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/Prod/ - Production General

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Post snippets using clyp.it
give recs etc

NO SOUNDCLOUDS, YOU WILL BE EXECUTED
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/mu/ /Production/ Resources:


All-round Info:

Mixing and Mastering;
Mixing Secrets for the Small Studio:
https://mega.nz/#!dNtARY5Q!bfm7xOeRcRilrs3qkP-DAFUUKBW4DEcGQ_IR_PWkYo0
Mixing Engineers Handbook:
https://mega.nz/#!YUkgCJpR!bTX1gzqhD7fozTipk4XsRNiWQmHQXBx0T4pHMRvaURw
The Secret of the Mastering Engineer, Bob Katz
https://mega.nz/#!ZAE2EBCb!r0Hf0gho8pL7BlBJ6-6rJznB9SEhCG31NzNJUJX34tU

Audio Engineering and Acoustics ebook bundle
https://mega.nz/#!wEVAVbgB!hwd7vmzaZ9C6wAnVbqIQt37pNUpfpn0t2ecSjZGRNe4
(Bobby Owsinski - The Mixing Engineer's handbook 4th edition, The Recording Engineer's handbook 4th edition, The Mastering Engineer's handbook 4th edition. Timothy Dittmar - Audio Engineering 101, William Moylan - The Art of Recording, F. Alton Everest - Master Handbook of Acoustics, Rod Gervais - Home Recording Studio: Built It Like The Pros, 2nd Edition, Philip Newell - Recording Studio Design

Theory and Composition:
Music theory for musicians and normal people:
http://tobyrush.com/theorypages/index.html
tl:dr Music Theory:
https://gumroad.com/l/tldrmusic

Synthesizers and synthesis:
http://www48.zippyshare.com/v/20999348/file.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atvtBE6t48M [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMF8F9z7Zr8 [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
http://beausievers.com/synth/synthbasics/
http://www.analogindustries.com/b1764/

Free VSTs:
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/free-vst-plugins/
http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2014/12/29/free-vst-plugins-2014/
Other VSTs:
http://pastebin.com/cCA5in17
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tfw /prod/ is dead
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>>74315708
tru :(

where 2 find lively online community of producers?
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opinions?

https://clyp.it/su2nq5am
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>>74315731
where 2 find prod frenz irl
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https://clyp.it/zwpqqhyu

hows this sounding?
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what does /prod/ think of this ghouse song?

https://clyp.it/ajloelvj
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>>74315811
it's barely music, except for the ending when you start to get something going ...

i really don't know who would even listen to this

at LEAST add a chord progression or something because it just sounds like random emotionless noises
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Compressor before Reverb or after?
My FX chain (within the plugin, not necessarily on the channel itself) has always been compressor > eq > reverb
But now after switching stuff around, reverb > compressor > eq honestly sounds better to me, especially for pads and leads, it really flattens it out in a pleasing way without sounding over-compressed or anything and the EQ on top keeps the reverb in check

I dunno, the game done changed for me now.
How do you guys organize your fx chains, specifically for synths?
I thought I was ordering it the "industry standard" way, could have sworn I read it should usually be ordered this way in some Sound On Sound article, but yeah I just dunno
I mean, yeah if it sounds better this new way go with it, but I just wanna make sure I'm not glossing over any phase issues or something that may not have even occurred to me.
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how do you mix sounds with juicy low end with the sub bass? In rap in particular. I have these nice thick key chords, but their clashing with the 808.
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>>74315731
>>74315762
The discord, but I'm not sharing.
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>>74315652
That's not a richard picture you fucked up
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>>74315756
Production-wise, this sounds good. On a musical note, the second chord in the progression sounds a little off to my ears. It works well enough until the lead comes in, and then after that it just never feels like it fits. For some reason my ears want the second bass/lead note to be an F instead of an F#.
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is there anything good here or should I trash it lads?

https://clyp.it/xmif1wpo
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>>74316038
im in it's pretty shit desu
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>>74316062
hmm yea i don't really know my scales or music theory so i usually just fuck around with notes until feels right. ill change it to an F.

on an somewhat related note ... is there ever a time when i can just say fuck scales and just play notes based on emotion rather than intellectual music knowledge? don't they do that in jazz to an extent?
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>>74315905
There aren't any rules do what sounds good to you

But I do eq>comp>hpf/lpf
I rarely apply reverb or delays directly to the chain, and instead send to return channels so they wet signal can be processed independent from the dry signal. My returns FX chain typically goes Reverb or delay>LPF>comp (sometimes)>eq (sometimes)

Then apply slight comp on the Stereo bus to glue it together
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Hey I was the guy in the last thread who is getting into modular and shit. Here's a hopefully better version of what I posted there, which you'll probably like better if you're into Gesaffelstein
https://clyp.it/a0vd4j3v
Any thoughts/suggestions?
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I'm trying to recreate the old TLC & Destiny's Child production sound. Specifically She'kspere's stuff.

Thoughts?

https://clyp.it/3u3m0h53
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>>74316464
Goddammit, I accidentally had my arp set an octave too high. Here's a less physically painful version https://clyp.it/vkhfqo1e
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Im working on mixing this and adding final touchs to the arrangement
kind of falls apart at 3:45 (havent gotten there yet, plus i reckon it needs an extra synth)

Would appreciate any feedback

https://clyp.it/tx2m0l3h
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>>74316671
specially not buying the drum game change at 1:00, too many kicks? slightly off placement?
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>>74316038
Such a liar it's shit lmao

>>74315905
There's no "always" it completely depends on what sound you're going for. The "standard" is eq >comp> reverb (if you really need he insert as opposed to a return)

If I need a really controlled reverb it's usually in parallel to eq and possibly sidechained compression- otherwise everything goes into a send or it's *subtle* just for a bit of depth as opposed to an effect.

>>74316267
Everything you do ever can be "analyzed" in theory- stop being a lazy faggot and learn it. There's a shit load of noodling in jazz but the soloists actually keep track of modulation and purposefully hit notes dissonant to the chord he band is playing.

Improvisation/"emotional" intimuition is a result of internalizing theory and knowing how to play what you want without thinking about it
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got the soundtoys 5 bundle yesterday and its dank as fuck buy it if you can and if you cant just pirate it
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https://clyp.it/fvhvvhjd
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christ FL studio is confusing as a beginner
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>>74317559
Here's a neat tip: if you want to get better, start by only using 3xOsc and Sytrus. Learn those in and out before fucking around with other vsts because they teach you how to actually make a sound
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>>74317559
read the manual when you need help with how shit works you just press f1
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>>74315756
>https://clyp.it/su2nq5am
i like the campy feel

nice pacing, something i struggle with
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>>74316100
tried working off the same modular patch, no software tracks in this one tho
https://clyp.it/gd04oe3x

>>74316564
>>74316464
this is really good anon
wish my evening on my modular was going as smoothly as yours lol

>>74315852
i like this. definitely has a ghetto house vibe
maybe add some 909 toms or similar between the kicks at some point to give it some pulse
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>>74317204
>The "standard" is eq >comp> reverb
doesn't that just negate the effect of the EQ if you compress afterwards?
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>>74318350
post a picture of your gear!
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>>74318402
I think it depends on the compressor mode and settings, but i might be wrong
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>>74317371
>https://clyp.it/fvhvvhjd
This is dope af
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>>74318350
Thanks a lot dude. Trust me, this has not been a smooth process at all. I've basically been screaming while moving dials around for 12 hours, according to my roommate
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>>74318350
>ghetto house
fyi the vocals are sampled from a Mase song.

glad you liked the concept. ill probably brush it up and mix it.
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>>74318402
not that anon but it depends
eq before comp can clean up the signal, preventing certain frequencies from triggering the compressor unexpectedly. such as a growling bass frequency when you only care about the highs getting compressed.
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>>74317251
>tfw can't afford to buy it and can't afford to pirate it either because of hard drive space.
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Can I get some feedback please?


https://clyp.it/sg11u4gh
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>>74320179
Me likey. Could do with some sub. Also the kick is oddly slightly panned to the left.
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>>74320332
Yeah you right, I think I've been tinkering too long with the mix and I panned them way too far left.

