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>>74490295
White Power 14/88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liiQuvYx73M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuFAMAYjgq8

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBx9qqBraqY

>>74490318
dude this music is like so badass and hardcore my momma would never listen to this (sarcasm)

>>74490456
Can summer please fucking end

>>74490495
here's some metal you might like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ul-cZyuYq4

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>>74490318
>White Power 14/88
>posts a band that had a Jew as a member

repeating this
>I checked the old thread and someone posted he had some of the Enpedestalment stuff.
you here anon?

What's some good deathcore?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxQ8wD3WrXI

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Tell me what you're blasting /meal/

>>74490640
Thy Art Is Murder
Whitechapel
That's pretty much it.

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>>74490691
Racially Warrant Running Wild

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>>74490703

>>74490760
Prove me wrong then

>>74490691
Incantations new album

>>74490771
There is only one good deathcore band and that's Protest The Hero

>>74490785
What about Gojira, though?

>>74489686
I hate most things -core. It's just not my thing even if it's not a hackjob. One of my friends liked this shit, and everything he played made me ambivalent at best. The few things I liked didn't come from the 'core' part.
Damage Done might _border_ on this general melodic core shit from 2000s. But to hell with it, I'm prepared for some cheese

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Is this metalcore or deathcore and what is deathcore

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>>74490818
It's neither, it's progressive death metal

>>74490804
Well it's just, going by how your melodeath adventure is going, it seems your tastes lean a lot more towards deathcore than towards proper melodeath/gothemburg

>>74490691
music is for degenerates, I only come here to shitpost

>>74490832
Gojira is crappy music for hipsters, not death metal.

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>>74490691
did you know you can copy a file path by shift-rightclicking on it and clicking "copy as path"?

>>74490847
t. Abdul

>>74490873
the fuck?

>>74490873
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can mislabel it to keep your preferred subgenre "pure"

>>74490832
>progressive death metal
It's not death metal, and it's hardly progressive. If anything it's some sort of groovy metalcore

>>74490900
Just because you like it doesn't mean you can mislabel it to keep it in your preferred subgenre because it gives it "cred"

>>74490928
lol nice try m8, I only like one song by them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBLaTY1Rec0

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>>74490771
>>74490785
>>74490802
>>74490818
>>74490832

leprous, protest the hero, gojira, the list can go on..

>>74490900
Except Gojira has nothing to do with DM from a musical perspective. There is a particular sound and image to true Death Metal, be it Incantation or Slaughter Lord, and, sorry to say, endless power chord "chugging" over blast beats and angry metalcore singing about pseudo-intellectualism is not Death Metal.

>>74490949
>nice try m8
ok

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>>74490967
>>74490928
fin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7jOnFeCa7o
death metal or metalcore?

>>74490967
>all death metal has to sound like dry overdone OSDM
Yeah nah

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>>74490979
>technical death metal

How to shitpost in /metal/

Take any band
Claim they are [any adjective]
Done

>>74490834
Hmm ok. I tried As Blood Runs Back and After the Burial. Frankly too much -core, not so much melody.
That said, I kind of enjoyed Edge of Sanity and Carcass, but felt I needed several listens to digest it because I didn't 'understand' half what I heard.

>>74490979
What did you think you were goingt o achieve posting that?

>>74490995
>Morbid Angel
It's just shit m8.

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>>74490878
fuck i cant believe i didnt know that

>>74491017
>I didn't 'understand' half what I heard.
wthmbt

>>74490998
I never said that, but you should realize that Gojira from a musical perspective is much closer to metalcore like Earth Crisis and Converge than to actual death metal. Also, if you like Gojira but dismiss 80s and early 90s DM then you really should hang yourself.

>>74491002
It's actually more the disagreeing with the original post part which counts as shitposting.

>>74491024
fuck off with your revisionist hipster garbage

>>74491043
>the subgenre is defined by how skinny and feminine the band members are
That's pretty much your argument in a nutshell

>>74491061
No revisionism they're just a shit band. Being oldschool isn't enough sorry. So many better OSDM bands to choose from.

>>74491074
i would have no problem telling you how Slaughter Lord is not "dry overdone OSDM", but you are clearly just a homosexual.

>>74491091
It doesn't matter if you personally enjoy them, but calling one of the most influential and important DM bands shitty (at least if you are including pre-2003 stuff) is insulting to the genre itself.

>>74491036
Just felt like there's too much going on. I mean, I'm still not too used to metal, more to standard verse chorus verse stuff, so DM sometimes overwhelms me with the amount of change. I can tell there's something there but I don't consciously grasp what is it.

>>74491091
>So many better OSDM bands to choose from.
deicide, obituary, bolt thrower, the list can go on..

>>74491074
>I'm going to ignore three quarters of your argument and focus on the bit that offends me personally

>>74491091
>So many better OSDM bands to choose from
Well yeah plenty of bands didn't suffer the sheer drop in quality Morbid Angel did when they went from Altars to Blessed but very few death metal albums, even metal albums in general can pack in as many great riffs as Altars does while not coming off as unfocused, wanky, or overdone. If you can't enjoy an album like Altars Of Madness then your taste in death metal is severely flawed.

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>>74490640
>>74490703
>>74490771
>>74490785
Hello?

