Post favourite album and personal philosophy

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only philosophy i need is marxism-leninism. everything else is bullshit wankery

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existence is suffering

>>74294588
wew lad

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Interested in egoism but I haven't even finished Der Einzige und sein Eigentum, so I can't really call myself an egoist.

>>74294588
Read Dauvé

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Lifes meaningless so why care

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We suffer because its easier than the alternatives.

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Doing something may be difficult, but it's not impossible. If it's possible, there's a chance, however small, that I can do it.

That's probably it, but if I were to pick one particular branch of philosophy, Existentialism, especially the one based on the works of Kierkegaard.

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>>74294572
Übermensch

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Stoicism

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Poop

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The universe is absurd and making sense of it is impossible. But I've moved past nihilism and I just enjoy being part of enormous beautiful meaningless mess of life and consciousness and I'm grateful for my time here and try to appreciate every second of it.

>>74294819
Exactly my view, nothing matters but thats okay

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God created maths

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Bland Utilitarian Consequentialism

>>74294819
To be fair, that's true nihilism, there's no intrisic meaning to anything, so just enjoy yourself and be happy and help those who you want to help and all that. It's not really "Nothing matters, fuck this gay Earth."

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>>74294572
>Nobody should demand that I live only for them, nor should I demand that others live solely for me

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continental philosophy in general

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We stand on the plane of free-will, yet often lost in the fog of determinism

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Naturalist, but I think a pantheistic/interconnected perspective is uplifting, as well as fairly accurate.
Heidegger had the idea that you should always keep in mind that you're going to die, and live your life accordingly. I like that. Nietzsche said you should live your life as if you were going to be forced to relive it infinitely more times exactly the way you did this time. I like that even more. I don't believe in consciousness after death.

My favorite philosopher is probably Dogen, who founded the Soto school of Zen. It's the hardcore zazen school, that's all about focus and awareness. Basically, it's about removing yourself from human drama mentally, to refocus on what's actually important, as well as develop in the moment awareness so you can be completely honest with yourself in your given situation. This maximizes agency and helps break unhealthy patterns of behavior.

I'm for universal healthcare, access to education, and democratizing the workplace as much as possible. That said, though these are socialist positions, in terms of economic development I'm more capitalistic because I don't see socialist reforms as effective in poor countries.

Not all religions are made equally, and not all branches of all religions are equal. Because they're essentially philosophies, and some are more valuable than others. The only form of Christianity I care for is Quakerism. Sikhism is a nice religion. I'm fine with Judaism. The only forms of Islam I support are independent Sufists, especially the Bektashi and Alevis.

I'm for self-improvement, which includes fitness, avoiding junk food, and NoFap (I struggled with porn addiction). I'm generally anti-drug, though I would be up for trying certain psychedelics (mescaline, mushrooms, DMT). I only drink at parties, to loosen me up.

I tend to prefer music that feels emotionally honest, like hardcore punk, bebop jazz, and singer/songwriters.

I like Middle Eastern and Indian girls a lot, and would be fine with race mixing.

>>74294867
that's interesting. I'm not pretentious enough to go around telling people I'm a "TRUE nihilist" but thats nice to know lol. thanks anon.

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>>74294819
>I just enjoy being part of enormous beautiful meaningless mess of life and consciousness

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>>74294588
What if i told you marx actually needed others philosophys to build his own therefore if you need marx you also need the others cause there wouldnt be a marx in the first place you know.....

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>anybody with socialist "philosophy"

newsflash: marx wasn't a philosopher. he was a bourgeois slacker

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>it's all shit but you gotta try so stay PURE minded

>>74294958
I wished that everytime someone posts this image their hands would just fell off

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>>74294930
How can people genuinely believe in determinism?

>>74295026
I only said "determinism" because I could not think of a word that is the opposite of free-will. My point is is that we like to think that we always have have control over ourselves, and we can have self-control, but there are times where we can't control ourselves. There is something within us that makes us commit actions that we are consciously unaware.

>>74295026
>>74295026
I think determinism is right, and also completely worthless. What we do is determined by our mental processes, which in turn is determined by our own chemistry and environment. But who gives a shit? It's still on you to live the life you want to live.

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hedonism

>it's yet another anon pretends to be deep episode

i'll be here all week

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>>74294819
I believe this is called absurdism, and I'm in the exact same boat as you.

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"A sound mind in a sound body, is a short but full description of a happy state in this world" - John Locke

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Waifuism

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when i get a brain tumor i'm gonna take some of you with me

>>74294588
wow

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>>74294572
ubermensch and antinomian sin abounding

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>>74294572
Most of my philosphy boils down to the idea that as long as what you do doesn't physically harm another person (without their informed consent) you should be allowed to do that. That means I believe drugs, prostitution, assisted suicide, etc should be legalized for adults.
Most of this comes from nihilistic existentialism. No surprise I like the philosophy of Albert Camus. Might be a little more surprising that I also deeply enjoy Alan Watts. I don't really know or care to define what my religion is. Probably a hodgepodge of deism, Hinduism, and paganism. The only thing I particularly believe is that one or more beings created us for some purpose, whether it's for entertainment, research, or any other reason. I also regularly make use of entheogens.

>>74295435
you fucking fag. I can't believe you can write all of that and you probably feel like some big smart complex man. hahahaha i am lmaoing at you so hard. you are a joke

>>74295435
You're definitively the biggest faggot here, and that's saying something considering everyone else itt

>>74295488
He's a faggot that works at complex.

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Theravada Buddhism. plan to ordain but my parents want me to finish my education first.

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>>74294572
Objective: Survive

>>74295435
dude stfu

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Work hard, try to be good to people.

>>74294588
you're a living meme congrats

>>74294658
stupid

>>74294681
true

>>74294819
both high tier

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what's the philosophy of "i recognize, make peace with and grow with the physiological and biological changes happening in my body as well as recognize and make peace with what's going on in the external and live accordingly"

i also recognize how important expression is regardless of who's watching

>>74294942
i like you. you've probably been through a lot of pain in this life. you would adore jacques brel if it's emotional honesty you want

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>>74295435
>Most of my philosphy boils down to the idea that as long as what you do doesn't physically harm another person (without their informed consent) you should be allowed to do that. That means I believe drugs, prostitution, assisted suicide, etc should be legalized for adults.
>Most of this comes from nihilistic existentialism. No surprise I like the philosophy of Albert Camus. Might be a little more surprising that I also deeply enjoy Alan Watts. I don't really know or care to define what my religion is. Probably a hodgepodge of deism, Hinduism, and paganism. The only thing I particularly believe is that one or more beings created us for some purpose, whether it's for entertainment, research, or any other reason. I also regularly make use of entheogens.

>>74295598
Nice, Bach would be proud

>>74295020
you said it better than i ever could

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Everyone gets what's coming to them.

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>God exists
>The closest we can come to understanding God is through love
>True happiness is to approach oneness with God, which comes from living a virtuous and loving life
>Faith, etc, a la Kierkegaard
"Life must be lived looking forward but can only be understood looking backward"
>Politically, generally libertarian but lately have been moving further right

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>>74294572
I just fucking hate this world, and the human worms feasting on its carcass. My whole life is just cold, bitter hatred, and I always wanted to die violently. This is the time of vengeance, and no life is worth saving, and I will put in the grave as many as I can. It's time for me to kill and it's time for me to die; my genocide crusade begins here.

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Pessimism, with a hint of Thelema

>>74294942
I would fuck you

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>>74294572

Learn from my mistakes and move past them to become a better person in future. Why worry and regret things that are in the past?

>>74295681
>>The closest we can come to understanding God is through love
>>Politically, generally libertarian but lately have been moving further right
>yeah, instead of assisting helpless and poor people, we're gonna remake the country into an everybody for themselves mess. That's what Jesus would do

>>74295435
Danny is the goat

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>>74295689

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>>74295689

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>>74294819
Pretty much this verbatim. I like your style.

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I'm 22 years old and I'm still a virgin. I've never even kissed a girl. I've been through college for two and a half years, more than that actually, and I'm still a virgin. It has been very torturous. College is the time when everyone experiences those things such as sex and fun and pleasure. Within those years, I've had to rot in loneliness. It's not fair. You girls have never been attracted to me. I don't know why you girls aren't attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it. It's an injustice, a crime, because... I don't know what you don't see in me. I'm the perfect guy and yet you throw yourselves at these obnoxious men instead of me, the supreme gentleman

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>>74295689

>>74295784
damn

>>74295689
*tips your edgy pandering videogame*

>>74295435
anyone who uses the word "entheogens" is a fucking moron in my book. you're getting high - stop acting like it's anything more than that. unless you're literally an indigenous shaman you're not doing anything other than getting fucked up. i swear to god you people are the worst.