No bass in there yet that's why no sub.
What did you listen on?
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>>74320576
Krks and some m40xs. Sounded good.
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Pastiche of the Nova Theme

https://clyp.it/f4fpnoth

What think?
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>>74315762
University / College
Take a music production paper. You'll probably learn a few things along the way and get to play with some very nice equipment.
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https://clyp.it/rrfwwezl

acid banger, r8 h8 rel8

>>74320179
All those percs sound weird and very quiet. The beat is also very sparse compared to the busy synthwork.
Nice work on the synths senpai, those arps and pads are amazing. Just fix the beat and it'll be alright.

>>74317371
nigga use that damn limiter
10/10 tho
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>>74322242
>All those percs sound weird...

Thanks for the feedback my man, do you have any suggestions on the drums?
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>>74317857
thanks

i used to have this problem too but then i went from using 4 bar loops to 8 and it just went away, worth a try
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>>74318402
No, but as the other guy said it can prevent certain frequencies from triggering the compressor. The thought behind this is "well why would I compress what I'm just going to take out"

Personally I eq after fairly often because I set the compressor to tone the sound and don't want any eq changes interacting with it- depends on what you're doing. If you're doing a "standard" method to control dynamics, try compessing first.
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Best way to mic a melodica?
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>Take signal
>Duplicate it into two new signal chains
>On one you put a low-pass filter
>On the other you put something that flips the polarity
>You sum the singals
What do you get?

You should get a highpassed version of what you started with, right?
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>>74323153
Pretty much, thought I'm guessing there's gonna be some weird phase interactions depending on how the filter is made. Probably gonna be highpassed with some slight combing.
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>>74323279
Yes, the filter has zero latency.

For some reason though, it doesn't cancel out the high frequency properly, and it just does a weird shelf type thing.

What could be the cause of this?
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>>74323312
>>74323153

i don't think filters are perfect the way you think they are bro
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>>74323153
>>74323312
... and on top of that there's no practical use of these questions you tend to ask
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Best way to loop a sample of a held out pad? I'm using logic and I can't seem to find any zero crossings so the sample pops whenever it loops again.
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>>74323801
adjust fades in and out
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>>74323739
>>74323752
Ableton calculates the latency and shows it to you, and the one I'm using (Fabfilter Pro Q2) has a zero-latency mode, which shows latency as zero.
If I use Ableton's default EQ and use the 12dB per octave slope I get no problems and the signals cancel properly, but if I switch to the 48dB one I get the problem.

I know filters don't work by actually lowering the volume of individual frequencies, but instead use some phase tricks, but that's irrelevant.

>there's no practical use of these questions you tend to ask
Actualy it does, because I'm making racks to split frequency and also sum perfectly at the end (multiband compressor and EQ3 don't), so I'm using a series of phase inversions to get the different bands.
I'll draw it for you if you want.

>you tend to ask
?
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https://clyp.it/jc4cckxi

I have a terrible pacing problem.
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>>74324250
>(multiband compressor and EQ3 don't)
Multiband comp does work with what you are trying to do. That is inherently what a multiband does.
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>>74324339
The "don't" clearly refers to the "sum perfectly at the end" part.
Meaning it splits the spectrum into bands, but when you sum them back together, the sound isn't the same as what you started with, which means it didn't split them perfectly.

Using phase cancellation does.
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how to get bass this insane?

https://youtu.be/WHJE2IHJ2cw
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>>74324412
idk then...I've never had issues with it using multiband that way.

Phase cancellation like that would only work with linear slopes, so that's why the 4 pole didn't work
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>>74324554
>linear slopes
What do you mean?

Also, I don't know how but I made it work.
I'm mapping the parameters to the macros right now.
Do you have Fabfilter Pro-Q 2?
If not, tell me what EQs you have and I'll make you a rack with one of them.
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>>74316491
needs a dope bass line. would love a bounced version of this I could use in future samples and projects if you're interested in sharing this.
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>>74317371
>https://clyp.it/sg11u4gh

christ m8. I know distortion is "in" these days with the new hip hop thats being shitted out, and you've got a marketable sound here for that genre but like anon said throw a limiter on please lol. Or just turn down the saturation or whatever you have going on there, it's too much. maybe throw your bass and vocals into this distortion chain but ever so slightly. Most people pulling this genre off arnt blasting the whole track with that kinda compression. Good shit though, fix the distortion and throw that shit to adam22's live podcast and 1000's of young tweens will hear it live and you'll get a good following from that.
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>>74324554
>>74324601
I have to go AFK now so here it is anyway:
http://www90.zippyshare.com/v/aPzrYbcR/file.html

If you don't have ProQ2 just put whatever zero-latency filter/eq you have in the right places and set them to llowpass where it should lowpass and highpass where it should highpass.

To see if it sums perfectly to zero you can put the splitter rack inside another rack, then create a new chain parallel to it inside the new rack, and flip the polarity of that one. It should sum to complete silence.

I also added a little delay thing (for sounds shorter than 300ms) to show the bands in sequence one at the time (a spectrogram like Sonogram SG1 or iZotope Insight is best) but you can deactivate it with the macro.
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>>74324412
>>74324339
if you're trying to process bands separately why does it matter that the dry signals would sum perfectly at the end lol
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How do you guys start the mixing process and how do you get through it?
For me, I set my kick and snare to get -10db, and the overall drum kit midi to around -6db. Then I work from there.
I usually like to have my bass around -12db.
>newfag
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>>74325685
yeah none of that matters.... working from the drums is a good strategy though

volume eq reverb in that order for
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Have any of you bought sample packs? Any recommended companies? There are so many out there. Mainly looking for techno stuff
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Hi /prod/. I need a little help with the song i'm making. I use need a good drum loop to fit this sample i've been working on. If anyone can help let me know and i'll shoot you an e-mail and we can collab.

https://clyp.it/oybkmgu4


Much thanks.
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>>74326143
yeah that needs more work beyond just drums

>>74325937
/r/drumkits is all i've ever used.... i'm curious too tho

>>74324523
distorted 808 sample played really low lol

>>74324281
well that same synth playing the entire time isn't helping to break up the monotony

>>74322131
it sounds like a good recreation, there's not much to think of it
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are there any mix benefits to using chorus on certain tracks?

