Convince me that hip hop is worth listening to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq8mGJc5xQE

skip to 4:30

>>74291496
it's not

>>74291496
pre 2001 some is. post 2001 is propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fEnTj2GNlU

>>74291496
Convince me that it isn't.

>>74291496
mf doom is probably gonna be the easiest to get into. listen to rapp snitch knishes. catchy. now download the mm food album. read the lyrics as you go. doom was very good weaving his rhymes. if you cant dig mm food with the concept of food, you probably will have to go with some shit rap before just to dip your toes in.

>>74291554
If you're white it isn't. There may be a few lapses of genuine literary flair in the lyrics, but ultimately it's pretty anti-intellectual and rarely interesting compositionally. If you're black, it might fill you with comfort to hear you fellow men (and women) to talk jive in a way that masquerades as being anything more than pedestrian (i.e. the "poetry of the streets" garbage), but there's no benefit if you're a white man unless you feel guilty about the crimes of your ancestors and feel a need to pay reparations even in a discreet manner like supporting untalented black musicians.

here's a thing to take in mind
do you like music?
well you're not gonna like rap
the enjoyment of rap comes from words and rhyme no musical aspect of musical practice
so its not gonna be music, dont treat it like that.

>>74291512
the peak of sound as we know it

>>74291513
this, but unironically.

>>74291669
>If you're depressed it isn't. There may be a few lapses of genuine literary flair in the lyrics, but ultimately it's unapologetically plebeian and really interesting compositionally. If you're not a complete ass, it might fill you with comfort to hear you fellow men (and women) to talk about whatever they want in a way that sounds cool and is fun to listen to, but there's no benefit if you're a tightass unless you feel guilty about the crimes of your ancestors and feel a need to pay reparations even in a discreet manner like supporting modern musicians who are quite happy with le this generation.

>>74291496
it'll put hair on your chest. now stop being a nu male and go listen to some guwop.

>>74291963
W O P

>>74291496
If you like hip hop, hip hop is worth listening to. It's an undeniable fact.

>>74291669
jesus christ

>>74291963
Anon, theres nothing more numale then listening to nigger porno

>>74291919
>"ayo nigga smoke this blunt and count dis money no'm sayin'? da wyte man made all our problems an' sheeiitt"
>cool and fun to listen to
Even Illmatic, which is supposed to be the crowning achievement of the genre, is still just a showcase for the worst aspects of black culture. Show me something genuinely "cool and fun to listen to" and I might change my mind.

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>>74292025
>Listening to music for "fun" instead of enlightenment
Damn nigga, the fuck is wrong witchu

>>74291792
>no musical aspect
>implying the beat has no impact on a rap song

>>74292050
I listen to plenty of music for enlightenment purposes. Hip hop just clearly isn't capable of that, so I'm looking for something that's at least fun and enjoyable instead of your usual white guilt garbage at the very least.

>>74292025
>>"ayo girl smoke this joint and make love, brah? da government man made all our problems an' sheeiitt"
>>cool and fun to listen to
>Even Sgt. Pepper, which is supposed to be the crowning achievement of the genre, is still just a showcase for the worst aspects of white culture. Show me something genuinely "cool and fun to listen to" and I might change my mind.

>>74291669
I'm not convinced at all, try again.

>>74292025
get off of pol man not everything is about race

>>74292086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc9qJS-GG-c

>>74292119
oh, but it is.

>>74292025
>da wyte man made all our problems an' sheeiitt
this is like saying rock music is all about "sticking it to the man". it's usually not.
I've never listened to Nas.
Tell me Wu Tang 36 Chambers isn't great

>>74292119
Nearly everything in hip hop has to be though. I'm not a /pol/ user anyway. They're mostly retards who are just the white version of what I dislike about hip hop.

>>74292086
Progfag here, my friend tried to convince me to get into rap once, he showed me "Dance with the Devil by Immortal Technique". I swear to god that is the funniest shit in the world. I listen to it on occasion, for the laffs.
https://youtu.be/LdRPKhPHln8

>>74292095
>>74292119

>t. nigger

>>74292197
he thinks all hiphop is about race

>>74292191
I've listened to that one as well and I'll admit it has some interesting ideas, both musically and lyrically, but I still can't get over the fact that the music promotes crime and violence in the hood so fervently.

>>74292203
This is like showing someone NOFX as an intro to rock music

>>74292220
The only real exception I can think of is trap rap and other rap-influenced party music, and all of that is complete irredeemable trash.

>>74292231
What's wrong with the fervent promotion of it? I mean, if the lyrics are at least interesting and they work well with the beat, and help you picture a lifestyle you haven't lived, then it's good. If those types of lyrics don't interest you then there's nothing you can really do for that type of hip-hop. Listen to Madvillainy maybe.

>>74292231
How in the fuck does 36 Chambers promote crime? Did you not listen to Tearz? Can It Be All So Simple? The skit before 7th Chamber? Deck's verse on C.R.E.A.M? Reality of life in the hood is being surrounded by crime, death, and drugs, acknowledging that isn't glorifying it.

>>74292231
it is a reaction to crime and violence maybe you didn't listen closely...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGVFDkKGmOs
maybe you're just looking for something to be upset about?

>>74292239
I dont give a shit about violence and whatnot, what gets me is that its subtle as a bulldozer and unbelievable as all fuck, it had a M Night Shamalan twist, gets me everytime