/prod/ Music Production

Can someone critique my rapping voice.

I'm trying to ease away from the production aspect of hip hop and I need input to grow

yes this beat is trash. I made it in like 2 seconds because the focus is my voice.

I'm gonna start off saying I don't like how it sounds, but I want to know what I'm doing wrong.

https://clyp.it/40l4iwhg

>>73926586
Coming from a rapper that had some serious issues with his own voice at the beginning, as blatantly easy as the solution sounds, keep rapping and keep recording, it's the only way to train your voice and work on your articulation.

You have a slight lateral lisp, which makes the "s" sounds feel a bit wet, but as time goes on that can be worked on.

And of course, bring some confidence to the mic, make sure that only you can notice the insecurities in your own voice.

>>73926748
>slight lateral lisp
you know any way I can fix this? Any techniques? It used to be worse when I was younger. I've been working to fix this for a while.

>>73926803
Drink water so your mouth waters less, before recording you can also straight up wipe the front of your teeth where the moisture accumulates, it's weird but who cares if it helps.

Also as my acting teacher instilled in me from a younger age where my lisp was quite intense, open your mouth and articulate as much as you can while speaking and in this case rapping. Especially if you're not going for a Future mumble.

And the last thing is not really recommended, but I smoke so my mouth is generally drier than when I don't.

But don't do that tho.

Anybody have any tips on recording electric guitar/ any decent tutorial videos. Best mics to get?

I want to get a big sound like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bteY_fs3Y18

>>73926927
Thanks for your response. I'm gonna work on this. Good luck and wish me luck

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>>73926927
>>73927174
ok just tried it and it's way easier to rap and talk with a dry mouth, and I'm kinda pissed

you mean all my life I've been stumbling over my words and sounding retarded and shit all because I had too much damn spit in my mouth? I don't know what to say other than that I'm mad at myself that this had to be pointed out to me by a stranger on the internet. Thanks anon.

>>73927500
>>73927174
Np, the topic itself depressed the shit out of me for months, so I'm glad I can help.

https://clyp.it/0ojmuzu5

opinions/feedback on this. Disregard the giant silent part at the end.

>>73926586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx1J2CzNnS8

you saying the beat sounds like that or I sound like one of these niggas?

>>73928930
>>73928757

Scoring this indie feature, would like some thoughts on the style. It's a guerilla film.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B694MmjL8g5xSGQwYTZDS09CczQ

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>>73926451
/prod/ senpai, can you help me analyze this song? https://youtu.be/qbUD0enpCpk

I've transcribed it pretty accurately I think so I'll give my interpretation, but as far as a harmonic analysis goes, I'm confused af. Here's my crack at it https://clyp.it/qghcsxhs . I can upload the midi to mega or something if anyone is interested.

I think that this track is in E major. The intro of the track (first 30 seconds or so) is just an Esus2. Then those Rhodes chords come in on the off beats and start doing some weird shit.

Trying my best to analyze the first three chords (1st level analysis) I get: Bsus2/A - Badd11/Gb - Gb7/E
I'm guessing there is a simpler way to look at this...

So, in terms of function within the E major scale, these chords would be: V - V - ii.

Maybe these chords are non-functional? It does have kind of a floaty feeling.

If I consider the bass as the root note of each chord, the function of these three chords would be: IV - ii - I (I've never seen that progression before).

All of this happens while that Esus2 keeps playing it's rhythmic pattern.

As the track progresses, the chords actually drop away and we're left with only the pentatonic bleeps and whatnot. Then, a different bass pattern plays (Gb-A-Db-E) which seems to modulate everything to Gb minor!! Gb is the 2nd note in the key of E major so this isn't the relative minor.

Sorry for the rambling. I'm sure that I'm trying too hard but meh. I like this guy's sound and I'm curious how it "works". Any insight would be helpful.

https://clyp.it/ye5krxah
critique me, give me direction

>>73929600
>https://clyp.it/ye5krxah
arrangement's boring

I saw this video on /r/futurebeatproducers a little while ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GazXlEQhi60&feature=youtu.be

currently moving around and cleaning out my library for a fresh start, maybe some of you might find it helpful as well

https://soundcloud.com/basedlordjorffy

Does my beats sounds good? Also follow me.

>>73930623
Fuck off you nigger faggot

What do you guys think of this?

https://clyp.it/b5imskf3

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Which DAW is best equipped for microtonality? Particularly programming the keyboard to whatever you want?

>>73929054
>chords
lmao r u foreal bruh

>tfw 1tb library full of sample compilations
>still can't make the sound I want
I just don't wanna admit to myself that I'm the problem...

>>73931419
so what's holding you back then

plz be gentle
https://clyp.it/boffljsj

>>73931560
I SUCK dude
I fucking SUCK

>>73930893
Lol wat?

>>73931560
himself

>>73931563
high pass your delay returns....
or use a delay if that's actually an autopan

boost both the dry and decay amounts on that reverbed synth.... maybe add a bit of attack/lower decay to add definition

>>73931588
so get off 4chan and work for it fucker

>>73931419
>sample compilations
wtf r u talking about

>>73931696
thanks big homie

>>73931706
... it's a collection of samples

that's what compile means lol

https://clyp.it/ww2by032
https://clyp.it/ndrazjt4
https://clyp.it/wowghncn
https://clyp.it/0o5nzqq2

So how do I get into making my own rad patches with Omnisphere?
Anyone here mastered that shit or are you just as lost as I?

>>73931923
plz critique
last one is supposed to sound rough around the edges

>>73931923
>https://clyp.it/0o5nzqq2

so you like death grips

>>73932028
that's why I said it was the worst one, I like the middle tho

>>73932028
>>73931923
>>73932056

ngl i just skimmed through all of them (they need somebody rapping obviously)

defs interesting and better than 99% of /prod/ but i think you already know that

only thing i can realllly say without hearing a completed song is that i think you should be using stronger drums and differentiate yourself more- it's definitely dirtier and i think overall your sound is heavier and could benefit by using the appropriate drum samples...

the constant 808's on something like nldw works because of how sparse it is... your songs are not

>>73932114
Thank you for the huge compliment. I appreciate it greatly
What should I use for drum samples? Some of them are 909s which I feel are more powerful.

>>73932210
i'm partial to not using the standard drum machine samples, especially for this kind of stuff

i say mangle your own from something else... idk what you tend to use so

>>73932279
thanks for the advice

When you finally come up with a bridge and key change for your two chord song. FeelsGoodMan

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I bought a microphone and thought it'd come with pic related. It didn't and I can't find the motherfucker anywhere.
What can I do? I wanna start recording asap I can't afford an interface yet.

