Is Grimes bad or good

Ugly and bad

Wata from Boris is truly best waifu

she's beautiful and great
/thread

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cute!

>>73927235
>/threading yourself
Plebeian

>>73927212
http://www.strawpoll.me/13434473

>>73927212
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>>73927212
>>73927234
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>>73927241
Reminder to vote. I was stupid and forgot to put the strawpoll link

>>73927212
Every generation needs to "rebel" against their parents somehow. But what do you do when your parents rebelled against THEIR parents so hard that they still pride themselves on noncomformity and anti-commercialism? Naturally, the pendulum swings back, and the answer is in acting willfully inauthentic, cliqueish, superficial, materialistic and generally yuppie-esque. It sounds like something out of some mediocre dystopian satire, but there you go: the terrible roots of the "hipster"/twee/tumblr ethos.

So, adding to the flavor-of-the-week garbage heap of Crystal Castles and Lil B, we have Grimes, who repackages what Boards of Canada already did better a decade ago ("hazy" nostalgic recontextualization of muzak) with added "detached" blank facial expressions, memes and ironic metal poses. Basically brain poison. When I'm old I hope generation Z realizes this stuff (not grimes in particular, who will be completely forgotten in 5 years) is soulless pap and discovers guitars again.

shes good why the fuck is this even a question you dipshit boys

Ugly and good.

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>>73927212
she's beautiful and great

all the people who would vote to ban grimes discussion already have the word grimes filtered and therefore won't even see this thread. so this is an inaccurate test group

>>73927212
>declared grimeshater in charge of a poll + debate
>neutrality my ass
ridiculous!

>>73927889
>the person making the poll matters even though all they've done is post it
How much of a victim complex do you have?

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>>73927257
post Nike Marie Fox's asshole pics NOW!!!

>>73927658
>all the people who would vote to ban grimes discussion
Are nitwits because you can't ban certain topics of discussion on an open posting internet discussion board. If you could, KPop threads wouldn't currently exist.

>>73927930
>because you can't ban certain topics of discussion
Who can't?

ugly, bad

>>73927212
How's your sister doing at school? She hasn't transferred had she?

>>73927944
>Who can't?
Anyone who isn't in control of it being an open posting board.

>>73927212
How's your mom doing, Matthew? Would be a shame if someone started callspamming her again.

>>73928006
So the people in control can. Maybe this poll will convince them.

>>73927930
>>73928006
topics can be banned if they cause enough long-term distress to the board. with the ceaseless shitposting that grimesfags incite, i wouldn't be surprised if grimesposting was banned. at the very least cracked down on much harder. the same shit happened with my little pony

>>73928021
Looks like the Grimes fans are mad.

Cry more, pussy.

>>73927909
he could vote multiple times through vpn like that dumb op who ruined another poll few days ago

>>73927212
just started to seriously listen grimes like a week ago so i started with art angels. really like california, scream, and flesh without blood. Where should i go next?

>>73928485
hello mont

>>73928118
>implying you could stop people from grimesposting
>implying you're not grimesposting right now instead doing something productive, you toxic wanker

>>73928491
itunes store
bring your life saving and knock twice

>>73928491
visions is the next logical step. her older stuff is less accessible though. still catchy.

>>73928490
>believing the one grimesfag pretending to be OP
>implying >>73927935 isn't just as trustworthy
Please kill yourself

>>73928491
Listen to Halfaxa and Geidi Primes, they're her only good albums

>>73928511
>implying you could stop people from grimesposting
We can't, but Hiro/other admins can.
>implying you're not grimesposting right now
Really, we're metaposting, since the connection to Grimes is thin at best. Even if we are, we aren't praising her and invading threads that we don't belong in
>you toxic wanker
Ooh, classy

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She's a bit of both

grimes bad

>>73928511
>implying you could stop people from grimesposting
that's not even what i implied though. work on that reading comprehension bud.
>implying you're not grimesposting right now
i never implied that either..

why does montie hate me?

>>73928571
hi grimes, you dropped in quality

>>73928578
i did it out of spite

>>73928530
>Listen to Halfaxa and Geidi Primes, they're her only good albums
shit advice. that anon already told you he enjoys art angels. visions is closer to art angels than halfaxa and geidi primes.
>>implying >>73927935 isn't just as trustworthy
i didn't imply anything, prick. if that prankster (i bet $1000 it was you) really vpn voted then the poll is null and void. but i think it's just your campaign of spreading lies and bullshit. literally fuck off.