>>74295784
almost had me there

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Blaming others for whatever failure you are is the most immature thing you can do. Same as hating the world completely, there's always good people out there, this site might not be a good conduit to see that.

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>>74295689
Stop co-opting an album about punishing an edgy young man with misery, suffering and death.

>>74295815
i'm not sorry that you get triggered by established diction you petty little man

>god tier
absurdism
>high tier
epicureanism
>mid tier
existentialism
>low tier
nihilism
>shit tier
solipsism

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Altruism with some nihilistic tendencies

>>74295842
he's right though

you're on 4chan, there's literally no reason to say "entheogens", it's very obvious that you're trying to kid other people or - more likely - yourself into thinking that you're doing something deep or productive when you're getting high. You're absolutely not.

Getting high is fine, just don't act like "dabbling in entheogens" is on par with making art or eating fine food or whatever.

>>74295724
>He fell for the "libertarianism equals memeball anarchocapitalism" shit
It comes from a general distrust of the status quo, especially with the recent wave of high-up politicians running things into the ground out of their own self-interests. Bush/Obama/McCain/Hillary are all heads of the same snake, the only reason they compete is over who of them gets the right to fuck you to further consolidate their power. None of them give a shit about the poor or anything that they spout to get reelected. The unfortunate would be much better taken care of by a system of charity instead of endless bureaucracy designed by the very politicians who are only in it for themselves/their pursuit of power.

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WELCOME TO HELL
WELCOME TO HELL
WELCOME TO HELL

>>74295815
Dude it really opens your third eye man and you'll like feel really connected to the universe and shit y'know, also it's natural and cures cancer man y'know there are no negative effects
Captcha: Descartes not

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I hate to say it, but each other's all we got

>>74295890
>he fell for the "everyone in government is equally shit" meme
>he fell for the muh charities is gonna solve everything meme

apologies, I thought I was talking to someone at least mentally sound

>>74295842
>made up by an informal committee studying shamans only 40-some years ago
>now used exclusively by upper-middle class white people who want a moral excuse for their drug use
>established diction
alright

>>74295890
>He fell for the "charity is the safety net of the poor in a free market system" meme

People will continue to die in the gutters

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I'm attracted to Derek Parfit's non-realist cognitivism view of moral truths and I accept a form of rule-consequentialism that includes a eudaemonic view of well-being. I think that the capabilities approach is the best theoretical framework (at the moment) for handling moral and political problems in the world. Basically, Aristotle and Aquinas were right until later analytic traditions developed more systematic and nuanced positions that accounted for issues plaguing earlier accounts.

I don't see any compelling positions to take in most metaphysical questions so I focus most of my attention on questions like, "What ought I to do?" or "How ought I live my life?" or "What makes a life satisfying and how can I achieve such satisfaction?" I also think the Nihilist and Relativist views of meaningful lives are generally not well thought out and collapse under minimal scrutiny or after reading an introductory article on the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on either.

>>74295876
it's only "very obvious" because you're operating as someone who chooses to correlate ulterior motives in the first place. why not take what's being said at face value? is it because it's drugs and it's taboo and makes you feel uncomfortable? why must you project insecurities? he seems well written and well read, what's the problem? so many questions -- fuck people like you.

>>74295955
clearly you have no idea how language works. take a linguistics class you child.

>>74295995
dude stfu

>>74295995
fugg off /lit/

>>74295020
I guess it hits too close to home for you.

>>74295950
>"everyone in government is equally shit"
>meme
Pursuit of power is a form of Satanism. Effectively no one gets to national levels of influence without completely losing your soul to corruption and depravity. If there was ONE recent candidate/runner who I actually believed was trying to improve things for the average American I would have backed them with no problem. When the options given to you are a sociopathic warmonger or a depraved buffoon, how can you not feel disillusioned?
>>74295965
Notice I said ideal, there's still a ton of work to be done before that would actually work

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Favourite album: Billy Talent III
Personal Philosophy: Mainly Naturalism(If you call that a philosophy, and consequentialism. I am boring.

>>74296072
Next time I attend a Spirit Cooking session, I'll keep you in mind.

>>74296002
if you're using a word, there's always a reason for it. If you're deviating from the most commonly used word or phrase, there should be a reason for it. There's a reason people don't refer to their commutes as "lugubrious" or their nights our with friends as "crepuscular", and it's because there's no need to; these words in these situations detract from what you're trying to communicate, and end up communicating more about the speaker than their speech. In fact, that's often the point of trotting out these kinds of polysyllabic obstacles, is to signal how intelligent, well-read, or cultured you are.

If you're trying to tell me the most efficient way of describing getting high on 4chan is "engaging in entheogenic activities" then I'm gonna have to call bullshit, just like the idea that you're a different person that Mr. Entheogen in the first place merely praising how "well-read" he seems.

>>74296099
>If you don't suck HC's dick you must be some kind of right-wing conspiracist
If you actually believed she had any redeeming qualities you're too far gone.

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Be excellent. Learn what you like to do and do it. Don't be a dick though.

Also death isn't scary it's just like going to sleep. If you're lucky it won't even hurt.

>>74296147
If that's your immediate conclusion to my post, you're too far gone.

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Plant trees even when you won't enjoy their shade.

>>74294639
Same

>>74296171
Then work on your arguments if you're trying to say something different
>Criticize general corruption and both presidential candidates
>wow le crazy /pol/ fake news amirite

>>74296147
>one of the most powerful politicians of the last 25 years somehow has literally no redeeming qualities

w e w

even trump can be funny and has a kind of media savvy, despite being one of the least redeemable public figures in recent memory.

>>74295435
it doesn't surprise me that you don't understand camus and just try to sound important amongst your peers. how about starting with assisting your own suicide?

>>74296072
sanders was p cool

>>74296163
I hate sleep though

>>74296112
>these words in these situations detract from what you're trying to communicate, and end up communicating more about the speaker than their speech

honestly i think you're full of shit yourself and your whining is definitely simply because of drugs you know nothing about making you feel uncomfortable and insecure and not whatever more extreme and ridiculous examples you're on about here

like seriously dude, re-evaluate your critical thinking skills. drawing motivational parallels with saying shit like "lugubrious" and "crepuscular?" are you fucking serious?

>>74296050

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/capability-approach/

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Fascism.

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Existential nihilism

>>74296209
>everything is bad lel, there's no gradation in this
>ah, but I'm still going far right
>satan is behind this for some reason
>if you make fun of my religious delusion you ust be a hillshill

but yes, Hillary is still better than Trump, no doubt about that
if you don't think so, post some arguments that don't have to do with Satan

>>74295854
True

>>74296242
sanders is an economic illiterate who got stupendously far by appealing to people's base positive instincts and passing it off as good policy. Protectionism is bad, $15 federal minimum wage is bad, his healthcare plan was bad, and he knows very little about how the economy actually works despite that being by far his biggest issue. People just swallowed the meme.

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>>74294819
this
Even though it's likely none of this will matter in the end, I might as well try to make the world a better place while i'm here.

>>74296258
i cannot imagine someone taking issue with the intent behind that phrase would be someone who knows "nothing" about those drugs. i fucking did ayahuasca in peru. i wouldn't give a shit what he called getting high if i wasn't an active drug user and didn't have to put up with people like him.

>>74296242
As much as I hate most /pol/ memes there was one crude cartoon that summed it up
>donate to me so we can fight the establishment
>oops I lost all your money to the establishment
>vote for the establishment

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Existencialism

>>74294657
Egoism isn't a philosophy, it's more specific than that. It's a possible explanation for ethics.

>>74296302
be specific. all you said was that he was bad.

>>74296339
>dont try cuz you might lose

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>>74296282
IF EVERYBODY WAS A FASCIST, ACROSS THE USA, YOU BE SEEING THE PROTESTS, LIKE CAL I FORN I A. BUT OVER IN THE BRITAIN, LED BY MERKEL MARK II, HER CROWD LOVES HER FASCISM, FASCIST GREAT BRITAIN. YOU GOT THE INSIDE OUTSIDE CAMERAS, INSIDE OUTSIDE CAMERAS, YEAH EVERYBODY'S A FASCIST, IN FASCIST GREAT BRITAIN

>>74296258
why would you assume it's because i'm uncomfortable or insecure about drugs, especially someone else's drug use? this makes literally no sense desu. I do some drugs myself, and I had no problem spending time with people who prefer more extreme "entheogenic" experiences than me like salvia and DMT.

you can keep saying "entheogenic", but know that in most contexts people are gonna think you're pretentious and using that kind of terminology to make it sound like you do more than just get high.

