/prod/ Production general

lol /prod/ is kill

>no link to last thread

Just a WIP idea I've been sitting on. No real direction, just a lot of foley I've recorded and some Vocal Samples.

https://clyp.it/swctm2bp

>>74170441
why is it like this? Did everyone just give up or something?

Hey guys Im wondering if this setup would work
Guitar -> usb interface input -> laptop
Then
Usb interface output -> rca(red white) to 1/4 inch adapter -> amp
If i do this would i be able to send my signal from fl studio out my amp? I also need the adapter as my interface only has one 1/4 inch input and the rest is rca. Id like to do this to use all the pedals in fl instead of dropping all my very limited money on analoh. Is there anything blatantly wrong or anything i need to know?

>>74171885
>>74170441
You guys turned it into a 24/7 general, a.k.a. cancer. there's not a single good general in this website, other than the ones for very, very, very niche subjects that pop out randomly, get to bump limit, and then die silently

>>74172160
how would you fix it Mr. Wiseguy

>>74171929
maybe latency depending on how fast your usb/audio bus is, otherwise this is exactly what i do

my gf said this sounds like a cool theme song and well that hurt a bit
not as tight as i wish it were but that happens when you don't have a band
https://clyp.it/sqnnnaav
https://clyp.it/sqnnnaav

>>74172832
Youre saying that usb 2.0 and above would be best other wise ill have latency issues? Any remedies and or tips since you do it this way?

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https://clyp.it/bs5i1f4c
https://clyp.it/bs5i1f4c
https://clyp.it/bs5i1f4c

does this hold your attention? is this too boring? I want it be:
>comfy
>stratosphere-core
>tortoise-light
all feedback appreciated. the song isn't finished.

>>74173046
yeah, i use my mba and logic, and usb 2.0 has some lag, not enough to break a song, but recording over your own tracks, well sometimes there's timing issues and sure you can fix them easily post production but it's just a bit more work. otherwise if you're just trying to record some stuff there should be no problem, commercial production and mastering well then you might start to have problems.
unless your computer and daw is shit you should be fine

>>74172728
Stop trying to force /prod/ 24/7

i'm starting
tips to make good melodies? what to listen to?

>>74173848
Listen to music you like and learn the melodies by ear (within your understanding of music theory that you're in the process of learning)

>>74171929
Get a di / reamp box

>>74171885
One out of every 4 threads is any good

Week days are generally more slow

I only have a cheap cellphone to record my guitar. Any tips to make it sound the least shitty possible?

hey /prod/ just wondering what's a good autotune plugin for Ableton on PC please and thank you.

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>>74173053
Pretty good anon, have you thought about adding some lo-fi drum machine sounds to the songs though? I think some light rhythm would help fill the mix out better and fit the comfy aesthetic your going for.

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>>74173053

The rhythm section is filled out very nicely, gives off a good vibe, also doesnt feel like the same riff dragging on forever because of the layering. fleshing out the song with more instruments would make it sound great too.

my shit:
https://clyp.it/p2hobhfi

i dont really have any sense of direction when it comes to production, so any general criticism is appreciated.

>>74172851
the guitar tone sounds horrible. Try using less gain? It's always more pronounced when recording, so you need less than you think. The playing could be tighter, as you said.
Otherwise, could be good. A bit meandering at times, but the synth sounds good in some places

https://clyp.it/tuamhnd3

is this cool or just boring

>>74172851
>https://clyp.it/sqnnnaav
your gf is deaf

>>74174414
it's going to sound like shit regardless, just don't place the mic directly infront of you and clip the thing like an idiot. deal with it

>>74174468
get autotune and stop asking this dumb fucking question / trolling

>>74175084
boring desu. at least your drum sound is decent.

>>74172851
>tfw no encouraging gf ;_____________________________________________________________________________________;

yeah shit tone, shit song, shit synth sound

sorry there are no redeeming qualities. get back to writing man.

>>74173053
defs comfy but doesn't hold my attention

normally i'd say the guitar tones need to be different / not clash but i think it's working for you here. i could do with a reverb/drone coming in periodically. i started to feel bored halfway in

>>74174617
you recorded these drums? hats sound too clicky...

feels more like an intro that got dragged on too long as is. i would like the soloing guitar too also be slide or a sweeter tone.... and you missed parts for crazy/slightly out of tune vibrato in there

>>74171044
>https://clyp.it/swctm2bp
good but can i ask you why there are baby noises in the begining?

>>74173848
>https://clyp.it/bs5i1f4c
steal everything that isnt nailed down, its what every pop indie rap, you name it artists does. if you try to hard to invent something new it usually comes out as garbage

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something i made :)

https://clyp.it/2emkvfvr

>>74175705
this is really cool, the sub bass is great. you should raise your percussion a bit more, other than that really solid. havent browsed /mu/ in months so i'll post some of mine too

https://clyp.it/cjez3dod

>>74174468
melodyne!!! dont listen to anyone else, melodyne is what all the big ATL artists that are big right now use.

Think of NAV, migos, young thug, that type of style. they all use Melodyne.

>>74175626
True to an extent but that's an easy way to sound "generic"

Depends how much style you have that would rub off

>>74175844
>all the big ATL artists

Melodyne is good but lmao

>>74174617
I really like this.
That deep bass synth sits just roght with the drums - really like how it sounds. I'd love vocals on this.

>>74171885
I think it's related to the amount of time creating music takes. Sometimes I wont come for weeks cause I'm dry out of ideas, then it'll take a few days of non stop producing just to come up with one clyp. It's only natural that at some points there will be nothing to post.

>>74175705
Heckin vibing with this

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Good day /mu/

Give it to me straight, should I continue or stop making music?
all based on this one link

https://clyp.it/qnhpe45f

>>74175771
The name describes that clyp pretty well. Doesn't sound bad tho but lacking in creativity.

>>74176323
>should I continue or stop making music?
You should start.

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>>74176372
Thank you for being honest

>>74175771
>>74176225
danke :)

>>74176372
Brutal.
>>74176323
It sounds nice, but t.b.h. it sounds like 99% of soundcloud tracks. I mean, if you're going for that sound, go ahead and don't stop! But if you're trying create a more "original" sound, I'd suggest you do some musical exploration to bring individuality into your tracks.

>>74176190
it's because you never post about production techniques in depth and just give entry level advice in response to clyps

How much of a fraud am I?
https://clyp.it/di5xldpj (mine)
https://clyp.it/kiqto0d0

How obvious is it? And that brings up the question, what crosses the line between plagiarism and inspiration?

>>74177952
Most of us are very new at this. There's a couple of guys who come and give actually good advice every now and then but it's hard to keep up quality discussion when most of the users don't know shit.

>>74178055
I plagiarize shit I like all the time, zero fucks given. Just try to make it not blatantly obvious and add some of your touch, so it's not just a shitty version of another song.

>>74170441
>>74171885
>>74172160
>>74172728
>>74173637
have you ever considered that /prod/ may be alive and well because we constantly have anons looking for production advice and feedback? granted, some of the anons that post their clyps here seem to have no idea what an EQ is but is that not what feedback is for?
it's a 24/7 general because there are lots of producers or aspiring producers on /mu/ and /prod/ threads are in high demand. now quit your bitching and rate some clyps.

https://clyp.it/tqdhmryc

WIP

https://clyp.it/svgu12ug

This is a melodic/prog metal thing I'm working on. How do you get a loud mix? Ive put a limiter well near peaking but i wouldnt say it compares to a pro recording.