>>73932539
>What can I do?
nothing because you need a usb mic or an interface

if you can't afford it just suck it up and use your laptop mic

>>73932539
just buy a cheap "interface" to connect it to your pc
nothing with a lot of power, just a hub to connect your instruments/mic to that will take off the latency a bit
will cost 20 bucks or something like that

Are there any good songs that use synths instead of guitars for a shoegaze-type effect?
I keep trying but it just makes it sound awful

i just made this thing lol , what u think guys ?

https://clyp.it/cx20o5ac

>>73933068
>https://clyp.it/cx20o5ac
It's meh

What is the synth instrument at 0:42 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt5RuhhIUFs called? How do I recreate it if my DAW doesn't include it?

>>73933464
its just one note in a high octave put on it some chorus and dimenson expander and it might sound like it

>>73933068
it's an exceptionally mediocre hip-hop beat
one you would find on the tape of a promising but not yet fully realised German underground rapper ~8 years ago

>>73933068
very bad

>>73933068
it does not need to be that bright
.________________.

the same idea by somebody with skill would be passible

>>73933584
>>73933617
okay guys thanks for the arguments too , though i disagree i think you might be just some lazy critics

>>73933782
y i think i puted so much white noise on the synths

>>73933795
Na its p trash

>>73931923
>https://clyp.it/ww2by032
the high-end clicking and popping hurt my ears.

>https://clyp.it/ndrazjt4
super high-pitched noise at 0:19 hurt my ears.

>https://clyp.it/wowghncn
the drums just sound a little random, there's no pattern or anything I can really latch onto.

>https://clyp.it/0o5nzqq2
I like that sound in the intro. then the synths hurt my ears.

>>73933988
well i said i disagree , whats your problem ? quit being a baby

>>73933795
>though i disagree i think you might be just some lazy critics
hmm is that so? Because whether I'm an experienced or inexperienced producer myself, you just dismissed a free, unsolicited opinion on your music because you didn't like it. You as a musician do not get to pick and choose who likes your music and who doesn't. You need to wrap your mind around that before you can understand how to begin to operate an equalizer or compressor, clearly.

>>73933068
>https://clyp.it/cx20o5ac
I think this is p good actually. Better than a lot of stuff that gets posted here. I dunno about the different bass(?) synths panned hard left and right.

You could also do some of those selective track solo-ing/ muting tricks to make things lock together a little more. A tad generic but not bad, really.

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pair of these at the shop for $150 used
can't find much info on them out there but i gotta get some speakers
anyone have any experience here?

>>73930825
Bump

>>73926451
human music, i don't know what to do with this project, or how to end it
https://clyp.it/i3flxvip

>>73933464
Its a vintage orchestra impact sample! Very common in eurobeat.

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>>73934075
shut. the fuck. upppp

>>73934053
thats why i said i disagree, i dont care if you like it or not, saying someone music is trash is so retrograde, we are no going anywhere whit being a hater, be a little more constructive if your going to criticize for the humanity's sake

>>73934172
>be a little more constructive if your going to criticize for the humanity's sake
>a little more constructive
>if your going to criticize
crit·i·cize (v.)
1. Indicate the faults of (someone or something) in a disapproving way.

>>73934205
criticize to improve it , saying something is "trash" is just retrograde and not gonna change anything

>>73934243
listen nigger I am not that other dude I was the one who just said it was "very bad" because it is, and to have to deconstruct everything wrong with the mixing, chords, melody, and yes, presets, would be like trying to salvage an already sunken ship with a cork

>>73934327
no presets

>>73934143
I dun geddit

>>73934243
I used to be nice. But now i agree with the dicks. We have to become kind of masochists and realize that only a small fraction of 1 percent of anything posted in these threads is any good. Diamonds are formed in the harshest of conditions. And its also more fun to point out other's flaws

>>73934354
that's surprising, the lead in the second half scarily resembles a nexus preset. Regardless, the whole thing still sounds like it was mixed on dollar store earbuds

>>73934114
are you that guy who used to posts that navi song...?

why don't you ever add a beat to this? or something... it never takes form...

>>73934395
>>73934327
>>73934243
>>73934205
>>73934172
stop shitting up the threads you both don't stand to gain anything from this argument

so I just tried to do my own "against the clock" thing but I knew (because I've tried before) that I wouldn't come up with anything in 10 mins so I set a timer for 15 and this is what I got

https://clyp.it/ckmm1wju

I didn't film it either sry

>>73934456
yeah dude dont expect so much im not pro producer and did it in 2 hours, but im practicing

>>73934500
This is nice actually. I like how crisp it sounds.

>>73934457
navi song?
as to why it never takes form, idk what it's supposed to be, i don't have a way to transfer guitar to my computer to the songs i hear never really happen. i need a band.

>>73934500
Easy on the limiter there bucko. Other than that I think it's pretty sick tbqh

>>73934500
you should have prepared all your samples, loops, melodies, ect in advance if you wanted to replicate the real against the clock experience lmao.

>>73934720
for real... presets are fine but premade melodies are bullshit

>>73934608
>i need a band.
i feel you. i want to do some industrial punk metal shit but i'm making techno and idm because i have no friends and nobody will ever rap over the hip hop shit i make :^(

>>73930863
ah come on guys

>>73934811
I dunno man, any sampler should be able to pitch things up and down slightly.

Midi data is what it is, so you can't really alter your input device

>>73930863
microtonality is a meme and you will never be KGATLW, happy?

>>73934811
i thought about answering but i'm ignorant

early thought: that's more to do with how you program synths and midi

i highly doubt anything is out there with a piano roll that you can program to go 10-50 cents apart or whatever, that sounds pretty ridiculous (as is microtonal music but whatever you want dude)

I don't want to hijack the thread but this is the only good microtonal music I've heard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZWr9ZLVE2s

>>73934898
I did it in ableton using this method but the problem is you still can only have 12 notes per octave

http://subaqueousmusic.com/sof/

>>73934811
reaper will let you do what you want

>>73935023
Yeah, I can see how the physical layout would be an issue, but that isn't really something that could be solved with software. I'd say just put stickers on every "tonic note" key.

desu I only use reason. I think the NNXT sampler would do a good job at this. This is what I would do.

1) load your selected sample to every key individually so that no matter which key you press, the same sound is heard.

2) start adjusting the pitch of the sample on each key in order.

>>73931419
I think you're getting hit by choice paralysis. Make something out of you hitting your desk or something, or make something with all one instrument.

Good enough is fine, you don't need to go for perfect. Just make something.

>>73934016
HAHAHAHAHAHA
In all honesty, why do treble sounds hurt your ears so much? Should you turn down your volume.

>>73936553
High end hurts everybody

use a reference mix noob

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Hey, /mu/

Do any of you enjoy this type of music? I don't know if there's listeners out there that would enjoy something like this. When I sit down to produce it just turns out like this. Is a sound like this worth releasing?

https://clyp.it/1bfacydt

>>73936988
that kind of sampling is gay as fuck imo but yes, there is an audience for everything

not so sure about that style of randomness, doesn't sound "focussed" enough

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>>73937037
It is a lot happening at once, I know. Takes a second listen to the samples to realize that they are in fact all on time.