>>74295013
Hi charles

>>74294657
>Der Einzige und sein Eigentum
Not only does this guy think egoism is a philosophy

He put Max Stirner's title in it's original language.

I bet you go around telling people what you thought of Brat'ya Karamazovy.

whew lawd

>>74296228
>If they accrue power to the point of being completely out of touch with common society then they must be a better choice to lead common society
?
>>74296290
>Represented continuation of the deep-roots political dynasty system that's been steadily driving the country down since Bush Sr
>Clinton foundation directly linked to scams in multiple different branches
>Multiple people who have exposed corruption of Clinton/associates have mysteriously died immediately after doing so (I know to be careful of conspiracy theories but it's far too strong of a pattern to ignore at this point; Klaus Ebberwein, Seth Rich, Vince Foster)
>Proven to be in direct collusion with mainstream media, which pushed outright lies in an attempt to get her elected
>Repeatedly flipped on major issues, refused to back up points or respond to arguments in debates and speeches, entire platform was Obama-esque feel good slogans and vague "it's time to have a female president" shit instead of focusing on supposed strengths
>Pro-abortion, even late-term

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>>74294572
New season of Doctor Who looks good

Anyway, I can never pick just one but right now I'll say Bad Blood by Clowns

And everyone is just kids pretending to be grown ups, no-one knows what they're doing. Don't be an asshole, love those around you.

>>74296418
>Lose
>Do the fastest 180 known to man and bend over for a candidate that represents the antithesis of what you campaigned on, even when it's revealed the primaries were fixed

>>74296390
1. protectionism is bad. tariffs are a burden on the consumer. Sanders' opposition to trade deals would drive up the prices of imports, disproportionately hurting the working class. He and Trump actually have very similar stances on trade.

2. A federal 15$ minimum wage is stupid as hell. Yes, the minimum wage needs to go up in certain places, but too high of a minimum wage has negative effects on employment; this is just common sense. What is also common sense is where this effect would be most devastating: poor, small, rural communities, often in the Rust Belt that everyone claims Sanders understands so intimately.

3. "free college" is, aside from being wildly irresponsible from a financial standpoint, just a huge handout to the upper-middle class. This for the most part does not benefit poor people, who already receive immense federal money in grants and scholarships, especially if accepted to elite institutions. Instead, this subsidizes the people who end up actually paying the price of college: upper-middle class students, often mediocre ones without merit scholarships. For all his unkempt shouting, this policy does not help the poor or underprivileged.

I could go on for ages, but these are three of the main points.

>>74296579
its the classic lesser of two evils move. trump was far more antithetical

>>74294572
Philosophy: Stoic existentialism
Album: Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold and Manipulate

>>74296302
This is correct. Hillary Clinton was unironically the best candidate on economic issues in 2016 by a wide margin. Memegressives and Trump's inbred redneck cult that based all economic decisions on how many brown people it'd involve will never understand this.

>>74294867
Nietzsche harder friends.

Passive Nihilism is "nothing matters, even me" Active Nihilism is "Burn everything"

>>74296619
He represented a challenge to the status quo, and was an outsider like Bernie. That matters much more than minor policy differences. More people than they think supported Bernie because they wanted something different, same reason Trump had a lot of young supporters. The left failed to realize it wasn't a "blue vs red" thing for young people, but a desire to try something different (though I know believe Bernie was bought from day one)

>>74295784
Just make sure the sorority actually lets you in this time Elliot!

>>74296619
If you think Trump is more "evil" than Clinton I want some of the dope you've been on the past couple of decades.

>>74296645
>le rural suburban retards
This will never be an argument
Explain why she was a better choice

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Psychedelic use is the path to enlightenment.

>>74294588
I know exactly who you are. Your name is Sam, you live in Tempe, Arizona.

>>74296721
Explain enlightenment, or else you're just a junkie who wants to sound profound

>>74294819
>>74294838
>>74294867
>>74295252
>>74295603
>>74295772
>>74296310

>I share a board with these teenagers

if dubs then I leave forever

>>74296678
>narrative matters more than policy
>muslim ban vs free community college
>build the wall vs free trade
>ramping down the drug war vs jeff sessions AG
>increased LGBT rights vs VP Mike Pence

fucking kill me i used to think people being more civically engaged would be a good thing holy fuck did the last two years prove me wrong

>>74296750
Fuck

>>74296600
protectionism is advantageous in many scenarios. particularly during the nascent years of the united states when we had heavy tariffs on british manufactured goods in order to develop our own industry. slightly cheaper chinese goods also arent of much benefit if your job was offshored.

if the minimum wage had kept pace with its purchasing power in the 60s then it would be roughly $20/hr today. there has also been a stark divergence between wages and productivity since the 70s. productivity has increased significantly and wages have not.

many other nations have free, or heavily subsidized college. if you dont want to impose tariffs to bring back manufacturing then providing cheap higher education is the best way to move forward with a high income service economy

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Nihilist

>>74296645
thanks for being you

>>74296709
dawg i literally wrote a whole post about why hillary was better than bernie. or do you mean trump? i'm happy to provide more reasons, it's genuinely incredibly easy.

>>74296678
>He represented a challenge to the status quo, and was an outsider like Bernie. That matters much more than minor policy differences.
fuck off

I have no idea what Im doing

>>74296755
Why do people even think free community college is a good thing? It doesn't fit or work in the American context. They're already overcrowded with driveless deadbeats. Removing the tuition cost would just remove the incentive to actually try.

>>74296755
>free
lmaooooooooooo
>building wall
Explain why attempting to stop massive illegal immigration is wrong
>drug war
This was part of why the wall was so popular (agree in principle though)
>LGBT rights
Equal marriage is set in a SC decision, what rights don't they have? If you're talking about trannies in the military, explain how allowing people with severe mental illness into strictly organized systems like the military is a good idea

>>74296822
dude stfu

>>74296709
>Not a protectionist
>Supporter of net neutrality
>Raise the minimum wage but not in a way that would catastrophically fuck over the nation like Bernie
>Healthcare policy beyond "Fuck Obama"
>Tax plan that would balloon the deficit significantly less than any of the other candidates
>Didn't want a literally useless, cost-ineffective wall (most illegal immigrants come from overstaying visas-- not crossing the border on foot)
Gee. I don't know why she would have been the best option. She wasn't perfect, but she was the only viable candidate that didn't go full retard.
>>74296786
>He doesn't know that NAFTA has increased American manufacturing
>He doesn't know that the manufacturing jobs lost in the US are from automation
>He doesn't understand global supply chains and economies of scale
Embarrassing desu

>>74296813
Misread, thought you meant H vs Trump
>>74296851
Look man, everyone deserves a taxpayer-funded post-African women's music studies degree
(Honestly though funding for stem could work out if it was implemented well)

>>74296740
You know when you figure something out and suddenly an aspect of your life / the universe suddenly makes sense in a way you hadn't considered before, and this new acquisition of understanding brings you joy and makes you feel more at ease? Enlightenment would be that happening to everything all at once so you feel infinitely aware of everything, if that makes any sense to ya

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>>74296786
protectionism is almost never advantageous, it's literally economic consensus that tarrifs hurt industry and consumers. Even if your point was correct, the US is not in an economic situation where protectionism would help. This is a fairly black and white case.

See my attached image; your claim about minimum wage is objectively wrong. Yes, the minimum wage has fallen in value and needs to be raised. No, an across-the-board 15$ minimum wage is not a good policy solution.

Other nations higher education systems are so different from ours as to often be incomparable. The significant presence of private education in the US, for one, makes an enormous difference. Regardless, concentrating on community college or trade programs or any number of other specific, less sexy, harder-to-make-into-a-slogan policies would be better for the lower class and dying industrial communities than would free college.

>>74295689
5edgy7me

>>74296921
Fair, but how do you understand that enlightenment will be the result of drugs if you haven't achieved it (I can only assume since you're spending your valuable time arguing with strangers on a Lao fishmongering bulletin)

>>74296866
>Explain why attempting to stop massive illegal immigration is wrong
Different anon, but "stopping massive illegal immigration" and "let's build a literal physical barrier that will cost us billions in construction and maintenance and not even solve the problem" are two different things. The wall is fucking stupid and you either know it or lack the ability to think critically. Besides, that "massive illegal immigration" is hella cheap labor. It may not be exactly "moral", but it's a vital part of our agricultural economy. You can't just stop that and expect no negative side-effects.

>>74296928
What about the argument that minimum wage isn't intended to support a family, and that increasing it will lead to massive layoffs that will only get worse as automation continues to eliminate the minimum wage tier jobs?

