Industry plants thread?

Chance the rapper

the weeknd
lana del ray
odd future
iggy azalea
azalia banks

Oasis

>>73905465
chvreches

>>73905304
Beach Boys

>>73905491
Not true

>>73905579
damn...

>>73905714
realy make u think

>>73905618
it's true

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>>73905304

>>73907274
Nah, they were just Malcom McLaren's second attempt at destroying punk rock and actually succeeding this time. Fuck him.

>>73905465
>the weeknd
nah
>lana del ray
absolutely
>odd future
nah
>iggy azalea
nah
>azelia banks
nah

>>73909492
why not?

>>73905465
how is odd future a plant.

I dunno, man. I've known Khalid ever since he moved to El Paso. I'm not close friends with him, but I think that he made it big actually because of that one song. RCA just scooped him up and said "WE'RE GONNA MAKE YOU A STAR KID!" And they did. I dunno.

>>73909522
How was Odd Future a plant? Chance isn't a true plant, was common knowledge that he had some kinda decent connections because of his family by anyone who lived in Chicago. He still did street level rapper marketing though, I remember him passing out CDs and going up to high schools and shit to sell a couple posters/show tickets, whatever (he came to mine once) and his crowd was small as fuck, like sub ~30 people.

>>73909568
they influence kids to smoke marijuana

marijuana is a plant

quod erat demonstrandum

>>73909145
PiL was great though

>>73909613
I completely agree.

>>73909598
>>73909522

the weeknd blew up on youtube from his mixtapes
odd future pretty much the same
iggy azalea blew up from being a white bitch with a fat ass and selling sex
azelia banks was shock value and catchy production on 212

>>73905304
meghan trainor
katy perry
lady gaga

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>>73905304
literally anyone signed to a corporation is compromised at this point.

>>73909598
>Chance isn't a true plant
kek. there is NOTHING real about CTR.

>>73905618
go ask Kevin Shields

>>73909853
Link?

>>73909802
100% correct. The real question is, who are the 'indie' plants?

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>>73909611
/sci/ leaking

>>73909862
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2013/oct/03/kevin-shields-britpop-pushed-by-government
>""Britpop was massively pushed by the government," he said. "Someday it would be interesting to read all the MI5 files on Britpop. The wool was pulled right over everyone's eyes there.""

>>73909598
kek, this shill.

I got news for you kids, ALL mainstream rap is bogus at this point.

>>73909969
I like how underneath he goes on to say how he was high on drugs pretty much the whole period and cant really remember anything

Kinda make me not believe him

>>73908246
ha. 10/10

>>73909987
>>73909819
gonna present an angle or just post empty words

>>73909598
wtf I respect Chance now

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>>73910525
>wtf I respect Chance now

What is an industry plant?

>>73909819
Pre-Coloring Book chance was pretty grassroots.
But around the time he started working with Kanye on stuff like TLoP and CB he pretty much became like an industry plant.

>>73910598
popular musicians who've been made famous by the music industry/major labels instead of by naturally garnering a fanbase

>>73910677
there is literally nothing real about CTR. Nice try though

>>73910766
>popular

Half of them aren't even 'popular' irl. They're just the beneficiaries of corrupt media campaigns (like the shills on this very board). Look at someone like Grimes. No one cares about Grimes irl.

It's what they did w/ Beyonce, but now people are hip to the game.

Raury

Twenty one pilots. They're such an obvious attempt to exploit kids who think mental illness is cool

Authenticity>the music itself
does it even matter when most popular music is the same anyway?

>>73909598
lol i first saw chance when he opened for some local underground legends in 2012
i didnt even remember that till just now

>>73905427
Underrated.

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>>73911057
I love when the shills take this angle.

"authenticity', 'integrity' and 'ethics' are overrated and don't matter!

>>73911128
>lol i first saw chance when he opened for some local underground legends in 2012
(pic related)

I rest my case on CTR being a complete bullshit plant.


But Jesus, they're really scraping the bottom of the shill barrel here. These idiots aren't even kind of believable.

>>73911192
You're saying that industry shills have come to THIS VERY THREAD to lie about seeing chance before he was famous?

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>>73911238
The man saw him open for some local underground legends!

>>73910598
someone who is more successful than my cheap indie bands that make garbage music

>>73911254
Give it up Pajeet.

>>73911253
typical cats to be specific famos

>>73911297
I'm sure.

Are they from Mumbai too?

>>73911253
So do you think there's paid shills patrolling /mu/ 24/7 or do they get alerted about threads that "know too much" on some sort of hotline?

Your life and everything in it is less than 1% as important as you think it is.

>>73910766
>>73905304
Wouldn't allmost all mainstream/popular musicans be "industry plants" then?