>>73928597
So when a grimesfag clearly pretends to be an OP, you believe them, but when someone else does the same thing, you think they're spreading lies. That is the DEFINITION of a double standard my friend.

>>73928637
verse chorus verse

>>73928642
Are you discussing one of the original names for In Utero? Very good album.

>>73928658
agree

Fucking talentless goblin whore

>>73928118
>topics can be banned if they cause enough long-term distress to the board
They effectively can't, because there are no special permissions needed in order for someone to post here (thus making it anonymous.) And let me tell you - the idea that the existence of one unassuming Canadian woman is enough to dismantle 4chan's anonymous culture (what would happen if site registration is required) speaks to how insecure people like you really are.

>the same shit happened with my little pony
MLP has an ENTIRE BOARD dedicated to it. If that's the direction you think /grimes/ should go, email the mods about it - stop shitting up threads on /mu with your complaints. It's against site-wide rules.

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>>73928485
>

>>73928485
You never did tell me what she's studying. Is it education? Because you know the teacher's college there is to die for. The music school too...

>>73928922
>They effectively can't, because there are no special permissions needed in order for someone to post here (thus making it anonymous.)
what the fuck are you talking about

>the idea that the existence of one unassuming Canadian woman is enough to dismantle 4chan's anonymous culture (what would happen if site registration is required)
what the fuck does this have to do with site registration

>MLP has an ENTIRE BOARD dedicated to it
yes, because of how much the ponyfags shat up the other boards

shes lit

>>73928939
God, what an old picture

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>>73928491
Depends on your tastes desu. All of her stuff is lauded almost universally as good by people who ALREADY like the kind of music that it is. Go in the order that makes the most sense to YOU.

>>73928637
what part of
>if that prankster (i bet $1000 it was you) really vpn voted then the poll is null and void
didn't you understand, dumbass?
leaving that aside, yes, you're a complete moron who's spreading lies and bullshit. god knows how much crap you posted so far but it must be a lot. aren't you ashamed of yourself you demented fuck?

>>73928551
>Really, we're metaposting, since the connection to Grimes is thin at best.
That's off-topic posting bro. Which is against site rules.

>>73929124
Do you think that the pro-Grimes votes are VPN or not? You said that you think that the claim that the votes are faked is a "campaign of spreading lies and bullshit", correct? However, one post earlier, you said that the other poll had an OP that "vote[d] multiple times through VPN". However, in that poll, the only person claiming that a VPN was in use was one person (without OP's trip) posting a screenshot. Now, why are you willing to suspend your skepticism when it comes to results of Grimes not being popular, but you (reasonably) think it isn't true when the faked votes are pro-Grimes. Do you obsess this much over Grimes?

>>73929191
Since we are discussing the fans of an artist (artist discussion is allowed), we are still discussing music and topics related to music, as thin as that distinction is.

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>>73927212
>The debate ends this week.
I think I split my pants.

>>73929209
the other poll was really fake. over 100 negative votes in half an hour, that's highly suspicious. this one could be fake too. i don't trust any poll posted on /mu/. there are people voting multiple times.

>>73929243
>we are still discussing music and topics related to mus
If it's IN a thread, and isn't directly related to the topic of the OP, it's off-topic and violates site-wide rules.

>>73927212
Cute shit music

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>>73927212
I haven't heard her music, but she really isn't a looker, atleast not in that photo.

>>73929312
This thread is about people's thoughts on Grimes, I am discussing other people's thoughts on Grimes

>>73929297
>that's highly suspicious
lolno, it was posted during the most active part of the week for /mu/ during summer. That just isn't true. And does that mean that you don't think that the pro-Grimes VPN poster is faking now, did you change your mind?

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>>73929348
montie the prick posted an ugly picture intentionally. he hates her.
she actually looks like this these days.

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>>73929348
>she really isn't a looker

>>73929399
>montie the prick posted an ugly picture intentionally
and you posted an attractive picture intentionally, so?

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>atleast not in that photo
Can you actually read? Or does your ass hurt to much?

>>73929430
She's clearly something between that ugly photo and that obviously shopped photo

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>>73929433
she changed her look many times. that grimes from the op doesn't exist anymore. that look is not relevant anymore.
>and you posted an attractive picture intentionally, so?
because unlike you, i try to put the artists in a positive light. i'm biased and i don't care.

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>>73929538
you btfo yourself. if you imply she's ugly then it means people like her because of her music. nobody would like her if she were both ugly and untalented.

