What is the Whitest music genre?

>>73940876
No it's indie folk
it's also suprisingly the most nu-male genre

It's classical

It's RAC

Folk-punk.

Nu metal is the answer

>>73940891
Please don't say "nu-male" it's really embarrassing.

emo
but on /mu/ it's probably hip hop

>>73940908
t. nu-male

Concious Hip-Hop

>>73940876
anything "indie"
pop-punk
blackgaze

>>73940894
Chevalier de Saint-Georges was black

>>73940908
t. nu-male

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>>73940894
bait

>>73940923
This

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math rock, ska, dick sucking

>>73940922
>>73940936
Kek. I'll be praying for you both.

>>73940925
The lead singer of Bloc Party is a nigger

>>73940925
>anything "indie"

Bloc Party instantly comes to mind
But thats the only counter-example I cam think of

>>73940876
prog rock :^)

>>73940970
>>73940985
TV on the Radio

>>73940961
>Math Rock
Toe are nips

>>73940876
Country
Bluegrass

>>73940962
>Praying
Oh, boy. And I thought people here would be at least somewhat smarter than the general population. And it's not like this is the first time I've seen similar responses.

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>>73941408
lol. *tips*

>>73941024
who release music geared toward the white demographic

>>73941427
>lol. *tips*
Great rebuttal. I'm convinced your magical sky friend is real now. Oh, and by the way, how many times has prayer worked in situations such as the one in your epic reaction image?

>>73941445
By that standard hip hop is the whitest genre ever

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>>73941447

>>73941500
I hate that a lot of the jokes made here are just South Park references.

>>73941500
This image would apply if you weren't replying to his every post

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>>73940876
euro/space/italo disco
library music
the entire history of rock music since early 60s
the entire history of electronic music since the 40s
the entire history of classical music
pic related

>>73940961
>ska
Holy shit do you realise that ska isn't just ska punk? my god

>>73940898
Seconded

>>73941500
https://science.nasa.gov/astrophysics/focus-areas/what-powered-the-big-bang
https://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/bb_tests_cmb.html
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF02100115?LI=true
http://dna1.genome.ou.edu/5853/outofafrica/MitoDNA-ACWilson-Nature1987.pdf
We are done here. But of course, feel free to post more of those epic reaction images, instead of a single word defending your position.

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>>73940891
>>73940922
>>73940936
t. nu-males

>>73940876
European Art Music
I'm not considering "White" a derogatory term like some vegan numale would.

>>73941679
Veganism isn't an imaginary SJW concept. If you wan to educate yourself, here are some resources:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3603726/
https://www.eatrightpro.org/~/media/eatrightpro%20files/practice/position%20and%20practice%20papers/position%20papers/vegetarian-diet.ashx
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20951759
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/pdf/nutrients-06-02131.pdf

>>73941664
but i am a grill anon

>>73941736
I don't want to because I don't give a fuck about vegansim because I'm not a numale.

>>73941748
Damn, what sick burns. It's pointless arguing with you, because big words scare people and so does having to admit to being wrong on a certain position. But hey, you don't care about things and obviously they don't matter anymore, especially to true savages like you.

>>73940908
t. nu-male

>>73941791
Veganism is fucking stupid
>Being this obvious
Can I speak to your superior as to why they hired you on when you're this big of a shit flinging retard

>>73941747
no you're not

there are no girls on the internet

>>73941791
Not him but I also don't care about veganism.
What are the main reasons that should convince me to inconvenience my life by switching to veganism?

>>73941679
t. nu-male

>>73941747
t. nu-grill

>>73941823
It makes you super skinny and lowers your testosterone until you become a frail numale that calls himself a feminist and gets easily offended and writes articles for Salon.

>>73941621
Smh
All of this is accepted by the Church, the first proponent of the Big Bang was a priest.

>>73941862
>>73941874
t. numales

>>73941791
t. nu-male

>>73940876
>>73940891
No it's twee.

