Controversial Opinions

I've heard their entire discography and The Wall is my favourite Pink Floyd album.

Peopld who bitch about other peoples tastes, have no better tastes themselves, they just pretend to

rolling stones fucking suck

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This was the best rap album of last year.

Other hot takes:
>Blueprint 3 was one of Jay Z's best albums
>Jay Z's album highlights are better than most of Kanye's
>KMD was better than half of DOOM's albums
>King Geedorah was better than Madvillainy

>>74257944
Post 69 yes

>>74257848
fucking hell m8, why tho?

also, post > homogenic desu

The 60s has been the worst decade in popular music since the 30s. Just leave the psychedelia stuff aside and think about the 60s and you'll be unable to name +10 good albums from the period.

>>74257848
same

>>74258055
I just love the aggressive and personal music that Roger was writing at the time. It just sounds so raw to me.

>>74258071
Alot of good jazz in the 60s, aside from psych and jazz it was shit though

Blue > Pinkerton

90s hip hop is overrated and I find most of it quite bland. Not to say that it didn't revolutionize hip hop, but I'm just sick of everyone praising biggie and pac and referring it to it as the 'golden era' of hip hop. Imo I think the stuff we got in the 21st century is better and full of more variety. Like I know we got shit like mumble and trap or whatever, but honestly rappers like Kendrick have topped biggie and pac before album-wise.

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She's STILL hot.

>>74257832
I don't like The Velvet Underground

>>74257832
I wish I could be more into Pink Floyd but the times I try to start to listen to them I get really bored

its been done before is not a valid criticism.

>>74258098
>a lot of good jazz
>it's basically Davis, Coltrane and Mingus

sure

>inb4 free jazz

I Fucking hate all old school rock with the exception of Hendrix and ACDC. Literally everything else is trash. fuck the beatles, the ramones, fucking metallica, slayer. fuck it all.

RHCP is an insult to funk and funk rock but they are my favorite band of all time

New Order is better than Joy Division

/mu/ is a good place to discover music

>>74258564
t. 15 yo self-proclaimed "/mu/-tant"

>>74258569
/mu/ generals are god tier
anything else (as this thread) is utter shit

Successful musicians are mostly successful because of their personalities and charisma, the music only needs to be passable.

>>74257832
OK Computer is in the bottom half of Radiohead albums

Syro is the best Aphex Twin album

>>74258599
24 actually. oh and suicidal tendencies are pretty damn good. But generally I dislike classic rock bands. grew up playing music basically all my life. dad loved classic rock. but I never had the heart to tell him I hated the shit.

>>74258564
>old school rock
>puts every genre of rock and metal made before 2000 into that category
consider going to the doctor and seeing if you have mental problems

Soundcloud is a shitty website that deserves to fail

>>74258650
yeah I know I'm being broad and generalizing. but it's because I hate most rock of every genre through the 80's. I mean you cannot argue with me that metal isn't rock.

Ambient is the best genre of music and the logical progression of classical music given the innovation in the 50s and 60s


>>74258153
Well kinda biggie and definitely pac are hugely overrated because of their place in the east/west war and their untimely deaths
90s hip hop has awesome stuff its just not them

i'm a pleb who goes on /mu/ mostly to talk about kanye west, kendrick lamar, daft punk etc. i don't even know how to get into new music.

I really like AJJ's music. People who Eat Other People and Can't Maintain are great albums. That said I do find the song American Tune definitely goes a step too far in terms white male guilt whining. Not heard anything beyond the first half of Knife Man so don't ask me to have opinions on anything beyond that.
>Inb4 whole thread gets derailed because I mentioned AJJ
>>74258153
Like most things that people love, 90's hip hop gets overglorified to FUCK.
>>74258221
Not nessecarily hot by my standards. but she's not gone to shit desu.
>>74258332
That's okay.

Asking Alexandria is one of the best metal bands in the past 20 years.

>>74257832
Ive never heard a single beatles album and have no interest in listening to one

>>74257832
In Rainbows would be a 10/10 if House of Cards wasn't on it.

Tiny Tim was one of the best artists of the 60's

>>74258569
>insult to funk
George Clinton and Bootsy Collins like them, so are they really?

>>74258717
dude the last half is great, it does get a little slow with love in your heart and no one, but big bird is a great closer to the album considering the whole album is just him stating how shitty the world can be. and ajj is a great band, the sharp piercing and catchy lyrics and the catchy tunes, and the emotional singing.