Also any advice is appreciated, I'm a noob

>>74178764
Mix levels are fucked. That first percussion is too loud. No song structure, might as well post a ten seconds sample. In general, get better at everything. Learn about mixing, synthesis and composing.

>>74178784
Master compression. Guitar sounds fine to me, drum is fucked tho. The panning thing in the quiet part is a bit too pronounced for my taste. I'd bring the lead guitar in the end to the front a bit, feel like it's a bit drowned.

>>74178436
https://www.youtube.com/user/MixWithTheMASTERS/videos

https://www.youtube.com/user/PensadosPlace/videos

http://tapeop.com/

Well binge on this stuff then. There's tons of non-standard non-intuitive tricks to be picked up. I don't get why so many clyp posters are content with halfway sounding like someone else, why not learn to sound like 500 different acts and frankenstein them together so it's you

>>74178784
i like this

so i just realised my computer has nowhere near enough cpu power to competently run a DAW.
>16 voices in serum uses up 40% cpu

i'm thinking of getting an iMac since every DAW other than logic is really daunting to me and the screen real estate would be useful. any iMac owners in here? if so, is it worth the $2000 price tag?

>>74179081
Did I say it was finished, you're stating the obvious. I'm very new to this but I have ears too buddy

>>74179424
>iMac
why would you overpay for trash?

>>74179402
Thanks my dude

>>74179307
I'm learning a lot of resources but it's not as simple as just binging on shit. There's stuff like flanger or compression that is easy to understand how it works and what it does to sound but it takes a lot of experimentation and fucking up to learn how to reach the desired sound.

It's easy to get used to a shitty sound, so lending some ears to tell you that you're fucking up is very useful for learning.

>>74177952
Because most of them need entry level advice lol

>>74178436
You're welcome

>>74179424
Okay serum is very cpu tho

Freeze your tracks or whatever the non ableton version of that is

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>>74179441
>work in track for 5 minutes
>post it for feedback
>"dude this needs a lot of work"
>i know durr it's unfinished

>>74179548
Tbqhwyf it's pretty dumb to post something you think is trash or you know exactly what you need to change already- you won't get useful advice. Maybe just validation

>>74179548
But it's not finished :^}

http://vocaroo.com/i/s06OanDwFXRI

>>74179683
Vocaroo quality is ass. Use clyp.

I would like to pick up a laptop and ableton. What specs should i look for? Unless there are laptops anyone here recommends, cheers.

>>74179861
>What specs should i look for?
good processor (quad core, like 3.5ghz or more probably) decent ram. soundcard doesnt matter because buy an interface, video card doesnt matter because daw stuff is really lightweight graphically

>>74176323
dude, all the shit you are getting is because it fucking staaaalls, its sounds like badly swinged internet lofi hiphop

but
but
double the tempo, give it more work, and you have some better, and kind of different, shit

>>74179861
also
>Unless there are laptops anyone here recommends
i dont really think there's any point in hunting down specific computer models. just go with whatever is available for a good price if the specs are right

>>74179483
whats the point of making shit if you need a youtube tutorial to reach your desired sound, you are just copying someone else and can't execute

limit your devices and experiment till you know them, come up with your own stuff

>>74179483
There's a lot of people who are being incredibly lazy, who haven't even read the manual for the gear they're using who are posting stuff without even thinking if they themselves would listen to it, basically asking "guys did I accidentally make an art"

And you also have people giving dumb criticism where someone can post a reggae track and they get told it needs to sound more like metallica, because that person really likes metallica. I'm exaggerating but that is the kind of thing I see people doing.

I just think clyps are a waste of time and you're better off asking how to get x sound.

Do anyone here have experience in producing trance music? Teach me how to do those basslines

>>74180072
That's retarded. It's like playing an instrument, it's pointless to learn how to play the guitar out of pure intuition when you can learn techniques and chords by learning other people's songs first and then come up with your own. You'd be just wasting time and making a perfectly good instrument sound like crap for months.

>>74180132
lol we obviously have widely different points of view, i exclusively play a prepared guitar, the only thing i give a fuck is about a general idea of how to calculate where the notes might by

why waste my time practicing for 2+ years how to be shit at imitating some good guitarist who spent at least a decade knowing an instrument enough to extract his own style?

though i will hand you that is a good idea to have a main instrument

>>74180120
Clyps have the advantage of song structure, tho. How the sounds blend together, if the transitions make sense and all it implies.

Also I enjoy listening to other anon's clyps. Sometimes cool stuff gets posted and I can ask how they did x sound or anything I'd like to know.

Shitty advice is inevitable but in the end is up to you to chose what advice to listen to. You should be able to tell with your own ears if shit sounds like shit.

>>74180131
filtered saw, triplet timing forced into 4/4, never stepping on the kick

>>74180236

Thanks brother

>>74180212
Well I learnt the guitar practically on my own but I had fun cause I was young. I don't have so much time in my hands anymore to waste time figuring shit out on my own. There's still techniques I was taught I would've never figured out on myself anyways.

I want to get some sort of application or pedal that's capable of doing any vocal effect possible in a live setting. What is my best chance at this?

>>74180296
Im not saying "do everything by yourself", and of course some reading, specially technic/theoric, will catapult you. But honestly man, if you want a specific sound theres tutorials and youtube, but at the same time the thing you are imitating was made by someone who knew the device inside out and invented something so good that now you everyone is copying.

If you want to know how to think "this needs X" and turn a few knobs and find it, you need to get hands on and learn how the device can accomodate to your own style of making music.

>>74180394
I get why you're saying. Learning a mechanic process to make a specific sound without knowing what's happening is pretty stupid, but using tutorials to learn how shit like synthesis or mastering works saves you countless hours of fiddling knobs aimlessly.

>>74180463
the learning material should be general-aimed, thats my point, the fine differences that separate good from crap/formulaic you can only get by having practical experience

its like looking for a "how to fuck" tutorial, might have a good diagram of a what a vagina looks like, but

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What hardware analog synths do you all recommend? Looking and planning on getting an KARP Odyssey Module, though also looking at a Mother-32 and SE-02. Not really looking at the MicroBrute as I am not too crazy about it's sound.
What synths you got? Boast em.
What do you recommend?

>>74180525
>its like looking for a "how to fuck" tutorial
Not gonna lie I tried that. There's surprisingly few material of what could be a gold mine.

>>74180326
one of those guitar pedals that do everything and allow saving programs, you save them in the order of your set so you change by stepping at the change-program button, if you have free hands you put it on a table and modulate the fx accordingly, they have knobs

not the best option in terms of fx quality, but your best chance

if you want modulation without free hands, you can get one of those midi pedals and ableton, or if you have good dexterity on your feet you can get an lpd8, play on a chair without shoes and turn the knobs with your toes

>>74180845
Thank you! I'll explore both the pedal and the Ableton/table route.

Do you think it'd be possible to do a reverse reverb/ghost effect, as well as a vocoder effect, with the pedals, or will I need something more advanced?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vygQZ9hYqyE

this is the shit right now

>>74180908
vocoder yes, reverse reverb i don't think so, i don't even think you can do it live man

Dumb beginner here.

Can you mix and master in one set successfully on ableton, or do you always have to export?

