
based tinny
tinny is back

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>>74552722
strongjeongie would crush you like a worm

>>74552770
he's probably also a wujushitter

what's your favorite kpg meme?

>>74552802
*saves memes*

>>74552802
mina and bambam

>>74552802
babysoul

>>74552654
post proof

>>74552802
it's just one guy

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im only obsessed with choa from 2014

after that she had bad plastic surgery and got fat

>>74552343
Yep
We need another velvet album stat

>>74552787
bye bye L M A O

>>74552807
where do the fucking memes get saved to anyway??? they never reappear ;___;

>>74552802
Xiumin and Mark.webm

>>74552832
no

>>74552747
Well some people think moral values are subjective so why wouldn't they think the same about music?

Complexity ranking:

1.Classic music
2. Many rock and prog rock bands before the 80's
3. Folk music/ Middle Ages music

>>74552802
dating idols are sluts

>>74552832
kek gets me everytime

>>74552802
don't worry about it

when do the best posters log on

>>74552851
never

>>74552851
i logged on a while ago but then everyone was an idiot so i just started talking about memes

>>74552851
gaypoppers should come on in the next hour

>>74552851
rv time is in a few hours

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>>74552832
i like that one too

>>74552869
who the actual fuck are you talking about

>>74552700
a pretty scary bareface as well

>>74552874
black hair xiumin is the best

>>74552872
t. reddit velveteer

>>74552863
we're posting waifus

>>74552851

>>74552872

>>74552872
rv time is the worst time

>>74552882
word

>>74552354

she has a fridge torso but the thigh and booty game though

>>74552506
i wouldn't bother. the elements that determine the quality of music, or any art really, don't readily translate into language. the broad concepts of these elements can be defined (e.g. technical difficulty, lyricism, the rearrangement of familiar sound patterns/timbres into novel yet comprehensible combinations, etc etc), but how they're actually being used in an individual song can't, at least not in a timely, efficient manner.

ultimately, the songs themselves have to be the proof.

in cases where two people disagree about the quality of a song after listening to it, then we have to ask how that came to be, and whether this difference reflects one of the listeners being more qualified to judge music. is he not the intended target audience (e.g. lyrics about disliking your girlfriend will mean little to foreveralone NEETs)? is he tone-deaf? was he feeling particularly happy that day, creating a halo effect that improved his assessment of the song? is he a pleb who hasn't listened to enough songs to develop an accurate sense of a song's ranking relative to the rest of the world? is he a brainlet who's amused by very simple patterns but frightened by complex ones?

why is this iphone poster really autistic

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>>74552881
>b-but she's cute!

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what going on in this thread

>>74552923
pristinshitter, what can you expect

>>74552872
it's always rv time on reddit though, why wait?

i've developed some sort of mental illness by posting here

>>74552941
who is you're waifu

>>74552757
what did he mean by this

today on no-one here as any fucking idea how to talk about music, no-one here has any fucking idea how to talk about music

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>>74552700
it's a very lovable face

>>74552925
she looks really good

kpop is the only good music desu

>>74552953
don't worry about it

divina commedia is still soty

music doesnt need to be discussed other than to share new music

>>74552950
see >>74552973

>>74552950
babysoul

NK is preparing missiles.
Which groups are safe?

remember that even though there are a bunch of weird autistic posters here, there are still some good people that post here, even if it's not many

kpg machine broke

>>74552953
why would i waste brainpower critically discussing pop music

>>74552950
mijoo

>>74552980
sometimes discussing it can make you appreciate something you didn't get otherwise tho

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can we discuss hyeris body of work

>>74553009
who the fuck is roa

taeyang is gonna drop the aoty

>>74552987
word like us reveluvs, am i right???
(this is sarcasm)

>>74553019
the one who goes clubbing on the weekends

>>74553019
this fucking white sausage that got spammed all over the thread

>>74553027
obsessed

>>74553025
rv already did that tho

>>74553029
what

>>74553027
word
(not sarcasm)

>>74553039
and exo

>>74552925
If I had a joke wish I'd use it to ban all cosmetics in korea

>>74552987
>>74552987
the yoona poster is pretty decent

>>74553032
so what's the deal with her hips?

>>74552925
we meme about this a lot with other idols but she literally look like babysoul here

>>74553047
nah not exo

ah, so roa is the super nugu uggo that's getting spammed then

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>>74553047
i liked the war too but rookie is still aoty for me
maybe i'm just too biased

>>74552987
the guy that always aggros choaposter is okay by me.

>>74553067
every album released by sm this year is aoty

>>74552919
Why is Beethoven and Queen still remembered to this day but everybody already forgot about the ''Harlem shake'' thing?

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>>74553052
>what's the deal
they're just amazing

>>74553009
>>74553031
>>74552960
shameless samefag

>>74553012

yeah and that makes up about 2% of the discussion on mu overall the rest is just shit posting which is fine

>>74553084
it goes without saying that no one here likes choafag, but okay i agree.

