/classical/

In USSR conservatory, instrument plays you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5rX2NjR86I

>>74281364
>open your music player
>put it in random mode
>Post the ten first pieces. NO CHEATS

>>74281499
>having a dedicated music player instead of a 3000 video playlist on youtube

>>74281603
>youtube
kek

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUruIjvHsKw

>Schoenberg underrater tries to start his own thread
>Gets 0 replies
What was meant by this?

>>74281499
John Taverner - Gloria tibi Trinitas - Benedictus.
Ars Nova Copenhagen Taverner and Tudor Music II

>>74281499
>>74282015
Oh shit 10 pieces. here's the next 9:
Gloria (Missa L'homme armé) - Josquin, Missa L'homme armé (Jeremy Summerly; Oxford Camera)
Missa Gloria tibi Trinitas: I. Gloria - John Taverner - Taverner: Missa Gloria tibi Trinitas
Partita no.1 in B minor, BWV 1002 - 7. Tempo di Borea - Arthur Grumiaux - Bach: Complete Sonatas and Partitas for Solo Violin [Disc 1]
Katuar / Pf Quartet op.31 2. Andante - Rian de Waal, Christian Bor, Peter Hans Keuning, Godfried Hoogeveen - Russian Chamber Music [Disc 4] (Katuar / String Quintet : Pf Quartet)
French Suite No. 5 in G major, BWV816 - V. Bourree - Angela Hewitt - Bach; French Suites (hyperíon CDA67122)
Flute Concerto in D major, RV 429 - II. Andante - Alexis Kossenko: Arte Dei Suonatori - Vivaldi: Concerti per il flauto traversier
Symphony No. 4- II. Allegro vivo. Moderato (Trio). Allegro vivo- Vaclav Neumann - Czech Philharmonic - martinu complete symphonies Neumann
Taneyev: Piano Quintet in G minor, Op.30: IV.Allegro vivace - Staffan Scheja, Christian Bor, Paul Rosenthal, Rainer Moog, Nathaniel Rosen - Treasures of Russian Chamber Music [Disc 2]
Prelude in C minor, BWV934 - Angela Hewitt - Bach; French Suites (hyperíon CDA67122)

>>74281499
Fate Zero OST - secret maneuvers

wumpscut - Irak 1

J.S. Bach - Partita g-Moll BWV 1004, Giga

アキシブProject - ガチ恋レボリューション

J.S. Bach - 16. Praeludium & Fuga No. 20 in A Minor, BWV 865 - Fuga a 4

Death Grips Up My Sleeves

Iuchi Maiko - Kiyama Sensei

Burzum - The Crying Orc

Yasuharu Takanashi - Hyoujin Mau

Diary of Dreams - Oblivion

>>74281790
He never could musically trascend beyond the meme.

>>74281499
R8 please

1.''Carmen'' suites for string orchestra and percussion ensemble by Rodion Shchedrin.

2.Violin concerto No.3 ''Strassbourg'' by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

3.Piano sonata No.21 in C major ''Waldstein'' by Ludwig van Beethoven

4.String quartet No.15 ''Heiliger Dankgesang'' by Ludwig van Beethoven

5.Symphony No.3 in C sharp minor by Havergal Brian

6.Symphony No.6 in F major by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart

7.Guitar concerto ''Pegasus effect'' by Takashi Yoshimatsu

8.Symphony No.1 ''Kamui Chikap'' by Takashi Yoshimatsu

9.Nine variations in C major on a march of Enst Dressler by Ludwig van Beethoven

10.Symphony in E flat major by E.T.A.Hoffmann.