>>74180226
I just wish there was more focus on the smaller stuff. There's established artists who figured out an original sound by pairing stuff together that fits like a glove and what I see is people copying that formula in clyps and getting told how to make it louder which is more mixing than production.

I think in order for someone to get their own sound they need a big vocabulary, so you narrow down to the sound that you really want. Like if you only just start watching porn literally anything will make you bust a nut but if you're an addict and know all the names of the pornstars you'll narrow it down to some weird fetish that's your favorite (dont do this).

There should be a notice in the OP for people to at least learn standard mix techniques before they post stuff, I mean it's very light reading compared to say music theory. On gearslutz they focus on the autistic details and I picked up a lot of things there but there's more potential here for discussing that stuff cuz it's anonymous and there's less ego shit.

>>74180548
I'm torn right now between starting a Eurorack with an intellijel Atlantis or buying a korg arp odyssey module...or buying seperate modules for Euro rack.
Arp odyssey looks really good fun and sounds good, has cv gate in out. Modular stuff is way more flexible and whatever you end up with module wise to start of with you can totally change the sound by adding another module at a cheap price.
Currently looking at building a system with MI Clouds, Atlantis, metropolis

>>74181488
Yeah the 4chan format is good, but the environment (/mu/) is awful. I don't wanna go to forums or other non anonymous communities but it seems to be the wisest thing to do for serious, in depth discussion.

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I started producing six days ago.
https://clyp.it/unv30pyo

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>>74180548
Also the Moog mother seems to be the best value out of what you have listed as it has a built in sequencer and due to the fact as I stated that you could easily add other euro modules to expand it when you have more money, but I think personally I'd go for the odyssey out of those synths you've listed as I think I prefer the sound of the arp.
The Roland tb-03 looks really fun too. You could probably build a 303 clone in Euro modules for a bit more cash if you have it. The stepper acid sequencer looks like it'd be a fun sequencer

>>74181903
Though the main turn off for me for the Mother-32 is that I am afraid it's sound will be rather dull by itself, as it only has one oscillator as opposed to the two or even three in other synths. I feel that Mother-32s do best when you have more than one of them or a pre-existing setup.

Right now I don't quite have the money to get into modular or full eurorack setups.

I plan on maybe just picking up an SQ-1 later to make simple sequences for either my MS20 or the Odyssey.
If I have any extra money, maybe putting that towards some spring reverb units, otherwise the Quad I have will do fine

can't motivate myself to work on my music

PUT A DONK ON IT !!!!11 lol

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>>74175705
love it!

>>74178784
just buttfucking your master with 4000 brickwall compressors/limiters. it's not worth it man, the loudess shit is going away. make your tracks nice and loud but there's no reason to over do it (like the "pros" do)

also, i really like the track, but it's lacking a bit in the low end, try and see what you can do there!

>>74179424
dont let daws be daunting, whatever one works the best and you can get your ideas out with the easiest is the one for you so do experiment. also, 16 voices in serum is quite a bit, what kind of patches are you making?

>>74180131
sadowick on youtube has a lot of nice trance tutorials on youtube about trance and he's been doing a bunch lately. remember, lots of unison detune on saw waves (supersaws) and make sure the phase of the oscillator always resets!

>>74181223
usually can do all in one set.

>>74182009
hey man, there's loads of used synths on the internet, if you're gonna spend any money on a synth you might as well go a *little* expensive but get something really nice, like a juno 106, or the modern, still in production alternative, the deepmind12. polyphonic and analog (for the most part) also dont forget about the korg minilogue, cheapest analog poly on the market that i'm aware of.


anyway, here's my little track. i made this in a day so go easy. what to do about losing motivation? i haven't done much other than screw around with synths in days. i think it's a sign i should hang up the hat.

https://clyp.it/gosemv4c

>>74182046
struggling with a track or just can't start?

>>74180548
>>74181903
>>74182009

I think im gonna go for the minilogue in a couple of months when i finish racking the $$$

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posted an earlier version a couple days ago, got generally good feedback.
here's my first attempt at a mix.

>spooky tech house
https://clyp.it/otvlnqum

>>74182173
aw don't fuckin' die on me now thread

>>74182103
>what to do about losing motivation?
break the law until you regain it

>>74182173
hold on writing up a crit

>>74182173
this sounds good man, really nailed the spooky
i would add more reverb, but im a reverb junky

on the sound side, the kick could have more lows, and the snare more highs and a be a bit less dry
on my own personal taste i would give more release to the bass line that goes in at 0:16, then it blends okay, but i feel it ends too abruptly when its alone
also would add some lushing reverberated noise going around through the ears with automation in reverb size and panning to give more spooky ambience
maybe a background syncopated implicit beat of some kind made out of noise


also, if you want, and this is besides the mix that is really good , but i would accentuate the structure by using risers before the changes, automate volume/reverb, add some detuning pads , and use things such as ever more increasing ghost snare notes till it reaches funky levels while progressively adding delay to the melodies, i think the sum of this things would accentuate the build ups and drive the track a bit further to a richer rythmic game when it explodes

>>74175844
>melodyne
Can't that thing can tune individual strings in guiltar chords?

>>74182103
Nah, sometimes a rest is good. Go outside, smell the flowers, hear the birds and cicadas, look at the shapes in the grass and the clouds. I am being unironically serious when I say try a few days of nofap.
Before about 1:40, the granularity of the choirs hits me wrong as if the bass is too thin to quite carry it. Otherwise I am intrigued..

https://clyp.it/kc1b1wap
can anyone lend me an ear with this, do you think the drum sounds weak? and what do you think about the kick/snare samples?
whole shit gets fuller by the later part, a 909 gets layered with the first one

>>74182492
this is great advice, thanks pal
i've only been producing for a few months so trying to automate and balance all the different tracks is really daunting to me right now, considering the sheer amount of fiddling it takes just to get one thing sounding perfect. but i'll take note of your post and try all that stuff tomorrow.

>>74182173
(this is really picky but it's just my opinion)

I hear potential, but it needs an edge to it. I would change that that juno-ey arpeggiator sound. That synth sound has the most potential but it sounds too separated from the mix and poking out, perhaps a narrow eq cut at 200hz, sounds like you've got two sawtooth oscillators that are at the same fine tune and you could try detuning them very slightly and putting the sound through a small stone type phaser and maybe a subtle delay with slight dry/wet mix. Maybe a tiny bit of portamento on the synth. I just think the lead line has a 'stock' timbre that makes it sound a bit like porno music but some kind of mangling to make it more otherworldly would make a difference. It sounds like there's some sort of stereo effect that's jarring when it reaches the far left and right, might be a bit too fast too.

I might be talking about my arse on this but you could try layering that low squelchy drone pad thing with a harpsichord or clavinet tone, copy the midi of that drone and send it to a sampler playing a harpsichord, might have to pitch the harpsi sample down an octave til it sounds really evil, add subtle distortion, filter it or something.

The bassline at 1:00 sounds like it's haas'd or the phase of one side of the channel is flipped and it sounds knocky in an annoying way, maybe it's a stereo widener. If it's just one synth try taking that haas thing off and duplicating it and pan the first far left and the other far right and change the filter slightly on one.

https://clyp.it/pwnskypx

Is 1:49 too abrupt/weird?
Alternativley: is the whole track shit? It sounds like butts to me now that I've exported it, but that's how it always is.