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>>73929538
>obviously shopped photo
Here's a high res.

>>73929350
>I am discussing other people's thoughts on Grimes
What are YOUR thoughts on Grimes?

>was posted during the most active part of the week
All polls linked to on /mu are subject to the whims of the most determined VPN-er online atm. Polls here mean nothing because this place is anonymous.

>>73929585
looks like a corpse

>>73929835
I CAN WALK WITH THE ANIMALS TALK WITH THE ANIMALS

>>73929541
she's got that courtney love plastic surgery face going on

she used to be so damn cute too, when she knew how to make music

>>73929764
>What are YOUR thoughts on Grimes?
see >>73927221

>subject to the whims of the most determined VPN-er online atm
Give me a reason to believe that
1. Anyone is willing to do that to a poll about an artist they dislike
2. Grimes is really well-loved even though only 25 voters were pro-Grimes
3. That the poll was fudged in the first place
4. Any more people like Grimes then what was shown in the poll

>>73930110
i have not one idea on how these posts are deliberate and shill. it does not read that way at all

>>73930192
what

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>>73929994
>she's got that courtney love plastic surgery face
It's called white-face, anon.

Why? Beats me. Although harlots where known as "painted ladies" back in the day...

i wish her music meant something like it used to

>>73930110
>Give me a reason to believe that
1. (Yous)
2. These threads exist
3. I was involved
4. See #3

>>73930269
>(You)s
not enough of a reason
>these thread exists
this thread: 25 posters
most other threads: 40-50 posters, around half of which are haters
>I was involved
I don't believe you nor do you have a motive to do so

ugly and baaaaaaaaad

>>73930219
It grims

>>73930300
>not enough of a reason
Are you new here?

>most other threads: 40-50 posters
Most other GENERALS 40-50 posters. Not jsut regular threads. Grimes generals usually top out anywhere between 30 and 65. And keep in mind, this is going on 2 years since she last released an album.

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>>73930300
>not enough of a reason
>implying faggots won't argue just for the (YOU)'s
Holy shit, you haven't been here long have you?

>>73930368
>top out between 30 and 65
Both very low for a fan base
>and keep in mind, this is going on 2 years since she last released an album
Why does that mean that the people who love her would stop loving her? She doesn't have a very loyal fan base
>>73930402
>>73930368
I have a hard time people would work that much just to convince people that Grimes isn't well liked, which doesn't matter as to her quality. I'm probably wrong though

>>73930333
She's just a little stupid

>>73930475
*a very loyal fanbase, apparently

>>73930524
Just grimes being grimes

>>73930110
1. of course. it's not a mere dislike, it's hatred. they wanted negative votes and they got them by any means necessary.
2. only 25 voted. those who vote are always less numerous than the total fanbase here.
3. even the op posted about his dirty tricks.
4. see number 2.

maybe you're right: a large part of /mu/ hate her. because of frustration, desperation, stupidity and envy.

>>73930475
>She doesn't have a very loyal fan base
>he believes that
the grimes-fans are the most loyal fans.

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>mfw /mu/ comments on the attractiveness of people who aren't land whales
>implying /mu/ would be happy to have anyone that actually cared about them emotionally and romantically
you're all just very very sad.

>>73930475
>Both very low for a fan base
Fanbase of an ENTIRE genre? I agree. The thing is, Grimes isn't an entire genre - at least not yet. In anything her music is a proto-genre...
>Why does that mean that the people who love her would stop loving her?
It doesn't. It means that people who love her MUSIC aren't as likely to post new things about it since they've already done that.

>I have a hard time people would work that much just to convince people that Grimes isn't well liked
It takes virtually no effort (less than forming a coherent sentence in one of these posts) to troll an internet poll like that. And the guaranteed reward is (You)s. So...

>>73930724
Then why is the fact that she hasn't released music contributing to a lack of a turnout? Why'd they drop her like that?

>>73930694
>it's not a mere dislike, it's hatred
I think you're believing the trolls more then you should
>those who vote are always less numerous then the total fanbase
Proof?
>even the op posted about his dirty tricks
First off, that anon could not prove he was OP, and second off the fake OP continued to make claims after the real one adopted a trip. It was clear damage control

>because of frustration
That doesn't make any sense
>desperation
See above
>stupidity
So you think it's stupid for someone to dislike an artist you like? That's pretty pathetic
>envy
If you really think that Grimes' level of success is enough for envy, then why do the same people also overwhelmingly like Björk? She's far more successful.