>literally me this morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz9fWWRlgT4

>Mozart, the chad
https://exhentai.org/g/764772/615b30258f/

>>74281499
>Hush, ye pretty warbling quire (from "Acis and Galatea" - Handel) - Christie+Les Arts Florissants
>Glory, Glory to Christ the King (from "The Martyrdom of St Sebastian" - Debussy) - Bernstein+New York Phil
>Piano Concerto no. 15 in B-Flat Major K.450 III. Allegro - Ackermann+Philharmonia, Solomon
>Gloria Patri (from "Dixit Dominus" - Handel) - Cleobury+Choir of King's Cambridge+English Chamber Orchestra
>Variation IV. The Three Kings (from "A Boy was Born" - Britten) - Edwards+London Sinfonietta Chorus+Choristers of St Paul's Cathedral
>Variation V: Dreamlike, Frozen (from "The People United Will Never Be Defeated" - Rzewski) - Hamelin
>Heimliches Lieben D.922 - Banse+Johnson
>Cycle III - O Blessed Paradise, Pray for Me (From "The Veil of the Temple" - Tavener) - Layton+The Choir of the Temple Church+The Holst Singers+The English Chamber Orchestra
>Grand Duo Concertant II. L'Enfer - Lentement (Alkan) - Papavram+Sermet
>Reflets dans l'eau (from "Images" - Debussy) - Michelangeli

I've not got around to transferring a lot of stuff from my old computer to this one, so there's more of a bias towards stuff with voice than there probably would be otherwise, but I do listen to more vocal music as a whole so it's not entirely innaccurate.

>>74282211
fucking cringe

>>74281603
Patrician choice

>>74281499

1. Bach - 4. Brandenburgisches Konzert
2. Wagner - Parsifal act 2
3. Glass - Akhnaten act 1 Hymn
4. Rimsky-Korsakov "Where are you"
5. Praetorius - Volte du Tambour from Terpsichore
6. Mozart - Piano Concerto no. 17 in G
7. Rimsky-Korsakov - The invisible city of Kitezh - act 2
9. Stravinsky - Firebird, Lullaby
10. Bruckner - Symphony No.2

rate?

>>74281499
1. B.A. Zimmermann - Ich wandte mich um und sah alles Unrecht das geschah unter der Sonne
2. Stockhausen - Der Kinderfänger
3. Gershwin - Porgy and Bess
4. Beethoven - Symphony No. 7 (IV - Allegro con brio)
5. Liszt - Le rossignol
6. Frescobaldi - ‘Qui dunque, ohimé, qui dove’ (from Madrigali, 1608)
7. Takemitsu - I hear the water dreaming
8. Weber - Clarinet Concerto No. 2
9. D. Scarlatti - Keyboard Sonata No. 402 in E minor
10. Mahler - Symphony No. 6 (I - Allegro energico, ma non troppo)

Who is your favorite Spectralist composer?

>>74284674
Grisey I guess. I haven't really delved into that school. pls rec anon

sorry to be annoying but could i ask you guys for classical recs? i think some stuff is really beautiful but i have kind of a high-school-level understanding of everything and i get overwhelmed by how much there is out there. composers i enjoy include britten, messiaen, schubert, feldman, varese, and schoenberg and i like choral/vocal music a lot

>>74286131
was thinking about replying until
>varese, and schoenberg

>>74286287
Further proof that Schoenberg is underrated.

Anyone got suggestions for a composing app on android? My computer crapped out on me but I've got a hand-me-down tablet that's pretty recent. Mobile compatible websites are good too.

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>>74286572
>composing app
>on Android

>>74281499
>implying I keep all my music in my main library and not in separate playlists corresponding to different folders
wow

>>74281499
Johann Sebastian Bach - St. John Passion: Part 2. No. 35. Aria. Zerfließe, mein Herze, in Fluten der Zähren (Slowik)
Franz Schubert - Frühlingstraum ("Ich träumte von bunten Blumen"), song for voice & piano (Winterreise), D. 911/11 (Op. 89/11) (Hüsch/Muller)
Nikos Skalkottas - Greek Dances (36) for orchestra, Books 1-3, Op. 11: Series II. 11. Macedonikos (Christodoulou)
Leoš Janáček - Moravian Folk Songs (15) for solo piano, JW 8/23: No. 12. The Hradcany clock (Adès)
Richard Strauss - Zueignung ("Ja, du weisst es, teur Seele"), song for voice & piano (or orchestra), Op. 10/1 (TrV 141/1) (Kipnis/Bergh)
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Symphony No. 40 in G minor, K. 550: III. Menuetto: Allegretto - Trio (Casals)
Jan Ladislav Dussek - Fantasia and Fugue, for piano in F minor (C. 199): I. Fantasia (Staier)
Heinrich Ignaz Franz von Biber - Mystery Sonatas (16), for violin & basso continuo (or solo violin), C. 90-105: No. 11. Die Auferstehung: Surexit Christue hodie (Letzbor/Duftschmied/Zerer/Glüxam/Wolf)
Gustav Mahler - Symphony No. 9 in D major: II. Im Tempo eines gemächlichen Ländlers. Etwas täppisch und sehr derb (Wakasugi)
Heinrich Schütz - Herr, nun lässest du deinen Diener, for soprano, alto, 2 tenors, bass & continuo ad lib, SWV 432-433: Part 2, SWV 433 (Vox Luminis)