>>74183064
yeah i didn't notice how shit the mix was until i uploaded it. most of the sounds here are ripped straight out of the Logic library so i know what you mean by it sounding "stock", plus they come with pre-equipped effects and bus routes which i find really annoying. on top of that, it doesn't help me learn how to use synthesizers at all. i'm using them as placeholders for now until i learn more of the ins-and-outs of synthesis and sculpting sound.
thanks for the input though, i'll try and make my own sounds for the track tomorrow.

>have shitty laptop
>open fl project
>pc freezes for 5 minutes cause too many plug ins
Anything I can do about it?

>>74183367
noo man, far from shit, doe it might need more variation/build up

and no, 1:49 is not abrupt or weird, doe it kind of is nothing isn't it? like one expects it to go full level up and it doesnt

i think there's a bit too to much erosion in the.. drums?, and you should change them for a big fat-nig-tier hiphop rythm, if there's a kick im not even hearing it, the only thing im getting is the hats

asides from the drum i love it, if i knew you i would drum it up for you cause i really think that vibe + some good drums, and maybe either shorten it, or add sth else (cause 5min is too much for what it is rn), would make an awesome track

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>>74182663
the drums do sound a bit weak / drowned out, but it meshes well with the atmosphere of the track. very massive attack-ish.
>>74183367
very nice groove, I would make the break at 1:49 even more abrupt / introduce new elements after. some more dynamics (buildup, all out part) would be nice. it gets a bit repetitive, but I see this becoming a lovely track.

https://clyp.it/pkw4q1ft
>literally meme rap
I was making a beat then decided to """lay down some bars""". Recorded on laptop microphone and not even in english, tho.

>>74183367
>Is 1:49 too abrupt/weird?

No it's not, it's fine.

I like the vibe. I think you should have the pitched down sampled breathy sound appear momentarily rather than continuously throughout. Once it starts it doesn't stop and it gets tiring, but if there was a break from it, it would be fine.

The snare sound sounds kind of like soldiers stomping and it almost works but it's a bit too 'farty' with the distortion.

I think it needs more variation to keep it interesting. Why don't you try fleshing out a melody from that squeak at 0:40. I don't think the breathy sound cuts it as the main event of the track.

Made a dark beat idk if it's good or not.
https://clyp.it/mkszczwm

>>74183367
i like it. the abrupt bit isn't weird, i think it just adds some character to the track.
but the whole thing needs some harmonic variation. hearing the same three chords over and over gets boring imo, even if you change up a lot of the other elements.
i'm guessing you're in Cm? correct me if i'm wrong but so far i hear Cm - Gm - Fm - Gm. try a second progression to complement it like Eb - Gm - Cm - Bb or Gm - Bb - Fm - Cm

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anybody know where i could get distortion electric guitar samples and cheesy breakbeat rap vocals?

this is what im doin atm feedbak pls

>>74183577
I like it but the snare is generic trap sounding

https://clyp.it/xfcz1y1d
Please feedback thank

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>>74183657
https://clyp.it/add4ybqb

..forgot clyp lol

oh yeah and since you guys said the art was ok but font sucked, i switched that to some sorta digital clock font everybody seems to have this season, better or nah?

>>74183700
>>74183698
>>74183577
>posting your own track without commenting on any previous ones
kys desu senpai

>>74183721
honestly

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Prematurely evacuated this track unto your ears a a couple nights ago. Its been spiced up and mixed (to the best of my eq ability lol) since. As one anon was talking about, curious do the sounds fit together? Also any general feedback & advice is appreciated. Or roast me like Zo, it tickles the pickle

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>>74183741
as always forgot the clyp lol

https://clyp.it/bquubjgy

>>74183422
Bounce your channels down that have stacks of effect on them and then remove all the effects on that channel.
I have to do this all the time

I am putting together a home studio and currently working on getting the best possible guitar and bass sound. I have the amplifiers, pedals and speakers that I want, and I have two dynamic mics (Shure SM57) one condenser mic (Shure KSM32) and a MIDI interface.

What is the next item that I should get that will be the most useful and effective tool for getting clear, high quality recordings? A preamp for the mics? a soundcard? thank you

>>74183721
I was >>74183658 for your information

>>74183769
soundcard, monitors, mixer

>>74182663
Pretty dope, I dig the reverbed out top layer with grounded drums, might just add something to fill a bit of the space between

>>74183721
>not commenting on other people's tracks in a different post to avoid potential bias

>>74183700
ive seen you make post the two version of that cover and ffs the image looks cool but you keep adding shitty fonts get someone else to do it

>>74183476
I have no idea what your saying but its heat, reminds me of pollari & aarron cartier, with a better mic & smaller booth the vocals would be extra crisp, got a bit distorted and verbed off the laptop mic. The beat is pretty dope as well, maybe ring the sub out a bit more but thats personal preference. Most sc meme rap is pretty low q lazy tier so your already ahead of 1/2 the competiton haha

>>74183821
thanks, im banking on it being my stepping stone out of the crap zone

it has sth filling the space between but im having a lot of troubles mixing it, there's some bass and layers there that i need to compress/eq and add some volume to them

but the shit has 36 channels,and i havent even consolidated the drums cause i think i might still add some more variation, so im kind of frozen as to where to start

>>74183945
Defiantly dig the style, id run with it too.

Also anyone know why is mixing bass the most difficult section?

>>74183721
dont be such a bitch im busy doing the track atm and if i spend all my time on critiques nothing gets done
you can comment but you dont have to. besides funny you should say kill yourself coz its supposed to be chester tribute ep. thanks for nothing asshole

How do you get into programming synth functions and creating hardware? I had an idea for a dual 32 stage digital envelope generator/sequencer, but have no clue how to implement it.

>>74183889
what the fuck is a nonshitty font? you never say what you like but you say you dont like something
think im just gonna stop wasting time on covers text since you clearly have no idea what you want. takes you two second to comment its shitty font kys senpai so im just gonna ingore troll advice

>>74184004
>programming synth
get into max
>creating hardware
ask /g/, most of them won't have a fucking clue but at least 1 anon will give you a hint

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>>74183944
thanks man, I'll probably redo it on a proper mic and add another part. still need to mix and master too. my first time rapping so I have no idea what I'm doing

>>74183700
>>74183889
>>74184010
try this

>>74184010
its a pretty shiddy font tbqhf.
Download inkscape its got the goods

>>74183700
imo don't add the words, just the pic

>>74184037
yeah sure using this one unless anything doper comes up
>>74184045
is inkscape a free download or say 49.99 license after free trial like a lot of stuff
>>74184047
thatd be way easier t´bh

>>74184096
issa free dl

>>74184096
what kind of name is whitefaux anywhay

>>74184158
or black sabbath or katy perry etcetc
as if the name matters people just want music

>>74184204
im just asking why you chose it

>>74184287
idk mainly coz it almost sounds as if youre swearing so theres some edge in the title. probably shouldve just picked something camping related like marshmello, snails, woods etc

>>74183476
Ok dis goes

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>>74180548
I was at the store the other week looking at different synths. Had a play on the Deepmind 12, thought it sounded pretty good. Seems versatile enough. Menu was a bit strange at first but I think one would get used to it pretty quick.

I currently have an MS20 mini and a Kawai K3. The MS20 is a lot of fun playing around with and has lots of balls to it. Not always the most musical though, the K3 is much better at fitting into a song.

