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I just got cancer from this this is the worst decade in

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I just got cancer from this

this is the worst decade in popular music by far
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Says you
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>>74117197
well yeah most decades won't look good if you look at what RYM votes to the top of them
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>>74117216
80s and 70s look good, 90s and 00s look ok

10s look like pure AIDS
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>>74117241
good thing there are more than 6 albums released the past 7 years
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>>74117197
All those albums are pretty good, worst is TPAB which is still a 7/10
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>>74117279
You have the taste of an animal
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>>74117197
The chart is ok if you remove rap
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>>74117298
How do you exclude a genre?
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>>74117290
That's a little harsh
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>>74117298
Then there's not a single album with a 5-star rating average
Rap is trash but if there is not a single album charting higher than there must be something wrong
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>>74117388
>5-star rating average
What? Nothing with enough votes to make it on the charts would ever average a 5.
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I think it's because no matter what peoples taste is, most people like to pretend they like rap because pretending to like nigger shit makes you seem like an intelligent tolerant person

So that's why these albums are rated high and have the most ratings
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>>74117455
>>>/pol/
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>>74117455
this is a stretch, hip hop has a pretty wide popular appeal anyway
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>>74117492
You know it's true
whether a guy likes industrial music, or prefers post rock, or maybe indie rock, they will all listen to nigger west and nigger lamar
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>>74117241
The 90s do not look fucking okay
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>>74117512
>nigger west and nigger lamar
made me laugh desu
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>remove hip hop
>it's still shit
Damn, I was so close to believing you too.
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>>74117524
well, true i just hoped to let it slide
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>>74117532
i fucking hate their names so much, "kendrick" what the fuck kinda name is that? And "laamar"??? what the fuck is this shit give me 50 cent or lil nigga every day of the week over this
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are you guys being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian or do you just wanna shit on rym?
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>>74117550
how do you remove a genre?

nu males really took over music
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Okay /mu/, tell me why rap is "bad". "It takes no skill" is not a valid answer. "It promotes degeneracy" is not a valid answer. "It's nigger music" is not a valid answer. "The Jews are using it to brainwash people" is not a valid answer. "Millennials only pretend to like it because they're SJW cucks who want to pretend to be tolerant" is not a valid answer.
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>>74117563
young nigga*
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>>74117497
Hip hop is a forced meme.
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>>74117524
>OKC
>Loveless
>ITAOTS
>36 Chambers
>Illmatic
>Agaetis Byrjun
>Spiderland
>F#A#
90s is pretty entry level, but it's still a far bit better than the 10s offering.
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>>74117572
this mindset is cancer
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wow it's almost as if ? people rating albums at the very moment they were released can't have perspective ? and will have to be biased towards what the popular media hyped ? fucking crazy discovery op
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>>74117585
because I don't like it
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>>74117609
could you be more specific
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>>74117602
im just salty AiC isn't in the top 40, and Jar of Flies isn't the #1 EP

at least kyuss made it in there
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>>74117585
tell me why x is bad
don't use any of the reasons x is bad

btw, it's not about skill but the result, the result sounds like shit. the instrumental part of it is a primtiive beat that repeats for most of the song, and the vocal part of it is literal niggers speaking about nonsense in ebonics