Can I borrow your ears for one more?

https://clyp.it/rkltccgi

I have 3 songs for an EP, the first one I showed, this one, and 1 more in the works.

>>73927894
cool
although I know its supposed to be "dusty" it could use some cleaning up do that and its ready for some more production.
I like it

heres me
https://instaud.io/15Wu

So what is a good music making program for Windows? I've got one from a few years ago but I've never heard anyone mention it ever when discussing making music so I figure I should jump to something else to more easily find support.

>>73937420
i like cubase but youll get the most online support and tutorials using ableton live or fl studio

Can I have any feedback please? https://clyp.it/eoyctpfm

thx in advance <3

>>73937420
>music making
ableton

>>73937420
What program is it?

>>73937508
The reverb on the vocal sample is huge throughout the track. I'd consider tweaking the time on it at different points. Keep it big, but make it huge only at various points throughout for added effect.

That's a minor criticism, though. This track is good.

>>73937741
>https://clyp.it/cx20o5ac
Thank you for the critique

>>73937079
Okay first time was just a glance
Took a second listen on headphones and I still stand by the sampling thing- vidya seems like a gimmick. The exchange of samples just sounds random and pointless, it could be way, way more out there instead of just using a different hit. The chords should build some kind of tension in that initial bridge

I do like this second song a lot better. I feel like the beat should have a much heavier swing off the grid though, maybe a more constant shaker to accent that as well.

I don't mind listening to the third one if you want to post it, I'll come back to check tomorrow

>>73937121
Granular pitched down hihats? Or something metallic? I really like that sound, what is it?

>>73937508
Pad that comes in on the left is too loud

I hate that main synth in the first part lol. Could have easily been something plucky and pleasant sounding

Bass that comes in at 1:42 could use heavier side chaining, reminds me of flying lotus

>>73937765
>critique

Thanks for the perspective my friend. Out of curiosity who are some of your fav artists rn?

who /lmms/ here?

>>73936988
>https://clyp.it/1bfacydt
yes man your game is gooood, but imo you need to work on the "vibe" and structure, like this track feels to me like a really really good idea that would be really rounded if you added a dramatic arc to it

and the vibe thing, i feel some sounds could use some more design

>https://clyp.it/rkltccgi
you already posted this didn't you, i remember the thing at 0:22

this is better than the first in terms of vibe/structure, and i liked it too, but i really would want the rythmic section to be less sparse, like the first one

first one kind made me think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPgHA8EW6Go
and this

i would also tell you to get a mic and make your samples yourself i think it would make your music jump a whole level in terms of like emotional tone

https://clyp.it/z5ld2lmx

Does this work on your system? Need some ears

>>73937844
lol get a real OS

>>73937862
get some real freedoms

>>73937878
just keep the wifi off

>>73937897
piracy =/= freedom

>>73937908
if you keep the wifi off there's no snooping or actualizations


i know, intel chips and shit

>>73937927
intel chips is a side issue, don't turn me into a meme

it's not freedom if you can't easily see what it does and change it, you are vendor locked to whatever company produces your DAW

>>73927500
just make sure u always smoke a wood before u rap

>>73937963
yeah but you can run a real one

>>73937848
can you explain the dramatic arc more to me?
the synths are super simple, i kind of wanted more of a basic square 8bit sound to them. Any other sounds that need more design? I feel like I've been trying to make this track "work" for so long and it does to me, but that's because I made it, I just want it to work for others as well. How can I create a better vibe and how am I currently throwing it off? I just want to release soon so I am loving the feedback.

>>73937765
cool, thanks for the feedback. Can you elaborate on "it could be way, way more out there instead of just using a different hit." The second track is a lot more tame. I tried some off the grid stuff, but it didnt really fit the image in my head. I don't mean to come off as lazy, but I really am focusing on a production that has just what it needs, and nothing more - at least just for this project. If that makes sense? The 3rd one isn't anywhere close to being done, just an idea, but I have a webm of it.

>>73937996
What makes a DAW real?

>>73937844
>>73937878
use ardour it is better

>>73938001
>dramatic arc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dramatic_structure
doesn't have to be a pyramid doe, imo rise, climax, fall, pseudo-rise, anti-climax, rise, rise, rise, super-climax, gentle fall, is best form

> i kind of wanted more of a basic square 8bit sound to them.
You can achieve a more textural version of them, try layering squares from different sources and maybe some strategic noise, i would dirty them a bit too, but thats just me

>I feel like I've been trying to make this track "work" for so long and it does to me, but that's because I made it, I just want it to work for others as well.
Besides sytnh, i think its ok, i wouldn't obsess over it just keep it in mind for future work

>How can I create a better vibe and how am I currently throwing it off?
I think getting a mic and self sampling would give you the edge, you can then layer them with other shit if it needs reinforcement, but it will make it so its YOUR sounds and the vibe will come off of your self naturally via unconscious selection

>>73938164
I really appreciate this feedback. A lot of the samples are my own recordings, the intro percussive sounds and whatnot are sound bytes I created in school with some friends and the video game noises are resampled from my N64 and SNES along with other bleeps and boops in there. I will work on the synths for sure, and try layering a few different squares. That formula seems like the standard pop song formula (not meant in an insulting way at all) intro, v1,pre chorus, chorus, reintro, v2, pre chorus, chorus x2, bridge, chorus, outro. Which would be neat but I found it hard trying to push this song in that direction. I do see what your saying though. It's kind of an intro, chorus, break, back into chorus, outro kind of structure going on here. hmm.. maybe I gotta pluck at it a little bit more but i think you're right in saying just keep that in mind for future projects. I get so wrapped up I never release anything.

Any fags here own an ARP Odyssey or the module of it?
Should I get it?

>>73937963
>>73937927
What are you guys talking about...?

I'm getting hella noided

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>>73938314
>That formula seems like the standard pop song formula
>I do see what your saying though. It's kind of an intro, chorus, break, back into chorus, outro kind of structure going on here
Not necesarilly, pop formula is a very "physical" version of it, but like the point is a DRAMATIC arc, its supposed to structure the emotional journey, you could achieve the same with a looping synth line just by moving a filter, a wet knob for some kind of fx, and the decay/release knob

Like every sound, melody, phrase, is a movement in some direction or some sort of dance, and the whole song should be too

>>73938420
is a common /g/ meme that intel chips have 3g connectivity so even if you never plug your machine to the internet it can still communicate with intel and the nsa

>>73938463
i see what your saying, and i will make sure to apply that to future projects for sure if i cant make it fit into this current one. I will try what you said about adjusting parameters to the synths in the intro build to make it more fluid.

>>73938495
R- really? D:

Even if you tell me it's a meme with nothing to back it up i completely believe it now because that sounds probable

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>>73939003
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Eck_phreaking

nowhere to hide goy

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>>73938366
Not yet but I have a huge hardon for the White module version. I've got a feeling it might well be my first synth if I can ever get the money together to buy one

>>73939402
oooo as do I for the white.
Right now debating over getting it or the Moog Mother-32, same price. Just don't know which one would be a better buy.