>>74257832
I actually agree with that, I like Cro-Mags doing metal way more than Cro-Mags doing hardcore. For some reason people crucify you when you say that.

radiohead is so laughably bad
thom yorke should not sing

Yeezus was fucking garbage and Kanye's worst album

>>74259543
pretty sure this is literally only controversial on this website

The Beatles made some of the most obnoxious music I've ever heard. The reason people love them so much is because everyone in the 60s was dude weed-tier and they mixed it using cool effects (which I can appreciate). The actual music, though, is just awful.

And this might not be unpopular here, but rap is the worst genre by far and gets surprisingly worse every month

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i listen to Deafheaven

>>74257832
Radiohead is so boring

>>74259543
I agree 100% its dalek for normies that are too lazy to explore the experimental hip hop genre.

ISIS loving Obama is the main cause for white rock music to have been flushed out and rap and hip hop to take over as America's music

Muse is a great band with very talented members

>>74258560
Art Blakey?

punk floyd is okay, the beatles annoy me, the who wrote really good songs. bob dylan is great but he probably just wrote bullshit and stuck gold.

Zappa is the most overrated artist in modern history. 99% of his catalog was cringy toilet humor lyrics over him showing off with lame, pointless guitar solos. Can, Faust and Beefheart were the true innovators.

>>74258599
>/mu/ generals are god tier
Which ones? Chart, Kpop, Grimes or that wonderful place /classical/?

>>74258626
Sure, if we're talking about top 40 acts.

>>74258759
>Asking Alexandria is one of the best metal bands in the past 20 years.
So, this is a /shitposting/ general?

>>74259733
>bob dylan is great but he probably just wrote bullshit
How dare you? But then again, this is just a /shitposting/ general.

>>74259798
>Everything I know about Zappa came from shitposts on /mu/

>>74257848
>I've heard their entire discography and The Wall is my favourite Pink Floyd album.
Agreed, it's just a brilliantly thorough execution of an idea
>>74258569
>New Order is better than Joy Division
>/mu/ is a good place to discover music
Agreed
>>74258715
>Well kinda biggie and definitely pac are hugely overrated because of their place in the east/west war and their untimely deaths
Agreed

The Ramones are one of the blandest bands on the planet. They may have created the blueprint for punk, but nearly everyone that followed them improved on it.
Big Beat and Madchester/Baggy are great genres that deserve revivals.
Krautrock is a real genre, and it's amazing.
Nearly everything referred to as "sporkcore" is great.
Fantano isn't incredible, but he's a decent critic who explains his opinions well. I understand why he has an audience.
No rapper has as of yet topped Aesop Rock.

To Be Kind has some fantastic songs but is overall in the bottom half of Swans' studio discography.

Hail to the Thief is Radiohead's best album.

Victorialand is Cocteau Twins' best album.

Goo is Sonic Youth's worst album.

Side 2 of Remain in Light is better than side 1.

The post-Disintegration Cure albums are better than a lot of people make them out to be.

I think dark side of the moon is pink Floyd's least good album

>>74259617
>CONTROVERSIAL

>>74260240
>The post-Disintegration Cure albums are better than a lot of people make them out to be.
That's not cotraversal, it's just a fact, Wish and Bloodflowers are both fucking great, better than their first three.

King Crimson > Pink Floyd

>>74260264

Now that is just being a contrarian

>>74260343

>first 3

Eh, I dunno about Faith. That album's only marginally lesser to Pornography, I'd call it their first truly great album. And I was including Wild Mood Swings, the S/T and 4:13 Dream in that designation. They're all underrated. But yes, Wish and Bloodflowers are quite handily the best of that set of albums.

Witness is the best album released this year

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Beach House is the greatest pop band of the 21st century

>>74259896
i stand by my opinion. i love the man but i find myself thinking that i'm the one retroactively assigning meaning to his lyrics.

>>74257832
ITAOTS is a thoroughly mediocre album that people mostly just praise to look like they know something.

>>74260641
Every album sounds the same.

a lot of metal just relies on pushing faux-edgy aesthetics that were maybe a little subversive 30 or 40 years ago and all seems to aim for the same "we think we're being provocative by stringing together blast beats and guitars into one monotonous stretch the same way most other metal bands do" shit musically

>>74260667
Not at all, especially when comparing their debut to teen dream and onward. Sure they're songs aren't very varied in form, but they have a very spiritual quality to them that makes them ascend "just pop songs" to me.

