/Classical/

Dimitri Shostakovitch

Favorite 21st century composition so far?

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>>74094983
how the fuck was he so good without formal training?

>>74095030
Not this post again...

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>>74095015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyHVpwzTBhE

>>74094983
Symphonies of Yoshimatsu

>Symphony No.1 ''Kamui-Chikap''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq-eZhdtdLE

>Symphony No.2 ''At terra''
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1yX_i_X16I

>Symphony No.3 (his finest work in this genre, in my opinion obviously)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI6wo2SdSn0&t=21s

>Symphony No.4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zrJFQJhYx4&t=5s

>Symphony No.5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xBZZl4ypOI&t=5s

>Symphony No.6 ''Birds and Angels''
Movement I: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImpwYx_28oo
Movement II: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzIbyqh05AU
Movement III: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs0QSh4sJi0

Bach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NB3opeZK1s

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>mfw i stopped listening to music because speedreading it is more time effective

Is this the memer who writes Final Fantasy scores?
>>74095015
MacMillan's St John Passion probs

>>74095015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1CNNf9iU9Y
dont know much else desu

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All right /Classical/, give me the most satisfying 'Amen's you've heard.

My vote:
https://youtu.be/mvIEA2dBKGA?t=12m23s

[spoiler] Also look up 'Fader Vår (The Lord's Prayer)' by Gustaf Düben if Spotify's available to ya. [/spoiler]

>>74095602
like sacred music in general? Georgian chants? Renaissance? Requiems? Masses?

what are you asking for here?

>>74095713
the best amen cadence obviously

>>74095713
Keep it /classical/, but other than that anything goes. From Anonymous Gregorians to Schnittke, liturgical or vulgar.
So long as it's an Amen, really.

>>74095602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2olNSxDKSN0

Czerny is so good

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>>74095837
What about some gothic music?

>>74095602

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZhgsX8T8Ow

How autistic are you about finding the "best" recording of something?

>>74095602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRrJ2MXwmRQ

>>74096268
Very.

>>74095015
Probably something by Clara Iannotta

>>74096268
It's the reason why I have several versions of Webern, Beethoven and Bach.

>>74094983
So can someone explain to me why beethoven's late string quartet are supposed to be so great? I've listened to various recordings of all of them and they just seem alright to me. Is this just a meme, they don't even sound particularly better than his early quartets

>>74095015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThzSgw76Pgs

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>>74094983
Smile, Takashi!

Didn't get an answer from the previous thread, could anyone ID this piece playing (click the link to go to the time stamp, the embedded player doesn't work properly)
https://youtu.be/LLRLSJDUoDE?t=370 [Embed]

Thanks.

>>74095015
"Schnee" (2008) by Hans Abrahamsen.

I think, I haven't really listened to new music in years.

>>74097119
It's the le inevitable emancipation of the dissonance meme in full force, only believed by tasteless marxists that do not understand balance and transcendental aesthetics.

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>>74098131
Sounds a lot like Quantz desu

>>74096268
Normal i guess. I listen to three or four of the same piece and most of the time I choose the karajan one.

>>74096268
Because there's good versions and bad versions, as simple as that

It's like hearing a song from your favorite singer and then hearing a shitty cover, you're know which one you want to hear

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>also conducts no-nonsense modern mahler
why im glad i was already a fan

>>74094983
Thank God that obnoxious Rameau poster seems to have moved on.

these threads got to be complete shit with that tool spamming Rameau this ,Rameau that ...

>>74099660
nothing wrong with mahler, when you are young

but all men grow into bruckner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLtCPLIMYtc

Favorite composition

>>74100985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9390xDUuPuU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbUqKvpmPfU
>mozart clarinet concerto
>not posting the best version

>>74100301
Rameau is good though, but I personally prefer Royer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC5dDlmtrZs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7rxl5KsPjs

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>>74101212
>that interpretation
Please reconsider
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFRL6zsxTyQ

Is Telemann actually disliked or is that just a meme?

