New GY!BE album announcement

That's a bit embarrassing.

I won't
I don't fully agree with their politics but their music is fucking amazing always so getting that and getting to see /pol/ stragglers autist rage at the same time will be great

seems pretty standard for gy!be, gonna assume anyone who gets upset/surprised about it is either underaged or stupid

File: 145457974530234'.png (261KB, 630x565px) Image search: [Google]

261KB, 630x565px

>>73931635
>avant garde metal

Thank fuck their material is instrumental, their political stances are outright embarassing

>DUDE ANARCHY IS AWESOME AND THE STATE IS AN EMPTY ROTTEN HUSK LMAO
>PS thank you to the Governments of Canada and Quebec for the grant money :^)

>no export to Israel

T O P K E K
O
P
K
E
K

>>73931737
their violinist is literally justin trudeau's sister

>>73931635
eh, they've always been cringey as fuck regarding politics. just listen to the music, it's not like the meaning behind it really matters when there's no lyrics

File: [Laughter Stops] Kira.jpg (52KB, 960x596px) Image search: [Google]

52KB, 960x596px

>>73931635
>avant-garde metal

>>73931698
>>73931805
I really hope it is.

File: eJwNyEEOhCAMAMC_8ABKASn4G4IETVQIrSfj33fnOK965qlWtYsMXgG2g0ufm2bpM7eqW-_trHkcrEu_IIvksl_1FgaLSyCy6EPyzqQYEzhM1v8nkiHj0UYD6FPAiBQWR0GPu6nvB77IIn4.png (123KB, 577x603px) Image search: [Google]

123KB, 577x603px

>no export to israel

>>73931787
What? The only Sophie connected to Justin is his wife, who absolutely isn't in Godspeed. They were happy to hypocritically pinch federal money when Harper was PM too, in any case.

>>73931698
>>73931805
add a bit more distortion and it's literally just neurosis

File: 7f6bcf28-0c5e-4f13-8599-6a07a175fa86.png (64KB, 702x420px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 702x420px

>>73931874
yeah I meant his wife, my bad

>health care is a human right
Wait so, say there is a new country, blank canvas. By making health care a human right, wouldn't you have to force people to work in the medical industry and force them to serve people? Wouldn't that violate the rights of those people?

>>73931921
Justin's wife is Sophie Gregoire-Trudeau, she doesn't go by Sophie Trudeau. She used to be a TV host or something, that's not the same person.

>>73931927
It's magic, Efrim is a wizard, he ain't gotta explain shit.

>>73931921
Not the same person. You're probably joking but I don't want people to get the wrong idea.

>>73931946
Isn't forcing people to a certain labour slavery?

>>73931927
People willingly work in health care.

File: Gapers TSMZ 4.jpg (140KB, 500x337px) Image search: [Google]

140KB, 500x337px

>>73931935
>>73931957
it's literally the same person. serfs don't play the violin

>>73931921
kill yourself

File: image.jpg (96KB, 822x656px) Image search: [Google]

96KB, 822x656px

>>73931981

Justin's wife looks like this, for those of you wondering.

>>73931975
But they aren't forced to serve people?

>>73932003
You could say that about nearly every job.

>>73932013
Exactly, so health care isn't a right then?

>>73932013
It's almost as if Efrim's a naive idiot

>>73931999
she dyed her hair to look more prime ministerial? such a fucking sellout

>>73932038
or just not autistic

File: 1470354411316.jpg (31KB, 600x595px) Image search: [Google]

31KB, 600x595px

>Instrumental Rock, Advant-garde Metal
>faggot music elitists think GYBE! isn't post-rock

>>73932034
It can be treated as such. Assuming people decide to willingly work in the health care industry. Which they do.

>>73932071
How?

File: ebe389c7b2f9469e914f6d49108fad0c.jpg (43KB, 770x678px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 770x678px

>>73932013
hmmmmmmm really
hmmm
makes me
hmmmm
ponder hmmmmm
really gets the gears
hmmmmm turning
hmmm mm capitalism you say?
really hmmmm
gets my
mmmhmmmm noggin joggin

>>73931635
This band was always a banal and contrived collegiate joke. The sort of shit only teenagers can take seriously.
I remember hearing their debut back in like 1999 and laughing out loud at the monologue which opened the album.