>>74491324
Iunno, I'm not the other guy, but honestly there are death/thrash albums from places like Brazil and Benelux and that are more rifftastic OSDM than Altar Of Madnes without even being OSDM. I've always felt it's one of the most overrated of the seminal albums. Not to say it's bad, though.

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https://youtu.be/B3JO8abCmlM

>>74491127
All shit.
Raw underground osdm is the only good osdm.

>>74491370
>implying good
yes, hello?

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>>74491395
So, pic related and absolutely nothing else then

>>74491370
It's like they're allergic to trying to write something good. Every riff they write needs to be as cluttered and frantic as can be with no regard to tone or direction.
Off the bat this is just another death metal album in name only, it has the growls, it has the distortion, and it has the hyper fast drumming, but everything is assembled so mechanically together, topped off with such digital cleanness and shiny pristine, like it wants to seem heavy but is so ashamed to be a part of the scene. There's no passion here, it's like some snobby mallcore kids tried their hands at making "intelligent" death metal, they wrote a checklist for what they thought would be necessary to count as death metal and then filled it with needless complexity for that "intelligent" aspect. Riffs vary between being fast and intricate slurries of notes to being basic, but still fast, death metal chugs you've heard a million times over, everything wrapped up in a brick walled to fuck production where bass is only audible when the band wants to remind you that they do indeed have a bassist. Songs are long, aimless, and twist and turn without any bit of focus. Riff (and I use that term quite loosely here) leading into riff leading into solo leading into riff comprises the song writing ideas here, with some occasional orchestral samples thrown in to make this album seem grander than it is. It's a nauseating and headache inducing experience, while not as annoying as Rings Of Saturn or Dawn Of Dementia, it's equally as flashy and unnecessary. Completely irredeemable garbage with not one decent moment in its duration.

>>74491324
It's not really enjoyment that's necessary, but a respect for the early significance of Abominations of Desolation, the impact of Altars of Madness, and the songwriting of Blessed are the Sick.

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>>74491102
>>74491133

>>74491423
That is literally the opposite of the planetary duality.
inb4 that one autist that tries really hard to trigger people to hide the fact that he is perpetually triggered.

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>>74491433
>ur a bunch of meanies ;_;

>>74491324
Altars is the closest thing to an interesting album they've made and it's still pretty meh. They just sound bland even if they're influential. It's like Pixies compared to 90s rock bands they just sound flat by comparison.

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>>74491455
>triggered by stale copypasta

>>74490640
Good Deathcore:

Necrophagia (demos)
Poison (Ger)
Necrobutcher (Bra)
Blood (Ger)

This is what was considered deathcore in the 80s, before the term was stolen by people mixing death/grind and metalcore in the late 90s.

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>>74491501
>This is what was considered deathcore in the 80s
Uh honey

>>74491433
What the actual fuck is this?

>>74491395
again, fuck off with this revisionism. Liking obscure shit and dismissing better music because it's more known is absolutely dumb. Give me Deicide's s/t over Exmortis and Grausamkeit every time.

>>74491395
pffft

>>74491433
This is the gayest thing I've seen all day

>>74491532
A butthurt corefag's lame last attempts at "winning" an "argument". He sure showed them.

>>74491524
Blood and Deathcore are both from the same scene of German grindcore. I wonder what all of these guys think of the modern term?

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This is literally just carnival music with blastbeats and growls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5IkzucW4Us

True Satanic Black Metal are bands such as Darkthrone, Arya Satankampf, Graveland, Gestapo 666, Satanic Warmaster, Beherit and Impaled Nazarene. You can listen to Metallica if you want, but you do not understand the true Hitleric Nazi black metal thing. You just poser and you can fuck off the whole scene. Black Metal is real music, not intended for animals like you, but the real Satanic Misantrophics who do not care like you clown from. Black Metal is an elite music, and you do not understand it. None of you understand the real Satanism. You ridiculous little kids. World view is based on hitlerism, on a personal level Satanic individualism, collective level hitleric fascism. Without a theoretical understanding of the occult, it is useless to dream of understanding wotanic worldview. None of you can not understand Wotanism, because you are all intellectually at the same level as the earthworms. You can not reach an elite level of Satanism, so why even dream about it. Satanism and Black Metal are the elite. For real misantrophes.

>>74491501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEu368O7YjU

Once again the only good actual literal deathcore band in existence

>>74491590
They're probably perfectly unaware of it

>>74491564
How'd you miss this one m8?
>>74490318

>>74491395
t. just started listening to death metal a month ago

>>74491616
Ah the innocence. Imagine being an early Gen X dude listening to metal in the 80s and 90s then retiring at the perfect time with your collection of classics and no knowledge of Suicide Silence, Whitechapel, and Gojira.

>>74491598
/mu/ btfo

>>74491604
copypasta pls go

>>74491620
nah that's pretty based bro in all actuality

>>74483329
late reply but anyway
Until I got into DM, I often thought how prog was such a good concept but at the same time a wasted opportunity. Technically, it started it all: unusual composition, experiments with song structure, etc etc. And not to mention, it had some decent musicians there.
But that's about where it's good qualities end. Created by pseudo-intellectual hippies, it is a wussy music for '70s fedoras and numales. It has zero energy and often borders on lounge music. Instead, it brings pointless "unorthodox" instruments like flutes, fiddles, klaxons, fart pillows, etc. This underlines the key problem with it—its features often lacked point.
No wonder it turned to wank for the heck of wank really quick. 10 minute drum solos, 1 hour long compositions, unneeded improvisations/jams—everything just screamed "tired and forced" about it. Heck, even King Crimson, despite being a touchstone for metal and producing such a masterpiece as Red (the track), often filled their albums with jams and simply filler.
So while I still do enjoy some of it, I feel that DM basically took their ideas and made them good.