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>People hate hip hop becuase they hate black people most of the time

>>74260701
Metal is one of my favorite genres and I think this.

I can't stand MF Doom purely because I haven't the slightest fucking clue of what the hell he's even talking about 90% of the time, and I think the vast majority of his fans are the same but like him in order to appear of sophisticated taste.

>>74261002
what kinda stuff do you listen to? so far i've mostly just listened to drone/doom and a couple of things that'd fall under the banner of 'experimental metal' bc my only real exposure to more "normal" metal has been from a couple of relatives blaring it so i don't really know how the fuck to actually try starting with it

>apart from Tommorow never knows, Side B of Revolver is pure filler that puts its score down from the 10/10 side A is to a 7/10
>ISTGISTV is, by far, the best AnCo album
>Eagles of death metal is better than Queens of stone age
>Let it be is my favourite beatles album (as an album, as a collection of songs is MMT)
>i like the later period of Rolling Stones (Bridges of Babylon, Blue and Lonesome) much more than the classic 70s period of the Rolling stones (sticky fingers, exile on main street)
>the only two songs i like, from the beach boys, after Smiley Smile are from Mike Love (Sumahama and student demonstration time)
>the best version of Streets of Laredo is by Christopher Lee
>pictures of you is, by far, the worst song on disintegraton, and the only one on it that could be considered filler
>the black keys are one of the best bands nowadays, although Brothers and Turn Blue are shit
>royal blood is also a great band, even if it has cringy lyrics
>even the bends is much better than OK Computer
>Blink-182 could have been as great as The Beatles, if they had keeping maturing their talent after Blink-182, which is a great album
>Nickelback is not bad

And my most bizarre opinion:
>cruising with Ruben & the jets is my favourite Frank Zappa album

>>74260398
I honestly love division bell and wish you were here more desu

>>74258935
I mean, they are the most influential band ever, why should you?

Lmao

>>74258560
unless you play jazz dont pretend to understand jazz

>>74261227
>>the only two songs i like, from the beach boys, after Smiley Smile are from Mike Love (Sumahama and student demonstration time)
what about surf's up pham

>>74258564
>likes ACDC
>fuck the beatles, the ramones, fucking metallica, slayer. fuck it all.

wew

Tremendous Sea of Love is Passion Pit's best work. Sad that the rollout for it was terrible and hardly anyone cares for them anymore.

ac/dc is just a basic awkward mashing together of a bunch of sounds that barely even rocked in '73, let alone now

and angus young's voice is fucking hideous

Yeezus is hot garbage. One of the least interesting albums of the 2010s.

Amnesiac is Radiohead's worst and Hail to the Thief is their second best

Swans fucking suck. Especially their 80s stuff. Their early 90s stuff is alright but pretty dull, and their stuff from SFTB to the present is boring as hell,

>>74258055
Vespertine > The others
>>74258071
I agree even though jazz was pretty good then.
>>74258106
Is that a controversial opinion? Don't most people think that?
>>74258153
I agree 100%
>>74258221
I agree 200%
>>74258564
The Ramones aren't really old rock, aren't they pop-punk?
>>74258716
I'm kinda in a similar position. I'm a pleb but I'm pretty fine with it.
>>74259543
I'm still keeping this in my post.
>>74261592
*Insert Scaruffi quote*

>>74261592
>261592▶>>74261735
>>>74258935

listening to influential music results in dissapointment because you can't appreciate everything that's new for its time, but has been copied in music you've heard already. so it sounds generic

>>74261005

you have to read the lyrics

Amnesiac >>> Kid A > Everything else

>>74261801
not controversial, just a fact honestly

>>74257832
I can't stand the slacker yet squeaky-clean "indie rock" these days, it's so much more boring than it used to be. Also emo revival was a mistake and a hindrance to indie becoming more interesting again. Finally, going electronic isn't selling out but going the synth/electropop route sure FUCKING is (unless it's cold, but we're not in the cold war anymore so who cares about sounding cold amirite).

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best new order imo

I have given Astral Weeks multiple listens and still find it boring

Elliott Smith fucking sucks

Real Estate is even worse. Might not be very controversial here, but everyone I know is obsessed with them. It is some of the most generic, uninspired rock music I have ever heard.

