>bands that only existed to spread the communist mind virus

Stereolab are part of the reason I'm now a marxist, because their music and aesthetics were so good that I realized the fact that:

there are NO great artists in history who were capitalist or corporatist. They were all marxist.

there is absolutely nothing wrong with communism

>>74295768
Except for the fact that its never succeeded and that every country that has Incorporated true communism crumbled?

>>74295763
Communism is the system where by which art is crushed by the iron heel of the state. It stands in contrast to capitalism, where art is instead crushed by the grueling dynamic of market forces.

>>74295878
Fascism holds a distinct third position. Where art is instead destroyed in the surreptitious pursuit of purity, traditionalism, and wholesomeness.

>>74295803
Crumbled due to western forces trying to stop communism funding coups and propaganda

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I hate this liberal faggot and his lies

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dgaf

they made this fucking masterpiece

10/10

Didnt the band literally state that they arent marxists

>>74296260
yet nearly every one of their songs is rambling on about the wonders of socialism

>>74296333
Marxism is not socialism

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>>74296333
>It's a "retard doesn't understand the difference in socialism and marxism episode again

>>74296427
does it even matter?

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>>74296196

>>74295975
Not an argument, more than half of the human population lived under communist regimes at a point.

>>74296530
95% of alt-righters are just conservatives who use swastikas to be edgy
when you actually talk to them about fascism they say its too authoritarian and faggy shit like that

>>74296617
The alt-right doesn't exist

>>74296631
i think it exists in the sense that "sjws" exist, a broad grouping of people who have relatively similar politics, use similar websites, and enjoy similar media

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>Not having parched indifference to politics, and the anthropocentric nature of human dialog

>>74296476
this is the dumbest shit I've had to read today like all this dude knows is edgy buzzwords like Marxist not any actual information

>>74296154
OP said communist, not liberal.

>>74297609
>dodging the question

>>74297652
Same thing, junior

>>74295803
they fail due to outside influence and you know it

>>74297681
The fuck is the question? You posted a Jaden Smith tweet and not a legitimate question famalam.

>>74297689
t. Fox News

Henry Cow. Easily one of the most important rock bands ever.

>>74295763
>there are NO great artists in history who were capitalist or corporatist.
Now that's just bullshit. Frank Zappa is easily the most important rock artist ever and he was a Libertarian (the right wing capitalist kind).

>>74295975
So you admit that communism has failed?

>>74297692
>they fail
That's all you needed to say.
>I built a beautiful sandhouse!
>but it fell down thanks to outside forces (the rain)
>therefore sandhouses have never been tried!

>>74297681
Marxism specifically refers to the ideas that Marx had while socialism is a more general term with tons of different ideas. You can literally just google it shithead

>>74297705
Do the differences between communism, marxism, and socialism, really matter, in regards to their status as right wing bogeyman?

>communist artist/band
>still profitted on music like capitalists
hmmm it's easy to be a communist when you live comfortably and don't have to worry about starvation

>>74297849
>promotes communism
>still lives in a Capitalism society
communism debunked!

>>74297844
Ah, I thought you were trying to say there's no meaningful difference between them. That makes a lot more sense.

Communism is a meme.
I always assume anyone I see praising communism to be either underage or a liberal arts trust fund kid. I'm almost always right in those assumptions.

>>74297906
meme == mind virus

>>74297729
>>they fail
>That's all you needed to say.
>>I built a beautiful sandhouse!
>>but it fell down thanks to outside forces (the rain)
>>therefore sandhouses have never been tried!
really makes u think

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>this thread

>>74296188
They're on spotfiy. Kek

>>74298767
>we're marxists
>pls pay for music now

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>>74295763
>I'm now a marxist

>>74295763
Because art is inherently emotional, not logical. Such a mindset lends itself to delusional, fantastical utopia.

is there an ideology that isn't kind of stupid and violent

>>74300578
radical centrism

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>>74299860
>delusional, fantastical utopia
>THE FREE MARKET WILL FIX IT

>>74295803
Being slammed with an enormous wrecking ball is not the same thing as "crumbling."

>>74299860
>Because art is inherently emotional
which is why you pertain to an ideology and system that dumbs down art and emotion to make it appealing to the lowest common denominator

>>74300578

The only anti ideology is freedom and love coexisting together in harmony. It's the eternal truth and dissolves all boundries. The kingdom of heaven is within you, now those archons aren't so scary after all

>>74297906
Why do people use "liberal arts" synonymously with "humanities" or "fine arts?"
A true liberal arts education is extremely maths heavy. Newton, Leibniz, and Da Vinci were all liberal arts dudes.

>>74295741
>lyrical-bolshevism.jpg

kek

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wtf, Stereolab are bunch of commies?
*deletes all their albums*
*deletes all my scrobbles*
*rates all their albums 0.5 on rym*

>>74297692
if an system ALWAYS fails due to outside influence (not true btw, but for the sake of discussion we'll say it is) should it not be chalked up to a failure anyway? what use would there be for marxism in a world where "outside influence" always brings the institutions following it down anyway?

