Who is better and why? Who makes more relevant music now?

>>74343303
Why must they fight.

>>74343303
Why is it important? I don't care which is better as they both make great music.

is this a joke. bjork easily.

>>74343303
Grimes doesn't even have a body of work sizeable to be compared to Björk's yall Grimes fags are giving me a hard tome being so delusional. I mean I like her but don't be so obnoxious ffs.

Björk obviously

The answer is obvious: Björk

>>74343303
The Icelandic goddess wins this one

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Grimes for both

>>74343303
>not creating a strawpoll

http://www.strawpoll.me/13623516
http://www.strawpoll.me/13623516
http://www.strawpoll.me/13623516

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>>74343321
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>>74343563

/mu/ has been redeemed

>>74343303
This isn't even an interesting debate since Bjork wins easily. A much better thread would have been Kate Bush vs Bjork

>>74343617
that's an even stronger loss for grimeth

>>74343617
Now that one would have been though to decide

not really fair to comapre the two given that bjork has been around for two extra decades, but even just comparing geidi, haflaxa, visions, and AA with debut, post, homogenic, and vespertine bjork still wins

I just find Byerk's music much more engaging and it keeps me interested longer

>>74343303
>Who is better?
bjork
>Who makes more relevant music now?
as much as it pains me to say it, grimes

Grimes is much better in every way. Who's with me?
>>74343663
You're overrating Bjork way too much. All her albums are full of filler. Be honest and admit it.

>>74343945
Well every album temds to have follers, but not admitting that half of AA and V are fillers is also ignorant.

>>74343945
name some filler songs on each of those four albums

>>74343964
tends, fillers*

>>74343973
just look at the tracklist desu :^)

>>74343964
>but not admitting that half of AA and V are fillers is also ignorant.
Let's be real, AA and V are incredibly consistent. You could say that only one or two tracks are filler but anything else consists of full-fledged awesome songs. That's why this album is so acclaimed.

>>74344036
>The reason that V and AA are critically acclaimed is because they don't have much filler
>Bjork's first four albums are all as or more critically acclaimed than Grimes' albums
really makes me think

>>74343973
e.g.
Post:
You've Been Flirting Again
I Miss You
Headphones
Cover Me
Enjoy

Homogenic:
All Neon Like
Immature
Pluto
5 Years
Hunter (this song goes nowhere)

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>>74343973
name some songs on those albums that aren't filler

check mate

>>74344069
Bjork is overrated. She's a very good singles artist tho.

>>74344096
all of those songs are good, with an obvious amount of work put into all of them.

>>74344116
Same for Grimes, actually

>>74344109
Post:
Tracks 1-11
Homogenic:
Tracks 1-10

>>74344061
Will you ever forgive me Choaposter-kun? Why can't we be friends?

>>74343755
who is chao?

>>74344299
i'm sold! where do i start with her music?

>Who is better

Why are we even comparing the two. One is a drop of piss in an ocean of greatness

>>74344236
O-ok anon.
But next time people tell you to stop filling threads with her pls do it. I mean, I like Choa and don't mind seeing cute pictures of her but flooding an entire thread is not okay.

>>74344096
>Hunter
I'll fucking beat you.

>>74344385
Perhaps mu is not the correct site for you to try to give her recognition. People here are just very mean, myself included. I said some really nasty things to you. ;_;

>>74344385
i've just listened to a few of their songs
the music is fun and catchy, the videos are fun and choa is a qt but she has a fucking horrible singing voice, it makes me want to rip my ears off

>>74344096
What the fuck?
I miss you and Hunter even had music videos
You have shit taste

>>74344622
she's up there with the worst singers ive ever heard, she should probably just do porn instead, she'd be much better suited to it, shes probably had more practice getting gang fucked than she has singing

>>74343755
>>74344061
>>74344236
>>74344299
>>74344385
>>74344622
i always think this guy is kind of funny and appreciate his jokes then realise that he might be being serious in which case he's probably diagnosed autistic then i feel kinda bad

i can never work out if it's just a meme or not

>>74343303
Bjork
>weird
>cute
>good music
>art focused

Grimes
>narcissistic
>dog ugly
>mediocre music
>tumblr feminist

This isn't even close

>>74344757
>none of that garbage you said is true
it wouldnt surprise me if it was though, shes obviously slut and im pretty sure she likes getting blacked

>>74344622
>basic looking Asian bitch
>in a generic manufactured kpop group
>not even in the group anymore
>likely lip synced all her live "performances"
>has probably never played an instrument in her life
>probably wrote between 0-5% of her lyrics
>probably creating 0% of the dance routines

This is an objectively awful waifu choice, no wonder you feel to need to shill this slanty thot in every thread

>>74344880
What a fucking sado.

