KPOP GENERAL

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https://youtu.be/zYoYoBtLqOY
https://youtu.be/kowfLIRpQaU
https://youtu.be/n8I8QGFA1oM
https://youtu.be/qsWl1--Niyg
https://youtu.be/fwN_Axs7pL4
https://youtu.be/nQm_9nbY_7U
https://youtu.be/xF3MC8PWgJE
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https://youtu.be/Med2XipHJJM
https://youtu.be/glXgSSOKlls
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https://youtu.be/1pBgMBBsv4k
https://youtu.be/zO9RzrhYR-I
https://youtu.be/FYqfHaAkplw
https://youtu.be/ui_YY5mJZT4
https://youtu.be/LNZKqhXCv5c
https://youtu.be/LJVUjmNMF8c
https://youtu.be/rJYDix4FttA
https://youtu.be/i1n_1jrUEjU
https://youtu.be/Amq-qlqbjYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBbeuXW8Nko

SOTY

>>74216084
this is not excuse me

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>>74216080
>bestie

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>>74216025
>what about Mark ?
word he's the best

jin and sehun are the best useless visuals in kpop

>>74216067
GOOD thread, this is an official RV discussion

Rate albums

The Red> Rookie> Red Flavor > Ice Cream Cake> The Velvet> Russian Roulette

*mournfully shreds on kazoo with accompanying castanets in your path*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t18wtSIHWd0

>>74216126
You forgot Minho

Vote

http://www.strawpoll.me/13562816

>>74216080
> has gaypop
> has the objectively worst IU album
> has hag hyori
Worst link spam post i've ever seen

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>>74216043
you know your stuff, buddy

>>74216112
Born: August 2, 1999 (age 17)

>>74216147
he goes to school with arin and kang mina

>>74216129
>rookie being that high
>red flavor not being dead last
>russian roulette being dead last
we're off to a bad start, i think it's time to stop

>>74216102
i dreamt about that once

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>>74216080
>BOYFRIEND - Love Style
makes me smile every time

GOOD thread, this an official RV bashing thread

Rate the members looks

Irene >>> a turtle >>> the rest

>>74216129
the red > icc > rookie > red flavor > the velvet > rr

>>74216126
how tall is jin?

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>>74216129
swap the velvet and ice cream cake and ill give you a word

>>74216147
>a few more days
based

>>74216166
>letting title songs sway your decision

shameful desu

>>74216099
don't forgot to watch betsy's youtube songs and root for her on the failed idol show

>>74216170
hyosung called, she wants her gumline back

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>>74216147
our guy is gonna be a star when he gets older

>>74216080
that's the only Boyfriend album that has a good song.
One.
and it's like 1 minutes long

>>74216186
i'm talking about albums, not title songs

>>74216174
taller than every bts except rapmon i think. but even if he's not sehun tall he makes up for it in shoulder width.

>>74216187
>the failed idol show

?

>>74216129
The Velvet > The Red > Rookie > Russian Roulette > Ice Cream Cake > Red Flavor

>>74216129
Just realized I called Red Summer Red Flavor rip

>>74216218
I love Umji

>>74216145
id love to be a fly on the wall in their dorm room. i bet theyre so cute together and id love to see what sinb is like behind closed doors. she puts up such a tough front i bet shes really soft deep down

>>74216204
russian roulette is easily the second worst rv album

>>74216166
rookie has excellent bsides
red summer has great bsides
rr has just ok bsides

>>74216186
> You forgot that the autists here only listen to the titlesong because their attention span is so short

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>>74216147
and?

>>74216177
what's happening

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>>74216218

>>74216219
the new show where failed idols get a second chance

>>74216136
Jonghyun is the most underrated man in kpop

>>74216126
jin isn't even the group's best visual or second best visual

>>74216227
no

>>74216204
Rookie has a weak title song but the rest of the album is some of their best imo

>>74216190
He's absolutely fully capable

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>>74216240

>>74216126
they're only useless because the other members keep hogging away their lines

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>>74216126
fuck you

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>>74216262
>>74216145

Rap Monster (Height: 181 cm/5’11
Jin (Height: 179 cm/5’10.5″
Suga (Height 176 cm/5’9″
J-Hope (Height: 177 cm/5’10”
Jimin (Height: 175 cm/5’9″
V (Height 179 cm/5’10.5″
Jungkook (Height: 178 cm/5’10”

>>74216243
he has the best voice in kpop and his lyrics are great

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>>74216225
word

>>74216244
who are they then

>>74216280
No way they are those heights tho

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who puzzle here

>>74216084
After sleeping a day this sounds better than yesterday

>>74216280
wow they could almost pass for human males

>>74216280
kek i had no idea rapping monster was the tallest
i thought suga was the shortest too

>>74216280
yeah and kyungsoo is totally 5'8"

>>74216280
BTS BTFO. They cant even surpass pcy and sehun.