This song feels incomplete but im not sure why, any recommendations? im thinking maybe a counter melody

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>>74185724
being a retard

https://clyp.it/tfdag0dk

>>74185642
Ah a K3, I own a K4.
I have to agree with the MS20 though, it sounds rather dirty often times and I usually don't know how to incorporate it for anything other than bass.

I guess I should say what I have:
DX7, MS20 mini, Kawai K4, and an old Casiotone MT-35 I plan on bending a bit.

>>74185733
syncopate the melody more

>>74185758
What does that mean? google didnt really help sorry

>>74185743
How extensive are the editing capabilities on the K4? It sounds pretty good in some youtube demos but the vintagesynth review of it isn't particularly informative about what it can do.

>m8 just ordered his first batch of eurorack gear
>become increasingly tempted to do so myself
send help, I don't want to go broke

>>74185798
I haven't really delved into the editing abilities, sorry :/
Out of my synths it is my least favorite at this point so I kinda just go to my other synths instead

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Post physical modeling vst/hardware synths.

so this is my second track, 122bpm electro-ish
https://clyp.it/ezmils2f

could use some pointers on the mixing/mastering, just doesn't sound right to me even after tweaking a bunch of times.

prod is kill

>>74181801
I quite like it here, pretty sure I've been here since it started.
I don't really post here very much anymore I just kinda like reading through all the posts in the thread out of habit I think.
It's a shame there's not more discussions here about actual music production and techniques or synths, drum machines etc, but I guess I can get all that important stuff over at the cat wobbling website so

>>74185642
Is the K3 simular to the K1? I've been thinking of picking up a K1 module as they seem really cool and are cheap as dirt still.

>>74179442
>Always a PC man
>PC always end up slowing up to a standstill after about 3 years of having them
>friend (macfag) tells me macs don't slow up
>I buy a Mac
>the Mac is already slow as fuck from new
>5 years later it's still as slow as the day I bought it
I will be wasting my money on another Mac soon

>>74185855
>m8 just ordered his first batch of eurorack gear
>become increasingly tempted to do so myself
>send help, I don't want to go broke

I recently started my Eurorack journey. Was limiting myself to one DIY module for under £200 a month. 2 months in I've just filled my first rack. Now I'm thinking of putting a couple of grand on my credit card to buy just a few more modules in the hope it'll put a hold on my module addiction!

Just got myself a trackball and I'm loving it. A little bit awkward at first but as I'm getting used to it I'm starting to prefer it to using a mouse, especially for dragging and dropping stuff.

Tried my hand at some Arca-type detuning and I think it turned out quite well.
https://clyp.it/uiyrukdx

>>74186244
Check out Prism for Reaktor, it's fucking godly. I'm not a big fan of NI's stuff in general but their Reaktor synths are some of the best out there imo.

>>74168936
Did anyone check out deadmau5 music production class?

>>74187344
I feel like there's too much highs and not enough bass, the intros highs felt pretty jarring
feels good up to about the 2 minute mark and then the highs are back again, and it feels like there's dynamically a little too much, but i'm no mix guru or anything i'm just giving you my take
it's a tight track though, i dig it

>>74188313
If you are referring to the Masterclass one:
Do not recommend, if you are absolutely new then maybe check it out but otherwise the information in it is quite basic and rather redundant. You will learn just as much in the OP of this thread and playing with a piano for about a week

>>74187867
The K3 is basically an analog synth with digital oscillators, similar to the DW8000.

The K1 is all digital with no filters but sounds dirty as hell

>>74185798
The K4 is very flexible, basically a standard rompler architecture with resonant filters, ring modulation and effects

>>74188585
apperciate the feedback my dude, got a bunch of mid-high freq layers stacked which might be the problem. Gonnal try stripping some highend

>>74185733
pretty nice, I would improve the beats a little bit, maybe add more stuff

Anyone knows how to not hear the microphone input as sounds records in FL?

I'm not even /prod/, I just want to fuck around with synths
https://clyp.it/nut3gfmd

>>74171044
next time take a metering plugin and slap it before the compression on the master bus
you can use the spectrum(2D frequency) analyzer in your graphic EQ, it most likely has one
then if it's lacking somewhere you may want to try putting an EQ on the master bus, first thing, and compensate for what's lacking
this lacks high frequency material for example
you may also compensate by adding more sounds
but that was a bit of nitpicking, this sounds good in its own right
>>74171929
>Is there anything blatantly wrong
no
it might not sound good but it will depend on your particular setup
>>74173053
use an amp and a cab sim ffs man this hurts
the rhythm guitar is ear-piercing in the some-400Hz region, it distorts a lot in a bad way
also there's a disturbing amount of HF noise
stop using a behringer guitar link if you want to do this shit seriously
>>74174237
>Get a di / reamp box
these are opposite
a DI box lowers the impedance(z) of a signal, because if you plug a hi-z output into a comparatively low-z, where low is anything less than about 10 times the output impedance, you lose high frequency material and your signal gets distorted, that's why audio interfaces have hi-z inputs (100k to 1Mohm) for guitars (hi-z outputs ranging from 5k to 20kohm with passive p/ups)
doing the opposite, plugging a low-z output into a hi-z input will not do anything, you'll just need to turn the volume up compared to the signal level of the (hi-z) output that the input expects
chances are, if you're driving a hi-z input, say a guitar amp front, with a low-z output, say an audio interface out, you already have much more signal than a guitar it's not even funny
reamp boxes are useless - I mean one might argue raising the signal impedance for reamping gives a more natural/genuine tone but I, nor anybody I know, could hear a difference
>>74174617
I like the idea of an added background noise to mask the noise

>>74188175
>Check out Prism for Reaktor
Looks pretty cool, but from the website looks like it's mostly just for playing presets, correct?

>>74191906
you may wanna give the bass drum sound a more natural feel, more attack, more low end, this way it sounds very un-natural
also using the same tone for the guitar solo makes it go together in a slightly undistinguishable way, especially if the volume is pretty much also the same, look up "ducking"
also applying some more reverb to the drums will make them sound more cohesive with the guitar, this way it sounds p strange with that much reverb on the guitar and so little on the drums
>>74175705
suppose it sounds good for what it is
if you had more high forward (so in your case better and more balanced I suppose) speakers/headphones you might feel the high pitched percussion hurts your ears
>>74175771
the bass and bass drum are competing a bit for the low end, decide what's more important there and leave that
or maybe use a compressor on the bass using the bass drum as a sidechain since the bass drum doesn't have much decay
>>74176323
the wood-like sound (third percussion from the start) sounds veeery strange because of the low reverb compared to the piano, the rest just sounds normal to a bit strange
the big, low hit ducks the rest too much imo, see if you wanna do something about it
>>74178055
when I listen to it, it's obvious but it sounds a lot worse because it's by itself and without fx and the fm synth sound sounds very cheap
decide for yourself if you want to plagiarize others or not, it's not like you need my permission
>>74178764
everything sounds very distant from the rest, and the low sound has too much low end, if I had a sub on me I'd have to turn it off
the sounds don't have anything in common harmonically so you gotta do something to make them sound cohesive, compress them together, apply the same effect to both of them (like the same reverb), whatever, this sounds like you found two small loops totally unrelated to each other and you put these together at random

>>74191964
No it's a full synth

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Anyone use one of these? It's a Zoom r24.
I'm looking an interface that wears many hats. I like the face that it has a built in mic for recording ambient audio from a session and can be used as a control surface in a daw. Also, down the road I want to invest in hardware synths, so the fact that I can record without a daw is nice.