there's no excuse to like this or consider it even 10% of the quality of actual musical releases
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>>74117585
I like Kanye and sometimes Kendrick. Hip hop is just very local, about black people's struggles, I just don't care to listen to it. And not enough emphasis on music but lyrics - and 95% of them are horrible lyricists
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>>74117623
>everyone disagreeing with me is doing it to be contrarian
do you need it spelled out
>>74117630
prove that it takes no skill
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>>74117586
yung nigga*
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>>74117630
also, I like how whenver a nigger says anything in rap that isn't just "fuck bitches ooga booga drugs money" but maybe the nigger says "global warming is bad" or "systemic racism and misogyny" then suddenly the nigger is a fucking philosopher king
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>>74117656
I didn't say it takes no skill you subhuman retard
that was literally part of the point, that it doesn't matter what "skill" it takes when the result is what it is
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>>74117593
true. hip hop culture is forced in general nowadays. music was better off when hip hop was viewed as violent hood shit.
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>>74117197
>tpab better than mbdtf
cancer indeed
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>>74117197
>rate your music
This means nothing to me
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>>74117679
>don't use any of the reasons x is bad
>"It takes no skill" is not a reason.
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>>74117707
"skill" doesn't mean anything, you can remove that reason
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>>74117656
>everyone disagreeing with me is doing it to be contrarian
yeah, because posting a chart and just saying it's cancer with a bunch of people going "HURR DURR NIGGER MUSIC" is not cancer at all
people itt are being contrarian, there's no denying that. posting a chart of popular albums and just shitting on it with very basic insults is not a healthy way to discuss music. there's pretty much zero actual music discussion in this thread
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>>74117630
>local /pol/tard physically incapable of writing a sentence without mentioning niggers
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>>74117733
I'm talking about hip hop, of course i'm gonna mention niggers

you're so fucking dumb
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>>74117298
This

>>74117388
Too many asshats listening only plunderphonics and rap.
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>>74117576
hip hop isn't music. it should be rated on rap sites not on music sites
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>>74117730
the OP literally states that a popular chart of well liked music from 4 other decades is better than this one
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>>74117730
>they're not discussing it how I want them to so they're just disagreeing for the sake of it
mhm
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EVERYONE STOP POSTING !

What would be YOUR top 3, op ?
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>>74117630
If you think any of the reasons I called invalid are actual reasons why rap is bad, I need you to do one of three things
1. Get off of /pol/ or 4chan for 5 fucking minutes, maybe go for a walk or something idk.
2. Go back to /pol/ where while you won't improve as a person you'll at least be contained and nobody else will have to deal with your total idiocy.
3. Fucking neck yourself.
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>>74117772
so it's ok to be contrarian if you don't hate every single piece of well liked music? is that what you're saying?
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>>74117787
You have the taste of an animal
I sincerely hope your entire family suffers great misfortune including but not limited to death, sickness, grief, and suicidal depression
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>>74117794
you're being a contrarian by acting like an actual retard
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>>74117782
hi im op

1. Radiohead
A Moon Shaped Pool

2.Arcade Fire
The Suburbs

3. Sufjan Stevens
Carrie & Lowell
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>>74117814
k
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>>74117825
this is the taste of the people that make fun of you for listening to rap
you can't make this shit up
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>>74117825
all of those are already in the top 15 and none of them are better than blackstar
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>>74117828
your entire argument is one word, 'contrarian'
it's not an argument
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>>74117839
>>74117856
It wasn't the actual op, retards
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>>74117825
C U C K C O R E
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>>74117857
>your entire argument is one word, 'contrarian'
it's not
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>>74117782
pick any genre that isn't rap, hip hop, indie rock, pop, blackhaze, singer/songwriter

i'm almost certain it will be ok with me
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>>74117864
it was offered as an alternative to the albums in OP, it deserves to be laughed at no matter who posted it
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>>74117807
Your reasons for hating rap have literally nothing to do with the music itself and everything to do with /pol/ virtue signalling. The fact that you can't find anything wrong with rap other than niggers is proof of that.
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If somebody critiques hip hop but listens to metal their opinion is instantly deemed worthless.
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>>74117856
but you know this blackstar is overrated because of Bowie's death only?
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>>74117197
>likes a bunch of formerly underground/independent music from the past
>doesn't listen to anything from contemporary and truly independent artists who have like 50 fans on the internet
>claims to even have an opinion of 2010s era music, something which he actually has almost no connection with
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none of these deserves for top10
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>>74117906
I did talk about the actual music you literal animal
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>>74117910
Anyone who criticizes metal is a nu male
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>>74117929
I distinctly said "POPULAR" music
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>>74117979
metal is one of the most nu-males genres there is
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>>74117197
It is pretty laughable but there you go. Decline of civilization and all that.
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>>74117986
Nu males hate anything masculine
A lot of metal is masculine