>>74287142
I do the same and i can play all

Anybody got some classical recs that sound similar to baba yetu?

>>74288145
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h6xC2IyF98

/r/ sad piano pieces that aren't too hard to play

>>74288450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6PqX2Fir8

HOW THE FUCK IS THE MAGIC FLUTE SO FUCKING GOOD? WHAT THE FUCK

>>74288450
Chopin's E minor prelude

>>74289350
This is a new kind of shitposting?

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Any hidden gems between the classical and romantic periods? Obviously I love Beethoven and Schubert but is there any lesser known composers that are great? Specifically looking for chamber music and lieder.

>>74289476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX09OHmuhWY

>>74289476
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTOsVD-8ko

>>74288450
How did nobody post the most obvious answer yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_321NFKkuU&spfreload=10

>>74288410
hehe boobies

>>74289476
The Czechs were pretty good in that period.
Dussek
Tomasek
Reicha
Then there's Hummel whose piano concerti are really underrated.
Neukomm is ok
Spohr is p. good
Then there's the fugue-Lord Sechter

If Schubert is your cut-off, then you can also throw in Loewe who wrote some of the most compelling ballads (narrative songs) of any composer.

Weiss

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me_QhZKkHp4

josquin

ockeghem

>there are people reading this right now, that don't enjoy listening to Art of the Fugue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlQzoULv4E

Petzold

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hSoVLQ3SBc

>>74281364
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUoVzvNGGts

>>74289449
He's right. The Magic Flute is pretty good.

>>74288450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05n91td5Q8I

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any good HIP recordings of vivaldi's gloria?

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>>74281499
Seems fun and pointless so here goes:

1. John Adams - Shaker Loops
2. Steve Reich - Different Trains
3. Conlon Nancarrow - Studies for Player Piano
4. Leonard Bernstein - Mass
5. Thomas Ades - In Seven Days
6. Numina - Night of the Falling Planets
7. Jennifer Walshe - Manhattan
8. Leos Janacek - Suite for Strings
9. Philip Glass - Glassworks
10. Kirsty MacColl - Wrong Again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_HzLh6-hb8

>>74286572
Yeah it's called paper and pencil.

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I've been listening to some Golijov. Mostly Oceana, Azul, and La Pasión según San Marcos. I'm a fan. Not masterpieces or anything but I love the foward-moving energy, heavy use of percussion, and Latin American influences.

Bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX_U4a0WvDg

How do I compose music to sound like debussy?

I always loved the impressionists

>>74289597
>>74289653
>>74290235
Thanks, my dudes. <3

>>74299122

pentatonic scale, then mix in the whole tone scale. Boom, instant impressionism

>>74286131
Have you listened to Webern's cantatas?

Bernstein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYFaGmjm_Ks

can anyone suggest me piano songs that aren't hard to play?
No sad songs

>>74301129
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do5c4Bt-voQ

>>74299122
Large chords, you can add thirds on your soprano note. Lots of simple layers, like bolero

>>74299521
And yeah, the "hard to do naturally" dissonances, like whole tone scale (why?) and augmented chords (how?).

BTW counterpoint was used in one way or another up to and including some impressionism, it actually is the cornerstone of pre-postmodern classical music.

Does that bother you guys that postmodern music actually does count as classical music? Technically the only thing that makes all of this "classical" is acceptance in academic institutions.

>>74301129
oops I meant this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWgpvYdh4Y4

>>74286572
The only good one is ensemble composer, I tried many a while back with some idea of writing music commuting. I just really need voices, two on the bass clef, two on the treble, at least, and only ensemble does that.