>>74216299
it's amazing how they keep having great bsides

>>74216252
rookie is good its just a hard listen
i still agree that its on the lower half of their tiltle tracks

>>74216290
He's also the best songwriter that's also an idol

>>74216280
much better overall than the exomanlets at least

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Comeback when?

>>74216280
Jimin is at least 5'7"

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>>74216208
word

>>74216280
Rap monster and J-Hope are uggo monsters and V and Jungkook are samefag.

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>>74216293
obviously

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Leave jin alone

>>74216322
> Hard listen
> rookie
Only if you're an autist

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>>74216129
putting the velvet that low feels like sacrilege but the mini was pretty botched so i cant really blame you
still OOTN is great plus CHSL and light me up is one of their best bsides

>>74216347
thats what happens when nobody cares about you LMAO

>>74216347
choafag keeps taking Ls i almost feel bad for him... almost.

>>74216355
jungkook is kind of fucking ugly dude
v is pretty good

post qt womanlets except bebsol

>>74216356
cute chimp

>>74216244
>Jin isnt the best visual in BTS
LMAO

>>74216099
>doesn't like bestie

>>74216142
>doesn't like bropop, the best iu album, or lee hyori's banger album

>>74216170
>>74216198
>doesn't like sweetune masterpieces

>>74216202
it would if most them weren't over half filler

Suga and V are my favorite visuals in BTS

I know I might be retarded but this is my opinion

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*winks at you in a musical way*

>>74216356
goddess

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>>74216355
wrong

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>>74216375

>>74216392
have you listened to the war
i haven't listened to exo's other albums yet but i really liked that one, it was solid

>>74216373
he was just the pedobait of the group for awhile. once he matures and loses that charm he's gonna be another run of the mill member

>>74216394
nothing wrong with that. suga is cute and v is the most generically handsome asian boy alive.

>>74216394
honestly aside from the two visual holes they're all alright

>>74216135
>implying good luck was good

>>74216415
maybe she does, but you sure dont. truthfully its probably your fault. all that negative karma you built up spamming choa pictures and pushing your 'p-please love choa' agenda... you basically asked for it

>>74216367
I like RV a lot so putting The Velvet that low doesn't mean I think its bad because OOTN is really really good

But for an album that showcases their velvet side, none of the songs really came close to Automatic or even Be Natural

>>74216415
im glad choa worked and spent hours perfecting her vocals only to have it come crashing down while seolhyun did nothing and received 10x her paycheck LMAO

>>74216404
She looks like a child especially with that outfit, why'd they put her in the middle though?

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>>74216084
I was about to type something mean but 2 minutes into the song its already grown on me

seeing them together like this... loona's visuals are out of this world

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRBQGO3B7qs

nice

Suho - Height: 173 cm (5’8″)
Xiumin - Height: 173 cm (5’8″)
Lay - Height: 177 cm (5’10”)
Baekhyun - Height: 174 cm (5’9″)
Chen - Height: 173 cm (5’8″)
Chanyeol - Height: 185 cm (6’1″)
D.O. - Height: 173 cm (5’8″)
Kai - Height: 182 cm (6’0″)
Sehun - Height: 183 cm (6’0″)

exoshitters will defend this

>>74216460
aesthetics, putting your shortest at the end doesnt look good

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>>74216460
probably to mingle with the other two womanlets that werent wearing heels to it wasnt so jarring

>>74216475
>over half the group are 5'10 or shorter
wew

>>74216475
we love manlets

>>74216475
they're probably even shorter than that

>>74216475
no way kai is 6 ft

>>74216475
Baekhyun is 5'8''(172 cm)

the only cho I love is cho rong

>>74216447
i dont know what people see in automatic, how is it better than cool hot sweet love?