The nu male approved metal like blackgaze and atmospheric bm are very un masculine, that's why nu males like them
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>>74117986
let me guess, hip hop is for alpha males because kendrick has a big dick?
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Is there any reason to hate on those albums other than "I don't like them"
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>>74117986
This. I've never meet a metal fan that wasn't a fat runt with bad acne and patchy facial hair.
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Fuck Off Get Free should be in there
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>>74117197
>caring about RYM charts
>there's 2 more years to this decade (it's basically like ignoring late 60's psych, late 70's post-punk or late 80's indie rock)
>caring about RYM charts
>caring about RYM charts

Maybe it's true 'popular' music on the internet can't compare to popular music from other decades, but yet again, RYM =/= the real world

imo this is the best decade in uinderground music
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>>74117986
nu-male is a dead meme anyways. it's all about bugmen now, friendo
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>>74118011
Stop hanging out with nu males, nu male.
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>>74118015
I'm just criticizing popular culture more than what good music is like today
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>>74118004
metal is for fedora-lords and nu-males in denial
>74118005
nice strawman. I said "one of the most". obviously hip hop is up there as well.
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>>74117197
>top three artists are black

that's it lads, western civilisation is over
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>>74118020
>don't hang out with nu-males
I never hung out with metalheads so I kept myself nu-male free.
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>>74118031
t. nu male
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>>74117971
>the instrumental part of it is a primtiive beat that repeats for most of the song, and the vocal part of it is literal niggers speaking about nonsense in ebonics
in other words, "niggers", amirite?
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>>74118040
t. nu male
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>>74118052
I explained in detail why it's shit
It's not my fault that hip hop is a nigger genre that is infested with ebonics and terrible musicianship
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>>74118051
oh, looks like I triggered a metalhead over here
but please, tell me how metal is the least nu-male genre there is and how you're totally not a nu-male because you listened to Bathory once
>inb4 t. nu male
simply ebin, my friend
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The argument in this topic is like both participants are the strawman the other person would create

Hip-hop is the only genre really where new things are happening right now and big statements are being made, every other genre's 'bests' right now are either quirky asides or simply up to standard. There were some interesting things happening in metal for awhile (the 00s) but I think the heyday is over. Electronic music is always ahead of the curve but you don't have to tell anyone about it, we all know, but it's also niche appeal unless it's EDM, and dance music doesn't lend itself to album formats that well.

hip-hop is having a "classic rock" moment right now. one day these albums are all going to be cliches
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>>74118087
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pitchfork has better top 3 in this decade desu because there are 2 hip hop albums (mbdtf, goodkid) and Deer Hunter - Halcyon instead of 3 hiphops
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>>74118097
Every white person that listens to nigger-hop should be deeply embarrassed, and castrated
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>>74118099
Bitch
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>CTRL + F nu male
>17 matches
impressive, but you can do better, cmon
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>>74118070
Why is repetition bad?
Why is using a "primitive beat" bad?
Why is the fact that black people make it bad?
Why are ebonics bad?
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>>74118132
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>popular music
Fag.
Also Bowie being on the list is a pleasant surprise.
But realistically it takes time to delve out the actual hits. I mean reminder Smells like Teen Spirit charted behind BoysIIMen. Yet ask kids today which they've hesrd of....
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>>74118119
also Grimes is top 15
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>>74118121
Go fuck yourself. you'll get bored of /mu/ in a day max, so i don't even have to tell you to go away
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>>74118142
Repetition can work, but when the thing that's repeating is a 4 second loop of a basic beat, there's no quality to be found