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>god exists, and even if he doesn't, the moral framework of a religion is only healthy
>everybody just wants to impress everyone else, therefore be good to others unless given a reason not to
>we are all living life together so we should try to understand the views and opinions of everyone. everyone's opinion matters because an opinion of one contributes to the general opinion.
>drugs and alcohol are poison to the body, but the other states of consciousness able to be experienced through their use is helpful to understanding others, as well as the ability to be introspective and understand your own psyche
>self-actualization is the meaning of life. once you know yourself completely, you will be able to see the things you want to achieve in life clearly.

>>74296866
see
>>74296887

like half of these are just misdirections and talking points. Most illegal immigrants are not from Mexico, and illegal immigration is actually dropping. A wall is a huge waste of money and resources; spend that money on fixing roads and bridges or stopping AIDS or any number of other more important issues. Immigrants, legal or otherwise, commit significantly less crime than native-born americans. Immigration reform is an important aspect of policy, but I'm literally not worried about illegal immigration at all; it arguably has a positive effect on the country.

Equal marriage is one thing, but they don't have minority protections in the workplace, and a lot of states have been going crazy passing anti-gay legislation. I won't litigate the trans issue with you; there's zero chance you'll change your mind and it's a waste of both of our time.

I'll just add on that if you care about abortion literally at all then voting for a republican is usually the worse move, and Trump was no exception.

>>74296993
idk if you're the bernie anon, bc if so this is kind of a weird thing to bring up but

we are at a point where our social safety net has been completely gutted. in the absence of a social safety net, we should increase wages so that people don't struggle to survive while employed. I would prefer if minimum wage were tied to an actual value, like percentage of median wage in a county or municipality, that way it would accurately reflect the needs of a community.

Past minimum wage increases have shown little effect on employment, so I expect a modest one - as in much less than 15 - to have little effect as well. So do economists. Automation is an issue, but there will be other jobs. There is not a finite amount of a certain level of labor for all time; minimum wage-tier jobs have disappeared before, only to be replaced by other, still minimum wage-tier jobs.

>>74297033
I left out abortion from my post because this is 4chan and I expected some >womeme bullshit. This is correct though. Banning abortion doesn't even change the amount of abortions that occur. Any arguments against it are just puritanical nonsense.

>>74296951
It's not so easy to explain to someone who hasn't experienced the experience. You can answer this question very easily yourself for no more than the cost of a CD.

>>74296721
newfag here, what is the name of this album and why do I see it everywhere here?

>>74297154
i get that but

well i was gonna say even men would wanna have the option if they knock someone up, on a purely self centered level

but then again, this is 4chan, so that's probably not that relevant

>>74297244
Godspeed You! Black Emperor- Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennae to Heaven

You see it everywhere because it's one of the strongest post-rock albums written.

>>74297244
Lift your skinny fists like antenna to heaven - Godspeed You Black Emperor
Now learn to reverse image search pleb

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Absurdism

>>74297280
will be checking it out, thanks
>>74297305
yeahhh I thought of that right after lol

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Death Grips - Le Money Store
just beeing myself

>>74297244
You've gotten the name now from other user's, now you should give it a listen! It's a great place to start and understand post-rock. It's a very atmospheric genre that relies heavily on very long, intricate crescendo's. Because of these elements, this is definitely a "headphone genre". A lot of people on /mu/ recommend you listen to albums start to finish with some good headphones on, but in post-rock this is especially so. It's more important than normal that you sit back and relax with some headphones and let the tracks blend together leading you on a journey of emotional lows and explosive highs using expansive sound-scapes.

Have fun!

>>74297421
jesus

>>74297421
I'm currently only 5 minutes into it and I'm wearing an expensive noise cancelling headset. fantastic stuff, the built-up crescendos create a feeling of suspense. I can already begin to understand why its so heavily revered. I feel almost emotional

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Don't kill people in the name of your shitty beliefs.

>>74294572
This is genuinely THE most cringe thread I've ever seen

/mu/ meets philosophy, never forget

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>Nothing anyone does or makes could possibly mean anything in the distant future, let's just mean something to each other now.
More personally:
>I haven't felt happy in so long, I just want to chase any potential moment of human intimacy that I can

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Existentialist

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>catholic, God is real
>just be a nice person
>understanding others values does not equal abandoning your own
>most stress is bad
>appreciate everything now, not in retrospect
>try to help others if you are in a postition to do so
basically

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Glenn Branca - The Ascension

Life is beautiful, and it's the only truly sure thing we have. Calling life meaningless is lazy. It's about making your own meaning. Whether or not there's a god and whether there's a reason for us to be alive or not doesn't matter. Just keep doing things. I'd like to live forever, so long as I continued to have goals. Once they're all complete, even the goals that I pick up on the path to other ones, I could happily die.

Also, I think that at the root, all religions are connected, and in most cases it's healthy to have one. Often times, however, translation error and literal interpretations have lead to the deaths of millions, which is the greatest flaw.

God in the New Testament is allegorical for humanity as a whole.

Aggression and sadness are important to being a human, and are completely healthy, though both are treated like a disease. In a societal context, they're often demeaned, but I think that in ways, both are some of the greatest providers of art and music with memorable, original, and even beautiful qualities.

I find it hard to mold a political stance because I often find myself agreeing with few ideas because I'm probably just stupid. None seem to be capable of holding themselves up in the long run due to human nature. If anyone has some different political beliefs, slide them by so I can research into them. I'd like to not a centrist, and especially come across as one of those guys who puts themselves above everyone else in a debate.

Don't be too rough, but know that a love you all, boys.

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>life-style
Hedonism and Stoicism

>ethics
Utilitarianism

>politics
Classical Liberalism

>album
The Books - The Lemon of Pink

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i'm dumb as shit so i have no major philosophical views

just do whatever and so long as you're not hurting anyone it's probably fine

>>74297519
Don't belittle a discussion/image forum for getting some dialogue going.

One of the worst parts of this board is your sort of attitude. Criticism is avoided here so much, and I think it's great when we get a conversation going in a big thread every now and then. It's like people get to breathe on this board for once.

So many threads on here now-a-days are the lowest common denominator threads, I swear.

If you're more educated in philosophy or political science than join in and educate some people it would make the thread even that much more productive.

Fuck you, is basically what I'm getting at here.

>>74295435
wasn't aware that human trafficking is harmless but ok

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Try not to be a total dick

>>74297630
It's not though, and that poster never implied that.

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>>74294572
If you don't work, you shouldn't complain about how your life sucks. If you live off of other people's money ("daddy just bought me a $50k car and is paying my rent and college :~))))))"), I fucking despise you.

Also, fat people are the fucking worst.

>>74297662
t. welfare queen

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if you're sad, speak in lowercase until you find your happiness again.

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LibSoc, A mix of Situationism and Absurdism whatever you wanna call it

>>74297677
what

>>74297658
I must be having a stroke if Im agreeing with you

>>74297712
>LibSoc
>Situationism
wtf i thougt you were cool

>>74297739
Soon it will come the time when you realize I have always been right.

>>74297756
hey guy im just tryna contribute to debord

>>74297662
You'll grow out of that mindset and realize that everyone suffers in time

Before you go off on me I'm 30 and work for a living, I understand your mentality I had it in my early 20's when I was a dishwasher paying rent by scrubbing floors and shit before I got my shit together. I get why you think this way, I empathize.

But I also stopped thinking that way. Maybe you will too. Maybe I'm wrong and I should still think like you, but I haven't seen anything as I get older to suggest that. Everything I've seen so far just gives me more empathy for others as I get older. I don't mind fat lazy people anymore, they are suffering more than you know.

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>it is what it is
>throughout all of human history we've come up with different ways to define and understand certain aspects of it
>all symbolic systems depend on axioms that can't be proven using the tools of that system
>the more we try to explain it, the more abstract it becomes
>sensory experience is all that's inherently "there" so to speak
>so let's get fucked up and wave our dicks at the sun

>>74297604
>Hedonism AND Stoicism
Now how's that supposed to work, ya pseud?

>>74297619
I have no problem with discussion about music. I can listen to people shill artists like grimes all day even though I disagree with them. It's when /mu/ tries to talk about things they know nothing about (e.g. philosophy) that things become super cringey. Just look at these comments. Do they not make you regret devoting your time to this board? Some of them are unbearable. Just stick to music, as originally intended, and everything is chill

>If you're more educated in philosophy
That's what I have a degree in, but I'm sure others here might too. The reason I didn't give out specific criticism to specific posts is because I showed up 120+ comments deep and 110 of them needed to be addressed. This isn't necessarily for technical errors (like falsely paraphrasing a particular philosopher/y), but the general embarrassing pseudo-intellectual discussion

>>74297837
It just does, for some weird reason. At least that's how I live and it works well for me.