>>74216484
you ruined choa for me tho. you were even warned this would happen. if you really are THE choafag we've had this conversation before. I told you all the spamming and pissing everyone else off would come back to bite you. didnt I? didnt it?

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>5'8"

I honestly think Jin is really ugly. He has little brother kool aid lips.

>>74216513
chsl is boring

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>>74216484
i don't hate her

>>74216513
It just sounds really smooth to me, the group harmonizes so well in it

>>74216475
>the tallest ones are the talentless

>>74216513
this, automatic is legit boring

>>74216475
Two of the tallest members left, Luhan has not that manlet too

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>>74216524
at least he has lips instead of being a lipless monster

>>74216521
ravi spotted

>>74216513
>if it's lower than 200 bpm then it's boring
go take your adhd pills

>>74216525
but automatic is the boring one

>>74216553
>caught talking about yourself in the third person again
lmao why do you even bother

>>74216539
meant to say was*

can somebody please post seo jisoo when she's being super pretty? (basically any jisoo pic will do)

So KPG is essentially Red Velvet and Gaypoppers. Got it.

twice was a mistake

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>>74216540
no homo but jimin has the best lips in the industry

>>74216521
probably shorter than that
I'm sure most boygroups exaggerate their heights

>>74216578
here you go

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bow

>>74216594
>no homo

>>74216554
what did you mean by this

>>74216594
in fact very homo

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>>74216594

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>>74216114
i don't know...

>>74216532
im not saying its bad im just wondering how people like it more than chsl

>>74216524
he's not ugly let alone really ugly

>>74216067
skendy ...

>>74216615
yes it was, the post got deleted at the same time as your choa posts

>>74216347
seolhyun brought in all the money, so it's only fair that she got the biggest share

Red Flavor is the best RV title track

>>74216164
wtf I hate Mark now

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Onew is the least gay Shinee.
Minho likes to grope dudes

>>74216648
>Red Flavor is the best RV title track
is this some new kpg meme?

>>74216138
>the asexual
which one is this supposed to be? taemin?

>>74216648
nope its still dumb dumb and will likely never be dethroned

>>74216664
it's some new kpg truth

>>74216594
i can't tell who's more in denial about their raging homosexuality, the ratshitters or the jiminshitters

>>74216594
someone post that one picture of his bratz lips without concealer

jin is only suho-tier in the visual dept. sehun alone wipes the floor with all seven of them combined

>>74216660
I'd word this
Seems like a nice vanilla boy

>>74216685
i'm completely straight it's just that i think xiumin is a cool guy

>>74216628
CHSL to me is a bit all over the place. It's like a mixture of Red techno instrumentals and velvet lyrics

Plus the whispery "cooooool hottttt sweet loooovee" is kinda weird to me

>>74216669
I think so. Taemin just kind of acts oblivious to anyone's presence

>>74216615
it was different man.. you know it was different. i agree that there are other spam poster offenders but like... that doesn't make you any less 'guilty.' the people that catch heat from kpg anons for spamming usually stop. you never did, you just kept on going and going.

bae (bae)
joo (hyun)

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>>74216687
this one?

>>74216648
Nothing will ever top Dumb Dumb

>One of their top 3 songs
>Best MV aesthetic and visuals
>Best choreography

wake up is so fun

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>>74216589
>So KPG is essentially Red Velvet
problem?

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>>74216695
And he has manly hobbies, like cars

>>74216404
PARK SOOYOUNGGGG!

What is SHINee's best song/album?

>>74216690
sehun is a fucking uggo though, both jin and suho are nice

>>74216741
is this shopped

f*ck gaypoppers, where are the bunnybros?

>>74216767
yes

>>74216721
okay maybe you are right, but how do i get everyone to like choa again?

>>74216757
This is tough for me.

I think 1 of 1 is their most cohesive, well put together album. Probably their best. Married to the Music is quintessentially SHINee though, and has what is probably their best song, Odd. Prism and Sherlock are other candidates for their best songs though.

>>74216757
1 of 1 > Misconceptions > Odd

>>74216757
1 of 1 is one of the greatest gaypop albums ever

>>74216741
yes I do because I'm a straight guy

>>74216741
Can someone post a non edited version

>>74216589
It's damn near impossible to discuss any other groups on kpg because of shitposting, might as well just dump some links and say good song and call it a day.