hip hop is extremely regressive in any musical sense, and is reinforced by the fact it's literal niggers speaking in ebonics over it
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>>74118150
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>>74118142
>I am an intellectual and just learned what relativism is
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>>74118121
this. music has some political issues in this decade
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>>74117197
Not horrible. I MUCH prefer GKMC to TPAB, I don't think TPAB should be anywhere near the top 6. I also don't think Carrie and Lowell has any business being there either. MBDTF, Blackstar, GKMC, and The Seer all deserve to be in the top 10, albeit I would change the order a bit
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>>74118174
So you're argument is that it's bad because it uses a looping beat and because black people made it and you think anything made by black people is inherently regressive?
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To be honest I'd be 100% okay with hip hop lyrics if they were ironic. But these people are just legitimately retarded.
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>>74118210
*your
before someone uses my typo to ignore the rest of what I said
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>>74118173
triggered niggerlover
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>>74118210
There have been black people involved in good music

hip hop is not it
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Bait OP aside, what have the three most influential albums of the decade been thus far?
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>>74118234
go away meanie!!!!
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>>74118289
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>>74118277
>>74117825
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>>74118312
What an embarrassingly bad opinion.
All those albums are trash.
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>>74118311
how was he elected?????????????????????
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>>74118388
systemic racism ____----_____---
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>>74117197
>no hoom
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>>74118200
For reference, here is my list

>Have One on Me
>The Seer
>Paralytic Stalks
>The Idler Wheel
>Good Kid, Maad City
>Blackstar
>MBDTF
>Ecailles de Lune
>Black Up
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>>74118526
>HOOM
>Écailles de lune
>GKMC
>Black Up
Good shit
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stupid nigger music
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>>74117985
damn, my bad
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>>74117585

The lyrics are always really bad. The language is always high school level or less. The subject matter is always the same; it's either a braggadocio rap or about growing up in the streets. Few rappers ever try to venture out and they deserve due respect for it,but what they do is hardly comparable to what other genre musicians have been writting and talking about for decades before. The instrumentals in rap music are without contest the most primitive and mediocre of any genre including bubblegum pop music. Rap is easily replicable. Anyone schumck can be a rapper and if you look at the average caliber of mind in the rap game you'd concur.
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what about such top 3 ?

1. David Bowie
2. Kanye West My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
3. Deerhunter Halcyon Digest

is it fair now? there is numale album, rap album and bowie
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>>74118621
>The language is always high school level or less.
pic related
>Anyone schumck can be a rapper and if you look at the average caliber of mind in the rap game you'd concur.
I guess
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>>74117764
(you)
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>>74118728
wtf I love rap now
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>>74118728
Aesop is a god among niggers
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>>74118621
>>74118728
do you know that people who vote on RYM and other sites are from countries where english is not first language and many of them rate only melodies/beats/compositions/vibes?
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>>74118806
So that means that hip-hop is not just niggers talking and there is actual musicality to be appreciated? Who would have thunk it :o
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>>74118839
nigger culture is a plague
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what is more cuckmode, listening to Andrew Jackson' Jihad, or listening to Wingnut DIshwashers Union?
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>>74118839
it affects all genres
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>>74118678
genre parity - music equality
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>>74118884
i actually am not sure what i hate more. rap music or folk punk. i am starting to lean towards the latter. everything about those bands makes me want to induce vomiting. and thats saying a lot since i have an extremely low tolerance for niggers.
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>>74117667
these are the statements of somebody who is artistically illiterate.

enjoy your (You), now please go back to >>>/pol/ or >>>/b/ or whatever red board cesspool you belong in.
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>>74118994
kill all niggers and cucks
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>>74117550
let england shake is amazing fuck you!!!!!!
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>>74119016
Anyone who likes nigger-hop has brain damage and is deaf tone
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>>74118728
So hip hop haters just got btfo, right?
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>>74119034
>>>/b/ it is then.
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>>74119045
Great points, nigger lover

I've last went on /b/ in 2007
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>>74119016
how in the world saying bad thing is bad would make you artistically litarate then
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>>74119070
*2017

You already exposed yourself, move along son. By the way, it's "tone deaf", not "deaf tone".
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>>74119091
Amazing grammar correction captain reddit, now will you go back?
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>>74119106
I probably should, i feel like i've outgrown this place, but threads like this make it all worthwhile. And the collage threads. And sharethreads.
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>>74119106
>grammar argumentum ad personam
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>>74119122
oh and how do they make it worth. Dont ya feel like you're pissing somebody off here? xD get some self-esteem idiot
Post something that makes sense please, prove that nigger hiphop havent actually unmendably damaged your fucking brain
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>>74119122
You're still acting like a pretentious 16 year old
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>>74119159
If you expect me to un-pleb somebody this far gone, you have very unrealistic expectations of me.