>>74297756
Lmao fat chance fag

>>74297785
Going off of personal experience, the reason fat and lazy people are suffering is because they made fucking stupid life choices (like getting fat and being lazy). At least we have the body positivity movement to tell people that being fat (and, by proxy, not caring about your health/self-image) is ok! :~)

>>74297858
They're literally conflicting ideologies you moron. They can't work together

>>74297855
Would you mind posting your obscurity score for me please? >>74287549
I want to see if, going by your logic regarding philosophy on /mu/, you are doing the right thing by posting on /mu/. Just as a fun experiment.

>>74297872
I already have testimonies telling me that they hated me and now they don't because they have seen the truth in me 8^)

>>74297891
Correct, but it still works. You don't have to be a stoic and a hedonist all the time at the same time, you can be both depending on the situation.

>>74297855
Actually, ignore this >>74297903
Would you mind telling me your 10 favorite albums please?

>>74294998
>>>/pol/
cringe

>>74297903
Okay ugly

>>74295435
Read Heidegger's What Is Metaphysics and On the Essence of Truth essays; he kind of brings Camus and Watts together

>>74295689
Read Nietzsche for the post 14 year old version of what you're feeling here.

You're also sorely misreading Trent if you think that's what TDS is about. Try Dostoevsky's Crime and Punishment and Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals if you want to know what Trent's getting at

>>74297855
The premise of this thread was to post your favorite artist, and your personal philosophy. Assuming that idea behind that was to correlate these two things (favorite artists and personal philosophy) - It's entirely organic and expected that a conversation about philosophy came out of this thread.

>look at these comments
I am not educated in Philosophy. I'm a journalist. But I'm enjoying the conversation here. I haven't been commenting until now but to the layman this thread so far has been pretty informative - to someone like me. I'm not embarrassed by the content of this thread existing on /mu/ because I'm not educated enough to be understand why it's awful.

>showed up 120+ comments deep
That is completely fair. It is unreasonable to expect you would go through the effort of even beginning to address some of the issues in this thread given your education.

>>74295689
Dude puberty is hard isnt it

>>74297855
>>74298024
Idk who those two other replies where, they aren't me. I just replied just now.

Not the first time tripcodes could have been useful. But I refuse to use one out of principle.

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>>74295689
>mfw people are actually taking this post seriously

>>74295719
You would like the Stoics; try Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius

>>74295724
To me at least the flaw with pure existential philosophies is that they help individuals but never create systems that work at a political or communal level.

How does the Knight of Infinite Resignation deal with other Knights?

>>74295784
Mishima is like your God-King dude, start with the Gold Pavilion and read his other stuff. Nietzsche was also a kissless virgin.

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>God is real
>People should spread word of his undying love for people, not his judgement or wrath
>Your life is too small to worry about things way bigger than you are.
>Be nice to one another.

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>>74297604
>Classical Liberalism
respect re-earned

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Satanism. The hard kind, not the gay reddit-tier "everyone just leave each other alone :^)" Laveyan kind.

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Currently, Pile's A Hairshirt of Purpose. I consider myself a postive nihilist, meaning nothing is important, so why is it important that nothing is important?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A43MiChouN0

>>74298139
Thats a religion anon

>>74298121
don't answer me is such a great spector homage

>>74297604
>Utilitarianism

For as much as I disapprove of your obscurity equation threads (Despite having participated and contributed towards its improvement), I relate all too much to your lifestyle, ethics, and politics.

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drugs are like cheat codes. the game isn't as fun after you've tried them all and used them too much, and you can't really get back into the game unless you restart. sucks that you can't restart life.

>>74298068
it's so absurd that it's more than likely someone on this Burmese rat catcher forum is more than likely to believe this.

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>>74298139

>>74297876
I think you should really look into psychology. I think your stance is very black and white.

Life is not a summation of these differences. You sound like a privileged person, the way you say these things. The only people I know in life that criticize others the way that you do have had very little hardships themselves.

Life is more contextual than you realize. "the only reason they suffer is because they make stupid decisions". It's not that simple. They make bad decisions because they are have thought patterns that encourage bad decision making. They have habits of making bad decisions. This is very complicated material here. For someone to get into a habit of making bad decisions for themselves, we are talking about constant self-sabotage. This is a mode of being that does not form naturally. There is an imbalance at play. These people had developmental problems, environmental problems, that they are not being taught how to deal with in their adult lives.

It's a bloody tragedy, and it's awful and ugly. Have sympathy and empathy for these people. Don't be a cunt. You sound like a privileged teenager that likes to watch fox news with your dad.

Grow up and realize the world and those in it are more complicated than you realize.

>>74295435
what album did you listen to cause it sure wasn't atrocity exhibition.

The entire album is about how substance abuse is destroying him physically and mentally. Substance abuse isn't that bad if you can control it but the mental issues you get from knowing that you are trying to stop abusing drugs but just can't is a level of dread he does not wish on anybody.

>>74298167

Is it?

I consider it a different meta since it represents the freedom to betray or abandon values at will. I'm not particularly bound by anything.

>>74298126
damn, awesome, i had no idea you would be one

>>74298171
Maybe I was right all along anon. It's only a matter of time until you see the light.
By the way, I forgot to add
>religion
Atheism
Anything else you think should have been added?

>>74298173
You can though, just pick up and go. Walk or run or fly somewhere no ones knows you. Start over and stay clean

>>74298199
>Atheism
The bran flakes of religion

>>74298199

I'm agnostic, so I can half-identify with that. Also favorite book. I find that someone's favorite book tells you a lot about them, especially if it's a "classic" book. For example mine is Brave New World by Huxley.

>>74295630
Thanks, I've been meaning to get into Brel. I'm a big fan of Gainsbourg

>>74295706
:)

>>74297919
No order

Built To Spill - Perfect From Now On
The Wrens - Meadowlands
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Moanin
The Strokes - Is This It
Pixies - Doolittle
Sufjan Stevens - Illinois
Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
Joanna Newsom - Ys
Nas - Illmatic
Modest Mouse - The Lonesome Crowded West

>>74298240
Personally im partial to Frankenstein

>>74298024
I'll admit that they've been getting progressively better but the first 50 or so made me want to kill myself. People have been slowly getting called out and corrected by the more rational/educated

>The universe is absurd and making sense of it is impossible. But I've moved past nihilism and I just enjoy being part of enormous beautiful meaningless mess of life and consciousness and I'm grateful for my time here and try to appreciate every second of it.
This one is completely irredeemable though

>>74295488
When did I say I'm smart? I just answered the question honestly
>>74295815
I literally take psychedelics with the express purpose of getting spiritual gratification, that is by definition an entheogen. That's not to say I never eat shrooms just to have fun tho.
>>74296234
Literally the only person I've ever discussed camus with is the guy who showed him to me in the first place. I'm assuming you think I misunderstood camus because I use drugs to cope with absurdism instead of embracing the absurd? I said I enjoy camus not that I completely agree with him (what would be the point of philosophy if you just blindly agreed).
>>74297630
Legalized prostitution makes human trafficking unprofitable. Who would go to an illegal back alley hooker and get aids instead of a brothel with girls that are tested? Unless you are into kids or something but I obviously wasn't implying that is ok

>>74298197
You are a human being living on planet Earth. Wether you like it or not, wether you're aware of it or not, you are always bound to something. Free will is a fallacy. Freedom of choice is real but limited. You are nothing but a reaction in a set of reactions. Everything is determined and we cannot know how, or why, its course or lack thereof. You are defined by geography, mental chemistry, environment, education, wealth, family history, racial and genetic make up, government, personal philosphies, inherent flaws and virtues, time period, random chance. You are bound to everything, and you can never break free. You can only accept that you will never be free.

>>74298215
thanks, anon. it's been a while since I considered that, but I'm not really emotionally tethered to anyone anymore, so it might be time.

>>74298240
Yeah, but that's not really related to personal philosophy. I don't have a favorite book, I don't read that much.

>>74298243
>complains about /mu/ not knowing shit about philosphy
>get's an obscurity score of 20% (80% of /mu/ knows more about music than you).
lmao
Maybe those anons shouldn't have posted about philosophy here, but you shouldn't have posted here on /mu/ either if we are going to apply the same logic you used to them with you.

>>74298322
pretty much this desu

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I ain't afraid of no ghosts.

>>74298338
The two arent even related idiot

>>74298187
well, you're half right
I'm 19, and my dad does watch fox news, but it's a complete load of shit.