Own a couple synths right now, but I want more.

Need some theory help

I have a chord progression that starts on i and goes to various places

Now the way I've constructed this so far it really, REALLY wants to resolve back to i at the end


But since I'm already starting on i and since I'm looping this progression, I'm getting 2 consecutive bars of i's (ending of the previous loop + start of the new loop)

how do I make this more interesting

>>73931419
I literally never finish anything.

>>73939455
well I just figured it out, replaced the first i with a III

>>73939431
I've never really liked Moog for no particular reason. I think what I'd really like is the MS20 module, but I can never decide what I'd buy. I just keep going round in circles.

>>73939976
I own the MS20 mini, and while I love it's semi-modular-ness, it's sound is kinda noisey.
I hear the module has a couple more tweaks on it.

My main turnoff of most Moogs is simply that it is expensive.
Would recommend the MS20 though, really cool thing to play around with for a first synth.

>>73930863
any. stop asking and learn how to midi.

>>73940009
I think I read somewhere that the ms20 module was not as noisy as the mini, it's a shame they didn't make it a touch smaller either so it'd fit in a 19" rack as that'd be real handy to get it off the desk as always desk space is in short supply. I'm sure I'd find somewhere for it though.

>>73932743
might need to pay a bit more than 20$ if you want something with XLR and possibly phantom power.

>>73936988
what is this? weeb trap?

>>73937420
ableton

>>73937973
niggos smoke woods before they do anything

>>73941619
>what is this? weeb trap?

Dunno, it's just a random song. Weeb trap... I did that title though.

>>73936988
>>73941847
it reminds me of that Shawn Wasabi guys shit.

that can be a good or bad thing depending on how much you like him or not.

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why do people still use hardware mixers? what is the benefit?

and how are they wired into the studio so that all the tracks are recorded separately in the daw?

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https://clyp.it/lsfbd2nu

hows this sounding so far lads? equalizing, tones, ambiences etc etc whatever
vocals are yet to be recorded

>>73942623
some of them have preamps or eq's that sound good. they can only be wired that way if they have enough outputs or usb connectivity that lets them act as an interface

>>73942623
same reason they still use pro-fools

>>73942623
I use one to record my little korg volca synths. ....I've been too lazy to actually record into my DAW tho.

As a typical bedroom producer, my interface only has one stereo input so no separate tracking. In my current setup, what I would do is build up a loop that I like, and then solo each track and record them separately. Kind of a hassle but meh.

I like my 4 track mixer (behringer xenyx). The EQ's sound nice and, I dunno, it's just nice physically manipulate knobs and stuff.

Semi-technical question:

If I had to make a saw wave by manually stacking sine waves at different frequencies, how would I set the volume of the individual waves?

Like if the first one is at 0 dB, how do I know the correct volume of the second, third, etc?

>>73943017
organ is too thin and with excessive upper mids
electric guitars and bass have a bit mushy low mids
bass could use more high mids to cut through more
too much room sound somewhere, its mudding the mix

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>>73943041
Ummm fourier series.... calculus... math.... uhhhhhhh.

>>73943017
Holy moly, professionalism in my /prod/?? Sounds good to my ears mane, all I can say.

>>73943217
thanks a lot anon!

>>73943082
did that, howse now

https://clyp.it/ukexj1ob

hey, i made a "house"-ish track, but i don't know the genre that well. looking for crits from people who do? and recs for the best in the minimal style? (PS its unmixed)

https://clyp.it/cgqxrltw

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Who /hardwaresynth/ here? Post what you've got

>pic related

>>73930893
Ah, I forget, niggers are too stupid to understand music, which is why to flock over to the simplest music genre.

>>73943619
just these guys. I've got the keys, bass, FM, sample, and beats (not getting much love since the sample). I kind of want the volca kick but can't really justify 160 bucks for a kick generator.

here are some example jams. Sorry about the low volume.
https://clyp.it/p1lx05g5
https://clyp.it/0awtzzwu
https://clyp.it/th4znct5
https://clyp.it/lk5ivnvk

I find that I always come up with way better musical ideas with these little boxes compared to sitting down to my DAW.

If you like the jams, let me know... I have so many more just sitting here and I dunno what to do with them. I consider them like a musical diary of sorts.

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>>73943856
forgot pic, though I'm sure everyone is familiar with the volcas. inb4 too poor for AIRA's or roland's new boutique line.

Also forgot to mention I use the korg kaos pad mini for FX. Yeah, I'm a total fanboy.

>>73943856
fix the volume instead of saying sorry for it, im not fucking with my volume to listen to your demos

>>73943957
ok then, I'm not forcing you to listen to them.

>>73943856
sounds good desu. I wish I had some finished tracks to post, but I'm just starting to really record again after a year of writer's block. Hopefully I'll be posting some finished stuff on here in the near future.

I do have a demo for a song I'm working on, but I have to change it up and I'm not quite sure how.

https://clyp.it/5wtm3iyw

>>73944143
cool, I like it so far. Was that made using this? >>73943619

All of my hardware jams are basically just one pattern/ chord progression repeated ad nauseum, so the only advice I could give is when in doubt, repeat :P

hey /prod/ friends i'm dropping an ep early next month and this is one of the potential singles. I'm about 40% done with it. still gotta fix some of the drum processing and kick.

I create and mix with headphones, so if someone with some good external monitors tell me how the levels are on this thing?

https://clyp.it/0gopxrzi

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>>73943619
I've got a couple of hardware samplers (EMU's) a Volca sample and Volca bass

>>73944260
most of the pads and stuff are from the jx-3p. The e-piano is from my yamaha keyboard, and there's also some softsynths from my daw.

I feel like the changes between sections are kind of abrupt, but I think I want to bookend the song with the beginning parts after extending that hip-hop section

>>73943459
now its LOUD!
https://clyp.it/yooewtpj

>>73944143
I like this! If I were you, I'd automate a filter sweep or gate a vinyl soundbed to go along with the sample. I think it'll give it a lil more nuance and attract the ear better. Try creating a reverse FX before the electric piano comes it. It'll give it a more seamless transition.

>>73943856
Ditch the first, third and fourth one.
Slow the BPM of the 2nd one a bit and you'll get a nicer groove.

>>73943591
You've selected great sounds, but the problem imo is the arrangement. Introduce the elec. piano sound earlier. try putting things in different places.

>>73943856
You should perform with this stuff

>>73944446
all of my jams are just hardware improvisation. I can't change anything lol.

>>73944291
I really like this so far. I could definitely see it in my study playlist. Also headphone-only master race here so can't comment in that regard.

>>73944475
Thanks! Like I said I've got a ton more. I've considered setting up a youtube channel or something.

