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Is Hip Hop more popular than Rock?

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>tfw melon brings 5 black hiphop channel dudes to discuss how Hip Hop is the dominant culture.
Are they bragging about how Hip Hop is now a commercial genre that is easily accessible to everyone?
>Rock was edgy, now it's Hip Hop.
I don't see how this is a good thing to brag about
>People using words like 'That's Dope, That's lit' means that Hip Hop is taking over.
Implying that this is actually something to get pride from.
How can you be happy when your genre is getting commercialized in order to appeal to as many people as possible? Why is this even a discussion without a person to support the opposite view?
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Rock doesn't chart like it used to.
The last really acclaimed, culturally relevant rock band was Nirvana.
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>>74018859
Hip Hop is objectively more popular than rock.

I'm a rock fan and unlike a lot of other rock fans I'm not insecure as shit about my genre of choice becoming less popular. Go back to your Car Seat Headrest shit fuccboi
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Hip Hop? Rock?

It's all black baby. Hell, even country is black.
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>>74018859
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKEVfMYRi8I
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>>74018859
>Why is this even a discussion without a person to support the opposite view?

what is the opposite view?
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>>74018908
I'm not insecure about my genre boi.
But, you can't put up a video like that discussing how hip hop is dominant without the opposition!
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>>74018947
Wheres your proof that hip hop isn't more popular than rock, cucko?
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>>74018946
A rock fan, or someone neutral.
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>>74018961
I've never said that it's not
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>>74018966
do you see it as a matter of opinion?
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>>74018984
why are you in opposition then?
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>>74018859
Yeah, right now hip-hop is in vogue
Pretty much all pop music is some form of hip-hop these days. A fair amount is weak alt-rock bullshit, but hip-hop edges it out.
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>>74018998
Don't forget those funky Scandinavian producers.
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>>74018947
>>74018984
?
Does it really matter if they have someone arguing that rock is as popular as ever? If they have the chart data to back up that hip-hop is more popular, it doesn't matter.
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all of you are totally missing the point of the video, its not a discussion as much as it is them trying to prove something they believe is true
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>>74018886

Radiohead
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>>74019040
Radiohead's praise comes from the fact that they "destroyed" rock music and became a primarily electronic act. Their success is evident of rock's death, not continued relevance.
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>>74018859
>tfw melon brings 5 black hiphop channel dudes to discuss how Hip Hop is the dominant culture.
Are they going to fuck his girlfriend in the next episode while he watches and gives critical commentary?
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>>74018930
This post is b8.
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>>74018859
>Is Hip Hop more popular than Rock?
Yes
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>>74018938
does melon bump in the whip though?
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>Five football fans sit and talk about how football is the best sport
>All of them agree since they are football fans
>Nobody is there to defend another sport
>These five people come out in public to declare their conclusion that football is the best sport

Do you really support statements like that?
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>>74019063
(nice meme)
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rock becoming slightly more underground is a bad thing?
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>>74019251
No
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>>74019246
Prove me wrong.
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>>74018947
Myke is more into Metal than Hip Hop though
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>>74019251
No, it's extremely good. There's a complete noise rock / black metal / powerviolence renaissance taking place that nobody reports on because it's taking place on tape labels.
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>>74018947
They don't need to, you just have to go outside or put the radio on to know it's true
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>>74019287
(No no no no no no no no.)
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>One day hip hop will fade away like Rock has
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>>74019344
Yeah underground punk is doing great right now. There's a fucking awesome Oi! rebirth that's going on but you'd never hear about it on P4K.
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>>74019379
that day can't come soon enough
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>>74019429
>DAE born in le wrong generation? XD
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>>74019446
kill yourself
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>>74019429
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>>74019429
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>>74019452
well that certainly dispels my notion of rock listeners as being bitter and edgy
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>>74019465
You'll learn with time that r/lewronggeneration isn't funny, we understand
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The video's stupid because

1. they have nothing intelligent to say
2. everyone already knows hip hop is more important
3. nothing critical or analyzing about music

IHE's video was pretty pleb but at least it took a look at scores
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Is Fantano going to give Sargon a segment?
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>>74019496
I hope not, can't I go one day without this asshole shoving his stupid shit down my throat?
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>>74018859
Rock is boring and most of it sounds the same while hip-hop and rap is constantly finding new ways to be sung.
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>>74019619
Yeah, but most of hip hop and rap sounds boring and sounds the same too
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>>74019510
What a pussy faggot you are.
You realize this is the Internet? Fantano isn't a public figure in any capacity. If you're getting tired of, it's because you can't stop clicking links to his videos or threads talking about his videos, you dumbfuck.
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>>74019655
I'm talking about Sargon you retard!
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>How can you be happy when your genre is getting commercialized in order to appeal to as many people as possible?

Because we live in an era where we define our lifestyles (or even lives) by our consumer choices.
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>>74019671
Doesn't make a difference. All these YouTube shitheads are the same.
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>white nationalists cry about hip hop taking over rock
>while also claiming it's not
>while also claiming they don't care about "commercialism"

jfc pick a side
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>>74019818
How the fuck did you come up with the white nationalists conclusion?
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>video started with its not "a politics"
>video is full of political commentaries and racism to white culture
Black people...
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>>74018859
The only reason hip-hop is more popular now is because whites listen to everything but black people refuse to step out of their comfort zone and only listen to hip-hop
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People hate their own whiteness, and they see hip-hop as a way to rescind that whiteness.
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>>74019818
you, I like you. you win the internet today, you magnificent bastard.
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>>74019633
nah
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>>74019619
hip hop is the blandest and most homogenous form of pop in existence
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>>74018859
Caught in your feelings OP ?

Rock as a culture has been in the gutter since the 2000's, there's nothing exciting or thought provocking for young people anymore. Just an endless deference towards past sounds and attitudes. Simply put rock lost its balls.
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>>74019858
it's 4 chan senpai
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yeah this really isn't up for debate. the question wasn't "which is better", it's simply based on popularity.

i don't listen to commercial rap stations, but i do occasionally check in on my local top 40 station and my local rock station. the top 40 station is about what you'd expect. the rock station is basically """"classic rock"""" 80% of the time, with the remaining 20% being a revolving door of various "new music" that they've decided needs to be played and impact the billboard rock charts.

here's a short list of bands and artists that mainstream rock radio has are "2010s relevant" and decided to hype:
>Volbeat
>Royal Blood
>The Struts
>The Pretty Reckless
>Kaleo
>The Revivalists
>Rival Sons
as well as established acts that have been around for a while and still put out new stuff like RHCP and Kings of Leon.

that right there is the reason why "rock is no longer relevant" is our current narrative.
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>>74018859
It's more popular than rock.

What DAMN has done to the charts, all, sales, streaming and airplay is really something that nobody really saw coming. DAMN doing what it has done this year is an outlier. By all accounts, that album should not really be the juggernaut that it is. It has not left the top 5 since release.

Rock has shifted too but it still won't let a black artist come out and call themselves a rocker and expect to be accepted by the rock fans, who are aging now anyway. And to me it looks like a lot of these kids who used to pick up guitars download Ableton instead.
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