I'm well aware that life is full of complications, but I guess my personal bias and being incredibly judgy doesn't demonstrate that I know that very well. I know that there are sometimes mitigating circumstances with things like being fat and shit, but I still find myself hating people a lot. Idk yo

>>74298401
huh?

>>74298322
OK.

I'm still a Satanist and I admit that.

>>74294572
The Residents - Not Available

Closest to solipsism. I'm not actually personally solipsistic, but for the longest time my philosophy was to live life radically codifying truth independent from interpretation ala Principia mathematica. But just like that, it is impossible to do.

Our minds interpret the environment in every decision, and thoughts due to genetic predispositions and cultural/learned leanings and simple limitation truth becomes degenerated once it becomes perceived. So any attempt to describe truth has to come from a degeneration of truth through thought, and that is folly since you can't reliably make comparisions with a broken instrument.

So the main philosophy is to disregard the mind completely and know that literally nothing I think or perceive is verifiable truth. Lowering the veil as much may be important, but you can't know when you have so there's no point.

>>74298420
I mean you are trying to tie musical taste into his philosophical arguments. He may have shit taste but his points are still valid

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>>74298199
yesir! my post is >>74295630 here btw

also about your response that i missed, yea that's sanic lol. we have a lot in common in regards to music taste but yea that's not me

also i do not have a discord but i've been meaning to get into it; definitely seems better than the shithouse that it skype. i pretty much talk to e-friends just on facebook (not that facebook is any good let alone better, but) these days

>>74298423
And that's perfectly fine, I just wanted to make the point that true freedom is impossible, as it is also partially defined by being restrained in the first place. Continue with whatever makes you feel fulfilled, anon.

>>74298305
That post seems like someone took acid once, and now they understand it all.

>>74298479
I wasn't claiming that nothing had any influence on me anyway. I was saying that I didn't actually have a codified religion that was going to make my choices for me.

Satanism is chaos.

>>74298338
Do you honestly deny an album's emotional significance because it's not obscure enough for you? If I made 10 albums myself, never released them, and claimed they were my 10 favorite albums, would I have more patrician taste than you? Each album in my top 10 isn't objectively better than every other album, they're just the 10 that mean the most to me. I first listened to Is This It in 6th grade, and it was the first album that got me into music - now every aspect of my life is based around music and I credit that to The Strokes. It could've been any other band, but for me it was Is This It. Turn On The Bright Lights was made by a bunch of NYU kids about being lonely in New York - I went to NYU and was lonely a lot of the time, but I connected heavily with the experiences Interpol talked about. The list goes on. Music isn't a competition

>>74298446
No, I'm not doing that.
1) He complains about /mu/users not knowing shit about philosphy (true or not, doesn't matter)
2) He concludes from this that they shouln't post about philosphy on here (because they lack the knowledge to do so)
3) He then posts his favorite albums, from which I calculated his obscurity score
4) Turns out he doesn't know shit about music
5) Therefore, judging by his own logic, he shouldn't post on /mu/ because he lacks the knowledge to do so.

>>74298472
nice quote above, I can relate to that
>we have a lot in common in regards to music taste but yea that's not me
Yeah, I was just messaging a bunch of tripfriends on RYM and I mixed you with him lol

>also i do not have a discord but i've been meaning to get into it; definitely seems better than the shithouse that it skype
ABSOLUTELY. I fucking HATE the piece of shit that's Skype. Discord on the other hand has been a godsend. It's top tier comfy when it comes to chatting. You should definitely get one. Feel free to add me once you do!

>>74298497
What exactly is your brand of Satanism, if it isn't LaVeyan? How do you practice it? Pardon my ignorance.

>>74298510
Who the hell died and made you king of musical taste

>>74298500
>Do you honestly deny an album's emotional significance because it's not obscure enough for you?
No.
>If I made 10 albums myself, never released them, and claimed they were my 10 favorite albums, would I have more patrician taste than you?
If you were being honest and those were actually your 10 favorite albums, then yeah, you would be patrician as fuck (and an amazing musician as well). But we know this will never happen, so why bother...
>Each album in my top 10 isn't objectively better than every other album, they're just the 10 that mean the most to me.
Correct, and it's obvious from seeing your top 10 that you don't know shit about music.
>I first listened to Is This It in 6th grade, and it was the first album that got me into music - now every aspect of my life is based around music and I credit that to The Strokes.
So, you are telling me that you haven't developed musically since you were in 6th grade? fucking lol
>Music isn't a competition
Feel free to like what you like, I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy of what you said regarding /mu/ users posting about philosophy (because the same applies to you talking about music).
But hey, listen to what you like, just lurk more before posting on /mu/ again, thanks.

>>74298520
Mathematics.

>>74298520
katie the cat

>>74298513
Your ignorance doesn't need to be pardoned. I'm ignorant of it as well.

It's the "religion" of the animal. It doesn't work by civilized methods. I might decide something one day and the opposite another. If someone tells me that I'm being self-contradictory, what does it actually matter?

>>74298550
Yes bu maths has no place in musical taste. People relate differently to albums than you. Some enjoy albums id find trash. That doesnt make it trash, just to me I wouldnt find enjoyment

>>74298561
>If someone tells me that I'm being self-contradictory, what does it actually matter?
Personally, I hate this, but conceptually, that's awesome.

>>74298566
>Yes bu maths has no place in musical taste
It does when you can tell from their favorite artists with high accuracy that they haven't listened to much music, therefore they lack musical knowledge.
good taste =/= listening to good music

>>74298561
so satanism, defined by you at least, is a kind of free-for-all anarchism of virtue? Does it simply sway one way or the other based on feeling and instinct? It sounds deeply individualistic, since in a group this would probably create conflict. So, no worship of anything, no moral code of any kind? If so, it sounds like amoral nihilism, only with the satanist brand attached to it. How'd you come to be a Satanist?

>>74298550
"This thing that I completely made up should be the new standard for everyone on /mu/ to live up to"

I'm not anyone that you've been talking to, but seriously fuck off with your "obscurity score" bullshit.

>>74298510
Your logic is flawed. We're on a music board. Therefore any musical discussion (obscure or not) is relevant. If I came /mu/ and gave the most insightful analysis of Kant's Categorical Imperative, it wouldn't be relevant because it's about not about music. The same would be true if you went to a philosophy forum and told them you had the highest obscurity score possible. This board is for musical discussion, not psuedo-intellectual grandstanding

>>74298590
Once again you are making the subjective claim that the artists you dont like are bad. Wow I mean you were a cunt in charts all the time but these days you take the cake buddy

>>74298628

Based BoC tripfag

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>>74298611
>Does it simply sway one way or the other based on feeling and instinct?

Probably. Though, being the person that I am, I have a certain range of feelings and instincts. You could say that my religion is me.

> it sounds like amoral nihilism, only with the satanist brand attached to it. How'd you come to be a Satanist?

Satan is a good meme. I could technically portray my personal philosophy as being godlike, but Satan is the more relevant symbol for my style and culture.

>>74298407
Having a frame of reference can sometimes be everything.

People in retail and food service say this all the time - "people should be forced to work for a year in this industry before becoming adults". The people that treat waiters badly or treat anyone serving them badly, they generally have never had a job being a servant. It's a frame of reference they don't have, so they can't empathize with the person infront of them.

For most people, there are no "mitigating cirumstances". They have just as much capability at righting themselves as you do - they just weren't taught healthy habits. They got themselves into a habit of making bad decisions, self-destructive decisions. As you get older and life gets much more complicated, all the sudden these bad decisions really start to stack up and they become these impossible monsters to deal with.

It's their own fault, but they need help, the last thing they need is to be looked down upon. They were never taught how to properly achieve goals and manage problems in their lives.

Also, it's okay to think most people suck. They do. Most people really, really, really suck. But most people aren't malicious. They aren't blowing up sports stadiums or purposefully causing harm to others. They are just not as self-aware or themselves and their surroundings as others, this is not something within their control. They suck yes, but it is not entirely their fault. Be an example, and possibly, just maybe, you will show one or two of them how to properly behave.

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>>74298510
have you had any luck with messaging old trips? you in a groupchat of sorts?

but yea skype is horrendous. god i miss the aim/msn days lol

>>74298621
The obscurity score is perfect. It accurately tells people if they should make an effort to explore more music before posting, in other words, if they should lurk more.

>>74298625
So, you would be okay with all these users here posting all this low quality philosophy crap in a philosophy board (assuming there were one)?

>This board is for musical discussion, not psuedo-intellectual grandstanding
Yeah, but some musical knowledge should be required before posting on here.