I've never had a point in my song where i thought "oh, this track just needs some chorus and it will do what i want it to do" and i feel like i'm missing out on something regarding that.
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>>74319190
it's 80mb or so, mate
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>>74326510
for widening a mono source, for example
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>>74322547
Not that anon but they sound fine. Its likely just his feel for it.
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Thoughts on this /prod/?

https://clyp.it/user/kqxwhm1p
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>>74325615
Because I may not process all of them, so the remaining ones have to be untouched.
And if you analyze the signal with a pure wave you can see that it fucks up your phase (like an allpass filter), which, depending on the sound, can be imperceptible or can totally ruin it.

And even if those imperfections were imperceptible, why keep having them change your sound when you can have perfection with no downsides?

My method even gives you more control, and if you use ProQ2 you can set the cutoff at a specific note instead of a random frequency.

The only downside is having to think a little for the forst time, so I guess if you're a brainlet it might be a problem.
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>>74326575
Really? The download I found was around 500MB
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>>74326143
Keep at it but i dont think people are gonna be leaping at the oppurtunity to collab with you just yet.
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>>74326769
>>74326769
>And even if those imperfections were imperceptible, why keep having them change your sound when you can have perfection with no downsides?

... because it's imperceptible

idc that you want to be perfect about it, i just can't imagine needing to be this specific for processing a particular band. mb compression is already a thing, and if i wanted to add an effect on a particular range of frequencies i would just add it in parallel rather than trying to substitute and over think the phase issues

>>74326692
it's a profile
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>>74326692
>>74327056
Grrr thx

https://clyp.it/i0vix3pz
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>>74327134
first minute's too long, can't hear the bass

sounds like a preset and a beat. keep at it
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>>74324729
Pretty much all of the drums and sounds I'm using were custom made with layering and eqing, or sampling from ridiculously obscure stuff. Really took me a long, long time so not really sure I wanna share them. But if I ever do, I'll post them in a /prod/ thread.

Also have a few early 90's MJ snares and Cheiron ones.
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I made this song where I play guitar chords with three of the same note, create chords like this with three different notes and place one of these chords in either ear and one in the middle. Do you enjoy it? Also, do you tend to enjoy krautrock? Because I think it's somewhat od an acquired taste, so if you don't like the best of it this will probably not do it for you.


https://clyp.it/aawxw5hb
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>>74326575
its like 1.15 gb for the whole bundle
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>>74327056
>... because it's imperceptible
But it's not, like I explained in the rest of my post, which you conveniently ignored.
I guess you're not yet at the point where you care about the phase relationship of the parts in the mix.

>idc that you want to be perfect about it, i just can't imagine needing to be this specific for processing a particular band. mb compression is already a thing, and if i wanted to add an effect on a particular range of frequencies i would just add it in parallel rather than trying to substitute and over think the phase issues
Just because you have no use for it it doesn't mean nobody else does either.
I, for example, use things like that constantly in my sound design.

Saying "why do you need that lol" about a superior version of something, with more features, zero downsides, that also uses less processing power (since you can use simple autofilters instead of multiband compressors) and yields better results, just because you need to create something that requires a tiny bit of thought the first time you make the preset, is simply stupid.

>over think
Is it really that much of a problem for you to think a little in order to get better at what you do?
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>>74327504
you don't need to get all defensive and splurg out i'm literally just asking what kind of stuff you do with that man lol
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>>74327504
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>>74327618
whoa hey man that's mean i just want to know his sounds ._.

... but i laughed
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>>74327581
Maybe it's because I'm not a native speaker but I don't see you asking me that in your posts.
I just see "it's useless to me so it's useless to everybody".
To answer your question, I use it for sound design (applying non-mixing "creative" effects, layering, and generally for any change I want to make on some frequencies but not on others) and for mixing (super useful for managing the stereo spread at different ranges to keep the low end mono and the high end wide, or to apply different amounts of whatever, for example a reverb, to different frequencies).

>>74327618
>Putting effort and taking your work seriously is fedora
I guess this is 4chan after all. So stupid of me to expect diligence and professionalism.
Do you go on in depth tutorials and call the instructors fedora as well?
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>>74327858
>super useful for managing the stereo spread

ooooookay i had my doubts that maybe i was being the ignorant one but nvm you're a noob. that should take like 5 seconds. as for layering that's not how i would do it but whatever works for you. i go additive or actually create something new for that layer
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>>74327858
>So stupid of me to expect diligence and professionalism.


come on guys, the rest of us need to step it up. /prod/ is clearly not dead
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Fill me in on guitar, /prod/. Everytime I look up some stuff it's mostly "just slam an SM57 in front of it, do some compression and saturation and you're done" but all my guitars always sound like shit. Anything else that can be done to just have a good sounding basic guitar sounds, like overdubs or something else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzr7PtasKS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC5jRlj8pFE
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>>74327858
ITT argumentative guy response argumentatively
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>>74328010
>Anything else that can be done to just have a good sounding basic guitar sounds, like overdubs or something else?


no get your guitar tone right from the start. if it doesn't sound good with just a 57 in front of it your tone sucks or your playing sucks.

set the tone listening at ear level rather than in the room and ask yourself if it's appropriate for the song
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>>74328020
i hope it's not that hispanic kid who's been posting the same song for months...

for his sake ;__;
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>>74327417
I like it, nice and fuzzy.
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I don't know where I'm going with this, but anyways:

https://clyp.it/yk5zaou3
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>>74328010
I always use EQ. Other than that idk. Getting a good clean guitar is harder than a distorted one. Try placing the microphone in different places. Also lower mic gain and turn up amp volume. Sometimes does the trick for me when I'm stuck. These are noob tricks btw.
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>>74327938
>as for layering that's not how i would do it but whatever works for you. i go additive or actually create something new for that layer
You shouldn't have one go-to way of doing things. Each case will be different.
Especially with audio samples like vocals or instrental lines, I may duplicate it and work on the individual bands to make a rich sound to put under the original sample.
Or I can create three versions of a sound and only take one band from each one so each band contains a slightly different version of the sound (which I may even layer with a non-filtered 4th version).
The possibilities of frequency splitting are infinite, and we shouldn't even be discussing it since the discussion was "why use phase inversion to split frequencies when you can use the mb compressor?" and you moved the goalpost to "why use frequency splitting?" (which is asinine).

Also I like how you always only respond to one nitpicked part of my post and ignore all the other arguments like I hadn't even said them.

You clearly aren't interested in doing things with effort and you can't argue properly, so I don't see the point in spending time arguing.
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>>74327975
?

>>74328098
Lmao nope
I'm Italian
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>>74328456
i'm not having a debate with you or getting all fussy over semantics with you lol

everything you're talking about doing isn't hard or complicated at all to accomplish- your being so intrigued by frequency splitting is indicative of how "complicated" you actually are with sound design.

i hope it's just the language barrier but you sound like you're a teenager who thinks they're getting advanced or something. the fedora comparison didn't seem far off
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what are you whiny cunts on about now?
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>>74328632
You talk with superiority while having the reading comprehension and memory retention of a third grader (in what I assume is your native language), as demonstrated by the fact that I specifically said it's not difficult at all and that it's complicated for you (which DOESN'T mean it's complicated in general. Just for you).