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>>74344880
how does it feel knowing that this guy has plastered her face with his hot asian cum?

>>74344988
>they aren't even close
that's not gonna stop her fucking him, remember who we're talking about here

>>74344988
Hey choa is great and i love you anon :^)

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Can you anons point me in the right direction of where to start when it comes to Bjork? Never listened to her before and I'm curious.

>>74345124
All of her albums in chronological order

>>74345114
i'm just trying to help you anon, i want you to see that you're idolising someone who only got to where she is by fucking her way to the top

although i must comend you on your collection of choa pictures, they've moslty been pretty relevant to what you're saying

>>74345124
>>74345155
but start with debut

>>74345240
didnt you see her sex tape?

>>74345240
What would you say to Choa if you met her?

>>74345281
actually anon ive had sex with her

>>74345380
i'm sure she wouldn't like lying, but she sure as hell liked me blowing my load deep into her tight little asshole

>>74344470
Come to me, bro.

>>74344117
You just like them. Compared with her best songs they're subpar. The difference between her highs and lows is too big.
>>74344329
>One is a drop of piss in an ocean of greatness
Of course that's you.

>>74345638
>me and choa haven't done anything to you
that's not true, she tried to slip a finger into my ass while she was deepthroating me

>>74345638
>me and choa
It's "Choa and I" you fucking retard
Unless you think you're more important than Choa now

>>74345684
I have heard she loves fingering bumholes... especially pooey ones.

>>74345619
>compared to her best songs they're less good
wow holy shit what a revelation
>the difference between her highs and lows is too big
incorrect, all of those albums are incredibly consistent. You just don't like them
>somehow both of those things mean that they're filler

I have been away from this board for months and people are STILL posting these fucking stupid Grimes or Bjork threads holy SHIT does this place ever talk about anything new

>>74344655
>I miss you and Hunter even had music videos
So what? Does that mean they're not fillers?

>>74344733
Bullshit opinion.

>>74345792
Yes, since a filler song is a song with no effort put into it to pad the runtime of the album. If a song has a music video, then effort obviously went into making it a good/marketable song. Face it, all of Bjorks first albums are 8/10s or above.

>>74343600
>fake poll!
now that I think about it, now that the general shills are gone, this is realistically more what the opinion her Grimes is

>>74345789
>she only knows singing and the guitar
well that's a lie because she can't do either of those things

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>>74344096
just because you don't like those songs or just because you like Grimes doesnt mean those songs are filler

>>74345846
>it's bait to believe an incredibly popular opinion on the board
Is this advanced bait?

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>>74345782
They're the most popular female artists on /mu/, autist. You could come back in 5 years and they will still be the most popular female artists here.

>>74343596
Switch björk and grimes and you got it.

>>74345873
nice outdated poll

>>74345810
They're full of fillers. If she would have make her albums full of Hyperballad-level songs then you would have a point.

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>>74345114
>ban evasion
can K-pop be banned now? at least Grimes fags could talj about music occasionally after autistic waifu fagging

>>74345873
Okay champ, but does that warrant making the same fucking threads every day about them? Not in the slightest. And if it's really the case that new people are coming in and making these threads every time or lurkers are starting out their posting with this shit, then something has desperately got to change.

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>>74345824
Plebs voting for the mainstream pleb artist Bjork and not the patrician DIY artist Grimes. Nothing surprising. This disgusting board has no taste.

>>74345926
It's all you dumbass. Post a screencap of >>74345909

>>74345899
>his only argument is returning to his original point
Sad!

>>74345871
>being this sheep
>relying on the opinions of a board full of plebs
>not thinking for himself

>>74345885
No way. Bjork is far more accessible aka for the plebs. She sold millions of albums and singles. Meanwhile Grimes is for connoiseurs aka patricians.

>>74345965
>if you have an opinion that others hold then you must've gotten that opinion from them
Post a screencap of your music library please

>>74345919
People discuss what they want, you can stop that. BTW you could hide/filter these threads if you dislike them so much. Just don't be a sperg about people posting what they want.

>>74345934
I'm glad no one agrees with your shitty opinion

>>74345994
patrician doesn't mean obscure, if that was true then every shitty bandcamp bedroom project is the height of music. Patrician legitimately just means "music I like"

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>>74346045
You're glad because plebs like you refuse the evidence? Pfffffffffffffft.