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>>73941819
Nothing but ad hominem attacks. No need for any further replies.
>>73941823
>inconvenience my life by switching to veganism?
I suppose you live in in a first world country with constant access to variety of foods, including meat and dairy substitues, first of all. The longest living population on Earth is the Californian Adventist population, who are vegan. Cooked meat produces known carcinogens such a heme iron, methionine and high fat meals kill insulin producing beta cells. Red meat has also been classified as a known carcinogen by the World Health organization and they recommend a vegan diet, along with the Academy of Nutrition and
Dietetics. On top of that the editor-in-chief of the American College of Cardiology has classified cholesterol, which is found in animal products as the only factor for developing atherosclerosis. I'm sure you're well aware of global warming, but I'm not sure you're aware of the fact that the animal agricultures accounts for ~51% of green house gas emissions. For any sensible person, "incoveniencing" his life for the sake of health and the enviornment isn't futile.
https://www.worldwatch.org/files/pdf/Livestock%20and%20Climate%20Change.pdf

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oh sorry then
wrong image

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>>73941909
>animal agricultures accounts for ~51% of green house gas emissions
Why do we never hear of lefty regulations on animal agriculture?
Hmmm it's almost as if saving the planet was never the point of their global warming agenda

>>73942044
I think it's clear to everyone at this point that those people aren't interested in anything other than the most insignifficant and petty issues.

>>73942044
>>73942055
Veganz are right about greenhouse emissions but its hilarious that they think they can do anything

>>73942106
It's not just "veganz", climate and enviornmental scientists agree something can be done, but certainly not with the ammount of willfully ignorant people there are. And some countries are actually making drastic changes, although in other areas:
https://www.dezeen.com/2017/07/07/france-ban-all-petrol-diesel-vehicles-by-2040-design-news/

>>73942143
>quoting my accidental spelling mistake
You tryna get me look at the big picture while you petty as fuck? Lead by example little man

>>73940985
tv on the radio
young fathers
lightspeed champion

but more to the point all the "indie" kids these days listen to frank ocean

>>73942177
>Lead by example little man
Why are you insulting me and how do you know I'm not? I wasn't even aware that you made a spelling mistake, given the position of other posters on vegan diets and I took it as just petty mockery.

>>73940876
there's no way it's hardcore, what a stupid thing to say

also most of the good post-rock that's been released since the 90s has come from japan

>>73942223
>also most of the good post-rock that's been released since the 90s has come from japan
Names please.

>>73942228
envy
mono
world's end girlfriend
toe

the actual answer is britpop

>>73941909
Would the improvements in my health that I'd get by being a vegan (instead of a health-conscious non-vegan) be actually significant enough to compensate the inconvenience and monetary cost of beimg vegan?
I don't think so, as they'd be pretty small.

The average vegan is indeed healthier than the average non-vegan, but that's because most vegan are health-conscious and careful with nutrition, while the general non-vegan population is not.
If we compare a vegan and a non-vegan that are comparably health-conscious and careful with nutrition, would the vegan be significantly healthier?
I don't think so.

Also, regarding gas emissions, unless the number of vegans becomes a big slice of the population (which won't happen anytime soon), the production of meat won't slow down by any significant margin, so the imperceptible difference I would make to the environment isn't enough to convince me to go through the constant hassle of being vegan.

It's definitely hardcore.

>>73942316
bad brains were far too popular/influential, and I can tell you've never been to a hardcore show

>>73942253
>envy
Post-hardcore, no? Though I've only heard that one album with the truck on the cover.
>Mono
On my list.
>WEG
Same.
>Toe
Same. I thought you actually had new bands to name.