>semantics
Lol no.
None of the points we've talked about were about semantics or different ways we call the same things.
It was all me explaining thoroughly a concept to you (with plenty of examples) and you ignoring them, strawmanning, and moving goalposts.

First you indirectly call it useless and can't think of ways it can be used, then you talk about it like you know all about it and it's nothing for you lmao.

>intrigued
How stupid can you be?
How am I obsessing over it?
I'm talking about it because it's the whole point of the discussion, and I'm explaining to you why it's good.
Maybe I should've just responded with a one-liner to be more in line with your way of thinking (since you seem to believe that doing something well and/or with effort means overthinking it and obsessing over it).

>how "complicated" you actually are with sound design.
Because me going in semi-depth on a concept when we're discussing the reasons to use it means it's all I can do, right?
If anything the fact that I had to explain them to you is a clear indicator of your subpar abilities, which obviously don't even go up to elementary concepts like frequency splitting and phase inversion lmao.

Please stop making a fool of yourself.
I may be pedantic and argumentative I'll give you that, but you keep acting like a child. Being corrected and instead of accepting the lesson you keep feigning superiority when you clearly have nothing to act superior about.
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>>74328506
sei un fagotto
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>>74328632
>>74329345
Character limit reached.
Cont...
In fact, it's clear that you are not only incompetent in music production, but you are also quite stupid (in the general way we consider someone of low intellect) and have an ego that prevents you from accepting your mistakes and have a normal conversation, and I'd rather spend my time doing sometjing other than waste it with you, so from now on I'm just going to ignore you.
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>>74329351
It's "finocchio".
Fagotto is a musical instrument, and also is the thing homeless people in old movies used to carry things in, made of some fabric tied at the end of a stick to hold on their shoulder.
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>>74327975
What did he mean by this?
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>>74329448
>>74329421
>>74329366
>>74329345

bro... .. . ,,,
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>>74324250
>I'm making racks to split frequency and also sum perfectly at the end (multiband compressor and EQ3 don't)

multiband dynamics works just fine
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>>74329602
Group that rack you just made, create a new chain in that, then invert it.

If you hear anything other that complete silence (-inf dB) then it doesn't sum perfectly and it's better to use phase inversion for the reasons written in the thread.
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>>74327182
Its meant to be a sub cause the melody is only slightly above the bass. Yea i realise the composition is very bland atm, ill endeavour to make it more interesting. Cheers
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>>74329789
... okay
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>>74330265
/thread
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>>74330265
>>74330557
AHAHaHsHahAHA BTFO

>>74329789
Faggot confirmed
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sad thread
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https://clyp.it/r0jwfuhc

Am I retarded?
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>>74330265
I don't believe you.
Upload the rack.
It doesn't sum to silence in mine.
Also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqma83HBsnY

And even if it summed to silence, EQs are still better for all the control you have over the parameters, instead of jst the frequency of the MD compressor.
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>>74331160
okay this guys has to be trolling, look at that gain staging

you have no fucking clue what you're doing
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>>74329789
>it's better to use phase inversion for the reasons written in the thread.

At the risk of pissing off everyone who has already sat through the paragraph festival above - even if you got the phase inversion method you described working as you want it to (ie: summing a low-passed signal with a polarity-flipped, full-frequency duplicate to achieve a high-pass) wouldn't the result not still be the product of using a filter anyway?

It strikes me that if you got this working as you predicted, your high-passed result would have the mirror image cutoff slope of the original low-passed signal, so you'd be no further down the road precision-wise than if you'd just used a high-pass in the first place.
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>>74331217
?
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>>74331088
>https://clyp.it/r0jwfuhc
no, you should be thankful you can use a daw
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>>74331248
>At the risk of pissing off everyone who has already sat through the paragraph festival above


no it looks like everybody is in agreement that this guy is an idiot
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>>74331160
>I don't believe you.
No, I am correct. You are just retarded.
Your utility is in the wrong location kek
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>>74331341
>Your utility is in the wrong location kek
>him right now
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>tell myself i'll produce today
>watch countless videos on music theory and mixing
>produce nothing
>tell myself i'll try tomorrow
>repeat

I want to kms lads
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>>74331248
The point is that the end result is like using a HPF with a LPF together, except they sum perfectly so the only difference is in the changes I make to the bands.

If I was only using one of those bands, then you'd be right. A simple filter would be better.
But I'm using more than one (usually all three), so using simple filters wouldn't cut it.

I posted my rack earlier. You can ry it if yu want:
http://www90.zippyshare.com/v/aPzrYbcR/file.html

>>74331296
>I have no arguments because he proved them all wrong
>Maybe if I call him an idiot I'll have a chance of looking less stupid.

>>74331341
Bulshit.
It makes no difference.
Even putting it in the empty chain instead gives the same result.

Upload it and let me see it in my DAW, and I'll concede that I was wrong.

Or maybe you mean something else?
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>>74331401
how about you go at least try and get off 4chan you lazy fucker

>>74331403
who hurt you
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>>74331401
>instead of producing you can always kill yourself

This thought keeps me going.
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>>74331403
jfc anon just give it up already, even if you're purposefully acting like a retard because you think it's funny there's fucking red on all your meters, you're too obvious now- stop posting this dumb shit
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>>74331445
maybe he wants clipping
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>>74331403
Fuck, the "Or maybe you mean something else?" was meant to be posted after the link.
My bad.

>>74331421
y-you.

>>74331445
1/10
Just fucking upload it already and I swear I'll stop.
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>>74331403
put a utility on each High, Mid, and Low chain; then concede
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>>74331445
Why would I care about a new project I opened to test this?
Why would I spend time with something so useless as doing gain staging where it doesn't need to?

You realize it's an empty project with just Serum and the rack, right?

>>74331498
Exactly what I did.
If I'm doing it wrong and you want me to believe you, JUST. UPLOAD. IT.
And I'll concede.
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god damnit do we need to start a new thread because of this fucking guy -_____-
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>>74331580
Yeah, how dare he be right?
Fucking piece of shit should let us believe wrong things and never have any meaningful discussion!
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>>74331401
you are putting to much pressure on yourself, just chill, if you arent in the mood you are in the mood

maybe instead of telling yourself you will produce, try spending a few minutes to put together startup template or special midi mapping. For me, making the 'act of sitting down to produce' more streamline make its more inviting more me to actually produce. having to setup midi tracks, crawl thru sample libraries, and tons of the same vsts every time can be daunting. If all of that is setup already it might make it easier for you to jump in.
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>>74331614
Retard
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>>74331614
you're him aren't you lol
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>>74331403
>But I'm using more than one (usually all three), so using simple filters wouldn't cut it.

That was my point - I get that you're going to want more than one band as a result, but your way of doing it (even if indirectly) still uses a filter anyway, so you're always at the mercy of whoever developed your filter. You still don't have total control.