>>73944446
reverse fx noted. thanks meng. I'm also going to transfer most of my songs to cassette once they're finished and then record them back into my DAW to give them some flavor

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here's some more stuff that nobody asked for, because why not.
https://clyp.it/y1j1vdka
https://clyp.it/xjgujbjr
https://clyp.it/qso2t3ya
https://clyp.it/wiruklsb
https://clyp.it/vyesf5tu

Anybody here into ambient music? Just made my first cassette tape loop the other day and recorded me messing around with my 4 track through my delay pedal

might be a little on the loud side

https://clyp.it/z1b3ohba

>>73944446
>arrangement
thanks for the feedback - arrangement is usually the biggest critique i get, i'll keep the practice up.


anyone in the thread have tips about how to keep music from getting too repetitive/boring? i resist the temptation make my stuff too busy but i'm starting to think i need something new happening every couple bars?

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>tfw beat block
Guys how do you get over this??

>>73945151
An easy way to get more mileage out of an idea is to repeat it but in a different key. It can be the exact same changes, but in a different key it has a different energy and feeling. This is a pretty common practice in pop music

>>73945151
I've been watching a bunch of YouTube videos from this guy Red Means Reccording. Basically all of his tunes are just one basic chord progression with lots of changes in arrangement.

>>73945795
I love Red Means Recording
Well, i mean i get very very jealous when i watch his videos, so not quite “love”
But yeah he has a way to know where to take the song that I wish I could grasp better

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will the last hit be lowered because of the release? or it will stand uncompressed because its attack is louder than the threshold, thus reseting the compressor? which way a compressor works?

>>73945871
I know that feel. I actually want an OP-1 now, but I know it wouldn't really help me make tracks as good as his. He know's his stuff though, he's revealed that he was in music school for a little while at least. Also his ableton videos are great.
I guess a few things I've learned from him are:
-don't overthink things. Find a sound you like and do something with it. Repeat 10,000 times.

-record multiple takes with slight variations in timing. The listener will appreciate these subtle changes, even if only on a subconscious level.

- you don't have to quantize everything.

- write/ improvise good music first, then worry about production.

Not saying I'm good or anything, but I think whenever you feel that jealousy, that is when its time to break out the pen and paper and take notes.

>>73946532
>OP-1
less than a faggot

Best free spring reverb vst?

>>73946462
if the attack is louder than the compressor it will be compressed, not uncompressed.

if it was quieter, than it would still be reduced because the reduction would take another 50 ms to get back to 0db

>>73946933
>if the attack is louder than the compressor it will be compressed, not uncompressed.
but the attack time on the compressor is longer than the drum's attack, so it will not compress it, right?
but in this case it will be compressed regardless, because of the long release?

>>73946786
I know dawg, fruity loops + massive 4 lyf. All u need

>>73947271
Not him but I don't know. The release time will be going up as it returns to normal, also, a gap of 50 ms is so fast its more like a chorus for the transient. With compressor values, it pays to just listen to it and see what you like best. Matthew Weiss has a good series of vids on compression

>>73947271
>the attack time on the compressor is longer than the drum's attack, so it will not compress it, right?

no. if it goes above the threshold the compressor is triggered. the attack time is the amount of time it takes to reach full volume reduction- so if it goes -10 db over 10 ms it goes down 1db per second etc. the inverse is true of release (though it will be retriggered if something crosses the threshold even if the release isn't over)

the longer attack time just means the drums transient has that long to get through, hence "punchy" drums are easily achieved with a long attack and quick release time

>>73947385
>massive

jfc everybody tells you "you don't need more synths just learn what you have xD there's nothing wrong with synth1" and i believed that shit for so long until i tried massive. sylenth 1 was all i used for like three years and i felt like such an idiot after that

pls
https://clyp.it/wc5ovaie
is the bass clear
are the drums good or i better route them and process them individually

>>73934098
i used to have those, they are okay
they do have a bit of a hiss when on, but its not too bad.

>>73947823
>>73947809
i get that
but as the last hit triggers the compressor again, will it re-trigger it and cancel the previous release time or it will be affected by the previous hit's release, and thus be quieter than the previous hit?

>>73948042
>will it re-trigger it and cancel the previous release time

it goes down from there. it's case by case depending on settings and velocity but yeah, probably quieter

>>73945151
automation.

>>73942623
if you mix it good, there is no reason to record each track individually. It just goes straight to mastering.

>>73948223
i'm pretty sure the implication here is that they're doing something itb dude.........

nobody here is miixing on a 100% hardware workflow lol

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>>73943619
also have a moog little phatty

>>73948319
Jelly

>>73948319
this isn't directed toward you but whenever i see somebobdy with anything modular i immediately assume their music is just shit or them noodling around lol

>>73947948
>>73947948
>>73947948

>>73948409
don't be a faggot

>>73947948
>process them individually
maybe, depends what you're using

i can tell you right off that's too much reverb/room or whatever

>>73948394
That's actually a good assumption because its easy to make a modular sound like shit lol

>>73948609
too much room/reverb from the drums or from everything

>>73945210
throw things in arpeggiators

>>73943619
got a alpha juno reight besides me put it is just used for midi

>>73943017
cool mang u work at a studio?

>>73937765
no those arent hats I think those are there just for ambiance I can't tell you exactly how I did it cause i dont really remember but something like that

>>73948944
thanks man
no studio, thats just a pic of eddie kramer the producer

Which youtuber is good at making trap tutorials
So far I've watched some basic FL studio manuals but everything I make sounds like a processed hamburger

https://clyp.it/q4xdtdzf

>>73949099
u do professinal work?

>>73949126
no :(

>>73949576
sounds like you have an ear for things tho what do you think about my track?

https://instaud.io/15Wu

>>73948609
>maybe, depends what you're using
i'm using an eq, compressor and a "desk saturation" to make it louder without actually compressing, two of them actually
processing them individually would allow for boosting the eq frequencies more precisely for each drum part, like shaping the snare's sound better and making the kick bassier and its attack brighter without boosting 70hz on the other drums
thats what i'm asking, if they already sound proper and cut through etc

>>73949658
i'm sorry i have no idea of sound for electronic music

>>73950212
ahh ok but Im sure you have some sort of opinion of it?

alright so when your making hip hop and the drums don't sound compact and together, how would you fix it to make it sound better? I need help with drum programming in hip hop

>>73950640
Listen to rap

>>73950712
and...?

you implying I don't already listen to rap to be asking this question in the first place?

I was listening to the beat No ID made for the Story of OJ and the drums and the beat sound really good there, and I was wondering how to make something similar.

how to mastering

i just put the slate digital master buss and master tape plugins and a multiband compressor with the same db on every range

>>73948319
let's hear some shit anon give us a clyp

>>73950640
velocity according to how you would imagine it sounding.... pretend your tapping the beats out etc. parallel compression, reverb, SAMPLE SELECTION

>>73948792
the drums, i hear it most on the snare and open hat his

>>73949672
i meant for the drums, like if you can already process things seperately (because you need to)

all i've ever used for acoustic drums is studio drummer, and i'm not a fan of the included effects there, so i'm inclined to say you should bounce everything down and process seperately. especially with the tail off that snare, idk what you're doing but it needs a gate before it hits the reverb or a transient shaper or something.

you shouldn't be compressing (or anything) for loudness, rookie mistake desu. your daw should have something dedicated to volume.

tl;dr no, you don't sound all the way there yet.

i still stand by the zeppelin comparisson, i think the drums have to much meat on them overall. weren't there vocals on this?