>>73942353
>I thought you actually had new bands to name.
are you autistic? the fact they are popular, seminal bands is literally the point because it disproves post-rock being a white genre

>>73942308
>inconvenience and monetary cost of beimg vegan
You don't have to exclusively eat meat and dairy substitutes. Potatoes, tomatoes, green vegetables, oats, beans, rice are some of the cheapest foods available worldwide.
https://www.peta.org/living/food/vegan-recipes-dont-starve-until-payday/
>If we compare a vegan and a non-vegan that are comparably health-conscious and careful with nutrition, would the vegan be significantly healthier?
There are.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2125600/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312295/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7019459
>Sedentary Vegan health outcome vs Marathon runners following a standard American diet:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696
You seem to have the opinion of aspiring to be healthy as simply an inconvenience for some reason. I think I've provided enough sources for every single one of your questions and I can see you're a reasonable, but at this time a wilfully ignorant person. Take your time to understand these medical journals and I'm sure reason will prevail. I enjoyed talking to you.
>Also, regarding gas emissions, unless the number of vegans becomes a big slice of the population (which won't happen anytime soon), the production of meat won't slow down by any significant margin, so the imperceptible difference I would make to the environment isn't enough to convince me to go through the constant hassle of being vegan.
You know what would? More people not contributing to global warming by supporting the animal agriculture industry and reducing your carbon footprint.

>>73942380
I don't care about the thread. You said
>most of the good post-rock that's been released since the 90s has come from japan
And you posted four bands. That's not most, that's a drop in a lake. I'm just disappointed that's all you had.

>>73942308
was vegan for two years (now I eat fish). the only significant difference in vegan vs. non-vegan health is that vegans on average get well above their recommended amount of fibre and non-vegans get well below. but as you said this is due to choices within the diet and not the diet itself. anyone who eats meat can simply eat more vegetables

>>73942491
>That's not most, that's a drop in a lake.
it's most of the good bands, third wave post-rock is a creative wasteland

>>73942512
>third wave post-rock is a creative wasteland
I see this all the time here and nobody ever elaborates. Can you elaborate?

>>73942542
I had a dream that I was facedown and someone had a gun to my head and they were gunna shoot me or take all my shit and I begged them not to rape me but I was fine if they raped my face and I never got to see their face because they kept my head down. I've had nightmares for two nights in a row. Now I can't even escape in my dreams.

>>73942553
Sounds like a problem. Doesn't answer my request.

>>73942566
True, thanks for listening saves me 500 bucks

>>73942542
no, I think the statement is clear enough already. it is the absence of an ability to elaborate on the presence of creativity in third wave post-rock that proves the point

>>73942575
Do you want to be facefucked or something?
>>73942579
>no, I think the statement is clear enough already
It is not. It is the equivalent of those retards who go
>June Of 44 is a Slint ripoff
So I'll ask again. Can you elaborate? I ask as someone who hasn't listened to much post-rock.

>>73942594
>it is the absence of an ability to elaborate on the presence of creativity in third wave post-rock that proves the point

>>73942648
>It is not. It is the equivalent of those retards who go
>>June Of 44 is a Slint ripoff
You are unable or unwilling to point out examples of creativity vs examples of lack of creativity. So you're either parroting something you read on this board, or unwilling to take the time to discuss music on a music board so it's a waste of time to converse with you. I wonder which it's gonna be.

>>73942664
it is not the equivalent to that statement at all, one being a positive claim and the other a negative claim

>>73942716
So you're unwilling and it's a waste of time. Got it. See ya on the flipside.

>>73940962
such a snarky nu-male post

>>73940897
/thread

It's Christian *

Rock, rap, pop, whatever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa0EtdtPi8w

>>73942742
nice sign off

>>73942453
>You don't have to exclusively eat meat and dairy substitutes. Potatoes, tomatoes, green vegetables, oats, beans, rice are some of the cheapest foods available worldwide.
Don't you have to get other stuff to make up for the nutrients you miss from not eating meat?
Like supplements and/or rare foods that contain them?

>You seem to have the opinion of aspiring to be healthy as simply an inconvenience for some reason.
Not at all.
Just being a health-conscious vegan over being a health-conscious non-vegan.
You can't deny that there are multiple inconveniences in the life of a vegan, like having to compensate for the missed nutrients or not being able to eat whatever you might have to eat (like whan you're invited somewhere and can't eat their food because it contains meat or animal products), and having your choices of food severely restricted, etc.