>>73932087
kek

>>73932089
well I think the tapes are literally a joke

File: e91169c5e72fbfc717904e73162a48df - Copy.jpg (32KB, 165x176px) Image search: [Google]

32KB, 165x176px

>>73932071
but would there be enough people willing to work in the industry if they didn't have to? wouldn't the quality of care drop immensely?

>>73932129
Doesn't seem to be a problem in countries with universal health care. It is incredibly difficult to get into med school in Canada because it is so competitive from so many people applying.

>>73932129
What would happen if today all doctors suddenly quit? Then what? The only way to make health care is right is government compulsion to do so. You have to force people to work and serve in that field. Health care is a good and service

>>73932154
and then they all immediately abandon Canada for the States after graduating because our country pays them absolutely dick, hence why we're stuck with India's cast-offs filling our entire health care industry.

>>73932167
That's an interesting hypothetical but it simply would never happen.

>>73932167
>what if some insane hypothetical scenario occurred and you might have to change your views on healthcare because of it? Heh, gotcha kiddo.

>>73931635
Nu-/mu/ is the one who'll defend them being anarchists

>>73932231
They can be whatever they want. Doesn't affect me.

>>73932231
t. 12 year old /r/The_Donald crossposter who's angered because most art doesn't fit his worldviews

>>73932154
it's certainly enough to piss off doctors so that they move somewhere they can make a decent living in. Making health care a right just devalues doctors work and makes them work more for less, which in turn makes their work suck and turns off people interested in the field.
Also the United States are too big to have socialized medicine. we have states bigger than european countries, so comparing the two is apples and oranges.

>>73931635
>avant garde metal

will not listen

File: 1490901001882.jpg (133KB, 800x1143px) Image search: [Google]

133KB, 800x1143px

>>73931635
>an end to foreign invasions
>an end to borders
Um, wouldn't a border less world just allow for more invasions.

>>73931635
>end to foreign invasion
>end to borders

pick one and only one retards

>caring about some bands politics
>listen to the music instead

>>73932309
the politics are injected into the music dumbass

>>73932070
>Using Constanza reactions
>thinking GY!BE is abbreviated "GBYE!"
you are obviously new please leave

>>73932167
I don't think it necessarily follows that health care as a law-enforced civil right is detached from health care as a network of economic activity. The legislative framework which ordains health care as a human right can incorporate the economic motivations of individual doctors and nurses within it.

Besides, a 'right' to health care often means simply eliminating financial barriers to access.

>>73932301
>>73932304
You tards think that the existence of borders physically prevents invasions?

>>73932329
Correct answer.

>>73932322
who gives a shit if it has political overtones if it's mostly instrumental with sampling? It's not hard to ignore the message with any music, and it's even easier with something like gy!be

>>73932359
You're right. Also, Ihonestly think that the impact their politics has on their music is greatly exaggerated.

>>73932326
It was GYBE! originally.

>>73932301
>>73932304
Did y'all hear of this band and their political views today? God I hate nu /mu/.

>>73932204
>>73932230
Okay fine, take the hypothetical out. The government doesn't force anyone to be in the medicine industry or to provide care to people in need. Therefore it isn't a right, it's a service and commodity

>>73932263
That's nice
>>73932266
t. faggot who thinks anyone who doesn't follow his worldview likes Trump

>>73931635
>an end to boarders
>NO EXPORT TO ISRAEL
Every time

>>73932359
because that's what the art represents and the reason it was created goofus
sure you can separate the politics and enjoy it at face value but that's just ignoring a large part of the meaning behind the music (even if said meaning is retarded and canadian).

>>73932397
Okay, it's a service/commodity that is publicly funded and guaranteed to all citizens. For all intents and purposes, that's a right.

>Luciferian Towers
The World Trade Center
>to be released September 22nd
>9/22
9/(11×2)
Are they saying this new album will be twice as intense as 9/11?

>having a political message
>instrumental album

pick one.

please take this shit to >>>/pol/ thanks

>>73932465
Would that be a good thing or a bad thing?

