Why did noise rock die?

most of the best bands of the genre came within a small timeframe.
by the time this generation ended the genre already peaked and mostly everything about it was explored.
>sonic youth
>mbv
>tjamc
>big black

and to some extent, ride with going blank again.

>>74465377
>this is his idea of noise rock
Do you ever listen to music that isn't on the /mu/core chart?
This is barely a tiny fraction of what noise rock has to offer, and three of the band you listed aren't noise rock.

>>74465268
It isn't dead, there are plenty of noise rock bands still active.
Brainbombs made an album this year, Health made an album 2 years ago, Unsane has an album in preparation, Oxbow also made an album this year.
And that's not counting all the modern bands, more underground but still there, making noise rock to this day.

>>74465268
S-SAUCE

>>74465268
mr. death grips killed him

>>74466458
Shiritsubo

Too noisy

not noisy enough

>>74465268
Because you started the potential noise rock thread with cropped porn.
Remake it and don't be a retard this time.

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It was perfected before it even started

Did /noiserock/ die? I wonder what shartnigga is up to these days.

>>74466577
What have you done you disgusting faggot!?

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>>74468740

>>74466577
my nigga

>>74468337
>i have listened to less than 5 noise rock albums, please tell me i'm patrician because of my /mu/drone taste

>>74468373
the recent generals have been made by ausfags so they're probably sleeping by now

>>74468740
what exactly is your problem ?

>>74465268
source

Rock as a concept has been totally explored, there is no room for innovation. Go for industrial techno or hip hop if you want cutting edge new developments in noisy music.

>>74468963
aussies on ice never foken sleep oi oi oi

>>74469204
What a prick. Read the fucking thread at least.

>>74469281
get shartnigga in here m8

It's a boring, overrated as fuck genre of rock music. Like, why the fuck would you make music that's tryna be aggressive textural? By making it texture focused, you take away the punchy aggressive aspects of it. Even the overtone focused stuff like mid era Sonic Youth got outdone by more academic totalist artists.

Lazy try hard pretentious indie faggot music.

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>>74469257
That's wrong though. Zs are making pretty innovative music now. So did World's End Girlfriend, and Battles.

>>74469257
>>74465377
Do people seriously believe le innovation meme? If the song is good(or at least enough for normies to eat up) than it will get noticed anyways. The most viewed and play song in the world right now is just generic reggeton.

>>74471111
>free jazz, post-rock, and math rock are completely new genres

>>74465268
This hentai has scat, beware.

>>74471911
Zs are not free jazz.
World's End Girlfriend's Seven Idiots is not post rock.
Battles is not math rock.
Also, creating a new genre doesn't mean you are being innovative, and you can be innovative without creating a new genre.

>>74469358
>implying texture and noise don't make music more aggressive

>>74472306
Zs are not rock at all though. Just because something has a guitar in it doesn't make it rock.

WEG is definitely post-rock.

Battles is definitely math-rock.

None of these bands explore new ideas. Zs sounds no different from what experimental type bands have been doing for at least a decade if not two to three decades by now. WEG has electronic elements in their post-rock and its more drony which has been a genre staple since the mid 90s. Battles, depending on which album you look at, either does the chaotic style math rock which was late 90s or more repetition based math rock based in early 90s.

>>74472507
Texture definitely doesn't. That just makes the music feel more like its in the background than in-your-face. It's also why most black metal isn't as aggressive in feel as death metal despite the blast beats for example. Noise can make things aggressive, but it depends on how its used. If the noise is nothing but sheer texture, even harsh noise, no matter how harsh, will never have that sense of aggression.

>>74469358

>By making it texture focused, you take away the punchy aggressive aspects of it.

You haven't listened to that much noise rock haven't you?

>>74472643
I mean do you even know what noise rock means? Do Cherubs or Jesus Lizard for example sound texture-based to you? In case you didn't know, noise rock doesn't mean rock music with Merzbow slabbed on top.