And if you can argue that you trust the filter you're using, then why not just use it directly?
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>>74331662
im pretty sure both of them are a single person
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>>74331676
>not programming your own filters
its like you don't even like music
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>>74331544
I already started up another project sorry

But i promise you can get it to work, just double check everything. Make sure your multiband looks like mine (compressors off, appropriate freq range solo)
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>>74331724

i stack 64 different sine waves at the exact harmonics for each saw wave i need for my synth leads to get exact control of my waveform as well. i think you're joking but i've found filters to be easily the most fulfilling thing to make yourself, though i wouldn't expect the rest of these posters who have been insulting me to care that much about detail in their sound design.
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>>74331662
Yes obviously.
Next time I'll put a /s at the end so you'll know I was being sarcastic.
/s

>>74331676
>That was my point - I get that you're going to want more than one band as a result, but your way of doing it (even if indirectly) still uses a filter anyway, so you're always at the mercy of whoever developed your filter. You still don't have total control.
I never believed or said I had total control over every single detail of everything.
I just have control over the parameters (or controls, knobs, whatever) of the filter, as opposed to using a MBC where you can't control anything.
With the rack I've uploaded earlier I can control frequency, resonance, and slope.
If I don't like how a filter sounds, I can always use a different one.

>And if you can argue that you trust the filter you're using, then why not just use it directly?
Because just using a filter doesn't allow me to split bands accurately.
There will always be some inconsistency in volume (either a bit too loud or too quiet) at the crossover point.
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>>74331777
I was wondering if there's a way to do that easily.
You could stack sines and AB with a rreal saw while tuning each one to get the right frequency.
But the volume of each sine?
I'm shit at math, so how do I get a list of values to set the amplitude of each sine at?
Like the first one is at 0 dB, the second one is at -N dB, the third at -N.N dB, etc.
Where do I get that list of values?
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>>74331882
... you're not the frequency splitting guy are you?
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>>74331907
Kek
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>>74331935
there was actually a guy who i tried to help asking that a few threads ago. i thought maybe he was programming a synth instead of something impractical like i just satirized.

meh it's probably the same guy
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>>74331805
>Because just using a filter doesn't allow me to split bands accurately.
>There will always be some inconsistency in volume (either a bit too loud or too quiet) at the crossover point.

How are you adjusting the crossover points in your rack then? Not on Ableton 9 so I can't look at uploaded projects but it would be useful to see how you're doing that without adjusting the crossover/cutoff points on the filters you use in the phase-invert/summing operations.
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>>74331965
I actually ask because I had a whole song with tons of pitch and volume automations but the project got corrupted and all I have is the subbass and a couple of other stems (because I had sent them to a friend in an email), so I wanted to try and recreate the bass from the sub, and the only way I can think of of making it a saw again is to duplicate it and pitch each copy to its equivalent in the saw series, but I don't know how to set the volume.
I tried just distorting it but it becomes squared and I don't like it. I'd rather have a saw.

It's mustly just for fun, but I also want to recover the bassline.
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>>74332029
In the multiband compressor the crossover points are already integrated (meaning you only ove the low/mid and mid/high crossovers, and not the individual filters), and in the phase inversion there are no crossovers because the top and bottom band are respectively a HPF and a LPF, while the middle band is an inverted dry signal that's being phased with two signals that are the same as the high and low band.
In other words, high and low are just filtered, while the middle is just the opposite of those two.
My English isn't perfect so maybe I'm explaining in a confusing way.
I'll make a rack with Ableton's EQ and make you a few screenshots.
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>>74332057
YOU'RE NOT SERIOUS I'M NOT REPLYING TO ANYMORE JOKE POSTS YOU FUCKING RUINED THIS THREAD /PROD/ IS KILL AND I CAUGHT YOUR AUTISM
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>>74332155
I swear it's not a joke.

Is there another way to make a saw wave from a sine that's obvious but I don't know it?
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>>74332057
>>74332195
why wouldn't you just replace it with a saw and sound it out
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>>74332233
What do you mean?
I have an audio file of the sine.
How do I replace it with a saw while mantaining the pitch movement?

What does sound it out mean?
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>>74332273
i can't believe i fell for it again

okay no more responding this time for realzies
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>>74331401
>actually start to make something
>it's fucking trash
>learn a few tricks and apply them
>proud
>show producer friend
>"This doesn't even sound like it's supposed to be part of the song, anon, what are you doing"
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>>74332472
that's not a real friend
everyone has bad days, proof in my clypits above kek

keep honing the blade
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>>74332124
Here it is. Sorry for the delay.
http://www47.zippyshare.com/v/JXlJpqOS/file.html
This doesn't use third party plugins, so if you have Live 9.6 or superior it should work with no problem.

Pic related should be clear enough.
I hope I didn't fuck up the copypasting lol

In the old one I put a different delay on each band so if you played a short sound the band would play one at a time.
Feel free to try it here with a spectrogram like Insight (this one >>74330265) as well to see the difference between each band.

I'll be away for 20/30 minutes, so if you have any question or insult, I'll respond as soon as I come back.
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>>74332964

Thanks for the upload, I've grabbed it anyway although I'm still on 8.2.2 at home - I'll find a 9.6+ machine to test during the weekend probably.
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anyone here owns a MV 8800?

I'm trying to move away from working on Ableton and to do it all in the box. I have a few synths and external FXs

1) Can it replace most of Ableton?
2) how are the internal fx?
3) user friendly y/n?
4) hows the sample management?

thanks
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im doing some mixing for someone and i need some inspo.

he's got this soft/light vocal, indie vibe. some acoustic some electric guitar basic stuff and i need some inspo for which producers to listen to while i work on his stuff.

i thought john congleton would be a good choice but his work is too scattered and i still dont like how baroness' yellow and green sounds.

anyone else's work or any albums in particular i should check out? i feel like the shins might be similar but im not familiar with this genre enough, still gonna check em out though.
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>>74333253
NP man.
I'll probably be here on a /prod/ general, so if there's something wrong or something you want to know just ask for me and I'll do what I can.
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>tfw actually considering quitting my job in 2 months to lock myself in my room making music and painting until i can support myself as a mix engineer/jack of all trades
>tfw self doubt sets in and i start comparing myself to people who have produced much more work than me
>tfw ill have no safety net and will have to take some shit warehouse job if i cant make it work
>tfw i turn 30 in october

fuck guys. im gonna do it, but fuck.
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>>74316671
anybody?
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>>74331965
i think i remember it, you responded with a logarithmic math function?

have you ever programmed a synth?
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>>74333935
dont quit the job to do it you probably wont make and need to have something to fall back on
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>>74333377
Elliot smith obvs

>>74333935
Same except I'm 8 years and -$ behind you

Follow your dreams man

>>74334005
That was just a guess, I wasn't really sure.