>>74346269
what evidence

>>74346061
>Patrician legitimately just means "music I like"
Even Nickelback? Patrician means noble, great music but fairly obscure. Only the connoisseurs have any idea about such music.
Anyone knows about Bjork but few have any idea about Grimes. Both artists are critically acclaimed, so the separating fact is popularity: Bjork is for plebs (much bigger audienece), Grimes is for patricians (smaller audience of connoisseurs).

>>74346338
This evidence >>74346354

Holy shit grimesfags BTFO.
Damage control activated.

>>74346354
That's not what patrician means, from the beginning of it's usage on /mu/ it's always meant "music I like listening to". Also Grimes is pretty popular.

>>74347225
BTFO? Where, you stupid fuck?

>>74347274
>on /mu/ it's always meant "music I like listening to"
Seriously? Then why people here are calling each others plebs?

>>74343303
Stop with the forced fighting shit.

>>74347225
it's literally only one person doing damage control. he's an embarrassment to all Grimes fags. says the same shit every thread

>>74347985
And yes, I might add that Bjork is better.

>>74347728
lol the whole thread
stay mad grimesfag

>>74343600
>41 votes bjork. 3 votes Grimes

WTF? I love /mu/ now

>>74348021
Wrong opinion.
>>74348124
Just a silly poll. Of course the plebs will vote for the pleb option: Bjork.

>>74346354
Patrician surely is just based on quality not obscurity. Obscurity should not factor into whether you like something or not. Maybe it's more trendy on here to like something that's not well known but that shouldn't factor in to how much you like something. If it does you are a drone who cares too much about their image.
Also, why are you so adamant in convincing people grimes is better? Why can't you accept that they're both great and people should just like what they like? Why are you such a fucking dickhead?

>>74347748
Because they listen to music that they don't like. It's not rocket science.

>>74348035
>lol the whole thread
Why do you write like a dumbass?

>>74348818
:^)

>>74348815
>Patrician surely is just based on quality not obscurity.
Hold on a second: isn't quality a subjective thing? How could you pretend something subjective is patrician, beyond any doubt?

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>>74345873
>you could come back in 5 years and they will still be the most popular female artists here.

not true. people are finally starting to realize that grimes is trash and her music is only being pushed here by three or four obsessive fanatics.

>>74349343
>people
Wrong. Your pathetic delusion is absolutely ridiculous. Just around 10 clueless haters (including you) believe that Grimes is "promoted" by 3 or 4 fanatics. FYI Grimes has 1 million followers on Facebook and her video Genesis has over 45 million views. She's kinda popular and you can be sure there are many fans of her even on this god forgotten board. Feel free to reject the truth.

>>74343303
Grimes isn't fit to breath the same air as Bjork's.

I listened to a track by Grimes last night, again, to see if I could see one shred of talent or cohesive artistry. Shadout Mapes. Jesus Christ. Grimesfags are utterly delusional. She's shit hiding behind a shroud of bullshit progressivism and lazy experimentalism.

>>74349656
Lmao! You listened to one of her most patrician songs, dip. I'm not surprised that you couldn't even handle that difficult song. Listen up pleb: stick to the more accessible Bjork. Grimes is too advanced for you.

>>74349752
tfw sometimes grimesfags claim her music is inaccessible and patrician
tfw other times grimesfags claim her music isn't for hipsters because it's too poppy

which one is it, cucks?

>>74349839
It's both. Some of her music is accessible (e.g. Realiti) some of it is not accessible (e.g. Shadout Mapes). My advice is just to give her music a fair chance before judging it.

>>74349556
>Genesis has over 45 million views
genesis was a pretty popular pop song though, i literally know people who like that song but dont know who grimes is

>>74349948
ive just listened to shadout mapes for the first time because of this thread, i liked it but i wouldnt really call it inaccessible

>>74350409
It depends on your listening background. If you're already accustomed to that kind of music, that song is not inaccessible.
BTW what about her song Hallways?

>>74350458
>what about her song Hallways
i'll check it out now, i havent listened to much grimes desu

>>74343303
Grimes will never collab with Death Grips.

Stop forcing Grimes is the new bjork meme

>>74350458
>>74350535
reasonably standard sounding spacey instrumental, the main thing that could make it 'inaccessible' is the way she's played with her vocals, i can see how it would be offputting to normies but all things considered i dont think its that out there

>>74350655
And finally: Omega.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_hFrJ-FM2o

>>74350559
At least mashups exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgshhTHxSNc
I don't like DG but this mashup is cool. Only Grimes could elevate their music.