Any thoughts?

so why are you /prod/ucing?


nobody's gonna listen to it anyway

>>74192148
>>74178784
first of all have everything played in time ffs these drums, fuck
then adjust your levels, the guitar is important alright we get it but lower the level ffs
the track sounds bad because the guitar is so fucking prominent, and you also need some other stuff to fill the spectrum, have a bass to fill the low end, add some low end to the bass drum, lower the fucking guitar track and high pass it and low pass it, there are other instruments there
is that an organ like-sound in what I believe is the chorus?
is it a guitar solo?
well make that fill the higher part of the spectrum a bit, you spent the time to recorded/program it, now use it ffs
then you may want to apply the same fx to everything to make it sound more "together", like for example a reverb on a bus send (look it up if you don't know what it is), then possibly apply a compressor on the master bus before the limiter, so you don't sound like the latest spinning records hit single, and don't compress and limit shit a lot unless you do want to sound like spinning's latest hit single, like 6dB of gain reduction on the master bus between the comp and the limiter are more than enough
>>74179307
mix with the masters doesn't have much useful stuff for beginners if you ask me
there's audio tuts plus and some SOS articles that are very helpful as well
>>74179424
>40% cpu to run 16 voices of a (single instance I imagine, of a) wavetable synth
are you running a mac G4?
you may wanna try cubase, it's similar to logic
unless you NEED stable drivers and security and so on (so if it's only for fucking around) you may wanna try hackintosh
anyway I don't have an iMac but I have a 2013 (I think) book pro with an i7 4850HQ and 16GB of ram and unless I do very funny stuff, like running 32 instances of an algorithmic reverb(very cpu-demanding) with a tail of 3s each I don't find myself needing more power
maybe also learn how synths work and program the sounds you want on a synth that's not so resources-hungry

>>74192365
Why are you masturbating? No one is gonna be impregnated anyways.

>>74173053
Wow. Kommer försöka sampla det där! Gillar det skarpt!

>>74183755
plz

>>74192287
I looked into one of those before deciding on a Scarlett 18i20. Looks good feature wise although for the price I thought it might be full of cheaper components compared to the already cheap Scarlett

>>74179442
because it has OS X
it's impressive how much you stop worrying about stupid stuff when you actually need to do work with computers
>>74179861
a lot of cores(4 with hyperthreading, so an i7, or 8, so a ryzen or a xeon), a lot of ram
in principle I would advise against a laptop because with a desktop you could get one of those new sweet ryzen processors, they would work nicely
>>74180548
I don't recommend hardware unless you're looking to spend big bucks, but it depends on what you want to do really
apart from a couple exeptions tho - a 303 clone might be sweet if had for the right price
also there's the vermona if you want a drum machine and that's not very expensive
but again, depends on the sound you want, depending on that you might be better off with a pair of those roland tabletop jupiter-8 supposed-sound alikes in tandem even if they're not analog
>>74181870
>producing
that word is used so liberally as of late
this too sounds like you put a lot of loops on top of one another, they're not cohesive in the slightest
read above for some tips on how to solve that
also the guitar/uke chords are too loud compared to the rest imo, look up what dynamic range compressors are, how to use them, when to use them, how to use them and so on
>>74182173
@ about 30s from the start, the stabs that come in sound a bit out of place, and the lower volume stab with a longer decay sounds even more so
by 2min, the drum loop sounds pretty boring
it is spooky tho, yeah that
>>74182663
oh shit this sounds pretty good
I don't like the arrangement much, slow swing-y drums on that background, and maybe the snare might appreciate more attack and a bit less high end and being a bit raised in volume
@ about 1min6s the gong is the only thing that doesn't sound out of place, too much stuff with a snappy attack at once
but yeah that build up at the beginning and the lightness for a bit after that
would follow, do more of this shit

>>74192664
>Cheaper components
Yeah, I figured for the amount of things it does, they had to compromise somewhere. Do you mean in regards to sound quality? That would be my only concern, I can purchase a rack mounted interface and a motorized surface down the road when I have more cash. Plastic doesn't bother me.

what bass are these russians using as their lead?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdC91tk69C4

>>74192742
>>74183367
>is x too y
next time you have a question like that go listening to some tracks that sound like you want to sound and compare them to yours
then decide for yourself, it's your music man, it's your decision if something's good enough for you or not
I would add some air (very high end) to the higher pitched stuff, with a somewhat steep high cut set @ some 20kHz* so it doesn't sound ear-piercing, and that's the only thing I would personally change
*the frequency at which a high/low cut filter is set is commonly defined as the frequency at which there's a 3dB reduction
>>74183476
I'd get higher quality recording appliances, that sounds like it was recorded through a toy microphone through a 20y/o low end computer's sound card
and mix the track with the vocals instead of finding a generic beat and putting your voice on it, the beat sounds like one thing and your voice sounds like it has nothing to do with that
>>74183577
easy on the low end m8, it's too much
the 808 snare is too high pitched and piercing for this also
>>74183698
it sounds so programmed it hurts, add a bit of humanizing to everything if your daw has that function
the keys on a piano aren't pressed exactly at the same moment
a double bass doesn't sound like every note is at the exact same intensity and same length
that's the thing you have to work on before getting to anything else imo
>>74183700
I see you too are fond of aggressive 2bus comps on the drum bus
if you haven't, check out the glue by cytomic, it will work very good for that
anyway, ease up on that compressor a bit, the drums should be more snappy than this, raise the threshold and the attack time
or, if that was a loop you found, stop using loops and find drum samples to which to apply compression the way you see fit
that compressor gives the drums character but it makes them very dull, and that ruins the track
the stuff after about 1min is ducked by whatever sound is there at the moment, pay attention to that

>>74193029
then when you layer two drum sounds the volume of the drums gets too high and they overshadow the rest
>>74183755
beginning sounds like mamma mia
the wobbly bass is too high in level, so much that it sounds out of place
stop adding and then removing stuff without developing pretty much anything
the low end that's there is there because of the wobbly bass, and when that is not there there's no low end
>>74185733
the exaggerated and ever-present very low end is unpleasant
even without that, it sounds very repetitive
>>74186244
well there's Sculpture...
>>74187344
the bass drum has very little low end, your very(too much) distorted lead synth occupies too much of the frequency spectrum, you too read about what ducking is
use less distorted synth leads, try a synth with more voices and use 4, 8 voices, each one a tiny bit detuned, so it sounds fuller and fatter without occupying too much space
>>74191654
nice bass at the beginning and nice clavia a bit after that
>>74192287
>an interface that wears many hats
do you even know what an audio interface is supposed to do?
>it has a built in mic
if you have a modern phone, its mic will sound better
control surface for volume and pan, and it occupies quite some space
>can record without a daw is nice
has nothing to do with the fact that you want to invest in hardware synths and it has no advantage apart from the portability, but hardware synths aren't going to be much portable either
>>74192891
>bass
you mean the stabs?
find some samples of a marimba and twist them to taste, or buy a DX7, which is probably what what they used was copied from
if you mean the other annoying sound, whatever veeery distorted sound, or if you prefer, some subtractive synth producing a square wave, will do
rest is a bass drum

one of my tracks, so you know that you're not being criticized by a random amateur
do berate me for soundcloud if you will
https://soundcloud.com/lborgo/and-you-dont-seem-to?in=lborgo/sets/vga-2016-pre-show-mix

>>74192795
Well I was well impressed with the 18i20 build and sound quality considering the price (compared to other interfaces of the same spec) and I'd imagine the zoom would be sacrificing some of that build and audio quality to add the other features it has. I went for the 18i20 as it was going to be the heart of my audio set up so I wanted something of the best (I could afford) quality.
Saying that I also bought a zoom h2n and was expecting that to be pretty shitty sounding and again I was overly impressed the build quality is total shit though.
I'd say go look at the zoom if you have that option? The reviews I read were all really positive desu especially the sound on sound review so maybe give it a shot if you are after all the features it has?