What if you only reduced the meat in your diet to significantly reduce the damage they do to your health, without going all-or-nothing and make it a lifestyle choice?
You'd get the best of both worlds this way, no?
Of course, that's unless you're vegan because you can't stand eating animals (because you think it's barbaric or whatever) or other such moral reasons.

>You know what would? More people not contributing to global warming by supporting the animal agriculture industry and reducing your carbon footprint.
I agree.
My point was that it won't happen on any significant scale within my lifetime, so it's not really convincing for me to change my life for something so insignificant.

>I think I've provided enough sources for every single one of your questions and I can see you're a reasonable, but at this time a wilfully ignorant person. Take your time to understand these medical journals and I'm sure reason will prevail. I enjoyed talking to you.
I'm honestly trying to understand the advantages and trying to weigh them under my point of view.
I'll take my time and read your links as soon as I can.
Thank you.

>>73942811
not him, but it's just b12 that you don't get. easily supplemented, and cheap. actually many foods like cereals are already foritfied with it anyway.

as an alternative you could just eat bivalve molluscs, which are effectively vegan and probably don't qualify as "rare" in any western country

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It's v a p o r w a v e how could it be anything else

>>73942896
what about that meme spic that always gets posted here

>>73940897
this

>>73940897
>RAC
more like (C)rac(k) lmao

>>73942875
Interesting, so the "vegans have to spend more money to get the same nutrients" is just a myth?

>>73940898
yeah

>>73940876
any genre with the prefix "post"

Country

Wealthy Asian countries are pretty much White. Both in term of actual skin color and mentality they match the image of the reclusive white indie boy.

>>73940894
>classical
>genre
kys

>>73943094
Of course, I even provided a link here:
>>73942453
https://www.peta.org/living/food/vegan-recipes-dont-starve-until-payday/

>>73942811
>My point was that it won't happen on any significant scale within my lifetime, so it's not really convincing for me to change my life for something so insignificant.
This is an appeal to futility. You even admitted you wouldn't apply the same fallacy when in regards to your diet, which is far more directly responsible for your health.
>I'll take my time and read your links as soon as I can. Thank you.
And thank you too for being rational and having an honest and a productive conversation.

>>73943480
Hey man, if it ain't Baroque, don't fix it..

>>73943517
>This is an appeal to futility. You even admitted you wouldn't apply the same fallacy when in regards to your diet, which is far more directly responsible for your health.
What do you mean?
I didn't say I'd change my diet even if it had insignificant effects on my health.
The whole point of my first post (>>73942308) was to understand how much being vegan would affect my life, so I can decide if it's significant enough to consider (implying that if it's not, It wouldn't be worth it to me).

>>73943732
>The whole point of my first post
*second post (if we count this >>73941823)

>>73943732
>I didn't say I'd change my diet even if it had insignificant effects on my health.
But sedentary vegans have better arterial health than marathon runners following a standard American diet. That's not insignifficant.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696
What's more, vegan blood is 10 times less hospitable to cancer.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3048091/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4315380/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3565018/
These are not insignifficant health benefits. And here's an MD who's reversed heart dissease with diet alone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P4pk-UffE0

>>73943901
?
I'm not saying it's insignificant. I was wondering wether it is or not, and I'm saying that IF it was it wouldn't be worth it for me to respond to this post [>>73943517] where you say I wouldn't apply the same "it it's insignificant it's not worth it" I used for the environmental pros for the health ones also.

>>73943901
Couldn't you achieve those effects by minding what you eat and reducing your meat intake without being completely vegan?

What about vegetarians?
How much worse is their health compared to vegans?

>>73943965
Here's something more digestible in a form of a video with studies linked in the description:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdJCP4j33pw

>>73944115
What about vegetarians?
How much worse is their health compared to vegans?

>>73944152
Just watch the video. It's explained.

>>73944177
My English may not be very good, because I only hear him talking about people who got negative effects when they ate a small amount of meat compared to those who didn't eat meat al all.