>>74257848
Is that a controversial choice? It's been my favorite album by them all my life

Come to Daddy EP is Aphex Twin's best thing he ever put out

>>74258106
Isn't it though

Why does Cherry Bomb get so much hate? Find your wings, blow my load, 2seater, okaga. Yeah, buffalo and keep da O's is awful, but the rest is at least on par with wolf.
flower > cherry = wolf > goblin = bastard

I literally have no fucking idea why k-pop is so popular. 3/4 of it sounds like a autistic women with turrets getting beat with a wooden spoon.

>>74260343
>first 3
better include Boys Don't Cry

even though another anon has explained it pretty well,Faith contains the reasons why most fags would love The Cure.It's basically a prototype of the rollercoaster that was going to come next.

Serene,grey,dark ambients and Robert pulling his existential emotions in a record.

About the post Disintegration,Wish and Bloodflowers keep the quality,not controversial.I'm still waiting for a new record better than 4:13 though.

>>74257832
I can't get through an entire listen of Loveless

>>74262503
givie it time
headphones,isolation and patience

never expect highlights or something to instantly enjoy and just focus on what you listen at that moment

it took me 8 months to give it a 2nd chance and unexpectedly enjoy it or have a less shit experience than my first time(I had a headache before What You Want and I stopped and never come back)

that hapened to me and probably more faggots out there

Radiohead is a boring, unremarkable band and I have no idea why they're so revered. They have a few great tracks like Idioteque and Pyramid Song but that's it.

>>74263337
I only liked them during my depressed phase. Its miserable music outside a few tracks. Thom's voice is grating

>>74258153
Absolutely agree

>>74261801
okc > the bends >>> everything else
song power > half-assed experimentation, m8

>Blonde is completely unremarkable
>Painting With was good
>Thrash is one of the worst subgenres of metal
>Female musicians consistently produce higher quality output than male musicians
>Zappa is only remembered for his wacky persona. His music was no more interesting than his contemporaries in rock and jazz
>Cool jazz sucks

Teens of Denial is the best straight forward guitar album since Is This It

>>74260264
Fine if you don't think is that good, but their WORST. out of all of them. that's as close you can get to an objectively wrong opinion

>>74263517
>Blonde
Blondie or Blonde on Blonde?

>>74263707
I like Blondie tho.

>>74263730
Yeah I was asking which one you meant, silly anon.

>>74263791
I thought you were just being sarcastic. I meant the Frank Ocean album. Blond On Blonde is also overrated, but I get it more.

>>74258716
when you get bored, listen to new stuff until you like some of it

>>74263517
>Zappa

I respectfully disagree

>>74261694
i loved it, im a huge pp fan, and its super frustrating that nobody ever wants to talk about him because it sounds so bubblegum pop.

but cmon gossamer was better

>>74258697
What kind of rock music do you like now?

>>74258569
>/mu/ is a good place to discover music

I totally agree with this. People complain about it but it's got so many dissenting opinions that it actually gets a lot of good shit out there.

>>74260353
that's only controversial outside of /mu/

>>74261227
>the only two songs i like, from the beach boys, after Smiley Smile are from Mike Love (Sumahama and student demonstration time)
I've never heard of someone not liking Wouldn't It Be Nice

I really fucking hate krautrock
But not really, I only hate that they place the most entry level shit as the pinnacle of music, Faust, Neu, etc. without digging deep in other musicians that are involved with electronic composition
In short I hate Can and everyone around it, I really really do

>>74260240
>Goo is Sonic Youth's worst Album
wew lad steady there

I love kpop

Coloring Book is one of the worst mixtapes I've ever heard

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garbage

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Industrial is beautiful and the screeching sound of machines and Musique concrète make it one of the best and " edgy" genres,. everyone should check out an album form it at some point even if they just immedietly turn it off. Also neo-folk ( not just DI6 and C93) has nothing to do with alt right shit or nazis, it's usually beautiful bard like music of shitty shit happening in Europe like world wars and plagues, etc. as well as just being sad homosexual love songs and alot of it is just pagan and gay imagery. People need to fucking chill but what hasn't /pol/ ruined with their male version of feminism. Also i'm not a liberal before they get their panties in a twist.


Punk is a pretty trash genre also, very few good things have even come from it and it was just all about image.
People also need to do more things than just sit at their pc and listen to music like work out- go for a walk, read, do chores, etc. you will get a whole new appreciation for stuff you like, trust me.

White > Pinkerton

>>74264722
thats not controversial op

The Who is more important to the development of alternative rock than The Velvet Underground.