>>74192891
Probably the default DAW FM synth. "Thickbasss" from the legowelt DX sample pack sounds similar if you don't want to fuck around with FM.
https://awolfe.home.xs4all.nl/samples.html

>>74193424
For all the in depth advice, that's a pretty disappointing track. Don't mean to berate or anything, but I was expecting something mind blowing after all that dedication.

It's great that you took your time to reply seriously to everything, tho. Keep it up.

>>74193424
>do you even know what an audio interface is supposed to do?
Yes, convert xlr and trs analog signals into digital so they can be manipulated in a daw. That's not really the point, I like gear that can do a lot of things since I engineer on the side as well. I like the idea of taking this to a bands rehearsal session and recording everything I need without a laptop then taking it home for further mixing sounds super versatile to me. And as far as hardware goes, I'll probably start with the cheap stuff first like Volcas and Boutiques before I really drop serious money.

>>74193505
Definitely gonna check out that review. I'm liking all the features so I'm pretty set on it already, I just need that final push. Thanks anon.

>>74193646
would you mind elaborating?
now I'm curious
>>74193791
>convert xlr and trs analog signals into digital so they can be manipulated in a daw
yes that's pretty much it
if you know that, how do you figure an audio interface can wear many hats?
>I like the idea of taking this to a bands rehearsal session
where you'll need mics and a number of other things
considering the bulk (and most likely not great) audio quality of the zoom I'd say a more "compact" interface and a laptop are going to be less of a burden

how do i get out of my writers block with producing music?

>>74193968
It's not bad, it's well done, it's just unimpressive. Riffs aren't noteworthy and there aren't any complex effects or cool sounds. Just a clean track.

I'm new to /prod/ but i came to ask if anyone could reccomend the best DAW for making ambient music?

>>74193791
>Definitely gonna check out that review. I'm liking all the features so I'm pretty set on it already, I just need that final push. Thanks anon.
No problem. Another thing worth looking into might be something like the zoom h5, I think it also works as an audio interface, has decent external mics and audio inputs. It might be better quality and would probably leave enough money for a control surface.

>>74193996
read about a lot of interesting shit you can do
for example read about the different types of compressors and how they sound
or, that's useful, read how to program reverbs realistically, what the parameters like pre-delay and early reflections level mean
plus music production isn't that much of a creative thing
unless you also mean beatmaking or however you wanna call that, in that case learn to program subtractive synths and then additive synths and then try out some funny sounds
>>74194104
ah, I see
well thanks, the opinion is appreciated

>>74194147
>best DAW
hah
seriously, try the demo of every DAW you can and then decide what you prefer
there's no thing as best DAW, only a thing as worst DAW, and that's pro tools unless you're running a studio with AVID/DigiDesign hardware or you're used to analog consoles

Just something I made by fucking around. I don't know if I'm gonna do anything with it

https://clyp.it/sdtxwyz4

Traditional / classical guy here, trying to slowly get into electronica / edm and still sortinjg out different genres

What genre would https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rcctp8MM3g belong to? Specifically the "high energy" faster paced trance-like elements


Weird thing to ask, I know, but bear with me

>>74193968
I've done some reading on gearslutz and soundonsound, from what I can tell there's no major compromises on audio quality besides the preamp, not really a problem since I have a hand me down rack with both mic and guitar preamps on that have been collecting dust. The built in one should be serviceable for recording away from home, especially if it's just for a refrence track. Anyways, I don't expect to have to bring anymore than two or three condensors with me if I were recording a small band, my goal was
>Take 1
>Electric/Bass 》Band's effects (unless recording dry) 》Amps 》R24
>Acoustic 》Condensor + Stereo mics on R24 》R24
>Vocalist 》Condensor 》R24
>Presequenced drum track using R24 sampler

>Take 2
>Drummer 》R4 Stereo mics in front of drummer + Condensor on kick + Condenser on snare 》R24
>Remove drum sequence before recording

Would this not be ideal?

>>74194149
I'm actually liking the h5's form factor a lot, looks like it might be handy for recording audio for when I want to shoot video. Shit, I can run multiple audio sources for a friend with a mixer while he shoots, probably even line up the score in real time. Definitely intrested, but maybe not as a interface persay.

Anyways, on the topic, what are some good motorized surfaces that are dirt cheap?

https://clyp.it/nsxxi1u4
Posted this the other day. Since then I polished it a bit and made it longer.

>>74194664
>Anyways, on the topic, what are some good motorized surfaces that are dirt cheap?
I doubt there's anything as a dedicated motorised control surface for the price of the zoom desu.

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Haven't posted in a while

https://clyp.it/snugngyq

Opinions?

>>74194336

we kinda make similar music lol anyway i like this a lot. feels a little hollow tho. i'd do some eq'ing to chord progression so it makes it sound fuller. maybe add a multi-presser to it also to thicken it up.

needs a baseline too but you prolly know that

>>74194664
Also when buying my portable recorder I found a website that had audio recordings of every portable recorder along with mic inputs and external mics. The r24 might well be on there.

>>74195119
Link pls

Off topic. How do I get a following on sound cloud, I just started uploading a lot recently to no avail.

>>74195163
I can't remember now I've had my recorder a few years so it was a while ago when I was looking into it. It shouldn't be too hard to find though with a few searches

>>74195305
spend more time on one track, if this doesnt apply to you then im sorry

PROTIP: The secret to polyrhythms is having a 5 and 7 repeat

https://clyp.it/w2tcjpxb

I have been working pretty hard at learning producing on FL Studio for the past two weeks. So i'm aware this is mostly a garbage mix but I would like opinions on what ideas I can branch out and learn.

>>74195835
what is that in terms of fractions?

5th attempt at making something longer than 6 bar.

theres no mixing and it's probably meh but i guess i'm slowly understanding more and more about syncopation.

i'm not looking for extensive feedback or criticism but id' appreciate if someone could tell me how far i am from an actual musical loop

https://clyp.it/jkzntpk2

>>74195998
5/4 and 7/4
5/8 and 7/8
5/16 and 7/16
...

>>74196045
you know a loop can be any length right?


regardless your's would sound okay if you didn't lose the rythme half way through and fuck up a couple notes ...

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>>74168936
Where can I get shelves that are angled on Amazon? I'm having a hard time finding one. Suggestions? I have 3 synthesizers and plan on getting more. So one with 5-6 shelves is preferred.

>>74195305
Marketing.