I thought most people used that one program now- I'm not knowledgeable about any of that. I'd start on reaktor
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>>74334147
yeah or max, but im insterested in it for the fun of tackling those "how-do-i-do-this" moments, not expecting it to be or sound better than the real shit
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Tried out a new thing for recording kick drums today. I put a cheap contact mic on the inside, on the beater side to pick up the beater smack. Really picked the smack up well, it almost sounds like a sample. Mixing that with a regular bass drum mic should work well; gonna start incorporating the contact mic when I track drums


>>74333935
Intern at a recording studio
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does anyone have the Yellow Noise Drum Extract plug-in for Mac willing to upload it for free?
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>>74335302
i saw a semi interesting "lofi" drum recording video on reddit yesterday

the contact mic sounded like shit but it was an idea at least

the more usable ideas being stuffing a toy mic on top of a dynamic for reverb and putting a mic in a minifridge next to the kit.
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>>74335554
Did they use the contact mic just for beater sound or as a general kick mic? Cause yeah they definitely don't have enough bass to be used as the only kick mic
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>>74335668
room (next to it on the floor on top of something idr)

shit idea ofc but slightly interesting
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>>74333935
unless you live in California you won't make it
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I've made a few other racks.
You can download them here:
http://www52.zippyshare.com/v/swNsY1CN/file.html
http://www52.zippyshare.com/v/8UbtVFSu/file.html
If one archive doesn't work, try the other. The content is the same (pic related).

They split the frequency spectrum into two, three, four, or five bands, and sum perfectly at the end.
Other details in the README.txt inside.

Also, since you guys love me so much, I've decided to start tripfagging so you can now enjoy my presence a lot better.
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>>74337388
Oh, I almost forgot...
The password to open the archives is:
>ByUsingThisPasswordIAcceptThatAnonWasRightAboutFrequencySplitting
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https://clyp.it/vcne4t30

Advice on the mix would be great. Thx.
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>>74337139
this has never been outright true (small, local labels) and is even less true now (the internet)
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>>74325937
Niche Audio makes some good packs that arent over bloated with gay premade loops.

>>74325685
>apply mono to master
>turn all the track levels to 0
>slowly add in all the key parts (drum, bass, vox, lead) till they sound good
>add secondary stuff till it sounds good
>use eq to chip away at everything till it sounds as good as possible
>compress everything till it sounds as good as possible
>turn off mono
>fuck with panning and fx till it sounds as good as possible
>eq and compress your sends
>try to keep master from going over -6db
>you now have something ready to export for mastering phase

>>74326510
i use it when my vocals sound flat

>>74331401
it happens... eventually inspiration will hit and it will just happen.
i like to keep my daw open on one display while im watching tutorials on another display so if i find a neat technique i can pause the video and try it myself.

>>74333285
>move away from working on Ableton and to do it all in the box
what is the main advantage of doing that?

>>74333935
its possible but very unlikely that you are going to be able to generate 100% of your income from royalties after 2 months of sperging.
>>
Heres two generic lo fi hip-esque tracks, im rather new to any kind of mastering so any general tips to get a better overall sound or maybe just overlooked things because of my inexperience would be great.

https://clyp.it/5rh5idb1

https://clyp.it/gcv2xvsk
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>>74315652
anyways here's wonderwall
https://clyp.it/dhsixorh
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Can anyone explain to me if this song has straight sub as bass for certain parts or if they tweak them with some extra stuff?
https://youtu.be/7mMRxkzxlwE
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>>74338216
Im listening on my phone atm so cant give hearty feedback but i liked campfires
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>>74333935
>2 months
>not even focusing on one specific skill
you're not gonna get to the level of being able to support yourself

"I LOCKED MYSELF IN MY ROOM FOR 2 MONTHS" is not a resume
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>>74337769
I never got that bounce at -6dB meme
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The production on this album is amazing.
https://youtu.be/Z-yJBIMmknU

Can anyone suggest something similar?
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>>74315811

the bass bleeds everywhere. just learn to mix better.
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>>74315756

i think your stab (or even high frequency in genereal) is too bright, anything else rocks.
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any good place to torrent good drum samples?
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>>74337729

you could try to stretch the "bay-hay" sample a little longer because for me it sounds too fast. maybe try to send reverb a little to the piano and drum.
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>>74337139

>pic related

>>74337769

no as in, im working and tucking my money away for two more months to hone my skills for as long as it takes in order TO start generating income

>>74340674

mix engineering is the goal.
my plan at first is to clean up all these rappers shitty mix tapes in my area (dallas so theres a lot) and any remote mixing projects i can score over the internet. (any other places like fiverr i could check out?)
>>
Anyone know of a good video tutorial for Ableton Live?
>>
>check out an instrument
>there is a richard devine preset pack
every time
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>>74341706
>using presets
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>tfw just found out you can output constant cv values from the nord modular headphone output
this gon be gud
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>>74340164
bit of distortion maybe but sounds pretty clean to me
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>>74316009
either make room eq wise or pan the low end of the chords out so they don't clash in the center with the sub
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>>74342451
Oh yeah that's what i thought was happening. Will also try to give a sub a big distortion and eq out the associated tones that get brought up, once i get to my pc that is
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/prod/ why aren't you producing RIGHT NOW?
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>>74343941
Cause no one replied to my track so I don't know what to do now.
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>>74343941
Friday night, going out on the piss innit

Studio day tomorrow
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>>74343941
I'm trying to find a way to phase-invert audio in real life.
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>>74343941
i am but im shit
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>>74343941
i am trying to make my own fm drums using abletons operator. feels quite stupid, but im a bit obsessed with autechre
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>>74343941
Because I've had no inspiration since I haven't seen my gf in 2 weeks.
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>>74343941
because i'm working my 'real' job right now
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https://clyp.it/zeymbapz

First beat I've ever made, not a complete song, would appreciate some advice on making it better as well as how to proceed with the rest of it. I'm considering getting into producing just for fun but am not sure how much to invest in it initially. I used LMMS for this and have no midi keyboards or amps or any producing equipment really. I'm just using audio technica m50x's so haven't even listened to it on any speakers yet. If I want to take this hobby farther what would you recommend I first invest in? Studio moniters? An actual DAW? A midi keyboard? A sound card? I have literally no idea where to begin.
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>>74341543

Reid Stefan and point blank is pretty good for starters
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>>74340795
It's purely to make sure you're not clipping. It doesn't matter

>>74343941
Just woke up

>>74344336
I know operator *can* sound good with some work but it takes too long imo. Try fm8 if you can
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>>74344835
Start producing and pirate everything. Eventually you'll get good enough and needs will surface. Then you'll have a clearer idea on what to invest on. For now focus on learning production basics such as synthesis, mixing, what compression does and all that stuff, and also some theory so you can figure out where to take your track when you're stuck like now.
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>>74331088
that intro it too long for what it is
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>>74345616
Waiting until I'm better for needs to arise sounds good I just don't wan't to accidentally dump money into something that won't help me as much as something else might if that makes any sense. Thanks a lot for that advice.
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>>74344835
i would buy monitors and pirate a daw
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>>74343956
which ones yours
>>
I need recommendations for microphones and their setups. I have an SM57 and a Scarlett 2i2, but either one of those, the XLR cable, or my outlet is giving me insane background hum for any reasonable gain level. My budget is around $500, if someone could even just tell me whatever setup works for them that'd be awesome.
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>>74346895
>giving me insane background hum for any reasonable gain level

i'll go ahead and save you the time of entertaining anybody trying to help you troubleshoot- it's just the 2i2. i've had this setup before and it's fucking awful. the 57 pairs really, really shittily with it.