>>74119162
26 actually. Good guess though.
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>anonymous is the one person

aslo rap isn't art. that's true
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>>74119181
I said what you're acting like, not your actual age, you literal dog.
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>>74119181
how pathetic! a 26 (prolly 16 actually) yo idiot sitting at 4chan midday, tryna piss off some schoolboys as the thinks
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>>74119211
it's 10:30 PM eastern time, bruh.
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>>74117764
You're incredible close-minded. Congratulations you delusional faggot
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>>74119259
The only exception I make is hip hop and rap, out of thousands of other genres

nice try, faggot
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>>74119232
4:40 am but neet here
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>>74119232
well thats still hilarious, some 16 yo ontario dude's saying he's 26 and goes all those "oh oh ive overgrown this freaking place y'all are disgusting and poorminded here!"
ur just a pig
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>>74119275
so your okay with jazz, afrobeat and various other "nigger music" genres then? interesting.

i wonder how you feel about rock n roll being a black invention as well.
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>>74119307
>jazz
>nigger music
>muh bb king muh muh
Go and listen to some jazz first bro
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>>74119327
how about afrobeat?

you've never even heard fela kuti, am i right to assume that?
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>>74119307
Those genres are music
Hip hop is hardly music, and is full of nigger ebonics

Also, it's highly flawed to say niggers invented rock.

Btw, any instruments niggers "invented" music on are instruments no niggers in africa ever made or had access to, until they were brought to the west. The only musical thing that africa brought to the west is polyrhythms.
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>>74119361
ive never ever heard no afrobeat shit. But what i have heard and been listening to for quite a while is definetely Jazz, and what i can tell you is that all the goods of jazz were made by whites
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>>74119398
>and what i can tell you is that all the goods of jazz were made by whites

like i said, artistically illiterate.
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>>74117869
holy fucking kekles this is my new favorite way to describe music taste
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>>74119408
HOW IN THE WORLD MY STATEMENT MAKES ME ARTISTICALLY ILLITERATE?
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>>74117324
Very simple.
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>>74119417
>ive never ever heard no afrobeat shit.

you just kept digging your hole deeper and deeper bruh.
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>>74117585
Those are pretty valid fucking reasons moron. It sounds like absolute bullshit and one in a million songs actually have some substance
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>>74119451
You strike me as the sort of person who actually cares more about the lyrics than the flow and production. Which is hilariously appropriate.
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>>74119440
well. Im totally sure youve never ever listened to a shitgenre like celtic punk for ex. And knowing this fact wouldnt make me assume you were ARTISTICALLY ILLITIRATE.
However you post makes me assume youre simply illitirate. Go and learn into some philosophy
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>>74119473
>spews mindless racist bantz unironically
>Go and learn into some philosophy
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>>74119503
>nigger music is shit
>racist
u wot boy
tryina act like ur bashin them fashs?
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>>74118770
>boring white nu-male who's only perk is reading a fucking vocabulary in every fucking track
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>>74118019
please keep this meme contained you know where. I don't want people overusing it.
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>>74119550
t.brainlet
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>never heard no afrobeat
>lol racist!
go back at reddit dude
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>>74117585
all of those are valid answers. Fucking kill yourself
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>>74119641
>"It takes no skill"
objectively untrue... most of the time
>"It promotes degeneracy"
you say that like it's a bad thing.
>"It's nigger music"
so?
>"The Jews are using it to brainwash people"
jews are fucking awesome bro, they gave us jerry seinfeld and leonard cohen
>"Millennials only pretend to like it because they're SJW cucks who want to pretend to be tolerant"
what's it like being afraid of PC? i can't imagine being that much of a pussy
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>>74119574
>YOU NEED SOME CERTAIN LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCES TO REALLY APPRECIATE AESOP ROCK CRAFT
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>>74118019