>>73950879
REFERENCE TRACKS, IN LOSSLESS

i know a lot of people here like throw around mb compression because it gets mentioned a lot, but imo needing that on your mastering chain is indicative of dynamic problems in the mix.

>>73949112
use a different kick, use velocity, highpass your hats

>>73944901
>Anybody here into ambient music
no, but this sounds extremely thin, you need something down there man, even just a sin

>>73944823
>>73943856
okay leaving multiple clyps with an easily trackable name and not asking some specific question looking for validation is just as bad as dropping your soundcloud and leaving the thread.

>>73943591
toms a little boomy there, needs a lot of mixing... could be pretty decent after that.

>>73943041
two needs to be -6db each to match

>>73944291
>someone with some good external monitors tell me how the levels are on this thing?

bad honestly. are you not using a reference? drums are really fucking quiet aside from the kick, which is fairly loud. alright track though

>>73934500
this is actually pretty impressive

>>73950879
>>73951289
>multiband compressor with the same db on every range
i only now realized that has nothing to do with achieving an even spectrum

how to achieve an even spectrum.

i throw a spectrum analysis on some great mixes and they all are like a flat diagonal line

>inb4 just go for your ears not for your eyes
if the pros do it, theres a reason for it. maybe it makes it more pleasing and full sounding to the ear

>>73951474
>>inb4 just go for your ears not for your eyes
>if the pros do it, theres a reason for it. maybe it makes it more pleasing and full sounding to the ear

okay if you don't know what you're talking about don't make any statements asserting that there has to be a reason for something

they're going to tell you to use your ears and not your eyes.

that "flat diagonal line" (it's definitely curved) is to do with volume and the dynamic range of your instruments, none of this is supposed to be fixed at the mastering stage.

>>73949658
Hey

>>73951289
>two needs to be -6db each to match
?

>>73951840
two sources at -6db should sound the same as one at 0. post hit character limit

... if that's what you meant to ask. i don't know beyond that.

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>>73943619
Been full hardware for a while now, finally getting into an equipment situation where it feels like I've got most of my needs fulfilled. Main setup is basically a Novation K-Station, E-mu ESI-32, Casio VZ-1, Yamaha TX81z, and a Roland MC-505 for sequencing. I've got more synths, but they're not in regular use so they're just sitting in some drawers right now.

Recently got a proper rack stand; having everything racked up in one spot makes a world of difference. Now I just need to take advantage of the convenience and actually start recording my next project.

>>73944297
>two E-mu ESIs
Nice
>both complete with rack ears
Damn, that's some good luck. It seems like most of the ones on the used market are missing their rack ears for some reason.

>>73951957
I'll rephrase:
If I have to make a sawtooth wave by manually putting together the single frequencies like an additive synth, I'd make the 1st frequency at 100hz, the second at 200hz, the third at 300hz, and so on.

Now, after I added the 1000th one it should sound like a saw from a synth oscillator, but it doesn't because my sine waves are all the same volume, but those in a synth sawtooth get quieter with each higher frequency.

How do I know what volume I should set my sine waves at, so they match the slope of those from a synth, making my sines sound like an actual saw wave?

Is there such a thing as a cheap all-in-one synthesizer to play with or should I just get around to setting up a DAW and use VSTs? I looked at craigslist briefly in curiosity and everything was at least a couple hundred dollars. I'd carry on my electronics project and just fucking build one but I had serious problems with getting regulated voltages.

Alternately, is there a decent software solution that I could use with an arduino?

>>73948394
Because for most people using them they are sound toys and not instruments. Probabilistic variation of patterns gets me pretty pissed desu.

>>73952336
I don't think it matters... wouldn't it just depend on how bright you want it? i'd imagine that slope would just mimick putting a high/low shelf on a saw lol, there's no modulation going on so it would just be deciding how loud you want each harmonic. the "standard" saw you'd hear would be just a standard log b (x) if i had to guess (it's been a few years since i took calc, i think that's the equation)

not that it matters but what are you trying to do?

>>73952473
if you can't spend that much just use vsts

if arduino supports vst then anything will do. vst4free.com knock yourself out

>>73952496
>log b (x)
>(negative obviously)

>>73952473
By all-in-one do you mean a single synth that covers several different synthesis types (subtractive, FM, etc) or just a good synth that's well-featured for a single synthesis type?

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>>73926451
https://clyp.it/ajqh34bt

Opinions on this so far? I'm producing for a friend who raps and usually don't work with trap beats. I have a lot more ideas this is just the start.

>>73951289
heres the new one

https://clyp.it/aufxaoqj

>i meant for the drums
ezdrummer vintage

>like if you can already process things seperately (because you need to)
i'm trying do it without routing everything because it would take a lot of work to re-eq etc

>so i'm inclined to say you should bounce everything down and process seperately. especially with the tail off that snare, idk what you're doing but it needs a gate before it hits the reverb or a transient shaper or something.
i took some of the reverb. does it still need that gating?

>you shouldn't be compressing (or anything) for loudness, rookie mistake desu. your daw should have something dedicated to volume.
lol yeah i'm using the track volume controls.
by loud i mean, i guess, compressed? with the quieter parts brought up. these saturation stuff do that a bit without having to worry about release and attack times, it just plain makes it louder. should i try using a limiter for that? what you do for that?

>i think the drums have to much meat on them overall
i-i'm trying to get a bit modern sound with big punchy drums and stereo guitars. but agree that they may be too meaty, tried to

yeah theres vocals for this song. i'm yet to record it or have a friend do it

>>73952336
have you tried inspecting the reference sawtooth for the difference in volume between each frequency

>>73949658
>>73950627
>>73951674
idk
sounds like the levels are well set, except for that beat that starts around 40s
maybe try boosting some highs on the hihat, high mids on the lead and boosting some lows on the kick i dont know i'd experiment with frequencies

>>73952496
Already tried with a filter and it doesn't even sound close.
With no filter or volume adjustments it just sound saw-ish (because of the perfect harmonic series), but still very far from what comes out of a synth.

>standard log b (x)
I'm a high school dropout so forgive my ignorance, but what does that mean?
All I need is a list of numerical values to set my sines at. How do I use what you posted to get to that list?

>>73952801
>have you tried inspecting the reference sawtooth for the difference in volume between each frequency
What do you mean?
Inspecting by doing what exactly?

>>73952868
checking the difference in dB between each frequency wave. then you just do the same on the waves that youre generating

>>73952896
You mean looking at a spectrograph while lowering the volume of each sine until it matches the corresponding one in the reference saw?