>Spoon is a functional but boring rock band
>Cymbals Eat Guitars, while critically well-rated, are criminally underappreciated on /mu/ and the music community in general
>Shellac would easily be one of the best rock bands of the contemporary era if they could cut out the goofy bullshit


>>74260701
also a metal fan and I somewhat agree with this
>>74262392
i know this is a cliche but the production really is that terrible
>>74261227
congrats these are the hottest takes in the whole thread

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>>74264893
look at this mongoloid

>>74264893
stop

>>74261067
start with motorhead, Metallica and Sabbath
if you don't like any of them you're a numale and listen to numale shit

>>74265031
even i really hate most older " rock" but I do really love sabbath and can see how much they have influenced. good shit.

>>74262412
Kek

>>74257832
i hate kendrick lamar, i think his music sucks

also my fav led zepp album is the first one

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I develop short-lived obsessions with bands

>>74258564
your knowledge of rock sounds makes you sound like a 14 year old.

>>74261701

>angus young's voice is fucking hideous
i imagine that's why he didn't sing

>illmatic is the most overrated hip hop ablum ever made
>pink floyd are overrated
>forever changes is overrated
>the beatles get way too much hate on here
>chance the rapper is good at features but his projects are wack
>a band having a lot of teenage fans doesnt automatically make them shit
>someone who listens to top 40 music can still have valid opinions about music
>grunge is generally weak genre

that's all i got off the top of my head

>>74257944
this so much
>>74257980
pretty much disagree with all of these lol (except for album of last year, i havent heard your pic related yet)
>>74258055
homogenic > everything tbqh
>>74258153
aside from kendrick who do we have now thats so much better than the best from the 90s?
i do disagree but im not hating on your opinion, just curious to hear you justify it
>>74258221
10/10 wud bang
>>74258525
same
>>74258560
>implying free jazz is bad
>>74258569
>/mu/ is a good place to discover music
true, snobs gtfo
>>74258642
could not disagree more on the radiohead one
>>74258715
agreed on the ambient front
>>74259530
>>74259543
>>74259622
>>74260641
>>74261801
wrong
>>74259599
both wrong
>>74264893
a better band? for sure
more important? probably not

>>74260240
>Side 2 of Remain in Light is better than side 1
my nigga

>>74258569
>/mu/ is a good place to discover music
Compared to pretty much every other mainstream alternative, yeah, it's great. I wouldn't really have taste in music were it not for this place.
I've never been to RYM or anything like that, so I can't speak to the community there, but when most people these days discover new songs through Youtube and Spotify search algorithms, it's refreshing to have a forum where people can point you to stuff you wouldn't have otherwise found.

>>74264383
I said after Smiley Smile. Wouldn't it be nice came before

>generally speaking Clams Casino beats sound much better with the rappers over them
>Friends is one of the best Beach Boys albums, second to Smile for me
>Damn is so bad it resulted in me enjoying the rest of Kendrick's music much less
>Piñata is better than Madvillainy

I unironically like Frownland but the rest of the album seems lazy to me
asiatics suck at pop, fucking hate every j-pop, k-pop and who knows what-pop artists, they are worse then western pop bands, but japanese jazz is very good
unknown pleasures is the most overrated album imo
new order has one or two great albums
paul mccartney has the best solo career of the beatles
i think bob dylan is a highly influential artist but i just can't understand why people like him so much, it sounds so similar all of his works to me
sufjan stevens is the best pop artist actually

>>74257848
I agree 100%. I feel people just don't like it because it isn't prog. If you don't go in expecting early Floyd, you'll realize it's better.

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Discogs with slsk is the only good place to find music

>>74264844
I agree

>>74265202
>more important?
I'd argue so. The Who was the blueprint for most dadrock, yes, but they were experimenting with purposeful feedback in their second single already and that section pretty much sounds like noise rock which is something very interesting; they influenced just about every power pop band, and most of those bands would go on to be very influential in the 90's (Big Star, Cheap Trick, The Cars, The Modern Lovers...); they were very influential in punk and probably have the first song that can truly be called "punk" in a sense of attitude; explored the synthesizer as more than just a psychedelic accent and more as an integral part of the song; pretty much invented rock operas and were kind of influential in prog's multisectioned songs.

Most people really loathe The Who here, and I'm not quite sure why. It's definitely one of those bands that's really influential and everyone just kind of ignores.