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>>74491587
>>74491532
>>74491564
>>74491461
>not recognising shitposts when you see them

>>74491370
This album is pretty much what's wrong with modern metal in general. It's like these guys are secretly ashamed that they're making death metal (or deathcore), so they want to add a bunch of bells and whistles to it to make it more dignified or intelligent or whatever. In reality, if this was just a generic deathcore album I might actually have enjoyed it more. (MitochondrialAdam explained this copying of various characteristics of classical music/jazz/whatever as 'trying to create the appearance of musical value without making a statement'. I think that's elegant enough.) In reality, despite (and in fact because of) their diligent plastering of doodads and one-shot gimmicks to every inch of this, it still reeks of poorly-realized ideas and contrived... well, contrived everything, really. I can just copy and paste what I said in my Colors review about the construction of this and the wrongness of the essential musical motivation underlying it (I can also do this for any album by Obscura or Fleshgod Apocalypse or whatever tech death band people graduate to after getting tired of Warped Tour material these days), because they suffer the same issues adapted to different genre frameworks, but I won't, because I want to put a bit more effort into explaining my dislike.

Honestly, this album is one of my least favorite things in existence. It's a tortuously long 31 minutes of utter nonsense. It's almost enough to make me want to stop listening to metal. A ton of the attraction that people seem to have for it is based on its "eclecticism", but that's its most utter failure, since it uses those tacked-on elements to distract from its idiotic composition Rather than pulling them into tracks that manipulate tension well, and act as actual songs from beginning to end, these guys make slideshows of unrelated sections slapped together with no musical sensibility.

Need some good brutal slam recommendations, preferably with tons of bass drops ? Can you help me anon ?

>>74491761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRlhMyXmTYQ

>>74491751
>fallback into the lol i was only pretendin meme

>>74491653
>you will never go to sleep peacefully unaware of Illud's existence
>you will never wake up in the morning, make yourself a nice breakfast of croissants, eggs, bacon, and sausage confident that Slaughter of the Soul was just a flash-in-the-pan record that had no impact on the scene as a whole
>you will never go on your morning jog enjoying the sounds of Pleasure To Kill while knowing Sumerian only as a culture and not a record label
>you will never raucously play pool with your biker friends in some run-down dive bar, reminiscing about how record labels like Earache, Metal Blade, and Nuclear Blast brought great works into the metal world with no knowledge of what they've become
>you will never bash in niggers skulls while being blind to the existence of people like Jared Dines and SteveTerryBerry

>>74491761
Opinions on this band?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRK_M1vJXfQ

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>>74490691

>>74490785
PTH are great, but they're not deathcore

>>74491806
>le fretless bass wankcore

Power metal is the ultimate nu-male repellent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta0jB5BcP5E

>>74491813
let me guess, they're progressive death metal

>>74491804
there's an actual way you can enjoy these pleasures, it's called icepick lobotomy

>>74491761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxS8xmDRzA
This is the logical conclusion to slam.

>>74491803
>unironically believing that someone would think that CC was more death metal than gojira
What world do you live in, lad?

>>74491806
> not posting the superior Phil Boucher project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc_8i1-AekA

>>74491821
>le
>>>/reddit/

>>74491831
there are people who actually think protest the hero have death metal influences

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>>74491804
;_;

>>74491831
they're mathcore/progressive metalcore

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>>74491827
>this trash sounds like an edgy 13 year old growling over sonic adventure music

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>>74491804
>ywn see a metal scene as genuine as 80s/90s underground metal again
>Everything will be vapid cash in attempts to get big n rich

>>74491923
yeah, like Teitanblood!!! the cash grabbers, the fillthy disso cash cows favo. I tried seeing those attunements as some ointment regarding power, but no, it was not meant to be. Instead I end up with a "great-heart" the size of the kilimanjaro, forgetting all my worries regarding the situation of commercial metal, as you call it. You should really be ashamed of yourself considering all of this.

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>>74491812
That's a good one; you should check pic related if you don't know them already
>>74491838
/metal/
>>74491881
>mathcore
why
>progressive metalcore
Metalcore is slower and heavier and doesn't really deal with technicality, even if it's "progressive". Progressive metalcore would be something like The Ocean

>>74491990
the ocean is progressive pseudosludge like mastodon

>>74490691
Helheim and Sleaford Mods

>>74492055
I'm clearly dealing with someone with a disability and I apologise for making you keep up with all this.