>>74349556
yeah, those are the masses, the plebeians if you will, that like Grimes :^)

>>74350802
probably the least accessible of the 3 imo, can't see it sitting along side more straightforward pop songs in the way i could with the other two
i feel like in a lot of her songs she chooses one token 'weird' element to try and keep it interesting and on this one she's just used more than one

>>74350970
The plebs don't even know who she is... Nobody could like something they don't know about.

>>74351154
that's not ture, grimes fans claim to like music even though they clearly know nothing about it

>>74351101
IMO her least accessible track is this extended experimental live jam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhNxvoXOKcI
I've never heard something like that before.

>>74351190
>grimes fans claim to like music even though they clearly know nothing about it
How could you be so sure? Are you a judge of music? Be sure that Grimes fans know a lot about music.

>>74351233
>Grimes fans know a lot about music
that can't be true, otherwise they wouldn't be fans of grimes xD

>>74351251
Silly argument. Her musique is so eclectic and exciting. In order to like her gorgeous music you have to be familiar with many music genres. That's why you see people liking one of her albums (e.g. Halfaxa) but disliking another one (e.g. the poppier Art Angels). To like all her albums you must be familiar with synthpop, dreampop, a bit of country, ambient, J-pop, classical, alternative rock, new age, IDM and even industrial.

>>74351154
>The plebs don't even know who she is
Actually, she has a million followers on facebook and her video Genesis has over 45 million views. Plenty of plebs know who she is and enjoy her pleb level music.

>>74351352
actually, in order to like all her albums you must be familiar with the desire to self harm, because the only reason to listen to her is as a form of self abuse

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>>74351154
compare the numbers of rating on these albums...

i think a lot of people know who grimes is

>>74351519
Grimes more popular than Taylor Swoft confirmed.

>>74349948
So she's a sellout?

>>74351377
A million followers is very little compared to the multi million followers of someone like Beyonce. Grimes is on a sweet spot: not too obscure (irrelevant) and not too known (over-exposed). So, combined with the fact her music is awesome it results that she's patrician.
BTW Bjork has 3x more followers than Grimes. You could say she's definitely more for plebs.

>>74351390
You're trying too hard. You just need 3 things: a soul, a desire to connect with gorgeous music and some knowledge in various genres. This all you need.

>>74351715
Not the guy you were replying to, but this obscurity argument is getting really retarded now. This is about who is a better musician, not who is more obscure. Judge them musically.

>>74351709
No. She's juggling with both pop and experimental. She's the boss.

>>74351519
False. The RYM nerds simply don't care about Taylor enough to rate her albums. RYM is an anomaly anyway.
>>74351757
Who's a better is a subjective thing.
>Judge them musically.
Judge them as you wish but nothing you will say will be wrong or right. It will be a mere opinion.

>>74351806
>Who's a better is a subjective thing.
Then why is this discussion even a thing? How can someone, according to you, have a wrong opinion on this?

>>74351838
This discussion is a waste of time, plain and simple. To kill time.

Hello grimes do you like our website?

>>74351390

>>74352432
kinda. its too sexist and dumb for my taste.

>>74349556
>FYI Grimes has 1 million followers on Facebook and her video Genesis has over 45 million views
that doesn't change the fact that it's just 3 or 4 psychopaths who spam her here

>>74353629
Proof or GTFO.

>>74349210
You don't, you moron. Patrician and pleb are subjective terms.

>>74351806
>RYM is an anomaly
Not in terms of the music fanatics who use the Internet, it's probably their biggest gathering point in all honesty. In terms of the people that matter in music consumption, Grimes is well-known.

>>74353970
anyone can determine this simply by looking at the language that the grimesfags use. see >>74353851
for example. it's glaringly obvious that that poster is one of the handful of regular spammers because he sounds like a developmentally stunted 12-year-old

>>74354048
Your post is retarded and it makes no sense.

i literally only know who grimes is because of this website. haven't listened to one of her songs. literally no one i know has ever mentioned her in person or online or anything.

>>74354076
>t. doesn't have an argument
you could try calling me a douche nozzle

>>74354119
Hey douche nozzle, you suck.

>>74354048
>mad retard because he was btfo by the feared grimesarmy

>>74343303
Bjork is still more relevant now. Grimes, sincerely, just touches a little part of the music industry in comparison to Bjork.

>>74354093
>literally no one i know has ever mentioned her in person or online or anything.
Because they're all plebs. Find better friends. It's not like she's really obscure: she featured multiple times on all major music publications. Even P4K picked Oblivion as the song of 2012. Do you read music press?