Yes I did that.
Takes too much time and it's not precise at all.

If I had a list of the right numbers I would just have to type them in one after the other, instead of constantly having to carefully AB the two signals.

How do you change modulation/time on FL? like have certain effects come on stronger or weaker when you so choose. Not even sure what keywords to look up.

>>73953049
automation prolly

>>73953059
>>73953059
Thanks, thats it

>>73952896
Re-readimg your post I think I misunderstood it.

You mean analyzing and noting down the volume of the frequencies in the reference saw, so I can get the list of values that I need, correct?

How would I do that and get an accurate reading?

>>73953146
>>73953029
Yeah thats what i meant. Dont know how to do it thought, and i guess it still wont be precise enough to make the sound youre looking for

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Oh my lord

some rapper rap over my beat and it has over 1.5k plays

holy fuck shit
u all suck

>>73953293
Oh well, thank you anyway.

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>>73953306
>listening to your own beat over 1.5k times

>>73953339
no his rap over it has 1.5k plays

instrumental alone 5k

nasty pleb nasty

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ffs /prod/ pls halp. I've been stuck for MONTHS trying to decide what combo of drum machine/sequencer/sampler I want

I have my synths, but I'm still lacking a drum machine

I want pads, I want to be able to make drum sequences on the fly. I'm also trying to move away from Ableton and to make more stuff in the box, so I'd love a sampler. Also, I don't want to do too much menu diving (I already have an Elektron A4) so something simple and easy to navigate and most importantly, somewhat modern

tl;dr:

I need a

>Drum machine/sampler/sequencer
>I want pads
>don't need xbox hueg capabilities
>easy menu access

what would you suggest to look into?

ps: I've been on the fence about an Octatrack. The machine is def a beast, but I think it might be too much sample mangle oriented. I'm looking for something as hands on as an octatrack ,but not so crazy. A Rytm maybe?

>>73952801
oops, snare had too much bottom-mic-hiss compared to the original zeppelin recording. fixed it.
https://clyp.it/jgca04av

>>73953679
much better... missed your response earlier lol

my ears might be deceiving me but now it sounds like you need to bump the drums up 1 or 2 db... maybe i was just fixated on the drums earlier lol

>>73953535
If you're gonna buy elektron wait until the mkii versions of all their black box stuff comes out. Even if you don't want the mkii version the originals will be discounted.

>>73936553
Not him but hurt my ears too. Bad sound design

Why do you do what you do /prod/?

>>73954151
I just wanna fuck Kendall Jenner

>>73954151
music is the best thing and i want to do the best thing....?????????????

why the fuck wouldn't you

https://clyp.it/15ownvmw

>>73954257
what do you want

>>73954151
I make old soundtrack esq music. I'd prefer to play keyboards in a prog band, but there is no music scene in my area.

>>73954151
i enjoy it

>>73954338
praising

how do I get into sampling /prod/?

>>73943619
I have a pocket operator rhythm and volca bass

>>73954151
Its like playing video games, except I actually get something meaningful out of it. And it's a lot more frustrating

>>73954445
you just made me realize i have no idea what the fuck people do who can't use sampler in ableton

kontakt is too much for simple shit that's not multisampled ...

>>73954428
i hope you're not him :^(

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>>73953535
Korg ES-1 if you haven't got much money to throw around.

You'd need a smartmedia card and a card reader if you want to directly import samples from your computer, though (which I recommend, since recording and trimming samples inside the ES-1 itself is tedious)

should i keep working on a project even though it sounds like shit? It just depresses me. Like am I supposed to just not worry about mixing until I'm done with everything?

>>73955273
Keep working on it and try to find what makes it sound shit, and try to fix everything.
Even if you don't succeed, you'll still learn a lot.

Obviously there's a line, over which you're wasting too much time that would be better spent elsewhere, but my point is that by trying to push your capabilities and forcing you to think long and hard about something you find difficult, you end up improving much better than by just doing things when they're easy and abandoning them when they get hard.

>>73955273
Mixing starts with sound design and arrangement

If it sounds like shit you can't just fix that in the mix

>>73926451
got fucked up and made these tonight
https://clyp.it/vljbt5rm#
https://clyp.it/gm1ajxl5

https://clyp.it/noz3rgea

First thing I made, rate?

>>73955836
...

>>73956742
thank you for the useful feedback

>>73955836
its not good and the synth shit is too loud compared to the drums

just practice more really

>>73956789
I thought you were trolling...

You're not at a point where anybody can help you or give meaningful feedback, go put some work in to the point you can have specific questions

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https://discord.gg/G44TWEu

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https://clyp.it/2ygpql0o

is this thread dead yet?

https://clyp.it/w32jwvkw

What do ii need to do to make this longer?

>>73958509
its extremely repetitive

just throw the whole thing out, start over, make something more catchy or more interesting

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>>73955836
>fucking-around-with-a-synth-at-guitar-center-core

Is this interesting? Have been working on it for a while, but can't tell if I've just turned crazy. I don't actually listen to noise music at any notable rate, and might just have gotten my head stuck up my own ass.

https://clyp.it/fdd23a1y

>>73959093
I can dig this anon. I would say at some point soon in the song, take the distortion of of the bass track but leave everything else the same. Have the bass be more present i guess.

how do i get a louder level out of a track? close up the dynamic range?

>can make semi-competent individual loops
>no idea how to turn these into actual songs


anybody else have this issue

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>>73952272
>two E-mu ESIs
I actually have a 3rd one not pictured that I bought new for £1200 in the 90's!!!
>Damn, that's some good luck. It seems like most of the ones on the used market are missing their rack ears for some reason.
That's strange I have all the rack ears for mine including the 2 I bought on eBay, I've not really noticed any being sold without the rack ears but I guess I've never looked that hard.
If you have an esi without the rack ears it might be worth buying a second one with ears to use as spares, both of mine cost around £50 and the second esi32 was bought purely as my original esi32 floppy drive gave up on me and it was about the same price to buy another working esi as it was to buy a secondhand replacement floppy drive, plus the buttons, scrub wheel and display on these machines often wear out so it's handy to have a spare unit for those eventualities.
I upgraded my display on the esi4000 to a new Oled display which is fantastic. It also came with the turbo board which gives you some extra outputs and effects which are quite nice. I also updated the OS on my esi32 to give me all the extra Z-Plane filters the emu are famous for. I absolutely love these samplers. I'm now craving after a E4xt and will probably end up getting one when a really good condition one comes up for sale

>>73959962
Everyone had this problem in the beginning.

I solved it by forcing myself to add stuff to it to at least end up with something I could call a song (no matter how shitty it was), and after a few times I could easily make fitting parts that can go well with each other and build a track part by part.

Go watch those YouTube videos where producers make a song in 10 minutes to see how they force themselves to go from loops to actual (albeit simple) songs.