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>>74216798

Dreamcatcher is shit.
Pristin is shit.
KARD is shit.

All of the new groups lately have been awful

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>>74216793
if you look at this and get disgusted you might not be as straight as you previously thought

what's that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai0mWTtLOP0

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>>74216812
fixed it

>>74216779
truthfully it might be too late for choa here. though they say time heals all wounds. just wait it out, even t-ara became beloved again. if t-ara can get respect again, so can choa.

I don't listen to songs without mvs

>>74216845
>even t-ara became beloved again
no they didnt, its the same 2 people its always been that post them

>>74216814
>Dreamcatcher is shit.
>Pristin is shit.
wrong

>>74216814
well... wee woo is shit

>>74216805
rebehbehluvs spam their lesbians non stop here so i'ts hard to discuss other groups

>>74216842
much better

>>74216733
no, it was a different one but this works

>>74216834
pretty much the greatest 2 minutes of recorded footage in human history

>>74216846
autism

>>74216513
Automatic is without argument the best RV song by miles. Mostly because Yeri had no lines in it.

Reminder that we could have had a timeline with Wonder Girls instead of Twice

>>74216846
t. Twice fan

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>>74216842
who do you think you are

>>74216814
>Pristin is shit.

I still can't figure out why kpg hates pristin so much. Either it's one autistic guy saying it every chance he gets or just a whole lot of shit taste

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>>74216855

>>74216871
theres nothing to like

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>>74216578

>>74216822
their concepts are aimed at girls. And btw, Irene is the only pretty rv member

post doyboy

>>74216863
Twice 0 listenable B-Sides so can you blame him

>>74216862
in a parallel dimension

>>74216848
i just mean in general. t-ara hate was universal, choa hate extends further than kpg nowadays.

>>74216872
ridiculous

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I wanted to hate MM but I like them, am i retarded?

>>74216872
that's the one, thanks
brb

>>74216871
Well, the quality of the music, the girls and the company they are a part of is fucking garbage and they have been forced since day fucking one by autists all around here

>>74216871
The ARF ARF in Black Widow makes me uncomfortable

They're probably sex slaves

>>74216877
>>74216895
found the autist

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>>74216891
Why would you want to hate them?
Mamamoo are great

Pledis could have been so much more

>>74216871
they were shilled ridiculously hard predebut and then their debut was a shitty flop

>>74216891
you're retarded for asking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px2Q47O0_eE

>those outfits
>that dance
>the smoothness
>the harmony
>that flawless Yeri transition at 1:14

How can anyone not think Automatic is a top 5 RV song?

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>>74216893

>>74216774
if you mean this cumbunny >>74216820 then I'm in

>>74216891
hwasa fine af

>>74216820
best post all thread

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>>74216871

>>74216891
no just a girl

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>>74216871
oh look who's here>>74216895

are mamamoo or red velvet more lesbionic?

>>74216879
>its the "if their fanbase is majority female, males can't like them" retard again

The thing that pisses me off about Pristin the most is that After School was 100% ready to come back in 2016, then they went "Nah, we are gonna debut this other group instead and shelf you indefinitely, sorry After School"

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>>74216774
bunnybros love gaypop, especially Seventeen and NCTdream

>>74216934
mamamoo is ONLY liked by lesbians, red velvet is liked by everyone

>>74216937
they are not cute and their songs suck.

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>>74216879
what part of this concept is more suited for girls than guys
its not their fault girls fall for them too

>>74216958
lol

>>74216939
how was after school doing?

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>>74216951
>nctdream

>>74216928
what the fuck is this actually, how is this much different than what the companies are doing with their sajaegi?

>>74216883
>says increasingly nervous nugushitter for the ten thousandth time
Twice's Bsides could save your favs career

>>74216891
hwasa's silly face is just her regular face

>>74216871
Well considering Pisstin was shilled to hell and back on debut then they flopped digitally and physically you can see why we fucking despise them, it shows how retarded i-fan roaches can be

>>74216757
1 and 1

>>74216784
>>74216785
>>74216789
the repackage is actually better for once because of Tell me what to do

>>74216956
>red velvet is liked by everyone
yes. But only 20% of those are males

>>74216928
what is this picture supposed to be of?