>>74301861
>>>74301129
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9BQ1ylApto
That's still ridiculously hard to play...

I write everything so simple it could be played by someone who's only played for a few years, I kind of like doing things good and since I don't play piano, good is simple.

>>74301877
NO

ok let's try again
piano songs with medium difficulty

>>74302190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynky7qoPnUU

>>74302216
not so long

>>74302248
Bruv find the piano part, run through it and select out the parts that you'd consider a full length piece. There's some difficult in there, but also just some nice chords I've heard from a disney movie.
http://imslp.org/wiki/Piano_Concerto,_Op.54_(Schumann,_Robert)

Whatever, how much of well tempered clavier have you played?

Post your best basses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0iHigx_NaI

>>74303361
Something about Chesnokov and a lot of Russian sacred music is astoundingly beautiful. Quite simple harmony, but executed flawlessly.

>>74303550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvFhKwKXgrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7XRc25Y7b8

>>74303361
>>74303550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmJWZMbnlU

ITT: nu-males

>>74303743
pls no bully

Is it bad if i don't really dislike ANY composer? I feel like there's always something i end up liking from everyone, even people like John Cage.

>>74303997
Nothing wrong with that. All the really bad composers just get forgotten.

>>74303743
wouldn't liking classical music make us old-males?

>>74303361
https://youtu.be/ygOuyV8C1r8

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>>74303997
Nope, as long as you don't like Shostakovich.

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>>74304021
>wouldn't liking classical music make us old-males?
Have you been to a music school? Those places are FLOODED with the types of stereotypical millennials /pol/acks complain about.

Also, preferring classical music to other garbage, while correct, is generally seen as a hipster position to the normals.

>>74303997
I don't either really.

>>74304372
There's not that much crossover between the sort of idiotic music students who complain about classical music being too focused on music by dead white men and the ones who post here.

>>74304721
and also there are a lot of women who behave like that and they don't post here that often because >womemes

>>74303743
No, rap and hip-hop is the nu-male genre. Nu-males don't listen to classical. In fact this is probably the only non nu-male thread on the entire board.

>>74304372
i went and it was a lot of rich assholes

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>>74304963
>Nu-males don't listen to classical.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*gasp*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>74305330
They don't. They listen to darkie music like Hamilton. FACT.

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>the audience is like a woman. it wants to be forced into happiness.

serialist rapers understood only 50% of this wisdom

Why is Serialism so hated? I like it.

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I'm looking for a comprehensive list of all the best romantic, modern classical, impressionist composers, and specific works by these composers that you know (bonus points if you can name specific recordings for those works). I want to go on a downloading spree.

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>>74305330
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>*gasp*
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>74305974
Also, to be more specific, I am looking for really expressive works, like prokofiev or ravel's piano pieces, or whatever cool symphonies, concertos, string quartets, lieder, or whatever else is cool.

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>>74305715
Because it's subliminal Jewish propaganda.

>>74305715
good composers know their time will come and dont waste time shilling.

>>74305974
you already know all their names

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What is the best performance of La Nozze di Figaro availabe in You Tube?

I want one with not only great singers and orchestra, but also one where the casting of the actors seems to really fit the roles (for example: a young and pretty girl is played by a young and pretty girl, not by an old fat lady).

Subtitles (either in English, Portuguese or Spanish) would be great too.

Thank you all very much.

>>74306388
What makes you think that? I'm sure there's a lot of composers I don't know. I just get a little tired of only seeing chopin, beethoven, bach, brahms, mozart, schumann, schubert, ravel, debussy, wagner, bartok, elgar, mahler, strauss, etc, memed all the time.

Going to the proms tomorrow night lads

Hyped for Classical music for plebs like me.

>>74306473
they deserve it. memes are the ones who became pop culture jingles, like all the italian and french opera-plebs.

>>74306473
Dunno how well known it is, but Kodaly's sonata for solo cello is considered to be one of the gold standards of cello playing, equal to the Bach suites when it comes to solo repertoire.

>>74306181
everything is

https://youtu.be/W7QEIkRvxQQ?t=325
richter gotta go fast

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Who was in the wrong here?