>>74472604
Zs are rock, and not because they use guitars. Their sound is rooted in rock music with the exception of maybe The Hard.

WEG's Seven Idiots is not post rock. It has nothing to do with post rock except for like one track.

Battles' Gloss Drop is not math rock in the slightest.

Zs and WEG do explore new ideas, maybe Battles not so much though.

Who are good noise rock bands then senpaitachi?

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I guess I'll post the chart for people. My personal favourites here are Consumer Revolt as well as Scratch or Stitch. Have fun.

>>74472733
Both bands have guitars that play textured music, wtf are you on about?

\>>74465268
It's going through a transitional period.

Right now we have good noise punk stuff like Pissed Jeans, Yuppies and The Men. The whole No-Wave Revival and Math Rock thing is kinda dead but all of those ideas were pretty much exhausted anyway.

>>74465377
Those are literally just the top noise rock artists on rym.

>>74469257
I like Industrial Techno and Hip-Hop but that's complete bullshit. There's barely anything new coming out of Hip-Hop. Techno from 2017 sounds exactly like Techno from the 90s but with better dynamics and spooky aesthetics. Just because you like it, it doesn't mean it's innovative.

>>74469358
You have only listened to the top 10 noise rock albums on rym. Go listen to Brainbombs or Melvins and tell me that isn't 'punchy'.

>>74473238
Okay i'm not even sure anymore what do you mean by "textured". I'm just saying that nothing about Cherubs or Jesus Lizard sounds like "it's in the background". They both play really riff-centered music, not texture-centered in the way that MBV or Swans are texture-centered.

>>74473343
Sure it's not as overtone focused as something like MBV or Sonic Youth, but that doesn't mean they aren't playing music whose dominant guitar bits aren't more textural than they are punchy.
>>74473282
>suggests Melvins whose aggressive aspect comes from their punk and metal sounds
>suggesting Brainbombs period
I feel like anyone that actually suggests Brainbombs has never actually listened to aggressive, in-your-face, punchy music in their life.

Also show me some Techno from the 90s that sounds like Actress.

>>74473437
>more textural than they are punchy.

Okay i don't know what bands have you been listening to

Dead rider are a good current noise rock band, they have a album this year i dunno if its out or not, but they have a great unique style, some of the guys from US maple behind it so i guess its is made by old 90s noise rockers, but they are really great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8iOuyqpJgc

>>74473437
>I feel like anyone that actually suggests Brainbombs has never actually listened to aggressive, in-your-face, punchy music in their life.
Brainbombs is certainly aggressive, maybe not in-your-face though.

I don't know man. A lot of noise rock has punk tendencies. What's punchy music to you? For me it's shit like 80s hardcore which a ton of noise rock artists were influenced by.

Sure, noise rock is a lot more texture based but I'd rather listen to Big Black for something in your face than your typical copycat powerviolence, OSDM revival or crossover thrash band.

>>74473569
thanks for the heads up, will probably catch them on tour. here's another current band i'd recommend who released theur debut recently https://superthief.bandcamp.com/

>>74473480
I have listened to every band you have mentioned. They aren't punchy at all compared to more crunchy sounding bands that aren't as texture focused at all.
>>74473616
For me punchy music is like powerviolence, grindcore, etc. A band like Big Black doesn't have an ounce of intensity that those kind of bands have.
>copycats
>revivals
just listen to the originals, bruh. Or listen to a band like Iron Lung who really upped the sludge bits in their powerviolence.

>>74472754
>Their sound is rooted in rock music
How? What makes their sound at all rooted in rock music? Their tracks don't even have actual riffs that even experimental ROCK like Captain Beefheart or Residents do. They instead make sounds more akin to free improv type stuff.

Seven Idiots is like the 90s post-rock stuff. Sorta like radiohead as well whose similar stuff is also post-rock.

Gloss Drop is absolutely math rock. The rhythmically technical aspects attest to that.