bugmen=/=numale
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>>74117197
I've listened to zero of those albums. Should I care for any of them?
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>>74119738
TPAB is overrated af, GKMC and DAMN are both far better
MBDTF is pop rap at its best, gets kinda proggy at times
GKMC is a great album that occasionally lets its concept get in the way of the actual music. the highlights are fucking masterful
Blackstar is Bowie's best album since Heroes
Carrie & Lowell is the most overrated indie folk album of the decade. just listen to fleet foxes instead.
The Seer is god-tier post-rock on the level of GYBE's best work
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>>74117550
>the only 2010s album worth saving is ranked 8 on a list without hip-hop
Sad!
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>>74119822
joanna newsom's only worthwhile album is divers.
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>>74119839
>ranked even lower
Double sad!
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thread died but heres this
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>>74119919
these are all the songs on to pimp a butterfly
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TPAB: One of the best albums of the decade. Really took the concept of real instruments and complex studio effects coming together to the next level, creating production honestly far more dense than baby ass Kanye. Kendrick's got a wide variety of delivery/flow styles that most rappers can't do on a single record. The album especially on the second half starts to bring in many poly-rhythms both from the arrangements and the raps.

All you people jealous that you aren't black after a black person made such a masterpiece. Sorry, whitey alt-righty, but you are starting to only get more irrelevant as you are unable to pick up on the subtleties of one of the new generation GOAT albums. Black power making whiteys ADHD as fuck. Git gud, faggots.
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>>74119959
and yet you don't mention the fact that the album is unable to justify its length and is abound with lame hooks and generally colorless production.

thankfully we did get masterpieces from kenny tho. GKMC and DAMN.
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>>74119781
I agree with everything in this post
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>TPAB>GKMC
>TPAB>MBDTF
what the fuck is this website
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>>74119641
>>74119939
wow thank you my boy for explaining those magnificent pieces of art~~! I know see that he's not just a stupid rap PERSON OF COLOR, but i now see him as the philosopher, as a creator... wow
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>>74120020
>>74119781
TPAB is far more dense in production than MBDTF and GKMC while Kendrick's sheer variety in flow/delivery is far more diverse than both those records (yes, even with all those guests on MBDTF, he's that diverse on it.) It's a much tougher record to digest compared to GMKC and MBDTF, but it's infinitely better. The fact that /mu/ is filled with people who think otherwise really show how little the users here are able to pay attention to individual details in music.
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>>74120056
diversity does not necessarily equal quality
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>>74120113
It does in this case where Kendrick does tiny little things like changing how he says boo boo each time in each track. Or his fluctuating flow on u. Or How Much A Dollar Costs constant flow weaving from its polyrhythms. All this stuff gives the music a kind of character and emotion that wouldn't be there otherwise. It's the one record where Kendrick's not just being himself, but other characters as well by using his diversity of flow/delivery.
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>>74120056
The instrumentals are mostly boring nu-jazz. Yes his diversity in flows is amazing, but as someone who isn't interested in the subject matter and doesn't like the more serious side of hip-hop in general, the album really isn't interesting.
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>>74120193
>The instrumentals are mostly boring nu-jazz
Wtf no they aren't? King Kunta, Alright, etc. aren't nu-jazz, and a track like U isn't even usual nu-jazz nor is it boring due to its polyphony and free jazz influence not common in nu-jazz.
>someone who isn't interested in the subject matter
Not sure how someone can't get into subjects related to self-love/self-hate, but it's your opinion so w/e
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>>74119959
>>74120056
Lol you're throwing around so many weasel words and shit. Why does it matter that he uses "real instruments" and "wide variety of delivery"? Why do you think the presence or lack of polyrhythms dictates the quality of a song?