>>74258564
I can't see how you can like Hendrix and not like a huge portion of 60s and 70s rock. Sounds like you haven't looked into enough.

>>74261067
really depends on what you're interested in in general. for example, I like music that's pretty in your face and rhythmically complex. black metal, drone, and doom don't do much for me but I like a lot of death metal. try Atheist - Unquestionable Presence for a classic, less harsh death metal album or Cryptopsy - None So Vile for the harsher, more brutal side of death metal

for "normal" metal this might qualify as a controversial opinion in itself but I really don't think you can go wrong with an early Mastodon album. they are both very melodic/easy to listen to while being harsher and more technical than typical rock. Blood Mountain is my favorite and I think a good intro but Leviathan would probably also work

I dont care about what other people think about the albums/artists i like. I like them because im usually so emotionally attached to their music. I love Tegan and Sara for this exact reason, and thats probably why ill live 90% of their work from now until i fucking die. Sure, Heartthrob was messy but id be lying through my teeth if i said i didnt like Love You to Death.

>Loveless and Souvlaki are overrated And Deathconsciousness is better than those
>Plastic Beach is the 2010 AOTY
>Hail To The Thief >>>> In Rainbows
>Grunge > Shoegaze
>MBDTF was never a huge deal
>Good News For People Who Love Bad News > The Lonesome Crowded West and The Moon & Antarctica
>The Dark Side Of The Moon is boring
>Horses is the best 70's album

That's all I got.

I sometimes listen to individual songs on a playlist rather than whole albums at a time.

>>74265411
>Most people really loathe The Who here, and I'm not quite sure why. It's definitely one of those bands that's really influential and everyone just kind of ignores.
Everyone loves Baba O'Riley.

>>74257832
Nickleback is good.

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>>74265528
>I like them because im usually so emotionally attached to their music
I just don't think most people who listen to music on here or these days really make this connection, and that's why most music discussion seems so superficial, or memes, or no searching besides entery level stuff

>>74259844
/shugazi/, last fm, /dark/, /meal/ and Chart at times, sharethreads as far as I've seen

oblivion access > mista thug isolation

Arctic Monkeys are fucking terrible

>>74265672
/bleep/ too if you ignore everything that isn't a link to a song

>>74265528
i disagree about ly2d, i found it really disappointing, but i agree about the rest, i can even feel myself becoming less emotionally attached to the music i love and i dont know how to go back to how i used to be
also mad love for t&s

>>74265715
Thank you

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Ween is overrated as fuck and pretty annoying.

>>74265801
this
they're they might be giants for pseuds

Kamasi Washington ia good

>>74258153
I agree Pac and Biggie are overrated but they weren't even nearly the best of the 90s, also that wasn't even the golden age of hip hop.

Modern rock sucks because its bland af, bands these days seem so muted. They lack a certain je ne sais quoi that made rock so great in the first place.

>>74265753
I loved the album. I thought that their melodies and production hit the mark of what they were trying to do, and it hits me where it needs to for me to like it. I love it more than Heartthrob. Heartthrob had more issues and etc and general cheesiness than LY2D. I totally understand if someone does not like Ly2d, however.

>>74259798
I agree, especially on the humor.

>>74260781
Not trying to be edgy, but you're right.
Every black person I've met has been obnoxious as fuck. I know they're not all like that, but fuck. They're annoying to me, and so is rap.

>>74263337
It's nostalgia, I heard about Amnesiac and Kid A in late 2002 from people who told me they were "dark and sad". Those albums sound like how exploring the early internet feels, they sound like playing a playstation one era game is, the low polygon count and the fog surrounding you on all sides. I think in some way or another one of Radiohead's albums is like that to people.

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>>74259530
this Radiohead are hot garbage

>>74265202
Your just gonna group my beach house post with all those radiohead ones?

live music can't compare to a well-produced studio mix

Pablo Honey is better than TKOL.
But then again, TKOL is better than Kid A and Hail to the Thief.

>>74265939
i wasn't a big fan of either desu but there are still a couple of tracks from heartthrob that i listen to today whereas i didn't feel at compelled to listen to ly2d since about a week after its release
when it comes down to it i think it was just further removed from the t&s that i love so much so i didnt like it comparison

>>74265903
This. Rock doesnt have that youthful energy and reckless abandonment that it had during the 60s-90s. Same goes for metal too.