>>74216956
rv's concert had more girls attending compared to mamamoo or taemin's concert

>>74216989
same as soshi, your point?

>>74216988
I actually am not crazy about any of the repackage songs for 1 of 1 and I don't like that they're shoved all in the beginning of the album.

>>74216975
its one fan

>>74216999
source?

>>74216475
also have to subtract 2-3 inches because celeb heights are inflate

>>74216757
Normally I would say 1 and 1 but I gave Misconceptions a re-listen the other day and holy fuck does that album hold up. Not a single bad song on it.

>>74216975
their albums , wee woo, mv, songs, mediaplay, uggo idols, the company are trash.

>>74216969
Only Irene is cute and their songs are just chaotic noise

>>74216871
theyre all uggos except one, their songs are Lovelyz tier garbage, and cripplechimp likes then.

>>74216999
because mamamemers are young teenagers that need their parents to go with them

>>74216978
twice doesnt have a single bside over 70k downloads

>>74216962
it doesn't matter how they dress, their songs and their concepts are aimed at girls.

>>74216988
Tell me what to do is great but the others songs are not, I would prefer if they released it as a single

>>74217010
but Tell me what to do is the 3rd best song on the entire thing

>>74217020
>>74217051
saying the same thing over and over doesn't make it true

>>74217031
Unlike us 40 year old MEN that can go to any kpop concert we want! Haha talk that teenagers you stupid idiots

han hyeri...

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>>74216475

>>74217064
heres one right now, who is so angry they can't type correctly

>>74217026
sounds like pristin is patrician to me

>>74216989
>Mamamoo has more male fans than RV according to melon

>>74217058
You fucking idiot SM literally said this about RV

>>74217053
sure but it's still better to have it than skip the repackage with tell me what to do entirely. easy to ignore the other songs. i dont even remember what they're called

>>74217080
he said that about girl groups in general friendo, which includes soshi and f(x) yet i never see you sperg about them

>>74217054
I would put Prism, Shift, and Don't Stop all ahead of it, but I guess that makes it still 4th.

>>74217079
I'm retarded, that was meant for >>74216956

>>74217058
Joy, Wendy, Yeri and Seulgi are far from being visuals and the stats prove that they want to please girls.

>>74216997
a pile of trash

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only you-u-u

>>74217096
1. 1 of 1
2. don't let me go
3. tell me what to do

would be the correct ranking, anon

>>74217073
Oh no you caught me in the act. WTF fuck off u dum stupid teenarger

>>74217094
but soshi on the other hand had a huge male following

>>74216304
>literally every song

>>74217127
but still majority female

>>74217120
1 of 1 is honestly the most basic song on the album. The rest of it is a lot more interesting.

>>74217112
what a perfect qt

>>74217012
i can't find the one for mamamoo's stats but this one is red velvet and taemin
they also had more listeners to red flavor who were women than men compared to kokobop one time, don't know if that's still true

>>74216084
that's not

https://youtu.be/i1n_1jrUEjU
https://youtu.be/7cjZFjWBZI0
https://youtu.be/rJYDix4FttA
https://youtu.be/Amq-qlqbjYA

>>74217120
this but feel good instead of 1 of 1

>>74217008
>same as soshi
I have no idea about the current gender ratio for sones by I know for a fact that almost half of their fanbase were males.

>>74217067
i've never wanted to be tao more

>>74217155
>almost half
lol no, its always been 70%+ female

>>74217145
it's all about the mood it creates. 1 of 1 got me into shinee. i'm not even ashamed of liking gaypop anymore. it's so unbelievably good

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>>74217151
dropped pic

>>74217132
the difference is clear: red velvet has a way higher percentage of female fans than soshi had.

>>74217152
awful taste, coloring book is the only good song

>>74217164
The album is wistfully walking through a park in the fall wearing a peacoat core

>>74217102
How can you believe not one of RV's members besides Irene are visuals? They're all insanely pretty, especially Joy and Wendy

>>74217170
>arguing about less than 2%
>doesnt take into account sample size or anything else

>>74217189
sample size is a meme

>>74217180
snsd was a meme tho

>>74217162
>its always been 70%+ female

No? It was always 55% female 45% male

>>74217182
omgshitters have such terrible taste

>>74217180
but soshi were aimed at females too, which means according to you males shouldnt like them
>>74217187
after that post i'm convinced that he's baiting so i stopped replying

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>>74217170
Mamamoo's first concert was this stat.