No black person I've met seriously listens to the songs on To Pimp a Butterfly. It's an album stuck in a bubble of white people on the internet. All praise for it exists on the probably the whitest corner of the internet, far from any resemblance of black power.
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>>74120241
I kinda forgot that side of the album, I like King Kunta but Alright is really meh imo, and the free jazz influence in For Free? and U is very unique, other than that it's really samey imo.
Also I feel like self-love/self-hate is more of an underline or recuring theme but overall it's centered in more political messages and black culture, so I don't really connect to it.
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>>74117585
>"It takes no skill" is not a valid answer. "It promotes degeneracy" is not a valid answer. "It's nigger music" is not a valid answer. "The Jews are using it to brainwash people" is not a valid answer. "Millennials only pretend to like it because they're SJW cucks who want to pretend to be tolerant" is not a valid answer.

this is not a valid argument
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>>74120346
>Why does it matter that he uses "real instruments"
Because the way the album works with combining aspects of real instrumentation and sophisticated production is fresh? It's not something that has been done the way this album does it. The idea's fresh; innovative.
and "wide variety of delivery"?
>It does in this case where Kendrick does tiny little things like changing how he says boo boo each time in each track. Or his fluctuating flow on u. Or How Much A Dollar Costs constant flow weaving from its polyrhythms. All this stuff gives the music a kind of character and emotion that wouldn't be there otherwise. It's the one record where Kendrick's not just being himself, but other characters as well by using his diversity of flow/delivery.
>Why do you think the presence or lack of polyrhythms dictates the quality of a song?
Because it helps make a track more engaging due to higher complexity and increased replay value?

>No black person I've met seriously listens to the songs on To Pimp a Butterfly. It's an album stuck in a bubble of white people on the internet. All praise for it exists on the probably the whitest corner of the internet, far from any resemblance of black power.
No talk about anything musical. Just strict anecdotal evidence. None of this matters to me or you. What matters is the music itself.
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>>74120439
>no u
he isn't trying to make an argument
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>>74119939
>He talks from the perspective of a super insecure young black man who is super big on black pride and gets very political about racism, but does self-destructive shit that his harmful to the very culture he puts up.
Yeah and that person's name is Kendrick Lamar.
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>>74120411
>other than that it's really samey imo.
I personallythink otherwise like the last few tracks becoming increasingly polyrhythmic to create further interest. Even songs done in a same style, like For Free/U's free jazz influence, or King Kunta/I's funk influence, sound totally different from one another. You got Flying Lotus on Wesley's Theory, and in typical FL style sounds simple but has more to it the harder a person listens. Complexion's closer to RnB with its smooth feel. Blacker The Berry's boom bap approach. And even a more mainstream style on Alright. The album's far more all over the place compared to say...GKMC where all the tracks are more similar in production style where it's quintessential mainstream style beats.
>Also I feel like self-love/self-hate is more of an underline or recuring theme but overall it's centered in more political messages and black culture, so I don't really connect to it.
Kinda confused what you mean here. You said that it's an underlying theme, meaning that it forms the basis of the record (which it does) but then contradict when saying it's centered around political messages and black culture? 10 of the 16 tracks are in direct reference to he himself and not anything else.
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>>74120346
>whitey alt righty getting triggered by black power
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I'm pretty sure it's the same faggot defending rap every time, their writing style is similar across multiple posts.

Anyways, reminder that rap is not good music.
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>>74120451
Well the anecdotal evidence was a response to one of the comments about black power, but w/e. I can't tell if if there's two separate posters or some autist is samefagging >>74120649
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>>74117563
Black people tend to have weird ass names

I dunno he sounds like a dark souls character
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>>74120460
yes he is
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>>74120714
>>74120728
>whitey alt rightys utterly deluded as black power makes THEM actual become autistic
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>>74119550
>reading a fucking vocabulary
What did he mean by this?
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>>74119959
Actual. Sub. Humans.
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>>74119368
>>74117764
>>74117630
>>74117667
>>74119034
>>74119024
>>74118994

People never make arguments against rap, all they know how to do is fire overused phrases they'd never say in real life.