>>74491969
what

>>74491844
This is pretty nifty lad

>>74491806
As much as I hate using the term Reddit to describe something, Beyond Creation are by far the most Reddit technical death metal band to ever exist.
This doesn't imply that they're the worst, in fact, out of the slew of modern wank shit bands that shovel out albums like a nigress plopping out another child to make her welfare check bigger, Beyond Creation are actually in the range of being tolerable (then again I only ever listened to their first album so maybe their newer stuff suffers from schizophrenically throwing in carnival calliope-sounding minor scale sweep frenzies punctuated with elongated tapping sessions to contrast with the cleaner jazzy breaks that sound like the background music for cell phone commercials). The reason I refer to Beyond Creation as a reddit incarnate of a band lies between the image they've cultivated of themselves, but first let me define what I see reddit entails as a term.
Reddit refers to a juvenile infatuation with flashy parlor tricks and hype culture. Redditors love Alestorm because "Bro pirate metal!" while being completely unaware of a band like Running Wild due to the latter's lack of magazine sponsored hype. Reddit loves Opeth out of being shocked that a band would use acoustic folk, blues, and progressive rock influences so heavily to amplify their death metal sound, it's not about the sound it's about what goes into the sound for them. For a reddit audience the process is more important than the product, being ornate and digestable trump being sincere and straightforward.
I, like many others, heard of this band because of typical ADHD tech death kiddies being amazed over trivial matters like how the bassist uses a fretless model and even has some "solos" throughout the album. But underneath this surface-level adoration of audible bass in the modern era of digitally compressed death metal, Beyond Creation have nothing to cultivate their image.

>>74492055
You mean aside from sounding absolutely nothing like Mastodon?

>>74492101
I'm pointing to the fact that in my heart of hearts there is this spot for commercial metal and if you look at the whole Teitanblood situation (the dissoshit commercial cashcows) you should realize that no matter how much you open your heart towards the core of what constantly has been regarded as metal, you will find nothing but unfavorable junk as time progresses. Oh and let me just say it HAS progressed for Teitanblood as it were. "Blood has been shed" is a play on words more than fitting in this situation. My god the times truly have been better.

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>>74491827
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNB4Cy4mftI

So I'm right now doing a blindfold test if I can spot the differences between a FLAC version of an album and a 192k rip. The album has been put into a playlist twice in shuffled order and I'm writing down on a piece of paper which track number is which rip. The album is Entombed - Clandestine (reflective of my favorite music and style of production). Equipment is high end studio monitors and a friend made sure nothing is bottlenecked on this side of the equation.

>>74492255
FLAC vs 192k is too easy. Really, 192 is audibly shitty regardless of your stand on FLAC vs MP3.

>>74490691
Listened to To Depths, In Degradation again yesterday and it's really fucking good osdm wise.

Also, listening to this atm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OexeAtxr24E

>>74492310
gonna do 320 later. But really, I'm so tone deaf (or don't mind shitty sound) that I don't mind 192 in most cases. With this equipment however, I think it should be a fairly high hit rate though

>tfw you will never ironically sing about the German invasion of Europe along with thousands of your fellow countrymen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FkYxnm70vg

>>74492186
we underground now

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>>74490691

>>74490995
death fucking metal, lad.

>>74492380
this guy get it. Isn't that what they used to say (not referencing Teitanblood here)

>>74491827
First, metal is a bit poor choice for this. From what I read most people say it's kinda pointless with music that has lots of distortion—basically noise. That's just like "hi-fi lo-fi". The best way to test it is trying very "clean" music with high dynamic range and no noise—classical, jazz, whatever.
Second, 192 vs FLAC will probably be noticeable. I can even tell the difference between 192 and 320 kbps sometimes. But 320/V0 and FLAC, it's barely discernable, especially on my budget equipment.
That said, I also tried it with $120 setup of planar headphones + amp, couldn't tell the difference and if it was there, it was too small to care.

>>74492356
does their drumkit have two toms?

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>>74490785
Uhhhhhhhh. Rings of Saturn? Infant Annihilator?

>>74492404
So underground counts as what? Anything that isn't under a major record label? No matter how big or small their following may be?

>>74492433
shit and shit

>>74490785
>deathcore
I thought they're metalcore/prog?

>>74492444
You gonna explain why?

>>74492441
Underground is like a change of pace, not something measured by fan size or label count. There are many theories on this, but this is not important right now.

>>74492473
sorry i meant label size or fan count obviously

>>74492473
So pioneers of a new sound essentially?

>>74492413
yeah I'm only really noticing it (I hope... ) in the parts where lots of stuff is going on/fast parts... but really, it's not a degree of degradation that detracts from the fun of the album. Of course, having an album as high quality as possible is always preferable. trying higher bitrates with something more dynamic like king crimson - red should suffice ...

>>74492462
What for

>>74491804
>ywn live in a world where extreme metal remained underground
>no band acquired critical mass enough to attract major label attention
>said majors had no awareness or interest in underground metal due to a lack of precedent for "alternative" bands selling millions
>death and especially black metal remain niche phenomena, mediocre bands like Enthroned, Obtained Enslavement, Troll, Horna never exist
Nevermind and 'Metallica' fucked it all up

>>74492521
as I said fuck teitanblood.
No, I'm just pulling your leg, they are great. Would love to see them live, are they even playing?

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>>74490691
Blasting that AOTY again and again! I am absolutely in love with this record.

>>74492589
>having an album as high quality as possible is always preferable
Yes, but not to the point where it becomes redundant and the file size is proportionately larger than the quality. Stick to 320/V0. FLAC is a shitty meme.