>>73930787
>genre
What are you talking about
>it means they're less likely to post new things about it
In the same way as you say, it takes less effort than to post to vote in that poll
>and the guaranteed result is (You)s
That's not guaranteed at all. How would fudging the results get (You)s? You don't have to post to do it. In fact, the most (You)s in the poll thread were given to the people crying about how they thought it was faked

>>73930888
>Then why is the fact that she hasn't released music contributing to a lack of a turnout? Why'd they drop her like that?
they just took a break from posting. it doesn't mean they don't listen to her music anymore. you'll see a big spike of activity once she releases a new album. she will gain new fans too.

>>73930888
>Then why is the fact that she hasn't released music contributing to a lack of a turnout?
Probably because they have lives outside of 4chan.

>>73930938
Fine, I guess we'll both find out when that new album does drop, since there's no way to prove it

>>73930954
>Grimes fans
>lives outside of 4chan
Whatever you say man

>>73930888
>If you really think that Grimes' level of success is enough for envy, then why do the same people also overwhelmingly like Björk?
are you sure the same people hating grimes are also bjork fans? could you prove that?

>>73931017
>Grimes fans
>lives outside of 4chan
actually yes. you haters on the other hand...

>>73931048
Not conclusively, but most people complaining about grimesposters complain that their Björk threads are invaded, many are angered by the comparison of Grimes to Björk, and many also say stuff like "Björk is far superior". Even if Björk isn't a good example, then why would they like any successful artist?

>>73931071
>actually yes
I don't believe you, especially because I've seen a lot of grimesposters throughout the entire day
>you haters
I don't hate all of Grimes music nor do I hate her as a person

>>73930888
>It was clear damage control
On both sides, since everyone here is anonymous. Nothing here can be proved.

>then why do the same people also overwhelmingly like Björk?
Probably because they're waifufags, and Bjork is a very good target for that sort of thing. Grimes, less so.

>What are you talking about
All the other generals regularly posted on /mu are devoted to entire genres of music. Grimes generals are (afaik) the only exception to that. The only threads on here that routinely get 30+ posters other than generals are artist/instrument/whatever threads that tie into some sort of current eventlike a new album/artist death/concert/festival/award show happening etc - AND threads about Grimes.

Is this Good? Bad? Beats me. That's just the way things are desu.

>>73931017
>Fine, I guess we'll both find out
Different anon. Yeah, imo it's gonna be very interesting to see what happens when her next one comes out. Especially if it's more experimental in the same vein as her earlier albums - which currently seems to be the direction she's going in.

>>73931157
>on both sides
No. There was clearly someone pretending to be OP, either for (You)s or so he could defend his waifu

>probably because they're waifufags
All of them decry waifufaggotry, and Björk is not as attractive nowadays. Besides, you're missing the point of my post. If they're envious of Grimes, why would they not be envious of every popular artist, all of which are more successful then Grimes?

>all the other generals regularly posted on /mu are devoted to entire genres
Ok....
>Grimes generals are the only exception
Ok
>The only threads on here that routinely get 30+ posters
Every single other thread with more than 100 posts have more than 40 posters

>>73931260
>All of them decry waifufaggotry, and Björk is not as attractive nowadays.
that's why they post older pictures. they're still waifufags. bjorkthreads have way more pictures than grimethreads.

>>73931209
i bet her next album will be less poppy than art angels. i enjoyed all her music so far, so i think i'll enjoy her next one too.

>>73931260
>If they're envious of Grimes, why would they not be envious of every popular artist, all of which are more successful then Grimes?
not that anon. they're envious because she pissed them off indirectly. she seems like a fragile girl who is sjw (not true btw), libertarian, has a weird look and personality and managed to succeed in this wild music industry. they wanted her to fail, but she never gave up. they also hate her because she does all her work by herself without needing males and because she does whatever she wants to. it's more like a political issue. they can't stand independent and successful women. it puts them in a very bad light.

>>73927257
bump

>>73931260
>There was clearly someone pretending to be OP
And since there is no way to know who that was (since this is an anonymous board) it's all just damage control/trolling for (You)s.

>All of them decry waifufaggotry
Have you looked at what happens in Bjork threads?

>Björk is not as attractive nowadays
Hence why - apart from I'd say the 5-7 genuine Bjork fans who routinely post on /mu - the vast majority of posts in those threads aren't about what she's like right now. Bjork is an old artist irl.