>MUH NIGGER MUSIC
>MUH OOGA BOOGA
>MUH NU MALES
>MUH NOT REAL MUSIC
I fucking hate this board.
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>>74120172
>It does in this case where Kendrick does tiny little things like changing how he says boo boo each time in each track.

HAHAHHAHAHAHHA

HOLY FUCK THIS IS WHAT NIGGER-HOP IS? HOLY FUCK WHITE PEOPLE DESERVE TO BE WIPED OUT IF THIS IS WHAT THEY LIKE
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>>74120961
I argue like that in real life. Rap is regressive trash music, and it DOES include ebonics 99% of the time.

Niggers made good music in the past, rap isn't it.
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>>74118097
>hip-hop is having a "classic rock" moment right now. one day these albums are all going to be cliches
Makes sense, most popular hip hop sounds the same.
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>>74120950
This board is called /mu/. It is about music. Did you not realize that?
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>>74121000
I'm talking about subhumans making music
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>>74120990

It does include ebonics - you're acting like that's a bad thing somehow? Do you normally check your lyrics for grammar and discount it if they use it 'wrong?'
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>>74121010

Well, at the very least you're acknowledging that hip-hop is music for once.
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>>74121015
I don't like subhuman low intelligence culture infecting my music.
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>>74117197
how the fuck is a tpab above mbdtf?
rym is a fucking joke
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>>74121032
Just like taking a shit and taking a pic of it is "art"
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>>74121048

You can make the argument that the content in the lyrics is trashy, but how is the use of ebonics itself indicative of low intelligence?
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>>74120056
Anyone who thinks TPAB is better than MBDTF is retarded
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>>74121057

If a shit-ton of people are listening to it and calling it music, then it's music.

If a shit-ton of people are looking at something and calling it art, then it's art.

That's how things work. That's how words are given defintions, dumbass.
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>>74117630
>btw, it's not about skill but the result, the result sounds like shit. the instrumental part of it is a primtiive beat that repeats for most of the song, and the vocal part of it is literal niggers speaking about nonsense in ebonics

rock music is shitty because it's just loops of primitive riffs that keep repeating, and the vocal part of it is dumb crackers singing about vapid dumb shit

See I can do it too
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>>74121124
>If a shit-ton of people are listening to it and calling it music, then it's music.
>If a shit-ton of people are looking at something and calling it art, then it's art.
imagine being this stupid
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>>74121138
Great argument. So who decides what is and isn't art or music? Let me hear it.
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>>74121107
It is though. None of the rappers on MBDTF come close to Kendrick, MBDTF has far more simplistic rhythms, it also doesn't match up to the melodic content of TPAB when TPAB does get melodic (eg. the free jazz polyphony sections), and MBDTF ends up with even less layered production due to shitty mixing thanks to Rick Rubin.

MBDTF is just very surface level pretty pop rap.
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>>74120950
>muh IQ
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>>74117197
it's not even over yet
plus this is the Deaf Grapes decade
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>>74121157
me
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>>74121174
>>74121052

oh shit its actual music discussion. that doesn't belong here
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>>74121199
I don't even know ya black ass
You the head of the RIAA or something?
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>>74121199

imagine being this stupid
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>>74121124
Cancer modernism
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>>74121133
Doesn't work well, rock has more than riffs and more than just white people
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>>74121183
Pattern recognition is everything. IQ correlates with everything significant.
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>>74117893
Yeah but it was obvious b8
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>>74121507
Rock is hardly traditionalist
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>>74121513

that's my bad, meant to reply to
>>74121410
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>>74121523
Traditionalism is hardly a cancer, it's not spreading
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>>74120411
I never saw it that way personally. It's an album deeply rooted in black culture, yeah, but more than that it's an album deeply rooted in Kendrick himself coming to terms with how the media and pop culture have cemented him as "the black guy who raps about social issues".
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>>74117550
>Best albums of the decade - rap = sleepy-time tea rock
Goddamn, put rap back in there, it looked better before.
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>>74117388
>rap
>trash
How so anon? I'm a jazzfag but still I respect it immensely
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>>74118033
>top three artists are black

that's it lads, western civilisation is over
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