>>74298628
>Once again you are making the subjective claim that the artists you dont like are bad.
I haven never made such a claim. Are you high?

>Wow I mean you were a cunt in charts all the time but these days you take the cake buddy
True, I plan to tone it down soon, just not yet.

>>74298637
>based
>BoC
>tripfag
All three are mutually exclusive anon. It's a double oxymoron!

>>74298654
Sounds pretty good to me. Gotta commend you on originality, and in not giving much of a fuck about society`s restraints. Soldier on, hail Lucifer.

>>74298687
>have you had any luck with messaging old trips? you in a groupchat of sorts?
Yes and yes. Chat is not very active though (we aren't many), but this should change as time passes by as we get more users. We still have to message a bunch of other users.

>>74298692
Yeah except you literally pulled the idea of obscurity scores out of your ass. Not to mention using obscurity as a frame for quality is so highly flawed it ridiculous

>>74298722
>Yeah except you literally pulled the idea of obscurity scores out of your ass.
Well, this time it was because of the argument made by my anon friend above who claimed "you should not post about X if you don't have enough knowledge on X". Maybe I interpreted him wrong (i dont know yet, still waiting for a clarification), but if I'm not wrong then the score is absolutely necessary.
>Not to mention using obscurity as a frame for quality is so highly flawed it ridiculous
You guys are getting this wrong all the time. It's not good because it's obscure, it's good because despite being obscure it managed to get into your favorite albums of all time, meaning it defeated more popular albums against all odds.

>>74298550
>then yeah, you would be patrician as fuck
Bait harder
>it's obvious from seeing your top 10 that you don't know shit about music
I know you're trolling from this post now, but post your top 10. I'm curious
>you are telling me that you haven't developed musically since you were in 6th grade
Nope. Just that Is This It will always be one of my favorite albums because of how much it impacted me then and now
> I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy of what you said regarding /mu/ users posting about philosophy (because the same applies to you talking about music)
See my other comment >>74298625

>>74298692
>you would be okay with all these users here posting all this low quality philosophy crap in a philosophy board
Yes, the point of a philosophy board is to discuss philosophy. The point of a music board is to discuss music. How do you not understand this concept?
>some musical knowledge should be required before posting on here
Key word = "some". Not saying I have the most patrician taste (I would still love to hear your to 10), but by the mere act of having a top 10, I intrinsically have SOME knowledge. Thus, in accordance with your own requirements, I'm allowed to post here. Thanks for the permission bro

>>74298759
Jesus christ drop your pseudo intellectual bullshit. This is 4chan for christs sake. People on mu discuss literal memes all day, dont act high brow. You could literally go to a thousand other places to discuss music in the sense you want

>>74298692
No. The obscurity score is absolutely fucking stupid. You realize you're basing it off of people's top 10 albums, right? I've listened to a shit ton of obscure shit from the 60s and 70s that I've enjoyed very much, but none of it is going to be on my top 10. Judging people's knowledge of music based on how popular their favorite music is is fucking stupid and pretentious as hell. Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe some things are popular because they're actually good? Pull your head out of your ass, you insufferable cunt.

>>74298769
>Bait harder
How is it bait? If they actually end up being your favorites then the music must be great, right?

>I know you're trolling from this post now, but post your top 10. I'm curious
I'm not in the slightest. I know you are new to /mu/, so I repeat, you should lurk more.
Here is my top 10 by the way.
1. The Books - The Lemon of Pink (2003)
2. Cardiacs - Sing to God (1996)
3. Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
4. Tipographica - God Says I Can't Dance
5. World's End Girlfriend - Seven Idiots
6. Koenjihyakkei - Angherr Shisspa
7. IOSYS - Whoa! Hyper Denpa-chan
8. Various Artists - The Sounds of Earth
9. Venetian Snares - Songs About My Cats
10. Henry Cow - In Praise of Learning

>Nope. Just that Is This It will always be one of my favorite albums because of how much it impacted me then and now
That's fine, but all your other favorites are still very popular albums, meaning you never really explored music beyond the most popular stuff there is.

>Yes, the point of a philosophy board is to discuss philosophy. The point of a music board is to discuss music. How do you not understand this concept?
Fair enough. I regret what I said regarding your hypocrisy. I interpreted what you said in a different way.

>Key word = "some". Not saying I have the most patrician taste (I would still love to hear your to 10), but by the mere act of having a top 10, I intrinsically have SOME knowledge. Thus, in accordance with your own requirements, I'm allowed to post here. Thanks for the permission bro
Well, I didn't expect you to take the "some" so literally (some as in literally not nothing), but it was kind of funny so you get a pass for that.

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>>74298843
>Captain Beefheart
>Cardiacs
Holy shit dude

>>74298803
>People on mu discuss literal memes all day
Yeah, do you understand why I'm doing this now? Fuck /mu/ and their never-ending chat about the same one hundred artists every day.

>You could literally go to a thousand other places to discuss music in the sense you want
That's the worst part, that /mu/, being such a shitty place, is the least bad alternative. And trust me I have searched for all kinds of communities. From Reddit to public forums to genre forums to private forums etc. /mu/ remains the best so I want to take care for it.

>>74298817
>You realize you're basing it off of people's top 10 albums, right?
Correct.
>I've listened to a shit ton of obscure shit from the 60s and 70s that I've enjoyed very much, but none of it is going to be on my top 10.
Sorry to tell you this, but you don't actually listen to obscure shit if your top 10 are a bunch of popular albums. That doesn't happen.

>Judging people's knowledge of music based on how popular their favorite music is is fucking stupid and pretentious as hell.
But it's accurate to tell how knowledgeable they are about music.

>Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe some things are popular because they're actually good?
Yeah, I too love Justin Bieber and Suavecito, way to go!

>>74298866
What's wrong?

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>>74298880
Youre ragging on people over popular music. Those two albums I see discussed very often, and TMR is Mucore which you claim is horrible btw. Oh and thats not even close to the best Venetian Snares album btw :))

>>74298900
>Youre ragging on people over popular music.
Only if they listen to popular music almost exclusively (something I don't).
>TMR is Mucore
Correct.
>which you claim is horrible btw
Never did I make such a claim.
>Oh and thats not even close to the best Venetian Snares album btw :))
Best Venetian Snares is Doll actually, but I don't like it very much. My favorite is still Songs About My Cats.

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>>74294572
I am ready.

>>74298900
As a hopefully helpful analogy, claiming that I don't want to eat pizza every day is not the same as saying I don't like pizza, just like how claiming I don't like /mu/ talking about the same hundred artists every day does it mean all of those artists are bad.

>>74298928
Are you kidding, in chart threads you shit on Mucore and anyone who listens to anything remotely mucore. Also correct on Doll, you a fan of Find Candice? I really enjoy at as a companion ep

>>74298951
I agree with you on that point but dude, its 4chan. No one here cares enough to change, also its summer. Discussion always improves after summer somewhat

>>74298938
*heavy breathing*
That's a good son. Now relax. heh heh heh hehhh

>>74298953
>in chart threads you shit on Mucore and anyone who listens to anything remotely mucore
Only if they listen to /mu/core almost exclusively. You can see on previous chart threads that I label some charts as good, even if they have /mu/core on them. Why? Because their charts are not exclusively /mu/core and actually have some taste on it.

>Also correct on Doll, you a fan of Find Candice?
I'm not a fan of either, I just believe it's his most artistic work.

>>74298970
>I agree with you on that point but dude
Thank god because that's what I have been arguing about all the day.
>No one here cares enough to change
Some people do, they have told me this, you just have to help them find their way.
>Discussion always improves after summer somewhat
In my experience, discussion is worse year by year.

