Schaeffer > Cage > Stockhausen
>>74184795
No. Let's be glad all of them made music.
>>74184795
How can you even compare them? They have absolutely nothing in common. Cage and Stockhausen were even the direct opposites of each other.
Stockhausen> Cage > Schaeffer
>>74185233
Pretty much this
>>74185233
>>74185403
Stockhausen is the Queen of electronic
>>74185413
And may her name be hallowed
Schoenberg>
Stockhausen > Schaeffer > Cage
Overall I'd say that Schaeffer was the most even stylistically, since he mostly did really good work in musique concrete. I prefer Stockhausen's electronic work over his other stuff (like his orchestral works), while Cage didn't make much stuff that I really enjoyed.
Ferrari >
>>74185233
>>74185445
Most correct posts.
>>74185464
>Stockhausen's electronic work over his other stuff (like his orchestral works)
Why? His electronic work didn't age particularly well, unlike his other stuff
>>74187339
I think his electronic stuff has aged great, especially Gesang der Jünglinge. I first listened to that in 2011 and it still sounds fresh to me.
>>74184795
>I only know three (3) composers, which I learned from RYM
Stockhausen > Cage > Schaeffer
Schaeffer was a pioneer but his works don't stand the test of time, they sound cheap and chintzy.
Stockhausen made electronic music into an artform and Cage made it into a free-er form (and inspired Stockhausen's 60's period).
>>74184795
>EDM
>good
fuck off plebs
>>74185205
I think Schaeffer's ideas were better but he wasn't a notable composer in particular. All the other GRM composers ended up making better music.
>>74187439
>Schaeffer was a pioneer but his works don't stand the test of time, they sound cheap and chintzy.
listen to Bayle and Parmegiani
Schaeffer > Stockhausen > Cage as far as music goes
Cage > Stockhausen > Schaeffer as far as thinkership goes
>>74187439
Schaeffer still sounds like cool lo-fi hauntologist muzak
Stockhausen is just lol look mom how abstract I am bleep-bloops
Sticky is babbies first electronic composer
Anyone who thinks Stockhausen is below either of the other two strictly in the realm of electronic music probably only listens to this stuff for the gimmick value rather than paying attention to the details in the music itself. Stockhausen has done, by a considerably large margin, the most detailed work in the early electronic realm.
stockhausen >> schaeffer > cage
>>74190397
this
>>74190397
Yeah but his problem is that he was concerned with making it and arranging it rather than the experience of listening to it. Much of the meticulous attention to detail isn't apparent through listening alone. The effort was kind of wasted if you're considering the final product by itself. Schaeffer's empirical approach was ultimately more forward thinking.
>mfw fucking pierre henry died 3 weeks ago and i'm just finding this out today
>>74190717
This is blatantly untrue. It's hard as shit to pick on everything in one listen, that's true, but that's more a result of the music being insanely dense. A person can hear that in Kontakte that the music is constantly moving around, that the sounds' various aspects is changing, that there's a sorta build-up type aspect happening musically in the first few minutes of it, etc.