>>74196615
e l a b o r a t e

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>>74196615
>all that meme gear

>>74194147
ableton

>>74197237
>doesnt know about knob per function

>>74197419
It's more like having 5 DSI synths even though they all sound the same.

https://clyp.it/gemqucoz

i like this what do you think?

also what genre is it closest to i'm not sure?

https://clyp.it/c12ndowl
just a sketch

>>74197683
its cool

>>74197864
thanks

>>74197683
nice work dude

i have $500 to spend on a solid midi controller or a nice analog synth. i like making sampled hip hop beats and was thinking about obviously getting the maschine mk2, seems like this eras MPC.

what do you think?

>>74197419
It's not like it's magic. It's not like it makes your music better. It's simply a workflow preference. I'm sorry you can't handle complexity.

>>74198544
Obvs you're the only person who knows what you need- most people would lead towards synth because of the analog hype

Idg the lack of reasonably priced drum pads/controllers that aren't shit in the market right now- I'm looking at a kontrol and mashine setup too just because that's all there is in that range...

>>74183425
>>74183476
>>74183495
>>74183618
>>74193029

Thanks for the feedback, I changed some stuff: more buildup, tried to "level up" 1:49, cut out the middle part where nothing much happened, fixed the percussion

https://clyp.it/0cct4sew

>>74197100
It's pretty obvious, read my post again. I'm asking for shelves sold on Amazon that would be suitable for a lot of synthesizers.

>>74199632
what an asshole

>>74200067
go make your trap memebeats you broke jewfaggot stop projecting over your jealousy just because other people can afford hardware

>>74200265
>going full edgelord so you end up looking just as dumb as the other guy

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I made with (cheap) analog synths- and lots of processing. Let me know how the levels are, and whether that filter whoosh effect sounds ok. So far, its just a loop, but I will most likely expand it into a full track.

https://clyp.it/qqswihz0

Also, not sure what genre even, desu??

>>74200265
>>74200544
That wasn't me.

>>74199632
>>74196615
This is me.

>>74191906
was that meant for me?

>>74171044

>>74199429
sounds good mane! I'm a big fan of the melancholy-ish, kind of nostalgic synth vibes.

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>>74200619
so dreamy, i dont have a good enough ear to give good advice on the to talk volume levels, but i really dig the song. it gives me an arcade vibe.

mein shit: https://clyp.it/oznzdf2j
just looking for general criticism on anything about it.

>>74200928
hey thanks! I really like your track too, actually. Also dreamy vibes, I think we are using the same chord progression lol.

Those synth chords give it a lot of character, and that B part in the middle breaks things up nicely. You may consider adding some more drum layers for interest, but everything sounds pleasant and comfy so far.

>>74198544
Save and get the studio if you can, those big screens are really handy for sequencing, plus you can turn off you computer monitor and use the Maschine like a real hardware sampler

something ive been working on
https://clyp.it/ueb3bkif

>>74202429
yeah you need to work on your recording/tone..... a lot

>>74202705
it was recorded through a shitty laptop mike, also im pretty drunk, but yeah any advice with that?

>>74202756
yeah, drink better alcohol, cheap alcohol is ear poison

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heres a little something for you bustas

https://clyp.it/uh2ruyw2

>>74194521
The drums are DnB, the high energy is eurobeat, and anime is bad

>>74204001
>The drums are DnB
Thanks

>high energy is eurobeat,
Thanks

>and anime is bad
The dance is cute though

>>74194538
>from what I can tell there's no major compromises on audio quality besides the preamp, not really a problem since I have a hand me down rack with both mic and guitar preamps
didn't you want portability?
also you can't bypass the pre's, the h24 has no line in's, if they suck, which they might (relatively) it might be a problem for your sound
>The built in one should be serviceable for recording away from home
again, one mic from a modern phone will almost certainly be better unless you absolutely need a stereo pair
>take 1
how do you figure you'll plug guitar amps into an audio interface?
that doesn't change with any other audio interface tho
>take 2
look up the recorderman technique if you want to record drums with a couple mics, that setup you described leaves little space for worthwhile editing and processing, and it will outright sound bad if the room you're in sounds bad - omni mics capture a lot of the room's sound, and if you want to get these fare enough that you can record the sounds of each piece of the drums and having them sound balanced, you'll also record a lot of the room
also it's nice to record a scratch track for the drummer to play on, but after that you gotta record the rest again, over the drummer this time, else it's more than likely that something will not be on time - the drummer should sound like it's being followed in general, not the opposite
>Would this not be ideal?
sounds like you decided, for whatever reason, that the h24 is the right piece of gear for you and now you're rationalizing
I too tho wouldn't believe a stranger on the internet if he told me it's a stupid idea to buy what I want, so buy an h24 and be happy because it's what you wanted
>>74200820
yes

>>74197591
bump - someone wanna listen to this for me?

>>74197591
>https://clyp.it/gemqucoz
welp i guess i can't help you on that one.

Yo

tried something more simple and closer to my skill level, could i get some simple feedback?

not enough interest or drive?

i have no idea how to actually create a good build up so this is just the main loop and it's 6 bar long

>>74205412
https://clyp.it/xj2hgber

fuck

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any Huerco S fans here? any tips about how he makes his tunes?

>>74204934
>you can't bypass the pre's
Wouldn't turning the gain all the way down on the built in pre's allow me to get a larger noise floor when combined with an external preamp? I'm not too concerned about having to deal with a rack since that means I won't have to comprise on my own recordings.

>how do you figure you'll plug guitar amps into an audio interface?
Scratch that, I don't want my stuff to explode. I guess I'm going to have to invest in a DI box, but on the plus side it seems I can get one with a dedicated preamp away so I can maintain portability

>look up the recorderman technique
Very helpful for someone on a budget, I was going to go about this the absolute worst way possible. The only thing that bothers me is it never specified if he's using condensers or dynamic mics, I'm guessing the latter which means that's something else for me to buy...

Thanks for the hard advice by the way. I'm an electronic/hip-hop daw user who happened to have a some fancy analog equipment fall in my lap, so now I have engineering ambitions. I originally gravitated towards the r24 out of a need for a dedicated interface, and I figured it had pretty good bang for its buck. I'm kinda out of my element here so I have to respect when someone gives me good advice, my hearts not particularly set on it, but I also can't find anything out there that matches it in value.
What would you suggest instead?

>>74194938
This is real good will reply when at PC and monitors

>>74197683
Really good keep working on it.
Maybe from headphones the strings/ pads sound a bit dry and midi in relation to otherwise lively + great scuzzy guitar and drums?
Might want your opinion on guitar tone

>>74178574
>make music
>post and get feedback
seriously it's not that hard. different people have different creative processes so the idea of having a general thread is good.

>>74185642
havent played one but thedeepmind 12 looks amazing. id love to give it a go myself. Seems very versatile.


>>74185743
ms20 is actually really good for drums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFr8RgAxMeA
any tips?

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I want to learn music theory. Where should I start?
I tried reading the books at the beginning of the thread but my mind goes blank trying to comprehend it.

How do you feel about this low effort material https://clyp.it/alqhvybv

>>74206227
http://www.musictheory.net/lessons
you should be able to do all of this at a minimum

>>74185743
this guy is right >>74205773 the esp can absolutely destroy drum tracks
https://clyp.it/1upv3jdp

>>74205773
Indeed it is, mostly to be sampled though, it's pretty difficult to make a rather cool and passing sounding full drum set on the keyboard with on one MS20 though the kicks are full and heavy, snares are there, and hihats are analog-y as fuck. But it's hard to get all of that into one single patch.
Or atleast I haven't found it

>>74206652
And I agree with that too