What is the most unique band/album of the past five/seven years? The kind of music that you see developing a substyle of its own with lots of followers that can't really be compared with anything that came before it except with vague generalisations, you know, like DsO did between 2007-2010

Name a more based youtube uploader then cosmic serpent.
You can't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40FEWwTf_eI

what are some albums similar to bathorys debut?

>>74492605
Because if you don't then your opinion isn't valid

>>74492669
First second sounded like panzer division

Just a friendly reminder that this unfunny cunt has a quarter of a billion views and 1.4 million subscribers. The vast majority of his fans are highschoolers and college-aged kids, many of them being musicians who are easily impressed by guitar playthrough videos and bands doing meme covers of non-metal songs. This generation of metal was a result of mallcore kids who grew up listening to nu-metal, melodeath and early 2000's death/metalcore. The future generation now spends their time watching technicool bands doing guitar playthrough videos, videos of Jared Dines doing metal versions of X, and basic P4k garbage (Deafheaven, Kendrick Lamar, Arcade Fire, the list goes on...). We're currently in the transitional phase, trip-hop, shoegaze, and glitch-hop are all the rave right now when it comes to bands seeking out other genres to dilute their sound with. The next generation will have fully embraced this change in the zeitgeist of metal and will churn out water-down garbage accordingly. Just remember, stuff like this is what's going to be elevated to "classic" status a decade from now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKS1WTM6fzg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDDKaXOKo5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qMugnBw4tU

>>74492715
does it djent xd

>>74492715
Guess who is to blame for this.
You can find the answer here
>>>/pol/

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>>74492634
yeah of course

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Someone last thread mentioned "bands only you listen to", an archive search for these guys only turns up like 3 mentions.

>>74492699
It's as valid as yours, cake boy

>>74492104
>>74492715
Damn, /metal/'s on point today

>>74492715
dude what do you care. Times change. Chillax and listen to some blackened death metal from a place you will probably never visit (like bolivia)

Someone linked me this a few threads back and I fucking love it now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhtqXYxjVKQ

>>74492802
Check out Ebonillumini after you're done with the Meads

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>>74492754
>"Does it djent?" is going to become the modern equivalent of old catchphrases like "Only death is real" "Wimps and posers leave the hall" "This is huh? Wow" and "Do not enter if you are a false"

>>74492759
This

>>74492822
he was looking good in the mummy (2017)

>>74492822
>old catchphrases
>This is huh wow
In what timescales does your life move, man

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I need bands that have an Arthurian sound, with runescape tier synths accompanying folkish , anyone got anything like this?

the only cool catchphrases were 'metal for this feel ?' and 'X ? it's gay....'

>>74492893
Summoning - Minas Morgul

Though I'll assume you've already listened to that.

>>74492921
Yeah :(, Summoning are great though

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>>74492893
>>74492921
And of course, if you want the tvue kvlt rvnescape experience...

>>74492963
But there's no metal there

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>>74490295

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>>74492974
Stop listening to metal.

>>74492715
While this is all depressing one thing that the new generation of metalheads are really going to miss out on is the hilarious autism that they're used to be. There's not going to be another Varg who went from burning churches, to stabbing old band's guitarist to death, to going to prison and releasing some Runescape sounding albums, to coming full circle while living in the middle of Nowhere, France recording videos in his jeep about saving the white race from Judeo-Christianity while promoting tabletop RPG's as a method of homeschooling children. There's not going to be a madman like Famine, Mirai, or Seth. The scene now attracts snapback wearing normalfags who send out snaps of themselves taking bong hits. Name one person in the djent/deathcore/tech death whatever scene whose personality and escapades are genuinely fun to read about. That's one big thing that'll be absent from the next generation.

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>>74490691

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgTrXxXc9-E

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>>74492893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxwfIPaAuMQ

EUROPEAN TASTE FOR SUGARCANE

>>74492989
I'm not sure who this compilation is for, but there's some stuff I like and some stuff I dislike. All in all I can only say this : _

>>74492589
Yep, pretty much. Try 320 kbps vs FLAC. Probably won't hear the difference at all. Any way, as I said, metal is the worst genre to try this, second only to harsh noise and lo-fi. Especially when we're talking about stuff affected by "loudness wars".
I always go 320 or V0 when I can. 192 is decent, but it's pretty much a minimum quality at which things don't sound shitty (yet). 320 is basically the point of diminished returns, from my personal experience and from what I read.
FLAC is basically "hey, this hi hat at this part sounds a tad bit more clean, totally worth 2x file size": the format. And don't even get me started on 96 kbps 24 bit, this is where you get 1 gig at least per album, and whether the difference is audible at all is still the point of online argument.

>>74492989
Some great tracks in there, surprisingly

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>>74493013
It'll be full of edgy left-wing nu-males, but wouldn't you know it, they were always there. Difference is we used to stab them.

>>74493029
this is--

PERFECT

>>74492989
>this is metal according to this compilation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPdHYy8BVEY
For what it's worth though it's not that bad, it's about what you'd expect from relying on the vox populi of /mu/ to be in charge of compiling 100 metal songs

Pantera is the only band I've heard that did Pantera good. Literally all other groove/core shit sounds like garbage. Somehow they pull it off though.

>>74493188
I didn't have enought ime to test all of them, but this is so bad it looks like a trolling.
Please suggest a song and I'll do what I can to substitute this stuff, whatever is it.

>thought i was bi
>some faggot falls in love with me
>not bi anymore
riffs for this feel?