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>>74217183
gimme a minute to think about that

revels are homos, explains a lot

let's not let the issue of whether soshi were aimed at males or females distract us from the fact that Mr. Mr. is easily their best song

>>74217200
how terribly uninformed you are

reminder wannie is fookin perfect lads

>>74217187
I doubt and RV member besides Irene would make it to the top 100 female kpop idols

>>74217102
Joy and Seulgi are solid visuals

>>74216299
so g-g-g-g-good

>>74217232
seulgi is ahead of irene on that one meme list of 100 woman (not just korean)
they are all in top 100 in every kpop list ive seen

you can stop now, its clear that you have nothing to back up your claims

>>74217210
but they always had a huge male fanbase, you moron
>>74217226
you're clearly not a sone

>>74217189
they beat him in that aspect but it's true that 2% is little
but rv is mostly liked by mostly girls, not everyone imo, their fanbase is too skewed

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>>74217102
take that back

>>74217201
this

>>74217238
>>74217255
That list is bs. Many uggos made it to the top 10

>>74217257
>but they always had a huge male fanbase
because they have a huge fanbase in general

30% of soshis fanbase is still huge, obviously

yeri...

>>74217211
well i was wrong, mamamoo had more female concert goers than rv had

>>74217272
>i bet they wouldn't be on those meaningless lists
>"actually they are"
>those dont count

>>74217182
i think it's the 4th best song there and omg is the group i post the most

how did we get Park from 박?

the only legitimate kpop beauty ranking list is the kpopalypse one

>>74217310
no wonder your taste is so bad

>>74217315
word

>>74217315
kys aj

>>74217315
except for choa because those votes are proxied. probably seolhyun too

>>74217282
>30%

dude I'm 100% sure you're not a sone or you're one of those new fans who came after IGAB
>>74217308
Yoona was in 15th place. That list is not reliable

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http://tv.naver.com/v/1900310

>>74217326
but that's the main reason it's legitimate

>>74217334
>That list is not reliable
im not the one that claimed they were, i dont take any of those lists seriously but you're the one that brought them up

>>74217340
more male fans means they're more appealing to men

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>>74217283
this is my cue

>>74217340
i dont quite get that guys argument either or why he brings it up every other day

>>74217340
we like cute girls and cute concepts but we also like good music and clearly mamamoo and rv don't have that.

>>74216685
i don't even think of the ratshitters as homos, they're just... deviants

>>74217372
he's just baiting

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>>74217345
neat

red velvet posting is basically the same as gaypop posting at this point

>>74217383
i hope so, for his sake

>>74217314
how did we get lee from 이?

>>74217340
it doesn't matter. they would just find some other number and make shit up for that

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>>74217389
me on the right reading this

>>74217382
they're deviant homos

>>74217376
male dominated fanbases are only in it for the fapping, which is why they aren't very popular compared to groups with a mostly female fanbase and don't last near as long

>>74217340
Female fans are pretty much known for being more loyal as compared to male fans.

Eg. Most male groups with large female populations survive a long time while slutpop groups with large male populations make it 2-3 years max.

>>74217353
the only reliable beauty rankings are the ones where the public rank the idols

>>74217324
aj? you think asian junkie is kpopalypse? lol

http://www.asianjunkie.com/2017/07/28/jessica-working-on-stealing-ayesha-curry-from-steph-curry-she-wont-blow-a-3-1-lead/

>>74217412
I dont think anyone faps to lovelyz or gfriend

>>74217419
the "public" on those lists are 100 people

>>74217389
you're not wrong

choa thread?

>>74217412
how do you explain akb then

>>74217443
>>74217443

>>74217440
yes you are

>>74217430
i do it to lovelyz all the time

>>74217430
purepop is a "different" kind of attraction.... like young schoolgirls for example *cough*

>>74217430
you're wrong

>>74217399
no. It seems like girls would go for ''le strong female model'' and less for the music
>>74217412
> they aren't very popular
what's Twice, Gfriend, SNSD(until certain point)? I'd also add Apink to the list but they have been flopping for too long

>>74217430
Well you're wrong bucko

>>74216145
Sinbased!!