>>74307498
everyone

Fuck. I left something crucial out of that last post I made.

I'm looking for a comprehensive list of all the best OBSCURE romantic, modern classical, impressionist composers, and specific works by these composers that you know (bonus points if you can name specific recordings for those works). I want to go on a downloading spree.

I am looking for really expressive works, like prokofiev or ravel's piano pieces, or whatever cool symphonies, concertos, string quartets, lieder, or whatever else is cool.

Just to repeat, I am looking for obscure classical music.

>>74307260
what a hack

most overrated musician of the 20th century

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>>74308049

>>74306433

please?

>>74305974
>>74306473
Here are some suggestions:

Witold Lutoslawski - Concerto for Orchestra
Isao Matsushita - To the Air of Time
Wilhelm Stenhammar - String Quartet 2
Riccardo Muti - Cavalleria Rusticana
Rued Langgaard - Music of the Spheres
Karol Szymanowski
George Antheil
Jennifer Higdon
Peteris Vasks - Violin Concerto
Deidre Gribbin - Venus Blazing
Henryk Gorecki - Symphony 3
Kaija Saariaho
Henri Detilleux - Cello Concerto
Osvaldo Golijov

>>74308206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmNoWUjIXZg

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>>74308124
wtf is your problem?

>>74308576
not him, but Richter messed up several times in that Schumann piece. It's a live recording, but still

How did you get to 4chan, and then /classical/ ?
Tell your story

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>>74309054
let's not

>>74309054
>tell your story

no

>>74309108
>>74309120
pussies

>>74309054
i was playing with my balls one day and hit the keys and ended up in classical ehehe

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>>74281364
Have any of you ever met a prominent composer?

Kaija Saariaho visited my school about 2 years ago. She BTFO'd all of the composition students.
Penderecki and Wolfgang Rihm were also supposed to come at various points but they weren't able to. Kinda sucks.

>>74309054
Found out about it from other websites, kept hearing about it so came here a few years ago. I have always liked music so it was only inevitable I would check out 4chans music board.

>>74306433
The Gardiner one that comes up first is p. good. There's one with Damrau as Susannah as well which is also good. There was another channel which uploaded nothing but bel canto opera productions which had some good ones too, but that account appears to have just bee terminated which is sad.

>>74309492
Did someone ask her why she doesn't give a shit about recordings? I keep hearing people raving about her work but it seems like there's no way to listen to it except for a few pieces on youtube.

>>74306723
Looks like an all right programme. Jarvi is a pretty solid conductor so enjoy.

>>74309492
Part, MacMillan and Mealor.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8J8urC_8Jw
whats your opinion on this guy?

>>74310106
??? There are several albums on Spotify

Does anybody know a good site that talks about avant-garde classical? I want something like ClassicsToday but instead of Mahler they review performances of Schoenberg's work, or maybe even Stockhausen.

>>74295191
gay and boring

>>74306433
>(for example: a young and pretty girl is played by a young and pretty girl
I got bad news for you about Cherubino

>>74306433
I like this version from the 90s with Gerald Finley and Renee Fleming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqVLkHgvHfI

>>74294141
Yes, it really is that good. I was listening today to Sarasate's fantasy on themes from it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ1Jo60dRvg

Gershwin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPRiM5JvYx8

>>74307498
The entire thread except for the first reply.

>>74309054
i heard 4chan was an epic site like 9gag and Reddit and came to this epic meme factory.

>>74310069
>>74312543

Thank you so much guys :)

>>74315010
Who?

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What was this guy's problem again? Didn't he hate everything but baroque music? Did he record schoenberg out of spite?

>>74315066
Nah, he liked Schoenberg. He was also very critical of a lot of composers whom he liked, by the way. Even if you see Gould shittalking some composer, it doesn't necessarily mean he dislikes them. Except Mozart. He definietly hated Mozart.

>>74315066
He secretly wanted to be Bill Evans.

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>>74308049

>>74309054
>occasionally go to /tg/
>study music
>think the music board would probably have classical discussion
>go to /mu/
>usually only 1 classical thread, sometimes not even that.
better than nothing I guess

>>74315644
Such is life.