>>74492989
so just tell me where I can get it and please tell me you at least applied replaygain tags and not some hard normalization.

>>74493281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dam0eJEwjak

>>74493255
There's not enough doom on the chart so here ya go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VraHCFwXbRE

>>74493281
>not bi anymore
So, just gay?

BY MOONLIGHT WE RIDE

>>74493327
Nah, straight

>>74493281
it's a wonder that anyone at all falls in love with you, you fucking idiot
stop acting like a French princess

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>>74493311
Sorry, I did what I could but people usually post repeated bands or didn't post at all.

>>74493281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkhZpMo2-0I

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>>74493418
Not a problem, what's fixed is fixed

>>74493029
cheers mate

>>74493013
I know this is a variant of a tired cliche but
>tfw was born a white guy in the wrong era

this thread is so incredibly painful.

>>74493589
for you

>>74493589
specify

>>74493589
You still won't tell me what's got your bagels in a twist, Mr. Liebowitz.

>>74492659
Oranssi Pazuzu for being the first band that really did the psychedelic black metal thing. Took the whole psychedelic black metal thing that was tried in records released before their first one by the likes of Menace Ruine, Nachmystium, and A Forest Of Stars to the extent where it's essentially its own style now.

Pyrrhon's take on tech death is to Ulcerate what Ulcerate's take on tech death was to Gorguts. Even more chaotic and esoteric than what came before to the extent where they have their own style.

>>74493013
fuck the metal scene, it's dead
If you're looking for genuineness and hilarity, look elsewhere

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>>74493715
If you care more about the "scene" than the music maybe you should just invest yourself in the bugchasing scene on craigslist you fucking faggot.

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>>74493814

>>74493814
Is there something I'm to dumb for if i don't get why neofolk albums contain so many annoying harsh industrial tracks. Why?

Remember that if you are not a monarchist, you're a nu-male
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_X0YMu62S8

hey guys total fuckwat that doesn't listen to any metal here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TANqlCkUbk
more like this
please don't make a political discussion on recent South Park I literally only know this from Rockband

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>>74493917
Half of them just gave up and started calling it martial industrial. The "folk" is kind of a misnomer.

>>74493947
Dream Evil is such horse shit. I can't imagine a more generic band.

>>74493814
Tell me about Douglas, why does he wear the mask?

>>74493696
Menace Ruine, AFOS and Oranssi Pazuzu debuted 2008 and 2009, though.

>>74493917
>why does a certain style contain elements of another style from which it derived????
Might as well ask why Darkthrone has Celtic Frost riffs from time to time

>>74494153
OP released their debut record in 2009. The other two did it in 2008.

>>74494183
Why are you repeating what I just said to me?

>>74494172
Yeah but the two styles seem so extremely distant from one another

>>74492104

Did you serious just wrote that wall of texts on literal beyond creation? How autistic are you?

>>74494260
One is still the direct consequence of the other. It'd seem silly to expect the newer style not to reflect the older one at times. Neofolk/Apocalyptic Folk is not the same as folk revival or acoustic-guitar-centric "indie" """""folk"""""

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>>74492659
The most innovative album I can think of which came out in recent years is probably pic related
They brought war metal and caverncore to a whole new level and it surely will be regarded as a classic in the years to come
I know teitanblood formed before 2010 and that their debut came in 2009, but Death is probably their crowning effort.

>>74494234
Oh, okay that's what you meant. Are you then trying to say that those guys tried doing it first or w/e? Because I don't disagree either. Every other artist I namedropped in that sentence did it before OP technically. But at the same time I think OP is the one that goes far enough with the style to where it has become its own thing.

>>74494295
Well okay i had no idea about the genre's history

*saves /metal/*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9rUzIMcZQ

Is Witchtrap good or a meme?

>>74494387
Both

>>74494387
Neither

>>74493814
Yeah I care, because the "scene" consisted of real people, and I'm not going to give a horseshit about some moron even if he produces metal music, it means nothing to me because it's alienated from its original social context, so respectfully I tell you to fuck off.

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>>74494337
Mainly I was pointing out that the original point was to find new and exciting developments from 2010~2012 onwards. What they did happened almost ten years ago, you realise.

Also you should check out Kuolleet Intiaanit. It's Oranssi Pazuzu's non-metal predecessor (literally; they basically just changed names and added black metal to their sound)

>>74494440
>social context more important than dank riffs

Hyper Nu male right here

>>74492893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAk_aF5NzPw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWiRMI88cPE

>>74494351
If you listen to early Neofolk like Di6's The Wörld Thät Sümmer and Brown Book, or C93's Imperium and Christ And The Pale Queens Mighty In Sorrow, you'll see that it's basically martial post-industrial accompanied by dronning acoustic to give it a timeless and solemn effect. Eventually the guitar was brought to the forefront, the noise was minimised thought never dismissed and the compositions started resembling madrigals from the renaissance as heard through Carlo Gesualdo's nightmares.

>>74494524
>Caladan Brood
Such a Summoning clone it's not even funny. MIght as well be called Channeling or Convoking

>>74493947
>worshipping a daddy figure
piss off beta cunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsU39voYIsY

>>74494543
They do Summoning better than Summoning does Summoning

>>74494495
>Hyper Nu male right here
Hyper autist right here
go outside, would ya?