>>74264812
>punk is trash
>controversial
Punk's greatest gift to the world is making aspiring musicians think to themselves "I can make better music than this trash" and then giving them the energy to do it, thus creating the punk influenced genres.

>>74266007
that wasnt intetional sorry, i just saw a bunch of posts i disagreed with together
but i never really thought beach house were anything too special, i dont dislike them but they never stood out to me
i dont think theyre as creative as the flaming lips, they dont have as much character as of montreal, theyre not as exciting as anco and theyre not as diverse as gorrilaz
i just personally feel like everything they do is done better by someone else

>>74266038
you know what, you make a really good point

>>74264812
>/pol/ ruined with their male version of feminism
explain

I hate all the soft voice sadboi vocals in most indie music.

>>74258221
I agree. She's a milf.

>>74266027
Don't get me wrong, i love tracks like Love They Say, Closer, and Drove Me Wild etc.
It's probably a personal taste thing, but i felt that on Heartthrob they were dipping their toes in the snyth-pop sound but it didnt have that T&S style emotional personality to it. And desu its hard for me to look at songs like 100x, Boyfriend, and BWU and not feel T&S's personality breaking through. After all, thats we love albums like Sainthood, If It Was You, The Con and So Jealous.

The Beatles are the greatest band of all time bar none. I instantly think less of someone's musical taste if they say they suck.

>>74266400
I agree on the second half for sure
Don't think they're the greatest band ever but I'm pretty sure everyone who says they suck is a contrarian looking for approval

>Kendrick Lamar's voice is horrible. His beats are good, but his delivery and lyrics are cringeworthy. Damn was, however, better than anything else he released previously.
>Every Beach Boys album from Today to Friends was better than anything The Beatles ever recorded.
>Chance the Rapper is one of the best rappers right now. I think he will release a magnum opus comparable to MBDTF in upcoming years.
>Every Mac Demarco song released after 2 sounds exactly the same.
>If Kevin Barnes went all in on recording more albums like Paralytic Stalks, he'd be a considered a genius.
>David Bowie was a fantastic musician, but vastly overrated. His first album was garbage and every album after the Berlin Trilogy (with the exception of Scary Monsters) was cringey pandering to dance music trends.

That's all I can think of.

>>74263536
Yes. Can any anons recommend albums similar to Teens of Denial?

>>74266482
Man i totally want to dance to Black Star, youre so right man.

>>74266521
I'll make an exception for Blackstar and that weird shift to Industrial music.

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This is kinda shitty

Lullabies is the best Queens of the Stone Age album

>>74258332
Kill urself my man

>>74259617
Me too

>>74259356
Agreed. One of the worst Radiohead tracks. Here's another unpopular opinion:

Hail to the Thief is worse than the King of Limbs

>>74265801
Damn, even their later material?

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I actually really like pic related

Ok Computer > Amnesiac > Kid A

Kanye > Kendrick but I dont really like them that much

Jazz is one of the best if not the best genres of music

Joni Mitchell > Bob Dylan

Painting With is underrated

if you remove hip hop/rap, the 2010s is the 3rd or 4th best decade for music since the 50s

if you remove hip hop/rap, the 2000s is the worst decade for music since the 50s (mostly because of the removal of Stones Throw)

Avey Tare was better at DIY in his early years than Ariel Pink was in his entire career, that said, Ariel Pink is one of the best artists of the 2000s/2010s and hasnt made a bad solo or Haunted Graffiti album.

Sun Kil Moon > Red House Painters

What Kozelek is doing right now is genuinely different and potentially innovative but sadly no one is giving him that credit he deserves.

Rap, metal, and country all have one thing in common; theres a lot of crap, but when its good, its REALLY good, metal seems to have the most good albums, which mostly fall under the category of hipster metal.

Sleep Cycle is a 10/10

Gorillaz (7/10) > Demon Days (5/10) > Humanz (4/10) > Plastic Beach (3-4/10)
at least Humanz has "Charger"

Death Grips are at their best when they try to be more "abstract" (ex: NOTM, GP, some parts of ExM) as opposed to "agressive" (NLDW, BP, JD)

I just like music and only visit the board to look into any albums i haven't heard of.

>>74267141
On your Death Grips comment. I think dividing the albums and eps of the band is a helpful way to interpet the sound they are trying to achieve. I think this "abstract" sound you are mentioning to be best heard in Have A Sad Cum, there is not typical prideful rap lyrics here, mostly repeating of the motifs and expermentation and then a transition to the next song. The "agressive" sound however is more difficult for me to find as those albums you mentioned are the ones I dislike the most and have listened to the least of the discrography.