>>74298880
>>74298817

>Gandalf
>The Sundowners
>Kak
>Bubble Puppy
>Time
>The Human Beast
>Silver Penis
>Grapefruit
>Ruby
>The Peppermint Trolley Co.
>Sagittarius
>Gun
>Three Man Army
>Morgen
>Sweet Smoke
>Sugarcreek

>>74298843
>Trout Mask Replica in a top 10
lmao

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>>74298843
>Cardiacs - Sing to God
todd rundgren did it better 20 years prior but i really need to give that a relisten. dog like sparky's a pretty cool song

what do you think of guided by voices

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>Moments are more valuable than gold, because unlike currency, moments can not be acquired again nor can more be made.
>Only through isolation and pain can someone find their true happiness
>always examine yourself, and your actions from an outside observers point of view

>>74298843
>If they actually end up being your favorites then the music must be great, right?
So then my original top 10 must be great too, they're my favorites after all. Before you claimed obscurity determines greatness, now you're saying being my favorite determines it. Pick one. Do you know what logic is?
>I know you are new to /mu/
I've been here for 1.5 years so potentially still new relative to you
>Here is my top 10
Great. I think TMR is super overrated, but I respect your right to place it in your top 10, even if it isn't very obscure
>all your other favorites are still very popular albums, meaning you never really explored music beyond the most popular stuff there is
Do you always rely on incorrect assumptions? I listen to and like plenty of obscure albums, but none of them made it in to my top 10 because the other ones meant more to me. See >>74298817
> I regret what I said regarding your hypocrisy
Either generally poor reading comprehension, or you're just pretending to have misinterpreted what I said earlier. Either way, glad to see logic doesn't completely elude you
>I didn't expect you to take the "some" so literally (some as in literally not nothing), but it was kind of funny so you get a pass for that
Again, glad to see logic doesn't completely elude you. You should try using whatever amount you have before you post next time. It'll save you some trouble

>>74299006
Of course the discussion is worse though, I mean the boards lost its entire identity. Also no moderation means constant spam so that doesnt help either

>>74299007
huh?

>>74299011
I love Todd Rundgren, and he kind of did a similar thing before Cardiacs did, but Cardiacs is something magical for me. Songs like Manhoo and Fiery Gun Hand are some of the best (not just favorites) songs ever. Why? Because of the innovative chorus of the first one, and the guitar solo of the second one (and the "raining/falling" keyboards too).

>what do you think of guided by voices
Haven't listened to them. If my instinct judges me well, they are an average indie rock band. Did they actually do anything original?

>>74299043
I guess so...

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>>74297604
>sharing a board with people who are literally walking memes

>>74299038
>So then my original top 10 must be great too, they're my favorites after all.
No, because if you actually bothered to listen to obscure music you wouldn't have so many popular albums on there. If you listened to more obscure music some would inevitably become favorites, but we know this hasn't happened because you don't actually explore about music beyond the most popular stuff.
>Before you claimed obscurity determines greatness, now you're saying being my favorite determines it. Pick one. Do you know what logic is?
I claimed obscure albums can only be considered good if they end up being your favorites. The same can't be said about popular albums because that's what most people listen to without necessarily having explored obscure music. The perfect way to discern good music from bad would be to give every album in the world an equal chance, something that doesn't happen when you only listen to popular stuff.
>I've been here for 1.5 years
I'm sorry to hear that.
>Great. I think TMR is super overrated, but I respect your right to place it in your top 10, even if it isn't very obscure
The point is not that it's bad to have some popular albums in your favorites, it's bad when almost all your favorites are popular because it means you haven't explored music beyond the most popular stuff.
>I listen to and like plenty of obscure albums
I don't believe that. Tell me what were the last ten albums you listened to. No cheating, otherwise you would be proving me right.
>Either generally poor reading comprehension, or you're just pretending to have misinterpreted what I said earlier.
It was easy to interpret your post both ways, so there is no need to call me out on bad reading comprehension.

>>74299101
>said anon while reposting the same old image like a thousands anons did before him
Way to go lol

>>74294843
OVERTHINKING
OVER-ANALYZING
SEPARATES THE BODY FROM THE MIND

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balance work and leisure, never stay on one for too long

>>74299133
The only thing you deserve is a response as generic as they come.

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> ancom
> veganism
> environmentalism
My heros are Emma Goldman and peter kropotkin

>>74299052
>Sorry to tell you this, but you don't actually listen to obscure shit if your top 10 are a bunch of popular albums. That doesn't happen.

my top 10:

Bankrupt! by Phoenix
A Black Mile To The Surface by Manchester Orchestra
Gandalf by Gandalf
Hope by Manchester Orchestra
Currents by Tame Impala
It's Never Been Like That by Phoenix
I'm Like A Virgin Losing A Child by Manchester Orchestra
Captain Nemo by the Sundowners
Bigger, Better, Faster, More! by 4 Non Blondes
Time by Electric Light Orchestra

A list of the obscure shit I was talking about:
>>74299007

also, if you actually enjoy Trout Mask Replica, you should probably just stop breathing

>>74299160
Nice cop out.

>>74298843
when did the books surpass cardiacs for you?

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Don't be a dick, look out for others but also make time to look out for yourself.

>>74299244
About a year ago, when I decided to "scientifically" rate all my favorite albums. The result was almost a tie with The Books winning with 49 points while Cardiacs got 48. My two next favorite albums have 24 and 23 by the way.

>>74299182
Yeah, it's not surprising anyone would listen to obscure stuff in their life, but you obviously don't listen to obscure artists on the regular. Just tell me your ten last listened to albums if you don't believe me.

Also
>enjoy TMR
>bad
Said the guy with Tame Impala, ELO, and Phoenix in their favorites lol

>>74299294
Cringe

>>74299294
>ELO
>bad

Fucking tripfags

>>74299294
glad to know that you know how my listening habits work, boyo

Can you tell me my mother's maiden name too?

>>74299333
>refuses to post his last ten albums listened
Thanks for proving me right.

>>74299133
I'm not going to bother responding to each individual point.
You know that popularity doesn't make things bad, right? This is a very simple concept, but it seems to be entirely lost on you. Let me just make it clear for you popularity =/= bad
>it's bad when almost all your favorites are popular because it means you haven't explored music beyond the most popular stuff
Or simply that my some of my favorite albums happen to be popular. The underlying assumption in your statement is that I like said albums BECAUSE of their popularity, when in fact I like them because of the music. If no one had ever heard of Is This It except me, it would still be in my top 10. It's also important to note that popularity isn't black and white, it's on a spectrum
>Tell me what were the last ten albums you listened to. No cheating
I work in the music industry so I listen to random, terrible (sometimes great) albums all the time
DED - Mis.An.Thrope
The Roots - Things Fall Apart
Red House Painters - Down Colorful Hill
SWMRS - Drive North
Dua Lipa - Dua Lipa
Shaman's Harvest - Red Hands Black Deeds
Vince Staples - Big Fish Theory
The Wrens - Meadowlands
Those are the last ones I can remember. Again, it doesn't mean that I haven't heard obscure stuff. I use to listen to local demos all the time - none of them made it into my top 10

The take away for you should be "popularity does not equal bad". I want you to say that to yourself 10 times a day for the next 2 months. And honestly man, if you base your whole taste around obscurity then you'll never be satisfied with music. You'll just keep being bitter towards other people's interest. You don't need that kind of stress in your life my dude

>>74299371
ye sure

I listen to different things for different moods. I go back down the rabbit hole of obscure shit when I'm bored as hell and actually have the time to. Lemme know if you find out how to balance that with trying to get everything ready to move to a different town, looking for a new job, a 60 hour work week, trying to maintain friendships with my very little time I have at home, etc.

What I need right now is stuff that I'm comfortable with, not musical russian roulette.

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>>74295435
>Albert Camus
>Nihilism
At least read The Myth of Sisyphus and The Rebel, before you write stuff like this again.

Personal Philosophy:
My meaning of life is to experience and to ponder about the experience/possible experience. Doesn't mean you can do whatever you want, and "Drugs are okay guys, it's about experience!". Just means that as long as there is something out there, and there always is, be it a book that you're interested in, or an album you heard about, you can choose or deny it. Both decisions will let you experience different things, different feelings, and that will give you growth, no matter how shallow it is. But the "ponder about stuff" is important. Don't be a drone, and think about your decisions, before and after.
That's about it.

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ELO is great fuck this nigger

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https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/2jn69p/my_name_is_not_important_what_is_important_is/

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The fact that you made this post containing zero reasons as to why what they are saying is wrong shows that even if they are teenagers, you are definitely more immature than all of them.

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My eyes eat light, my mouth eats food, my nostrils smell, ears drum sounds, holes in the sky eat stars, I am a hunger which knows it is hungry and which is aware of hunger, but furthermore a hunger with the awareness that shall it eat, it shall digest and excrete. I am that process as well, and thus is all which I or you may perceive. It's easier to presume that you are also a hunger so privileged. Social ills are not worth addressing, for a hunger can not cure a hunger, only transform it into a hunger which is not aware, does not know it is itself hunger. If there is hunger, then there is also the hope in the knowledge and awareness that a hunger can be delayed, treated, that a man can eat if merely because such a man by definition must have eaten before, perhaps not as man or in such a form. And I can live with that.

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Do whatever the fuck makes you happy as long as it doesn't interfere with other peoples happyness.

Who will cut our hair when we're gone?

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I'm an optimist.

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Give as much love as I can and make myself and other people happy, avoid stressing too much.

We briefly looked at consciousness in a course I did and I've thought about it a lot, but I don't really think its a personal philosophy.