File: guy-debord.jpg (244KB, 541x600px) Image search: [Google]

244KB, 541x600px

>>73932359
>Art is completely separated from current events and critique of society, that's what the spectacle told me!

>>73932433
What's wrong with ignoring the meaning behind it? I love using soap even though it was tested on animals, I love eating chicken tendies even though the chicken were probably fattened through CAFOs and shit like that. If the final product is good, it's easy to forgive or overlook the stupid shit that went into its creation.

>>73932516
Not him, but art that comes from the soul and ones own feeling/turmoil will always be more meaningful than whoever the artist votes for.

based godspeed triggering /mu/ nu males

>>73931635
aren't the members of this band in their 40s at this point
this cartoonish college anarchist shit is a young man's game, they really should have outgrown it by now

>>73932280
That's why we do it on a state level
:^)
>>73932552
>when you get old, you must become a conservative dullard

>>73932560
Who are you quoting?

>>73932534
because the stupid shit is an inherent part of its existence. it'd be like buying chicken nuggets that were specifically advertised that chickens were tortured in the making of the nuggets and that being a primary reason people purchase those nuggets.

>>73932447
It isn't a right. It can only be a good and service. Sure you can change the definition of a right to mean a service that's funded by the government or society, but it can never be an actual human right.

>>73932552
Nice ad hominem.

>>73932396
retard

>>73931635

they are retarded antifa generation X dorks who are too old writing embarrassing shit like that. lol at them

good music for a long drive. Download it illegally, because fuck capitalism amirite?

>>73932386
yeah, I agree with this

I like to think of LYSF as more of an internal revolution rather than an external one

File: faultyschematics.jpg (116KB, 800x588px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 800x588px

>>73932540
That doesn't delegitimize any representation of its political component.

>>73931635
>an end to borders
they literally hadn't said anything wrong until this. in fact if you removed that one sentence, this would be harmless cringe. but that is the stupidest fucking sentence I've read all month. godspeed jumped the shark

>>73932604
Because of the instrumental nature of their music. Most of the meaning behind it is mostly up to the listener's personal interpretation.

>>73932501
Musically I think it would good but as a comparison I'd say it's in poor taste but funny considering their politics.

>end to borders
How will the entire world agree on a universal form of law, culture, and standards? I don't understand.

>>73931778
extra kek because all of the members of godspeed are jewish

>>73932636
Looks like someone's too poor to visit another city.

>>73932649
aren't liberals supposed to be empathetic towards the poor

>>73932329
So it's a service that's funded by the public or government? Sure you can call it a right, but for a service to be a "human right" would mean that you would have to have the government force service and a human (doctor's) labour.

>>73932649
Well no, I'm not. But how can we incorporate muslim law into this utopian world society? If we do that, how are people in muslim societies going to accept that? How can we not expect them to object to their law and culture?

>>73932615
if this wasn't contextualized w the band's musical output this would just be schizophrenia and no one would care about it

>>73932687
Just taking the service that is publicly funded and guaranteed to all citizens and referring to it as a right is good enough for me. I can't speak for GY!BE though.

>>73931853
Dank

>>73932658
The vast majority of liberals and "leftists" are ultimately just as disgusted by poverty and weakness as the average conservative, if not even more so.
They might recycle the same tired progressive platitudes, but in reality they have a lot more in common with the ruthless and vapid yuppies of the 1980s than with, I dunno, Crass or whoever.

t. worked in a community outreach program for years alongside a variety of would-be leftists

>end to borders
fucking retards. Only children believe in that

File: 081_05LPsleeveA_600px.jpg (192KB, 600x600px) Image search: [Google]

192KB, 600x600px

>>73932712
More like it's their entire aesthetic. Did your poseur ass stream their album once in Spotify or what?

>>73932301
>>73932304
>>73932432
>>73932618
>>73932636
Boo hoo, they're anarchists.

>>73932763
Then you'd be wrong about calling it a right then. You can never call a human service a right because that would mean it would be slavery. Sure, I agree with the premise that universal health care is a publicly funded service, but to call it a human right or right is simply not true

>>73932861
cry more friendo

>>73931635
>an end to foreign invasions
>an end to borders
pick one

>>73932861
Just because you're an anarchist doesn't mean that you have common sense about things

>>73932891
>t. projection and damage control 101

jog on newfag

Jesus Christ, /mu/. When did you guys get too hijacked by /pol/itics to get excited for a Godspeed album?