Father John Misty is one of the best live performers and on-stage personas of this generation of any genre. ILYHB is a masterpiece of songwriting.

>>74259617
Me too

I think the ranking of Radiohead albums is pointless. The lack of consensus just shows how little difference there is quality wise. If only three or four albums are being mentioned in a certain thread someone will suddenly bring another one up.

>Amnesiac > Kid A > OKC > Everything else
to
>The Bends > OKC >> Amnesiac > Everything else
to
>IR > The Bends > TKOL >>> Shit > Everything else
to
>HTTT >>> Pablo Honey > everything else

>>74258642
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>>74267011
>>74267141

And it never ends, no ones opinion will be swayed by these rankings after they have listened to all the albums.

Warning>American Idiot
Maladroit>Blue
The Wall>Wish You Were Here>DSOTM
Debut>Post
There Is Nothing Left To Lose>The Colour And The Shape
Ellipsis>Only Revolutions

>>74267141
>Sun Kil Moon > RHP
No.

>>74266163
Me too

I recognize the bass talent of Les Claypool but Primus is wasted potential.

>>74258071
Yeah pop was shit, but pops always been shit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9_lW36Faos

>>74268045
top one is true my dude.

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This is a good album

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i only have fun listening to anco anymore

literally everything else is a chore to listen to

what has happened to me

>>74258935
Same tbqh

>>74259709
This doesn't even remotely make sense

>>74267141
>Death Grips are at their best when they try to be more "abstract" (ex: NOTM, GP, some parts of ExM) as opposed to "agressive" (NLDW, BP, JD)
I disagree. I think DG is at their best when they're intermixing and being influenced by different genres completely. They're one of the most successful artists who combine rap and rock together, which is something that seems like it'd be easier than it is but finding artists who actually do it and do it well is actually quite rare.

Like, JD in its entirety is just amazing to me. I love the grimy, organic guitar riffs and the way MC Ride simultaneously seems to rap and yell like a punk rock singer. I loved their more "abstract" stuff on ExM, but didn't care for the sparser, more minimalist stuff they did on NotM or GP.

>>74263804
I don't get the appeal of it either. I really like Channel Orange tho

>>74265144
His voice is annoying aa fuck

>>74258759
i would have believed you if you said Attack Attack!
all Alexandria did was rip them off

Scum fuck flower boy is pretty meh honestly

>>74267135
Most of it is filler

>>74267141
I fucking hate Sun Kil Moon, Red House Painters and Mark Kozelek himself

There is literally nothing wrong with liking Sunbather or Hospice.

Old Ramon is my favorite Red House Painters album. I don't really like their depressing stuff, they are more endearing when they are just sentimental.

>>74270934
I actually listened to Hospice for the first time in years again the other day and it was way better than I remember it being.

>>74270911
its hardcore pretentious hipster shit

>>74257832
I think it's wrong, disgusting and violently misogynistic how /mu/ fetishizes female musicians.

WEEN ARE FUCKING TRASH I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE CAN ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THAT SHIT

>>74271244
I mean people worship radiohead and slint here, I wouldn't be surprised

>>74271240
Women (and gay men) do this too and I see both, so it's pretty comfy.

I can't STAND black metal and death metal.
A shit ton of it just sounds the same. And the vocals are unbearable.

I enjoy Jazz and it's subgenres. Classic rock, experimental rock, alternative rock, Afrobeat, IDM, Soul, Pop, Funk, Blues, Dnb, Folk, Folktronica, Ambient, Classical, Medieval, Punk, New Wave, Post-Punk, Post-Rock, Hip-Hop, Experimental Hip-Hop, Boognish... But fuck Death Metal and Black Metal.

>>74271244
That's exactly how I felt when I first listened to them, until I started actually listening to their albums and understanding their music. But I can understand why people wouldn't like them.

>>74266546
The title track is pretty shit.

>>74257832
Scumfuck Flower Boy is not Tyler's greatest album yet and should be considered a solid 7/10, and everyone's so caught up in the hype that saying that is regarded as stupid or bait. I like the album a lot and his production has definitely improved, but it seems to have come at the cost of the lyricism I've liked him for over the years. And I'm not talking the edgy shit, but the great ways he was able to rap about the edgy shit, if that makes sense