>If they're envious of Grimes, why would they not be envious of every popular artist
They would be (and are.) Which is why if/whenever such artists start getting discussed here at any length, they start coming out of the woodwork to troll (e.g. for the most recent example see the reaction against Lorde-posting post Melodrama.)

>Every single other thread with more than 100 posts have more than 40 posters
The only threads on here that routinely get 30+ posters OTHER THAN GENERALS (which include threads like >>73914277 since it is about a general topic) are artist/instrument/whatever threads that tie into some sort of current event like a new album/artist death/concert/festival/award show happening etc - AND threads about Grimes. Case in point - this thread (102 posts, 28 posters) if just two more people show up.

>>73931414
I'm honestly not sure what she'd have to release in order for me to truly not like it (I've liked everything she's done so far, even left-field one-off stuff like Medieval Warfare.) But based on what she's been saying recently, I really don't think I need to worry about finding out.

>>73931751
her production will remain solid or will even improve. that's a given. assuming she will not lose her mojo, her songwriting will remain solid too. her vocals still have room to improve even if they're already very diverse and rich.
her next album will come in 2018, that's the most plausible release year. will be another masterpiece? we'll see.

It's like this:
She has skill and talent, but writes bad music...or I suppose has really poor taste and just writes what she thinks is good but is really mediocre.

And she's more or less cute, but has some features vwhich don't always photo well.

Ps Bjork gets my dick so hard.

>>73931694
>(which include threads like >>73914277 → # since it is about a general topic)
Not what a general is

>>73928959
>to die for
>...
Trying far too hard lad

>>73932030
>She has skill and talent, but writes bad music
Disagree. Her music is tremendously good. It's catchy as fuck, emotional, has staying power and it sounds exciting. What's not to like about her music?

>>73932030
>I suppose has really poor taste and just writes what she thinks is good but is really mediocre.
Really mediocre to you. Of course she writes what she thinks is good: she's the artist, she's in charge of her art. She doesn't exist to pander to your dubious taste. She offers her art and it's your choice if you like it or not.

>>73931694
>And since there is no way who that was
Do you really think it was OP? I'm 100% certain it wasn't

>Have you seen what happens in bjork threads?
The most recent one involved no posting pictures of her, and I haven't seen many since I started posting here half a year ago

>the 5-7 genuine Björk fans
I can assure you with no hesitation that more people like Björk here then Grimes

>They would be (and are.)
Prove it. There are contrarians for every artist but I doubt that all of them are the same as the people that don't like Grimes

>artist/instrument/whatever threads
That makes up almost every thread we've ever had on this board

>>73932405
>your dubious taste
What's dubious about his taste?

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>>73927257
>Ban Grimes Discussion on /mu/

>>73932030
>but writes bad music...
Virtually no one agrees with you desu - including me. In any case, what music are you comparing it to? What does 'good' music sound like to you, because clearly we've got radically different definitions of 'good' going on here.

>>73932261
>Not what a general is
What are they for, oh person who apparently doesn't know what words mean?

>>73932337
>Trying far too hard
My fellow graduates with teaching jobs would say otherwise desu. Especially the music ed. ones. M-------- -----e University has an excellent game on that front right now.

>>73932423
>I can assure you with no hesitation that more people like Björk here then Grimes
then why there's so little bjorkposting?

>>73932423
>I'm 100% certain
On an anonymous internet messaging board? Top kek.

>The most recent one
You mean this one? https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/73377401/ Which, on top of being only 21 posts long, features UNDELETED posts like this https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/73377401/#73378113 and this https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/73377401/#73378166 ?

>I can assure you with no hesitation
On an anonymous internet messaging board? Top kek. Which isn't to say that I think there aren't ANY. Just not more than enough to keep a thead alive beyond 21 posts on an OFF day.

>There are contrarians for every artist but I doubt that all of them are the same
Trolls aren't selective about subject matter. See https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/73337506

>That makes up almost every thread we've ever had on this board
are artist/instrument/whatever threads THAT TIE INTO some sort of current event like a new album/artist death/concert/festival/award show happening etc - AND threads about Grimes.
What is it with you and not reading up to the ends of sentences?

>What's dubious about his taste?
What does it consist of? Which other artists' music is Grimes music inferior to, in this anon's opinion?

>>73927212
Grimes is good. I hope that helps.

>>73933932
Pajeet shilling Grimes HARD in this thread. Hope you get a bonus for this.