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>>74354178
>the feared grimesarmy

>>74354178
>mad retard because he was identified as one of the 3 members of "the feared grimesarmy"

>>74354192
>Bjork is still more relevant now.
Relevant to her aging fanbase perhaps. She doesn't have good songs anymore, so no one really cares about her. She transformed into a nostalgia act. People actually want to hear live the same old hits like Hyperballad, Joga and Human Behaviour.

>>74354249
Identified, my ass. You're mad because your retarded posts were btfo. Also you're a sick psycho bastard who tell people to kill themselves >>74353624
Aren't you ashamed of yourself, you fat pig?

>>74354210
>Because they're all plebs.
ok

>Find better friends.
no

>Even P4K picked Oblivion as the song of 2012.
wow i really care oh wait no i don't haha

>Do you read music press?
no

>>74354295
>You're mad because your retarded posts were btfo
please show me what you're talking about

>Also you're a sick psycho bastard who tell people to kill themselves
that wasn't me. i don't agree with encouraging suicide. i'd rather tell you to go to a psychiatrist

>>74354210
>reads Pitchfork
>calls others plebs
No wonder you have such an entry-level p4kcore taste, like Grimes.

>>74345873
>You could come back in 5 years and they will still be the most popular female artists here.

In five years Grimes will be behind even Annie Clark after people stop buying into her gimmick. Hopefully Kate Bush will take a larger lead than she has now.

>>74354210
>P4k picked Oblivion as the song of 2012
Bwahahah holy fuck how can anyone read that shit and still claim to have good taste?

>>74354359
You wish. Grimes in on her way to make her own Homogenic: >>74332876
Just imagine if that album will be great like her previous releases. You better bet she will be even more popular than she is right now.

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post yfw Grimes claims that she's going to release an album with unexplored landscapes and then drops the poppiest album yet

>>74354412
>>74354337
>pretending to hate p4k while secretly checking their lists/reviews/etc.
Stop pretending. The whole extended /mu/core is based on P4K's opinions. Best examples: MPP and MBDTF. How do you feel knowing you're a mere cog in the /mu/ system?

>>74354581
>implying I like /mu/'s taste as a whole, or got the /mu/core albums I like because of /mu/
>implying I check Pitchfork
wew

>>74354562
Grimes could deliver her promise like usual and make an album with unexplored landscapes. BTW she announced that the followup to Visions will be poppier and more aggressive, and she actually delivered that. And she said that in February 2012 right after she released Visions!
>I think my music is becoming a lot more aggressive. I’m going more in that direction. This [Be a Body] was the second-to-last song I wrote on the album, and it also was one of the only songs on the album that I didn’t write in a single day. I think that’s a good thing, to not just make something and let it go.
http://www.electronicbeats.net/the-visions-the-voice-an-interview-with-grimes/

>>74354641
Oh, you're a special snowflake who pretend to not check P4K. And you claim to be a music fan...
You're still a pleb. Forever.

>>74354686
Where did she say that the album would be poppier? If she said more aggressive I would expect a less poppy album.

>>74354710
>if you don't take your opinions from one of the most poptimist websites then you're just a special snowflake
>implying people who use pitchfork are more fans of music
>implying that caring about other people's opinions isn't the most pleb thing of all

>>74354714
Be a Body is one of the poppiest songs on Visions and she referenced it. She also said in other interviews about the poppier direction. I can't find them right now.
Anyway, she said that her next album will be more aggressive and AA was aggressive. Maybe too aggressive for a pop album.

>>74354796
>implying that caring about other people's opinions isn't the most pleb thing of all
Then why are you even here if not for opinions? Are you dumb? What is the purpose of your activity on this music board?

>>74354905
To talk about music. I don't let other people's opinions affect mine probably would've been a better way to put it.

>>74354934
>I don't let other people's opinions affect mine
Then your conversations are useless. What's the point of discussing music in your case? You don't gain anything and you don't lose anything except time.

BJORK IS BETTER
GRIMES MAKES MORE RELEVANT MUSIC
BUT I MIGHT BE BIASED BECAUSE I"M 29

>>74354963
>talking with other people about music = getting your opinions from them
You really are stupid, aren't you? I can have an enjoyable talk with someone about music, and maybe even change my opinion, but I would be changing my opinion because they made a compelling argument, not just because they had that opinion.

>>74354994
We're all biased.
>>74355025
Then why do you waste your time discussing music if you don't want to absorb any other opinions at all?
>but I would be changing my opinion because they made a compelling argument, not just because they had that opinion.
>moving the goalposts

>>74343303
>>74343596

I want to have sex with Grimes

>>74355155
>moving the goalposts
Explain. I explained how I still discuss music here without blindly taking my opinions from other people.