That doujin is dank

>>74477170
Zs' sound is rooted in the music of Ruins, which are without a doubt a rock band. Most of their stuff is not improvised anyways.
Find one post rock album that sounds like Seven Idiots, because Seven Idiots has nothing to do with post rock. Radiohead is not post rock either.
Gloss Drop doesn't feature the angular rhythms nor the use of uncommon time signatures like most math rock does. Again, find me any math rock that sounds like Gloss Drop and you will see that you can't because Gloss Drop is not math rock.

>>74478178
>ruins
The Japanese band? But they sound nothing like them.
>Find one post rock album that sounds like Seven Idiots
Most of the early 90s stuff that's just artsy rock music with colorful bits.
>Radiohead is not post rock either.
They definitely have a few albums where they are.
>Gloss Drop doesn't feature the angular rhythms nor the use of uncommon time signatures like most math rock does.
They literally do have angular melodies and uncommon time sigs. Wtf is wrong with you? Are you fucking deaf? This isn't arguable.

>implying Fantasy Empire wasn't great

>>74478253
>The Japanese band? But they sound nothing like them.
They actually do if you listen to their earlier releases.
>Most of the early 90s stuff that's just artsy rock music with colorful bits.
Such as? That description is vague as fuck.
>They definitely have a few albums where they are.
You must be using a pretty unconventional definition of post rock then.
>They literally do have angular melodies and uncommon time sigs.
About as many as The Beatles'

>>74478420
>They actually do if you listen to their earlier releases.
Especially not that considering how wildly different their arrangements are.
>Such as? That description is vague as fuck.
Cul De Sac, hell more of just art rock like Beatles fits here, too other than post-rock.
>You must be using a pretty unconventional definition of post rock then.
>implying Kid A, TKOL, and AMSP don't have massive post-rock influences

>About as many as The Beatles'
Not at all. Beatles barely did it. Gloss Drop had it every track in some way. Damn, if you can't figure this out...I should've known, that the last of the old trips who advocated for muh obscure tastes also, surprisingly, like the rest of them has no clue what he's hearing when listening to music as well.

>>74469257
That's because if you add a new innovative flavor to rock then it's not just rock anymore, it's some weird subgenre. Having said that, there are a ton of rock subgenres that come and go every year.

>>74478585
>Especially not that considering how wildly different their arrangements are
Over time? Yeah, but their early stuff is still rooted in Ruins' music.
>Cul De Sac, hell more of just art rock like Beatles fits here, too other than post-rock.
Cul de Sac sounds nothing like Seven Idiots, wtf are on now?
>implying Kid A, TKOL, and AMSP don't have massive post-rock influences
I will only say that Kid A has not a single post rock influence.
>Not at all. Beatles barely did it.
Yeah, just like Battles. They barely did it.
>like the rest of them has no clue what he's hearing when listening to music as well
Says the guy who implied that Cul de Sac sounds anything like Seven Idiots lol
I'm done with you now.

>>74478629
>Over time? Yeah, but their early stuff is still rooted in Ruins' music.
Not at all, Ruins' early arrangements were based in drum/bass and more sparse than Zs. Also Zs doesn't even complete a rock type arrangement.
>Cul de Sac sounds nothing like Seven Idiots, wtf are on now?
Simple song structures rock with a very colorful arrangement that also sounds like sad boy shit? Like, yeah Cul De Sac had a more minimalist based song structure than a verse chorus one, but it's definitely there down to the slight classical music/electronic influence.
>I will only say that Kid A has not a single post rock influence.
>can't hear the obvious Talk Talk influence
What the fuck?
>Yeah, just like Battles. They barely did it.
Already said its in every track. I don't think you have actually listened to Battles if you think otherwise. Gloss Drop is full of tracks that often start in 4/4 or something close to it then deviate from it. Just about everyone else calls them math rock, and uncommon time sigs is even a tag on RYM while also mentioned in every review on the internet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWcQ2S2-oI0