>>74494528
>the compositions started resembling madrigals from the renaissance as heard through Carlo Gesualdo's nightmares.
And, in the case of Douglas P, crooked and corrupted catholic chapel songs

>>74494582
ya ok

>>74494528
That's really nice to know somehow i was always so intimidated by this genre i didn't bother to dig deeper. So thanks.

>>74494591
Seriously if you value a stabbing over aske you can leave the hall

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>>74494528

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>>74494440
>it means nothing to me because it's alienated from its original social context

I want marxists to leave. Jesus Christ how do you "people" wake up in the morning?

>>74494694
you didn't get what I was saying at all, sorry

>>74494647
You should listen to the two "trilogies" (informal and based in my own appreciation)
Death In June: Thè Wäll Öf Säcrificè - But, What Ends When The Symbols Shatter? - Rose Clouds Of Holocaust
Current 93: Thunder Perfect Mind - Of Ruine Or Some Blazing Starre (The Broken Heart Of Man) - All The Pretty Little Horses

Bonus:
Nature And Organisation - Beauty Reaps The Blood Of Solitude
^^this is the moniker of Michael Cashmore, who worked in But What Ends[...] and those three C93 albums, so it's in case you're left wanting more

Do you guys download music onto your phones? I'm referring to the more obscure albums that aren't on apps like spotify etc

>>74494700
What am I supposed to do with this reply

>>74494752
>Nature And Organisation - Beauty Reaps The Blood Of Solitude
Man that album is fucking amazing, Bloodstreamruns is one of the most beautiful songs imo

>>74494727
>how do you "people" wake up in the morning?
By alienating themselves from sleep, duh

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>>74494700
>>74494752

Do you enjoy martial industrial or is it too shallow in comparison?

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>>74494783

>>74494777
Too bad Cashmore never did anything like that, at least not under that name
>>74494800
I do. Why would it be shallow?

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Talking about industrial, what does /meal/ thinks about my man Steven Stapleton aka Nurse With Wound?

>>74494812
>anything like that again*
sorry

>>74494752
I know rose clouds of holocaust and thunder perfect mind. Time to put this stuff into context. Thanks again.

>>74494812
I mean groups like Arditi, Legionarii, Waffenruhe that maybe double down on the image more than anything and not so much those that blur the line. Maybe that's just me.

>>74494727
what's this crap about? once again respectfully I tell you off yourself with a dull shark hook

>>74494757
>having a "smart"phone

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>>74494832
As much as I love ALL of the big names in industrial and related subgenres, there's no single project I've listened to more extensively than NWW.

>>74494842
Well, I still enjoy the music, but I realise that within that sphere of bands and projects you don't really need more than one or two examples to consider the while style thoroughly explored.

>>74494837
If you know TPM then you might want to add Swastikas For Noddy, though it's closer to the earlier examples I gave you here >>74494528
You know, so as to complete the whole 86-96 golden era

>>74494832
>>74494879
What's the appeal of NWW and purely industrial music in general? I love neofolk but this is something really hard to swallow

>>74494442
But those are developments that didn't start taking off until the 2010s. Like, this isn't the first time it has happened with metal either. Death Metal and Black Metal also started in the mid-late 80s, though didn't really become their own thing until the 90s. It has also been the other big newish development this decade in black metal that isn't post-Paracletus attempts at technical black metal and blackgaze (the latter's Alcest may also count, too as Écailles de lune came out in 2010.)

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>>74490691

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>>74494892
I'm pretty much in the same place, then. I enjoy it but I feel like there's a lot they could do with the genre that no one really does.

>>74495041
Piss off you filthy rotten niggerjew

>>74494958
>What's the appeal
Dude, what's the appeal of any music at all? It clicks with some people, while it does nothing for others. It's not something that you'll suddenly like if it's explained to you.

I've always been attracted to sound as a pure phenomenon and to the idea that any sound is inherently music as long as there's intent behind it (even if that intent only goes as far as recording it and maybe editting it a bit). Industrial music and offshoots owe a lot to dadaism and the collage technique, as well as post-modernist literature and the infamous cut-up technique, which is really just collage as applied to literature, which also makes it a sort of second cousin to Musique Concrète, in which previously recorded sounds are modified and separated from its original intent in order to create a new soundpice. All of this has always appealed to me, and all of this is present in industrial music, so it would be natural that I'd find pleasure in that kind of sound-based art. But it's not something I could coerce someone into liking based merely on explanations as to what the "appeal" is.

I like making "music" myself (whether it's music or not is eternally debatable and it'll always come down to either accepting that everything is music or nothing is) and Steven Sapleton and Philip Jeck are basically my two biggest influences. Just, dreamy, long winded and impressionistic masses of sound collages that come in and out of the picture with the ease of ghosts and ideas.

tl;dr - if you like it you like it and that's the appeal; if you don't like it then explaining it won't make a difference

>>74495041
>he doesn't get ad humour

>>74492989
Why are some listed incorrectly as song - artist?

>>74494958
Well, it kinda depends on what you're listening to in the genre. With most purely industrial music it's appeal is similar to electronic music's in general in terms of interplay between a variety of timbre to develop a certain type of atmosphere. I am not those guys, but I feel that legit industrial and its more direct offshoots (dark ambient, power electronics, etc. not ebm, industrial rock/metal, etc.) do the absolute best job at offering darker/or more surreal atmospheric music created through manipulations of a large variety of timbre that also often tends to have a visceral, abrasive feel to it as well. Some of them have a noise element as well which nets a very dark take on a textural experience as well.