>>74295878
>state
>>74300978
there are better alternatives that the left have been creating for years. No marxist-leninist actually followed what Lenin said to do anyway

>>74296530
>if you're not a communist you're a fascist

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>>74295803
>implying capitalism has been a success

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>tfw neoliberalism is going to die in our lifetime

Austrian school blfo

I'm less interested in why socialist countries have failed, and more in why socialist organisations, professing to liberate society's poor and downtrodden, always seem to degenerate into paranoid, authoritarian personality cults.

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superior commie album coming through

>>74301114
>No Marxist-Leninist actually followed what Lenin said to do

because Leninism isnt a fucking cookbook you absolute moron. Leninism is a sociological framework that's been applied depending on the conditions of the country implementing it

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>Literally every artist/band mentioned in this thread was raised and established their careers in a market capitalist society

No Marxist/Socialist society has ever produced popular music worth consuming.

>>74298006
masterpiece

>>74301872
Grazhdanskaya Oborona is p good

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>>74301872
which it's like saying

>Literally every vegan person was raised in an omnivore society

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>>74301904
Except there has never been a vegan civilisation or society. Whereas there have been countless socialist and Marxist societies, and every single one of them has oppressed art, music and culture in order to control the populace.

>>74301904
yeah, but you can't be a vegan if you still partake in consuming meat

>>74301926

There was a vegan society. All the people in it got sick.

>>74301926
that wasn't real communism though

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>>74295741
>/pol/fags pretending to be le sjws!!! making vaguely music related threads to argue with other /pol/fags

>>74301887
Letov was a nazbol.

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>>74297729
Hello my friend, you seem to be looking at it a bit wrong. All castles fall down someday, but the ethics in which the castle is built truly matters the most of all.
In capitalism the castle is built for an elite class. In Soviet communism the castle was built for all but used by the elite class that took over after they kicked out the last one. What myself and a lot of my comrades are wanting is a castle built for the people with the people ruling it, no dictatorship of the proletariat but specialist advising each field necessary and direct democracy to sort out our inner issues. A labour based society where as long as you do your job then your needs will be met, a true sense of freedom yet with a strong sense of brotherhood.

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>>74296530

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>>74297729
>So you admit that communism has failed?

>>74297729
>Frank Zappa is easily the most important rock artist ever
Top Fucking Kek

>tfw just wanna talk about stereolab

>>74302726
Is he not? Who else then? I'm talking about a single person here by the way, not band.

>>74302000
The thing is communism/socialism/anarchism has been attempted about a hundred times already and it has always failed.
I disagree with the rest of the things you said as well. While it is true there is an elite that benefits the most in this system, it's this system what benefits the poor the most as well (global poverty has been decreasing world wide since the introduction of post mercantilist capitalism, even to this very day).
Also, direct democracy is lame. Representative is better as the issues are being addressed by relatively more competent people. Trying to organize political issues through direct democracy reaches no compromises unlike representative.

>>74302492
heh

>>74302915
>Is he not?
No of course he isn't.
>Who else then?
Much more important figures include but are not limited to (and any of these single figures are superior to Zappa):
>Robert Johnson
>Chuck Berry
>BB King
>Bob Dylan

>>74302934
Reasonable answer (except for Dylan), but I still disagree.

>>74295878
>what is anarcho-communism

>>74302965
An utterly retarded failure that gets blown the fuck out by fascists, capitalists and communists.

>>74302962
There are plenty and plenty and plenty of white European musicians bringing white European music to rock. There are much fewer artists who actually standardized a tradition of rock music as it originated from black culture.

>>74297689
W E W L A D
Do some research next time

>>74302980
Frank Zappa did way more than just "bringing white European music to rock". He created original works that were removed from anything else before. Freak Out, with Brain Police and its D Side, for example, or the Weasels Ripped My Flesh track.

>>74297849
Communists are not against getting paid for their work, quite the opposite.

>>74303021
Freak Out just sounded like bog-standard Blues Rock with, again, a transfer of Varese to rock music on the D side.

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>>74301872
>No Marxist/Socialist society has ever produced popular music worth consuming.

I'm sorry what
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KODWcrncnUU

>>74303049
It was way more than that, and while it's true he claimed Varese as an influence, I don't hear any Varese in Freak Out.
You also have to consider the psych/noise rock tracks which again had nothing to do with white European music. And listen to Weasels.

>>74303062
You realize the club that this recording was inspired by closed in the forties? This was back before Cuba was transformed from a leading Latin American economy to communist dictatorship.

>>74295763
I'm glad we don't have people like this making any important decisions in society.

>>74303243
There is no way Trump will win a second term at this point.

>>74303275
You know what's really funny? It's that he has more odds to win a second term than he did to win the first one.

>>74301789
>austrian school
>neoliberal
Completely incorrect, look at Chicago mate.