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>>74101359
>Is Telemann actually disliked or is that just a meme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_2PF7AC2hI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_7ONG_LQnA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABDY1qmMGy4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Zbg2Q6gdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au1gTdVjgew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLDNcwidBFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D-y2kJU0lg

>>74101462
I mean, I love most of his stuff. Just wondering about a claim someone made.

>>74101538
Yes it's a meme. He makes better music than half the shit that gets posted here.

>>74100309
>all men grow into bruckner
Bruckner is a pre-Mahler phase (if at all - most people just try to listen to his symphonies and decide he's average at best).
Mahler puts Bruckner to shame.

is there a link for the the rebel camus

is there a mega link or torrent for khachaturian?

>>74095602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsyOuyNh6oQ
More of a symbolic amen, but damn do she bang. Would highly recommend giving the whole thing a listen if you haven't before. At least listen to the last 2 minutes

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>Mahler

>>74096268
extremely

I always end up typing a piece name into a search engine, then blacking out for hours only to find "Karajan" the only product of the fugue state.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erabhZDGzqw
Probably written by one of the girls at the Pieta.

>>74103798
>extremely
>Karajan
Mixed messages here

>>74103841
joke
laugh pls

:c

>>74103872
Don't worry, I laughed

>>74103883
thanks, friend c:

Is Tchaikovsky the only great gay composer?

>>74105028
You forget John Corigliano
>implying that Tchakovsky was gay and not simply autistic

>Georg Friedrich Haas is a famous Austrian composer & the child of Nazi parents. His wife Mollena is a famous American kink educator & descendant of African slaves. Together they live in a public, kinky relationship they have both craved for 40 years: She is his slave & muse, he is her master – a combination that pushes people's buttons & touches on subjects like race, sexuality, politics & power dynamics. This film documents their lives between perversion, art, love & radical self-determination.
ready for kino?

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>>74105028
FPTSIU

there's literally no reason to include schönbergs textbooks in the folders unless one is interested in his personality.

>>74105386
Why?

>>74105424
he's not an original thinker and there are more modern textbooks. all you get is a snapshot of flawed standard fin de siecle curriculum colored by schönberg personality.

>>74105460
How is it flawed?

What's the greatest American work for solo piano?

>>74094983
Where do I get this guy's music?

>>74105475
culmination of 19th century misconceptions about forms, harmony, all domains of composition. hugo riemann and andre gedalge are other such specimen.

>>74105569
Wouldn't that just mean he looks at those concepts differently? What's the RIGHT way of looking at those concepts then?

>>74105554
Youtube, check this post. If you mean to buy, he publishes his work in Chandos website
>>74095179

>>74095015
Doctor Atomic

>>74100301
Rameau is good but he overexaggerated his greatness and acted like Rameau invented music.

>>74105028
Aaron Copland, Leonard Bernstein, the list goes on...

>>74105946
All you said was jews, what a coincidence...

>>74105603
lets just say a lot of good modern textbooks were written after 1970s

>>74105386
His fundamentals of Musical Composition is excellent. I'm not sure if it's in the OP folders though.

Schoenberg's personality doesn't really come through in his textbooks. There are purely textbooks for students to learn from.

>>74100301
i wish the weeb baroque fag would also fuck off for good

i'd rather have a million bogposters in each thread than that autistic anime garbage

his taste in music is also awful

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>>74096268
>spend hours searching the "best" recording
>only download 24-bit FLACs

Peak autism I'd say

>>74098131
>>74098873

Found it in the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWzlQMq83NA

How fitting that it was composed by Fredrick II himself.

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>the audience interests me only in as far as it improves the acoustics of the concert hall

what did schönberg mean by this?

>>74106444
He appreciates coughs and sneezes during performances like all conisseurs do.

>>74106444
Concert halls have very bright acoustics without being full of people. Generally they sound better with people padding them out.