>>74309054
>4chan
went on encyclopedia dramatica first then heard the name 4chan pop up a bunch but didn't actually go on until a year after because "uwahh 4chan is full is scary people and what if they know im underage"
>/classical/
I hate classical music so that's why I'm here

>>74315066
>Didn't he hate everything but baroque music?
No. Looking at his writings and his recordings it is clear he is very fond of several renaissance composers and plenty of late romantic/20th century composers. He just isn't that keen on classical and earlier romantic piano music.

rec classically pretty contemporary music

>>74315956
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzSlmWQuHFw

>>74315956
Everything by Wolfgang Rihm.

>>74315644
>still posting this terrible chart
Do people from /tg/ all have bad taste?

>>74315583
>He was also very critical of a lot of composers whom he liked
>but he definitely hated Mozart

You mean Tchaikovsky and Chopin? I mean of all the composers, Mozart hardly stands out as Gould's least liked. There's lots of recordings of him playing Mozart. And his interpretations, whatever you think of them, were definitely Gould making an effort.

>>74316535
>whatever you think of them, were definitely Gould making an effort.
An effort to shitpost IRL maybe.

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js bach is an oak
beethoven is a lion
mozart is a plant-animal hybrid

The only "classical" stuff I've ever downloaded was Reich and Riley (and Branca, if we really stretch the definition of "classical"), and they were alive recently enough to be present at the recording of albums of their work, so I know how to tag their stuff. But how the hell do I tag dead guys' work? Do I make Karajan the artist, or Berliner Philharmonkier, or Beethoven?

>>74316861
ya classical music is a shitshow for tagging
I like to do
>Artist: conductor
>Composer: composer
>orchestra name will be in the album cover hopefully
>put everything into the album they were released in

>>74317096
Right now I have Beethoven for Artist and Composer, with "Herbert von Karajan; Berliner Philharmoniker" as Album Artist. Not sure how it's going to appear on my iPod™, though

>>74317259
I used to do
>artist: beethoven
>all multi-movement works are their own album
>all single movement works under "[composer] miscellaneous"
this created a problem when I have say a collection of 10 different Handel concerti under one album or a compliation of every beethoven symphony, and it gets especially annoying when you have to label albums "Piano Concerto No. 3 (Argerich)" and "Piano Concerto No. 3 (Ashkenazy)," so I would have to scroll through a billion "albums" to get anywhere so I switched back straight albums

>>74284674
radulescu and saariaho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32NjIl6fH8s

>>74309492
>She BTFO'd all of the composition students.
pls expand upon this

>>74309492
I met Ticheli once

>>74284674
Kyriakides or Romitelli, both of whom make actual music instead of simply boring academic treatises

>>74310106
Recorded music is degenerate

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>>74281364
recommend me a book or website on to learn how to read music sheet, I am not a retard, I am a programmer and can learn on my own but need good resources, it feels bad when I watch classical music videos on youtube with sheets and I cannot understand how these symbols translate into timed sounds

i really hate a lot of the banality of mahler's third symphony but the development up to the rabble is mesmerizing

>>74318801
clementi piano school page 3-20 covers basics
http://imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/b/b1/IMSLP316289-PMLP160185-clementi-op42-a4.pdf

Gershwin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSL0KmSj7gM

why did schönberg cross the road?

- he understood the inherent limitations and irreconcilable contradictions of the sidewalk and dared to go where nobody had gone before in a cry for help. krenek showed that medieval monks anticipated this move.

>>74318801
musictheory.net

>>74319584
>why did schönberg cross the road?
Wagner and Strauss made him do it, but they both returned before fully crossing.
Schoenberg figured "fuck it, I'm already half way there" and decided to construct a pedestrian crossing on that very spot.

Now school children and elderly can cross safely without being run over

>>74319584
>>74319722
now add a food analogy

>>74319738
Strauss tried making a really crazy cake one day, just adding random ingredients he thought would taste good.
Schoenberg tried it, thought it was pretty good, but lacking something so he set about methodically researching how food chemistry works and laid down a framework recipe for all sorts of unusual and interesting cakes. He essentially created an index system, where each ingredient has a number attached to it and could only be combined with certain other ingredients when cross reference in a giant ingredient matrix.
He invented several of these matrices, but is mainly known for only one of them today.