just replace it with an id14 or id22. i think you can get the 22 for 500 and change used, maybe less if you're lucky. those both are reputable and shouldn't give you problems.
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>>74346153
https://clyp.it/mt00tfni
I didn't post it itt tho. It's one of the first tracks I ever made but I worked on it a lot last week. It repeats after two minutes.
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>>74347079
I got a SM58 and 2i2 and haven't had any problems with it. What's so bad about it?
I agree that the 2i2 is not the best stuff out there but I don't get background hum or any noticeable issues with it.
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>>74347555
what are you recording tho

i don't have issues recording an acoustic guitar or a cranked amp for example (though neither are particularly desirable)

di anything, or the do from my amp for example are dark/muffled, or noisey as shit. The lack of headroom is another issue.
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>>74348045
Mostly voice and electric guitar. I plan on getting a better interface eventually but for it's price I've got no complaints.
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>>74348208
desu i'm just salty as fuck that i believed /r/watmm and the hordes of people for convincing me that it's perfectly fine to use and that buying something expensive is a waste of time. I don't trust anybody when it comes to gear and mixing unless i'm sure as shit they know what they're talking about now lol
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>>74348300
>trusting reddit ever
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>>74348337
ignoring the fresh off of /b/ attitude- there's a higher concentration of knowledgeable people on (making) music. it's still the blind leading the blind overall ofc
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>>74348371
i just think a lot of the people there are shills
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>>74348416
forgot to mention that too

there are shills here as well but it's less obvious. a lot of people are trying to promote their own articles and videos. the echochamber lends itself to stuff like apple shilling (pretty sure they own focusrite)
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how do you decide what type of music to make?
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>>74348490
You do what you like. If you're a neuro guy you'll wanna learn how to make reese basses, if your main thing is metal, you'll wanna get a guitar, know about good mics, and if you like rap/trap you'll wanna have a download link for free drums.
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>>74348490
are you serious
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What's the best way to "extract" vocals from a studio song?
Or basically cancel out the instruments.
I assume that methods involving an instrumental version and an actual release of the song yield better results than any other method.

What software should I be using?
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>>74348731
invert phase of one and the instrumental cancels out, very easy if you have access to both. it's utility in ableton. idk what the other daws use but there should be something there
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please talk me out of buying modular gear
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>>74348045
>>74347079
>typical gearslutz user
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>>74349220
>expensive
>time consuming
>frustrating
>confusing
>often sounds like shit
>disconnects you from your social life
>you will start to think the patch complexity is better than the sound itself
>anytime you create something good you'll get lost in it and never hit the record button
>you will never stop buying modules
>you will become elitist
>everyone will hate you

totally worth it tho
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>>74349476
>not wanting to use the cheapest shit makes you a gearslut

lol

>>74349220
you probably make shitty patches with regular synths and can make cooler shit with vsts anyway :^)
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>>74348731
Yeah, phase cancellation is usually the best course of action.

Although it depends on the kind of vocals, the kind of instrumental, and what you want to do with it.

If you want to extract the entire vocal track to make a "conventional" remix or sampling, you either need a mastered instrumental version, or hope it's a repetitive enough song that you can take vocal-less pieces from here and there and splice them together to make an instrumental from the release version.
In my experience it's pretty rare to find those, so your mileage may vary.
You can also try to extract it by messing with the release version so it cancels out well, but it's pretty complicated and time consuming, and often yields disappointing results.

Another program you can try using is iZotope RX, but unless the song is very sparse, youre probably not going to get good results.

If you just need the vocals for some light sampling (i.e. to make adlibs, backing sounds here and there, a single phrase to use once, etc) you can do it the hip-hop way and find the parts with the least instruments playing with the vocals (or with instruments that take different frequencies) and sample those, then EQ out the unwanted instruments.
If you're lucky theremaining frequencies that you can't remove will be unnoticeable in the mix, but you can still reduce this problem by sampling similar-sounding parts (to those you can still hear with the vocals) from the released version and sprinkle them around your track, so even if you still hear them they will sound as part of the track.

Usually though, you're better off just trying to Google the already isolated vocal track (if you're lucky you might even find the studio stem), and if you don't find it, maybe try to look for acapellas that are similar or can replace it somehow.
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>>74350403
>tl;dr exactly what the first response said or google for isolated vocals

thanks faggot
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Are usb interfaces noisier than interfaces with a thunderbolt or other type of connection? I've got a lot of shitty digital noise from my interface (lexicon lambda), and don't know if it's because of the usb connection, it's age (5+ years), or if the pre amps have started shitting out.

I've been trying to troubleshoot all the noise problems with my gear and I'm not sure what to do. This shit is so frustrating, I want to record, but I don't want my tracks to sound bad and noisey. Also, are surge protectors capable of producing noise?
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>>74350709
Except mine went a bit more in depth and had specific advice on how to do it, which is very useful for someone who's just starting out (and he likely is, since he was asking that question).
Plus other techniques and tips (like the "light sampling" paragraph or iZotope RX).

Nice bait anyway, but with me it's too easy, since I respond anyway.
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https://clyp.it/t2drpptl

hey guys i'm really new to production, finishing is the hardest part... can you judge this for me? Also, if the song is too loud out of the box, but I didn't adjust the volume in FL12, should I just be rolling back the vol. right at the beginning of a project? Or am I doing something wrong?
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>>74350709
if op linked to last thread i would show you why not to respond to that guy but you already gave him reason to get all worked up again
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>>74350729
i had one a lexicon interface and had the same problem tons of shitty noise i got rid of it and got a new one that isnt lexicon
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>>74350878
What interface do you have now, senpai? Did that fix your problem?
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>>74350818
mebe use somethine other than a fuggin default fl studio snare next time friggin hegg m8
cud also use a supporting brassy synth with long underlying notes
the volume seems ok i dunno what ur talking about guy
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>>74350877
It's the same thread. Just go up.

What's even funnier is that you can go see all the past threads and 90% of the long posts (either arguments/discussions or advice) is me lmao.
Within the last month (and periodically throughout the past few years) almost every time something like books, software, or whatever was uploaded, it was me.

Let's face it. Without my sperging these threads would each get archived at <30 posts (also because I keep bumping them when they go to page 9/10).