Also, study arrangement.
Literally take pen and paper and draw the sections of songs you like, and note where there are variations, tension, release, etc.
Use graph paper and have one square per bar (or beat if you need more precision.
This helps more than ypu think.

>>73961090
>Go watch those YouTube videos where producers make a song in 10 minutes to see how they force themselves to go from loops to actual (albeit simple) songs.


Holy shit thanks for that tip anon

Just started watching one and that's insanely more helpful than reading my daw's manual or tutorial vids

>>73959962
currently having that problem, have been making beats for 5 years but never been confident enough to release anything. Today I'm finally forcing myself to release, regardless of whether it's good or bad

>>73954597
>i hope you're not him :^(
why
whats wrong with praising someone for doing a good job

>>73961190
don't you know, there's no fun allowed in these threads.

I know etiquette and decorum are a thing, we don't want these threads to become soundcloud generals, but it's turning into /pol/ here. Every time someone posts a track, even if its totally anonymous, people cry shill.

As for >>73954257, it is good and does deserve praise, although its not my preferred genre. With some vocals added, it would be a very solid track. Others here should take notes, because basically 99% of things posted in these threads fucking suck.

>>73954257
I rike it, but inbetween 1:04 and 1:06 you seem to have accidentally hammered on some really disonant note

>>73961304
ok i'm just shitposting around
do you year any frequency range needing work for it to become a clear sounding master

>>73961355
i cant hear that note

>>73961370
Just check on my speakers and you're right - it's really only audible on the specific pair of headphones I'm wearing right now

>tfw you have great musical ideas and are starting to produce them but your voice is horrible and cant sing for shit

fuck, why even bother. and no, Im not gonna go looking for a singer, because im a worthless hikki and cant get along with normies.

>>73961716
Something about letting other people do shit over my beats without me doing anything seems cucky.

Like I could see doing it once I establish myself, but doing that when you just start out seems like a good way to be a producer for the rest of your life. Producers are treated like garbage.

>>73961304
>it would be a very solid track. Others here should take notes, because basically 99% of things posted in these threads fucking suck.

Its a fucking kiss cover dude

>>73961762

I agree, and in fact I even know how I want the lyrics and vocal melody to go in all my songs, but I dont have the actual voice for it.

On a completely unrelated note, this happened last night:

>dream about having a bbq with a few close imaginary friends, including 2 qt's. felt like something out of a 90's soft rock music video
>Thom Yorke is there for some reason, playing a song from a midi pad that sounds like something he'd make
>it was actually a good song, and I managed to wake up during the middle of it and remembered part of it

Damn, this song sounds like it could be real. Perhaps I heard it before and forgotten it, but it remained in my subconscious. It's very shoe-gazey on top of it all--I would need Thom Yorke or a female singer for it.

>>73961370
>>73961557

Correction, it's the drumkit

There's some really metallic "clang" on the right channel and I guess my headphones have a massive peak boost at that frequency

>>73961923
you better get it down, before you forget it dude

>>73961165
Glad it helped you anon.

Remember that all the technical skills you learn are just to improve on the sound, which is important but not as fundamental as the underlying musicianship that makes the music worth listening to in the first place.
That's why learning to make "good music" is much more helpful than learning the tools inside out (which you should still do, but it's secondary).

Many producers actually make the entire song with just saw and sine waves to not be fooled by the good sounds into thinking it's good music, and after they've composed music that can stand on its own they change the sounds to make it sound even better.

TL;DR: Music skills are much more important than technical skills and you should seek to learn those first.

>>73961716
Get Melodyne Studio and learn it inside out (it's pretty easy anyway), then learn some sample and vocal manipulation techniques from the more sound-design-y genres (DnB, dubstep, future bass, etc).

You'll learn how to get the voice you want regardless of what you start with.

>>73955478
the second one is okay

>>73955478
>https://clyp.it/vljbt5rm#

reminded me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0JfEhNOg3A

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https://clyp.it/1h2slfx0

How does this song sound? I'm trying to make a dance-house song but it feels all disjointed and a little too generic.
>w.i.p.
>dance / house / big beat?

sylenth1 is some ass. I'm so glad I didn't pay for this shit

>>73962850
>https://clyp.it/1h2slfx0


Don't listen to that style at all, but to me it sounds like a perfectly typical track of that genre, so I guess you achieved your goal

Probably sounds generic because of that chord progression that has been used a billion times before

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>>73927894
dope, though thru my headphones it sounds like the bass drum is drowning out all the lows of everything else. You should cut the eq for everything at at least 80hz to give room for the bass.

>>73930825
really neat, but it does sound like background music. if that's what you were going for, then you hit the nail on the head.

>>73933068
i like it. However, it sounds very noisy...like to where its drowning your highs out.

>>73958509
like what >>73958637 said, its really repetitive. I wouldn't throw it out though, just work what you have. Music can be short, some of my favorite Baauer jams are under 2 mins long.

>>73962861
sylenth1 is the shit! Its the perfect filler synth
>not unique enough to get noticed
>not entirely too cheesy to let people know you suck

>>73963072
real g's use Diva

>>73962977
sweet, thanks for the feedback.
>chord progression that has been used a billion times before
That's what I wish I could change, but I have such a hard time finding chords that work well without resulting to the generic progression of I–V–VI–IV

>>73962114

I did, I have a tablet beside my bed and I immediately started recording a crude sample of it with my voice.


On another note, how do people know for certain their ideas are original? I remember reading about the origins of the song "Yesterday" from the Beatles, and how Paul McCartney thought it up in a dream he had and initially thought he had subconsciously plagiarized it ("cryptomnesia").

>>73961957
cymbals?

>>73963186
>"Yesterday" from the Beatles, and how Paul McCartney thought it up in a dream he had and initially thought he had subconsciously plagiarized it ("cryptomnesia").
As soon as you asked your question I was going to bring this up. That's the coolest shit to me that Paul can literally write songs in his sleep that are better than what motherfuckers can do when they're awake. Post the vocal sample, I'm curious. Maybe someone could tell you if it sounds familiar or not.

Coming up with shit in dreams is the best. I think when we're dreaming we're at our most capable, and in our most creative state. I'm a rapper, and sometimes I find myself writing shit in my sleep that's better than if I was awake and struggling to come up with bars. Maybe it's because we're not trying so hard when we're sleep. Our insecurities are down, we're not compensating, not trying to come up with our masterpiece. It's the shit.

>>73963373
I trained myself to lucid dream by keeping a dream journal for 2 weeks. Then I started having sleep paralysis so I stopped

>>73963560
did that help with writing songs an melodies

>>73963867
not really melodies in particular, mainly just song arrangement. Like I would hear a final version and would have to deconstruct it once I was awake

>>73964121
im sorry for your schizophrenia, wish you the best

>>73954151
fuck the money G
I just wanna be happy

>>73954501
this. After a playing a shit ton of mmorpg's, i realized that I was just wasting a good portion of my life on something I'd never be happy with.