What I'm asking is whether people who don't eat meat but eat other animal products have all those side effects of eating meat.

In other words, if eating meat is that harmful, do you really need to be fully vegan to avoid the negative effect, or you can just stop eating meat and continue to eat things like dairy, honey, etc?

hip hop

>>73941664
>white knighting
>white pride

pick one

>>73944276
In the simplest of terms, what he said there is - health benefits are observed the more animal products you exclude from your diet.

>>73944413
Is it the part where he says:
>The adventist studies show that you go from meat eating, to flexitarian, to pescovegetarian to *?* you get stepwise drop in diabetes risk, hypertension risk, obesity risk, all the way along the spectrum...
Correct?

I assume he's referring to the studies linked in the description, and the only thing about the difference between vegan and vegetarians I found was this:
>Compared to lacto-ovo-vegetarian diets, vegan diets seem to offer additional protection for obesity, hypertension, type-2 diabetes, and cardiovascular mortality.
here:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871675
Is this what you mean?

How does the correlation become the causation?
I mean, how do they know it's because of the meat and animal products, and not because those who are dedicated enough to go vegan are also those who are most careful about being healthy in general?

Also, I'd like to send this stuff to my friend who's very anti-veganism, but I'm sure he'll just dismiss them saying that they're made by a pro-vegan group (the adventist) and they have an agenda.
Do you have anything that's "nonpartisan"?

>>73944726
>>73941736
>>73941909

>>73944902
I mean studies that show that being vegan is healthier than being vegetarian.

>>73944726
>I mean, how do they know it's because of the meat and animal products, and not because those who are dedicated enough to go vegan are also those who are most careful about being healthy in general?
There's mechanicstic data. We actually know the mechanisms through which negative health effects of animal products on human health occur. Everything you mentioned before this was correct. And here's the study you're looking for (a comparison of sedentary vegans health outcomes vs marathon runners following a standard American diet):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17518696

>>73944955
Oh, sorry. This is what you're actually looking for:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24523914
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3985239
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3638849/

>>73945055
>a comparison of sedentary vegans health outcomes vs marathon runners following a standard American diet
Is a standard American diet healthy (but not vegan), or unhealthy?
If it's unhealthy, do you have something that compares people who eat healthy but not vegan with people who eat vegan?

>>73945093
Aren't those the same studies in the description of that video?
Only the one I linked touched on the "vegan vs vegetarian" thing, while the others are all about "meat eaters vs plant eaters".
Or am I missing something?

>>73945209
Standard American diet is very unhealthy and obviously not vegan.
https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/standard-american-diet/
>Aren't those the same studies in the description of that video?
Exactly. Just take your time to understand these findings.

>>73945342
>Standard American diet is very unhealthy and obviously not vegan.
So is there a comparison between people who follow a healthy nonvegan diet vs people who follow a healthy vegan one?
Just so we can have everything else equal and isolate the vegan vs nonvegan differences, and be sure that it's not because of other factors (like the possibility that vegans might be healthier because they're health conscious instead of just being vegan).

Because as I'm understanding it, that study only compares the benefits of being vegan with the benefits of being physically active, which only proves that a healthy vegan diet is better than eating an unhealthy diet and running a lot.
It doesn't show the difference between eating a healthy vegan diet and eating a healthy nonvegan one.

>>73945342
>Exactly. Just take your time to understand these findings.
But I'm asking for a nonpartisan study that shows how being vegan is better than being vegetarian, so I can show my overly-skeptical friend.
There isn't any in those links you gave me.
There is only one study who touches that subject and it's by the Adventists, which he'll dismiss immediately.

>>73940908
numale

>>73941664
Oh no ya got me!

oi! is probably most white pride

maybe punk rock too

Any metal genre

>>73947713
>thrash
>death
>hell even black metal at this point

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how is this even a question?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga1WyWsxD6Y

>>73940876
I am neither fat enough, nor bearded enough to understand this genre/question.