Like most great composers, Schoenberg (you should use his correct name, not his original German name that he disowned) wrote the music he wanted to write and didn't really care what the audience thought.

>>74094983
I love the guy.
He made music distinctive music you could actually listen to when everybody else was making pretentious shit.

Some of my favourites:
>Cyberbird Concerto for Sex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp9zhpuRlUw

>And The Birds Are ill... for String Ensemble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0guuuE6NjjQ

>White Cuckscapes for Flute, Harp, Cello and String Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLnUhitm0w4

>Memeora Flora Piano Concerto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAymD_BL_qI&t=22s

>Plebian Dances for Piano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuopLypqsq4

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>music in an empty hall sounds even worse than in a hall filled by empty people

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>Arnold Schoenberg, conductor Otto Klemperer, conductor Hermann Scherchen, composer Anton Webern and writer/musician Erwin Stein

when will they learn?

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>>74106556
>Schoenberg (you should use his correct name, not his original German name that he disowned)

>>74106657
What is Mahler doing there

>>74106657
Neither Scherchen nor Webern were Jewish btw.
also, Webern was supportive of the Third Reich

>>74106757
hownew

>>74106691
chillin

>>74106609
depends what you're looking for in your sound quality. If you want a really bright unnatural sound - no people is fine. If you want a mellower sound without unnatural echoes all over the place, having padding (ie. people) is preferable.

If you don't know much about acoustics, now is the time to either do some research or stay out of the conversation and keep your greentext and reaction images to yourself.

>>74106871
why did he say "empty people" and not just people though? is contempt for goyim also part of acoustics?

>>74097119
You probably still have no ear and musical memory, his late quartets sounds nothing like the early ones? Can't you seriously hear how complex the counterpoint is, how refined and labyrintic the form has become, and the mastery Beethoven achieved over ornamentation? Lots of things are happening in every bar, and studying his scores will show you that these compositions are almost logical, inevitable, if you know what he is doing.

>>74106757
Eh, he just praised Hitler in some letters (while also writing letters to Berg in which he says that Hitler is evil blablabla). Also his music was banned by Nazi plebs in 1938: at the end of the war Webern just kinda liked Hitler's character, but apart from that he was swindling between an apolitical position and an antiNazi one.

Pfitzner: that was a nazi!

>>74095030
Apparently Berlioz had the luck to be able to hear music at command. He mentions many times in his biography trance states in which he is able to hear fully orchestrated music in his head and jot that down immediatly. Beethoven, Schibert and Mozart could do it, Schumann was envious cause of it for his entire life, for he had to compose at the piano.
Also Berlioz was a truly dedicated (almost manic) student. Notice that he was already composing mature, fully orchestrated works 2 years after having started studying. In 6 years he had already mastered music enough to write the Symphonie Fantastique, and 4 years in he was already a finalist (even as a student he was among the best composers in France).

Basically: be a genius; naturally be able to hear music in your head; study 16 hours everyday; be bipolar, so that when you're manic you can study 18 hours.

>>74095015
"Shadowtime" by Ferneyhough

mem

Do you guys know any good recordings of Gesualdo's music?

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What are some good pieces for pic related?

>>74110437
Debussy's Deux Danses Pour Harpe Et Orchestre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mhCJlO7U6E

>>74106389
Not surprised since Quantz was Frederick's flute teacher.

any good books on schoenberg or classical music in the 20th century in general?

>>74110826
The rest is noise by Alex Ross covers it all. Check the sources at the end if you want more of it.

https://my.mixtape.moe/wyloim.mp3
>BWV 1065.1 chiptune style

Rossini+Mozart comic operas are top-tier comfy

Since this general gets so quiet around these hours, I would be interested to know if basically all of us are from Europe

https://strawpoll.com/whspy43r
https://strawpoll.com/whspy43r
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whats the music in this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ngUoCyttMI

Damn, Beethoven really upped his counterpoint game after the 27th piano sonata.

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Motherfucking Romanians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtAfF0LBJ4k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJh6i-t_I1Q