I'm a necessary evil.
I'm not the poster /prod/ deserves, but the poster /prod/ needs.
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>>74350965
i have a steinberg interface now and it doesnt do the noise

i think the lexicon was defective when i bought it because it always did the noise
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>play chords
>sound like shit
>watching some vid on chords
>guy plays the same exact chords more or less as I did but they sound good
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>>74351214
What do you mean they sound like shit?
What exactly is bad about them?
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>>74351084
i just pulled out the 909 but i understand
and good to know about the volume, I won't overthink it

And yeah I want another element to bridge everything... I want the main synth to get more and more lush as the song continues, french electro style, always rising
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>>74350729
I also have had shit experience with lexicon. Just get a better interface
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>>74341292

deeznuts.com
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looking for a good resource to DL acapella versions of songs for sampling &^]
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>>74351859
kek
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someone give me a creepy movie dialog to sample
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>>74352352

There are some good lines from Anthony Hopkins in Silence Of The Lambs, a lot of them have soundtrack music in the background though so you'd need to work around that.
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>>74351185
>>74351674
I think I'll probably get a thunderbolt interface. Is this zoom interface worth it or are zoom interfaces just meh? Am I better off just getting a usb 3 interface from a reputable interface company?
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>>74352570
the connection does not matter, the quality does
motu, rme, audient, antelope, apogee, uad
these are the ones you want to look at if you want a worthwhile bump in quality
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>>74352753
>motu, rme, audient, antelope, apogee, uad

my 200$ interface is just as good as any of those i garuntee it
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>>74352963
sure, you're fine then
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>>74349220
Max/MSP or Reaktor are more powerful. Modulars are for autists who can't computer.
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What's a good audio interface to get? I'm looking for something with 4 inputs, but I only really would like 1 pre-amp or even none. Everything I find is expensive because of all the pre-amps which I don't need.
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>>74349220
how much do you want to drop on it? if you don't want to drop like at least 1.5k it's probaly not worth it.
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>>74353849
>with 4 inputs, but I only really would like 1 pre-amp
>????

do you want an interface or just conversion lol
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>>74353910
Well, I don't really know all that much about music production as I want to get into it. I just want something I can plug a synth or two into and maybe a microphone sometimes.
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>>74353849
Steinberg UR44 is decent. It's like $250 or $300.
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>>74353849
Check out the Motu ultralite series
6 ins, 2 with pres, also nice latency free routing/submixing for all outputs individually so you can use it standalone without the computer it you just want to jam on the synths, it's basically a fully featured standalone mixer
>>
https://clyp.it/jxkuwck2
Any opinions? (Not finished yet)
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>>74354016
I've been mainly looking at Steinberg, but I think the UR242 would be more of my thing. I saw that their previous model looks fairly similar in specs, should I just try to find one of those second hand?

>>74354083
I think that might be a little bit out of my budget, sorry. I'm a complete beginner, so I don't want to just spend all of my money on gear initially.
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>>74354265
>I think the UR242 would be more of my thing.
yeah probably that would be fine

> I saw that their previous model looks fairly similar in specs, should I just try to find one of those second hand?
I dunno
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>>74353936
an "interface" is basically all in one solution. you want preamps in them. they bring your signal up and then through conversion (analogue to digital (a/d) and vice versa) to get sound in and out. that's it.

>>74354090
just sounds like you're dicking around. delay sound is defs cool though.
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>>74354314
Acutally, I might have just been confusing myself with Behringer interfaces.

>>74354323
Wouldn't I want to use line inputs to bypass the preamps on anything that isn't a microphone?
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>>74354403
>Wouldn't I want to use line inputs to bypass the preamps on anything that isn't a microphone?
You don't have to bypass them necessarily but they're not needed. Generally they double as mic or line level inputs.
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>>74354403
WELL you need them for the mic
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how do i do this muted effect at the beginning of the song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-tjrM9qugQ
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https://clyp.it/pm5pxh4u

this took me 20 minutes. If you cannot produce quickly and easily, then this isn't for you
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Is there a way to get Ableton to realize the song I'm working on has multiple time signatures? (several measures of 4/4 followed by half as many measures of 3/4 in this case)
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i made this song over a year ago but it was my first project i ever completed and i didnt know /prod/ existed at the time.

should i rework the song now that i have a better idea of what im doing or should i leave it be?


https://clyp.it/ewuy413t
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>>74354597
what about this took 20 minutes? finding your samples? it sounds like shit
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>>74354601
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/arrangement-view/#time-signature-changes :^)
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>>74354682
it's like he didn't even try to find the answer
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>>74354663
I bet you take 3 hours to sound design an uninspired hardstyle kick you absolute bafoon
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>>74354597
sounds like any producer rap song someone would make in 20 minutes
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>>74354723
>fishing for flattery and then reacting this way when criticized
grow the fuck up
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>>74354723
i'm glad you get inspired by sticking a drum beat over somebodys song??? i'm sorry you're no j dilla???

get over yourself m8
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>>74354723
how long have you been making beats for?
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>>74354723
>not taking 3 decades to design the perfect kick
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>>74354800
>no clyp
>>74354860
>no clyp
>>74354885
>no clyp

yet all talking some spineless shit! Impeccable!
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>>74354597
>https://clyp.it/pm5pxh4u

lol everyone mad but I like this a lot.
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>>74355057
you don't have to be nice, he was being a dickhead
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>>74355019
because nobody has an ego fragile enough to whip em out for a dick measuring contest with some hothead boyo
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>>74355019
What, like someone has to prove something to you before they can call you out for acting retarded? Anyone at any skill level can see that you're a thin skinned baby.
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>>74355172
>that you're a thin skinned baby.
sure sounds like something an extremely confident person would say. I talked my shit, posted clyp and took the shit, but I'm the one who's thin-skinned?
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Why can't we post soundclouds in this thread? I'm not trying to pander my music with 5 followers I just don't want to re-upload everything I make to fucking CLYP
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>>74355224
okay nobody else reply

>>74355233
leads to self promo

it takes literally a minute to upload to clyp you lazy fuck
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>>74355019
where's your clyp?
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>>74355224
>I talked my shit, posted clyp and took the shit, but I'm the one who's thin-skinned?
Yes, because you're continuing to tard out about it.
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>>74355255
You can self promo through clyp too ^_______^
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>>74355299
>You can self promo through clyp too ^_______^
which is why usually when people post logged in they get ignored
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>made something i thought sounded cool earlier
>forgot to save
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>>74355299
>^_______^

you know damn well it's not the same you cheecky fuck
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https://clyp.it/jibrj0wo

How is this sounding? Too much reverb?
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>get banned from /prod/ discord for some reason at some point

how odd
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>>74356128
>https://clyp.it/jibrj0wo
might want to replace the sounds that sounds like dial up with something more lighter yet aggressive but its fine 8/10
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>>74356140
how? there's nobody even fucking there and they don't talk about anything worthwhile ever
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>>74356563
I duno, I'm pretty sure the last thing I posted was just about trackers for that south african dude. No idea when I got booted.
>>
Why do people hate soundcloud here?

And which is the best site to post music on?
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>>74356904
don't want people shilling their shit for clicks/follows. we want people anonymously posting their shit for constructive criticism

clyp.it
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>>74356904
jfc somebody JUST asked, lurk for like 5 fucking minutes before you ask something in a daily thread

look at a soundcloud thread and watch people drop their link and bounce. it's promo and that's it. the first line of the op says clyp.it

stop posting
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>>74356966
Fuck you fag...
>>
no soundcloud kids allowed
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>>74357102
this has to be countertrolling but I seriously cannot tell at this point
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why people never make a new /prod/ thread when one is about to die. one thread dies and the next one is like 24 hours later
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what adjustments this is missing to be a half decent master version?
https://55chan.org/b/src/1501913517401-1.ogg

this is the reference track btw (youtube quality a shit, i can upload a clear version to clyp if anyone wants it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBk1TBWvNYM
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>>74356904
then the thread fills up with hiphop niggers posting their aspiring conscious rapping over store bought beats.
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