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>when the pathetique adagio kicks in

What's the best classical to listen to while watching porn?

>>74320979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C78HBp-Youk

>>74320979
Bruckner is masturbation in musical form.

>>74321036
because it's always the same finish?

>>74320987
hehe.

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>>74320979

Help, looking for a recording of Pictures At An Exhibition (piano version, fuck off orch plebs), it was by a female, maybe russian, name maybe begins with an L (not sure if first name or surname)

HELP

>>74321320
LMAO don't listen to classical music recorded by women. Classical music is male music.

>>74321379
t; turbo plen

>>74321320
Googled your absolutely shit explanation and found the exact person you're after, so I'm not going to help you

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>>74321379
>listening to recordings

>>74321320
https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=piano+mussorgsky+exhibition&type=all&page=4

>>74321470
>listening to music and not just reading sheet music

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>>74321481
that's what was implied friendo

>>74321515
>all music is recorded

check your logic again buddo

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>>74321531
Fair enough, as long as we agree on the general point.

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Ay this guy is based af, why do ryski keep btfo everyone in art?

>>74321629
>be dumb
>enjoy Russian music
Checks out

>>74321629
Russian music is duller than dishwater.

>>74288450
not sad but still, any piano philip glass.

whats your opinion on female conductors?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHvCj2MNkdA

i didnt even knew they existed. it looks so wrong.

>>74321702
>whats your opinion on female
stopped reading

>>74321638
>>74321658
What's the problem with him/Russian composers in general? genuinely asking I only started listening to classical.

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>>74321713
This

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>>74321470
>>74321481

>>74321320
It's probably Lisitsa. But do yourself a favour and listen to the Sofia recital instead

What are some more XXXTREME composers like Stravinsky and Shostakovich?

>>74321871
Penderecki, Ferneyhough, Schnittke, Carter.

>>74321831
Can people really do this?

Please recommend the saddest and/or most beautiful pieces you know. You know the kind where the silence between the notes almost kills you like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmBrepbZji0

or where the beautiful just bombards you like Vivaldi - Winter.

>>74321988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UTnOON8x64

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>>74321724
There's no problem. They have no taste.

>>74321702
Fuck off pol. You fuckers are like flies that need to be shooed away.

>fly lands on your food
>says something "edgy" in a sad attempt to collect (You)s
>"go go, now," says everyone else, "we don't want your cancer here."

>>74322287
Who are you quoting?

>>74322287
>having the competence to recognize (You) fishing, but still replying anyway
>that entire cringy greentext wall

How's that assburgers treating you?

>>74321918
Maazel conducted most things from memory. Apparently he never feared that he was going to forget bits of a piece, but rather that he often had bits of other pieces enter his head in response to what the orchestra was playing and unless he was careful, he would get distracted by the new piece formed out of a mixture of the two old ones

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>Tartini allegedly told the French astronomer Jérôme Lalande that he dreamed that The Devil appeared to him and asked to be his servant. At the end of their lessons Tartini handed the devil his violin to test his skill—the devil immediately began to play with such virtuosity that Tartini felt his breath taken away. When the composer awoke he immediately jotted down the sonata, desperately trying to recapture what he had heard in the dream.

>Despite the sonata being successful with his audiences, Tartini lamented that the piece was still far from what he had heard in his dream.

>What he composed was, in his own words: “so inferior to what I had heard, that if I could have subsisted on other means, I would have broken my violin and abandoned music forever.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rxl5KsPjs

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>>74322287
Mirga a qt and her conducting is pretty good. She's still young so has time to develop (so I get quite annoyed by all the superlatives that get hurled at her by critics as though she's already a master conductor)

Otherwise I did sing with Alsop once and whilst I was a bit sceptical going into the project, she was a really, really good conductor with total control over the whole ensemble.

>>74322492
meant for
>>74321702

>>74321988
Cringe

>>74322287
whom are you quoting?

>>74322443
>I would have broken my violin and abandoned music forever
I wish he had, what a garbage meme lord, basically a proto-proto-romantic relying more on his programs than actual musical skill and taste.