>>74495073
>explaining it won't make a difference
You might be surprised but it truly does.
I've grown into quite a lot of artists purely by listening to people describing what they like in them. An outsider experience can often help understanding art.

>>74495138
>He thinks this is ironic
Lurk moar

>>74495176
Well, hope I helped then.
This >>74495161
>legit industrial [...] [does] the absolute best job at offering darker/or more surreal atmospheric music created through manipulations of a large variety of timbre that also often tends to have a visceral, abrasive feel to it as well.
I also agree with

>>74495195
It literally is ironic because it sets up a Swedish cuck meme but then just does a gay thing instead

>>74495266
No it's not a gay thing
see here
>>136973440

>>74495266
>>>/pol/136973440

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJPkigmZspY

>>74495041
That's finnish though
>>74495195
There are other forms of humour other than irony, and how do you even come to the conclusion that there was irony involved anywhere
>>74495266
That's not what irony means
>>74495327
It's a rented womb for two fag dads you retarded fart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p20w_I-mNyI

THE BEST KIND OF FUCKIN METAL

>>74495571
Made by Swedes for Finns, they're trying to spread their cancer abroad.

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>>74495571
Wrong, here you go

>>74495828
Well they did the whole thing wrong then. They need a new screenwriter and better actors

Also, it's still not a cuck thing. If anything it's a sort of spouse swapping thing.

>>74495854
>trying to excuse cuckodry
Obivously a Swede

>>74495828

>a child who will have two mothers and two fathers

So who's getting cucked here exactly?

yebin is our boy

>>74495899
>trying this hard
what do you want, just say it
>>74495924
whoever buys that shit brand

>>74495947
For you to admit that your country is a disgrace and to stop being so damn arrogant when there is fuck all to be proud of in this current timeline.

>>74495939
you're not wrong

>>74496013
>your country
wrong
>disgrace
to whom?
>arrogant
how?
>fuck all to be proud of
that sounds like your personal issue, friendo

>>74496035
Incorrigible Bigotry!

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this band is gonna blow up so big

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgXS3Sf3So8

>>74496080
death grips is already insanely popular my dude

>>74496035
which country then? You seem to be standing up for them alot
>disgrace to whom?
Europe and it's people
>how are they arrogant?
They think they are above everyone because they are so progressive and tolerant, but the reality is that they're destroying themselves with such degenerate behaviour. It's not a personal issue, it's just embarrassing for the rest of us Europeans.

Does anyone have the pics of when we came up for ideas for a black metal TV show?

Also the one that was basically a fan fiction of second wave Black Metal artists fighting HHH

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNafe8BFlC4

>>74496110
>You seem to be standing up for them alot
Point out where I "stood for them". I literally only pointed out that either the screenplay and/or actors fucked it up or the representative himself misinterpreted the video, and that it doesn't feature cuckoldry. This is factual.
>Europe and it's people
Says who? You? And why?
>They
You accused me of arrogance. I don't care what "they" or "you" think. How was I being arrogant? By correcting you? Forgive me for pointing out your mistakes then.
>they're destroying themselves
This is as vague as arguments get. Nice slippery slope anyway. I mean seesaws are fun as fuck
>degenerate behaviour
opinions
>the rest of us Europeans.
Something tells me most europeans won't consider you to be in some sort of "us" group.

>>74493119
mainly because of me, there were 2 other anons with ok songs and the rest were core/nu posters
didn't turn out that bad though

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>>74496182
Hell yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tatrs-qmxL8

is there any band that sounds like the sludgy bits in war metal?

>>74496251
jesus nigga be more specific

>>74496251
Coffinworm

>>74496271
I'd post a song example but I'm shitposting from the toilet at work

>>74493114
I have a single album in the 24 bit format and it's a DVD rip of Talk Talk - Spirit of eden. It's really more for archival purposes. I imagine a time when nuclear apocalypse has engulfed earth in fiery etc etc. and I will be the one carrying this album into safety without a single lost bit in comparison to whatever the master tape was. You know?!!?

>>74496251
Primitive Man maybe? Like really nasty and hateful but slower.

>>74496283
>I can't pull up a youtube video while shitting at work

>>74496271
I guess he means like the first part of Revenge - Scum Defection

New thread

>>74496380
>>74496380
>>74496380
>>74496380
>>74496380

New thread

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>>74496201
Nice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvgNJXpS6ug

>>74490691
anyone who likes that album is a friend of mine

>>74490785
>liking any deathcore

>>74492104
I thought this was a pasta at first but I totally agree with you.

>>74492773
I thought minewerfer was pretty well known? They have plenty of recordings on yt.

>>74493013
Are you fucking stupid? Mentally ill retards aren't disappearing anytime soon it's just less likely that they get well known in the same sense. Look around you, half of the metal scene is dudes with diva complexes trying to look tough. Shit's funny as fuck desu senpai.

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>>74490691

>>74496667
Guess they just haven't been discussed on /mu/ much then.

>>74492678
Sound of Preserverance by Death

>>74494001
why are you here?