I'm looking forward to studio mixes of Buildings and Railroads. I'm assuming that they're called Bosses Hang and Anthem for No State.

>>73932800
There is absolutely zero reason why the entire fucking world would agree on a universal culture, law, economic system, etc... without any dispute or war. Like do these people think before they speak?

>>73932969
Who needs to look or discuss the political motivation or meaning behind their music?

>>73933026
Anarchism is not world government you goddamn acephale.

why this is less woke than they used to be

>>73933043
So they want an entire world anarchism? The human race would go extinct in a matter of years. Aren't they against war?

>>73933026
yeah tell me about it, I'm from ex-yugoslavia. With "no borders" nationalism rises really quickly and everything goes to absolute hell, even in people that are basically brothers and sisters

>>73933043
anarchism is also for children

>>73932883
If Canadians dont have a right to healthcare then what is it? A guaranteed service? Honestly the difference between a right and a guaranteed service seems pretty trivial.

>>73933026
Sure. But Godspeed has always been a radleft/ancom collective. Suddenly getting so incensed over their politics shows how far this board has been indoctrinated. They're not tumblristas or idpol fucks or bourgeois feminists; they're not going to scream at you or hate you for who you are.

They're leftists insofar as they're idealists who dream of a better world. One without was, without starvation in the streets, without corporate tyrannies and without hatred among men. Is this naive? Perhaps. But there's always some naivety to hope, and hope is what their music is about.

Just because the world is a shitheap doesn't mean we can't love a Valuska.

Real talk for a second, what the frig is this post >>73932919 supposed to mean? It's like an amalgamation of every /mu/ buzzword possible.

>>73933141
>Anarchism is also for children

Makes sense since children actually have better logic, imagination and abstract thought capabilities than adults.

>>73933143
Because a "right" would mean a government compulsion of human service. That's illegal. There's a clear difference between that and a guaranteed service in which the industry depends on the choice of doctors and workers to work.

>>73933220
>Makes sense since children actually have better logic
2017 summed up in one post everybody

>>73933233
Alright that's fair. Thanks for the clarification.

>>73933272
low iq post

>>73933154
But we have the right to criticise their worldviews and tell them that their ideas are wrong and will never work, it's why we have discussions.

Just because they want (in what they believe) to be in a "better world" doesn't mean their ideas are flawed and terrible.

cringiest thread ive ever seen

>>73933220
Damn...

>>73933325
and your post is the cherry in the cake

>>73933300
damn, I guess you're right...

>>73932615
Their early schizo ramblings were just vaguely ant-authoritarian/corruption. They went too heavyhanded with Yanqui imo, their politics work best when they're incorporated subtly into the music (the BBF3 sample, the middle eastern riff in Mladic, etc). Shit like putting a George Bush speech into the song just feels tacky and removes that mysterious element.

>>73931698
Don't tell me that doesn't get you rock hard

>>73933220
t. 12-year-old

>>73933351
It also removes the possibility of the listener taking their own experiences and perspectives and coming up with their own interpretation of the meaning behind the music.

File: serveimage.png (343KB, 650x1005px) Image search: [Google]

343KB, 650x1005px

>>73931698
It's about time they tried something new.

>>73931635
Lmao this reads like the writings of some insane homeless dude

File: foto 4.jpg (112KB, 568x366px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 568x366px

>>73934303
>insane homeless dude
u just described Efrim

>>73931635
Is this just a marketing thing?
How can adults unironically think this way? Is it because they've never had a real job?

>>73931635
>No export to Israel
>>Nu-/mu/ will call them "cucks" and "nu-males" for this
are you retarded

>>73934894
They only say that because "muh poor Palestinians"
Which is cucked.

>>73931635
Embarrassing writings, but that's nothing new for GY!BE. The album is gonna be vacuous shit as well, but that's nothing new for them either.

>>73934894
I prefer Israelis to Palestinians desu.

Post rocks sucks and Godspeed is the worst post rock band ever

Would you all kindly shut the fuck up about politics. This is the M U S I C board. Thanks in advance.