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Post pieces that you think encapsulates the essence of classic.

>>74323366
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqSAGwa49MM

>>74323366
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWPoH5fSEAQ

>>74315066
https://leonardbernstein.com/lectures/writings/the-truth-about-a-legend-glenn-gould

Can someone please explain to me why contemporary composers write shitty music? Is it supposed to be a joke? Do they actually think smashing random notes on a piano sounds good? Please help me understand.

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>>74323560
>>74323413
classic

>>74323672
they hate life

>>74323672
Jewish subversion.

>>74323672
Some do, some don't. A lot of the time what can sound random at first glance is actually very carefully put together. Whether you enjoy it or not is another matter.

>>74321724
Shostakovich in general just sounds like movie music to me. It doesn't help that any criticism of his music is almost always met with "dude but his life story" or "dude but stalin". It's like in listening to it his fans adopt the Russian inferiority complex that has led to it forever being a shit country with shit culture.

>>74324182
Add.: It speaks volumes that Stravinsky, one of the only Russian composers worth a damn, couldn't wait to get out of Russia.

>>74324182
>>74324196
There are a lot of tiresome russian composers (Shostakovich, Glazunov, probably Tchaikovsky and especially Rachmaninov - how can someone enjoy this embodiment of late romantic bad taste), but still - stating Russia has shit composers and culture overall seems a little bit harsh in the light of the work of Stravinsky, Rimsky-Korsakov, Mussorgsky and Prokofiev.
It's like saying Germany has shit culture, because there is Schubert's Genoveva or Wagner's The Fairies

>>74324868
*Schumann's

>>74324868
Anonymous posting encourages hyperbole, I find.

There are good Russian composers, yes, but of your list Stravinsky spent most of his life in France and the US, and fitting him into any conception of a Russian tradition becomes difficult after the 1910s. If only Prokofiev had followed suit instead of returning to Moscow.

RK I don't care for so much, I don't know if it's just the constant playing of a handful of his orchestral works to the exclusion of all else, but I find him dreadfully dull.

Mussorgsky I have some sort of admiration for, although to this day I cannot sit through Boris Godunov.

>>74322287
wait; who said this?

>>74325237
>There are good Russian composers, yes, but of your list Stravinsky spent most of his life in France and the US, and fitting him into any conception of a Russian tradition becomes difficult after the 1910s

Sure, but the works he is best known for - Petrushka, Firebird and Rite of Spring are all three quintessentially russian. Even in his later neoclassical works, there are still many russian influences. You're nonetheless right about the vanishing of these and unfortunately you may be right about Prokofiev, too

>RK I don't care for so much, I don't know if it's just the constant playing of a handful of his orchestral works to the exclusion of all else, but I find him dreadfully dull
I understand that impression, but especially many of his later works are hidden gems of the late romantic period and had quite some impact on Debussy, Ravel and needless to say on his students Stravinsky and Prokofiev.

>>74325620
I'd be happy to take recommendations for RK if you have any. I do remember liking an opera of his, Mlada, I think.

>>74326038
Mlada, The Tale of Tsar Saltan and The Snow Maiden are all three great operas, that imo would be in the standard repertoire of today's opera houses if it wasn't for the 1917 revolution (especially Tale of Tsar Saltan and Snow Maiden)

May Night, an earlier work, and Sadko are also worth a listen, but I personally don't like them that much, because of their very nationalistic/panslavic vibe and themes

An opera, that will always impress me is The Golden Cockerel. It's his last opera and really interesting to listen to bearing in mind how his colourful orchestration and clarity resembles the works of his student Stravinsky or Khachaturian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZt9sG5lxd0

His second symphony (Antar) or Russian Easter festival Ouverture are well done romantic pieces, but I don't think you would enjoy them, if Scheherazade strikes you as dull, which I can understand

>>74326772
Thanks, I'll definitely look into those operas.

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Post underrated composers

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>white performers

>>74328196
fuck off chang, you literally cannot understand art if you're not white.

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>>74328139
Being serious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3brR1APZh8

Best setting of Gloria, lads?

so f*cking good!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI7Jc-fSQQ8

>>74330326
Now that's that good shit.