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if you look deep inside yourself you'll hear something very faint, then it gets louder and louder

lookie lookie... my super lookie lookie

MATJI MATJI

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>>74552434

compare to this

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>>74553108

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>>74553108

>>74553101
i like him...

>>74553113
^ found choafag

>>74553117
>slowmo garbage

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cbx comeback soon

>>74553121
truly a kpop masterpiece. addicting af
>>74553122
i can't wait for that red summer wendy fan, she has the same hairstyle as in your pic

>>74553139
"No"

>>74553113
he really isn't
he thinks about punching mina right in the kidney so he can fuck off

>>74553139
our guys

>>74553139
10 10 4

>>74553139
they're not going to get a comeback because they're too busy with nct instead

>>74553138
considering that your sentence looks like it was written by not a 6th grader im inclined to believe you... he'd have said something like "people love choa and choaposter and choa did nothing wrong because choa is pure" etc etc. but still, there are plenty of people here that don't like choafag. but i can see why people like him, if only for the fact that aoa/choa are still, more or less, likable.

reddit velvet getting the f(x) treatment cant come soon enough

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say only nice things about mina now

>>74553176
she needs to be put in ice

literally

>>74553176
she has an IQ higher than a grapefruit... that's something...

>>74553176
one of the best mina's

>4 minas in kpop
>only one of them counts

>>74553176
Mina is cute and unique

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>>74553185
>>74553186

why would you wish to be unkind

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>>74553163
idiot

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>>74553161
whatever you say

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Anjoonk kpg
Wheen will you finally live amday without being so full of hate?
Daily reminder that we're all here because we like kpop, so we should be nice to each other (at least sometimes
>Heartuu

>>74553196
whats to understand? whenever he shows up he just spams choa. if you dont particularly care for aoa or choa why would you like that? why would that make you an idiot. shes not some universally likable person. not even close.

>>74553211
kys

>>74553207
being kind won't help her

>>74553218
you are talking to him right now

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>>74553218
> not a universally likable person
That's where you're wrong, chingu

post exo member and say nice things about him

>>74553239
she abandoned aoa selfishly, theres nothing likable about that

>>74553236
doubt it, he couldnt maintain an actual conversation for this long.

>>74553241
we all saw your posts last thread, why do you samefag?

>>74553248
nugu?

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>>74553248
Choa is way better than exo
>>74553250
Not true

>>74553082
i'm not a scholar or anything but i guess it's because they have a subjective sense of beauty to a lot of people. it doesn't reduce to something as easy as "complexity"
schoenberg or stuff like new complexity won't be remembered too long outside of enthusiasts despite the music being objectively pretty freaking complex

>>74553082
more technical skill. more novel in comparison to the music of their peers at the time of creation. a difference in the former two being a part of a tradition of 'serious music' that aspires to leave a historical footprint, and is therefore treated by its fanbase with reverence, while the last is party music that dies at the end of a season (compare, in literature, works of fine literature vs erotic fanfic). the fact Harlem Shake was popularised more for its dance-meme potential than the music itself.

again, though, none of what i'm saying captures the actual musical aspects separating them. it's not possible to do this without referring to mathematical values. if you want, i can explain what i mean by that last bit further, but this post is already tl;dr.

>>74553139
hopefully, they need to redeem the exo name after after how bad exact and the war were

my wish is for all the autistic posters to leave this place forever

>>74553283
be the change you want to see

>>74553281
ex'act and the war are absolute masterpieces (You) idiot

>>74553283
you automatically become autistic once you start posting here

>>74553274
okay this is choafag for sure. saying not true and thinking that'd suffice as an actual retort in the face of facts is the hallmark of choafag

>>74553082
> because harlem shake isn't taught at schools and or shoved in your face constantly

>>74553283
why do you want an empty thread?

>>74553281
bait

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>>74553259

>>74553241
>>74553270
>/soc/ shit

you fags need to go back to where ever you came from

>>74553304
i like his big ears

>>74553304
pcy can sing and rap. truly a great artist

>>74553292
>>74553303
exodrones

>>74553274
i love you choaposter, never stop memeing

>>74553310
i wish
but old kpg will never be back

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kai is handsome and ripped.

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>>74553322
Park Choa, Yes
Park Chan Yeol, no

yeri?

>>74553338
he's got it all

thinking that complexity is inherently a good thing is a retarded philosophy. it's something that usually those smug atheist metal-heads believe. like my brother's friend who plays in a metal band. their songs aren't perfect until they're super complex but then they just sound like shit to almost everyone

there is beauty in simplicity. it's not necessarily a bad thing, and complexity isn't necessarily a good thing

>>74553338
i hear that kai is the group dummy

>>74553343
Yeri is a fridge everyone

>>74553338
i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about Kai. u wouldnt say this shit to him at mcountdown, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic

>>74553298
>Queen is taught in school

what did he mean by this

>>74553368
>u kids

like you arent a 15 year old gayboi

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>>74553364
you heard it wrong

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happy birthday

>>74553380

>>74553383
it's her last

>>74553371
not him but i remember learning 'we are the champions' in grade 6 music class

i love choa and people who post choa