Kind of a pointless thread. You should ask who *isn't* an industry plant.

>>73911321
yeah totally

>>73911323
Paid shills 24/7.

ain't hard to tell ( you idiots suck at it)

>>73911275
keep fighting the jews my friend. don't let their pop """music""" (LOL) get anywhere near you! praise kek and maga for the win.

>>73911333
These days? yes.

Always? No.

>>73911400
>Always? No.
Example?

>>73911396
What does pointing out terrible ESL shills have to do w/ Jews?

It's almost like you're following a template.

>>73911410
Cobain, MJ, Tupac, Lauryn Hill etc. etc. etc.

>>73905304
Halsey being the most obvious example.

>>73911448
>Cobain
Promoted by Record Label
>MJ
Was literally in a created boy band
>Tupac
Exploited family political affiliations
>Lauryn Hill
She and her brother were actors, and she gained popularity from Hollywood connections.

See? Any artist could be an "industry Plant"

>>73911448
MJ's father worked in the industry dumbass, he was basically born to sing

>>73909729
>the weeknd blew up on youtube from his mixtapes
yeah, it just so happened there was major industry production and songwriting talent behind him from mixtape 1


>iggy azalea
backed by TY$ since pu$$y

>azelia banks
Diplo and XL linked from the beginning

The definition of a plant as I understand it is
>someone who pretends to be independent while supported by a label or labels

Kendrick is actually a prime example of this. He did the whole signing shit in like 2011 or 2012 when he had actually been signed the year prior. Strange Music Travis O'Guin talks of this, as he had signed other TDE label mate Jay Rock around that time I believe.

Odd future were likely a little planty, with a lot of organic buzz to help. Frank Ocean has absolutely no place in that group, yet he just -happened- to find Tyler and co. and become buddy buddy. Business first, kiddies. Remember that. You can buy these stories but the music business is still a business, and what's it to Frank or Tyler to pretend to be friends for some money from the label? Frank's career needed the foundation of OF to give him an edge. He was already very marketable, but being a part of OF made a huge difference I'm sure. Everyone will try to discount OF now, but they were fucking huge, everyone was listening to Yonkers, and then She. I saw it at my school. I saw people posting links on facebook. I saw OFWGKTA posted and talked about, and Tyler retains a cult fanbase to this day.

OF was like a perfect combo of planting and organic build up. You have the shock raps, hipster appeal, different artwork, undeniable talent in Earl's raps or Tyler's production, and the easily memeable crew name. Perfect storm.

I wouldn't be surprised if they got bank rolled by some label.

>>73911708
>major industry production and songwriting talent behind him from mixtape
Why would it? Aren't mixtapes free? Why would the talent bother doing it if they weren't being paid?

>>73911382
They act like shills getting paid a cent a post is some outlandish concept

>>73911297
oh shit, he opened for typical cats? chance also frequented chicago's YCA and YOUmedia programs to do poetry and rap before he really blew up. his feature on that donald glover mixtape helped him a lot too

I really don't think guys here know definition of a industry plant or they're just being ignorant for tasty (You)s.

>>73911752
>Why would the talent bother doing it if they weren't being paid?
who says they weren't?

>>73911798
With what money? To my understanding, mixtapes don't generate revenue, nor publishing rights.

>>73911708
>major industry production
The producers were literally whos, and any amateur could do what they did. If you listen to the originals and not the Trilogy remasters a lot of the sampling and mixing is actually pretty rough.
I'm not crazy about his new stuff but the mixtapes were genuinely good and he nailed a timely aesthetic to get them out there.

>>73911604
>promoted by record label

Are youfucking kidding me? Your entire post is nonsense.

Those where real people and actual artists who were signed to corporate record labels.

The people now are just straight up plants. They were never average citizens.

>>73911629
That's not what an industry plant is and you know it.

>>73911827
They could get money from a label under the table. Pretty simple actually.

Signing bonus and then release the music free or not, pay shills a minuscule amount of money from the bonus, or out of your own pocket to promote your music. Reach wider audience, acquire more money for a small fee. Spend money to make money, business 101

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>>73911765
Half of them can barely write a proper English sentence anymore.

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>>73911788
You're fooling absolutely no one.

>>73911908
I guess everyone has to be called a shill eventually on 4chan. Be serious, do you really think I'm making shit up to make Chance look better or are you just fucking with me right now?

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>>73905304
u guys r missing the most obvious plant

>>73911848
>They were never average citizens.
Example?
>>73911882
>They could get money from a label under the table
Why? There's no revenue. No motive.
>Signing bonus
What signing bonus? He wasn't signed when the mixtapes came out, right?
>music free or not, pay shills
With what money? You just said it was free.
>or out of your own pocket to promote your music.
Oh, so now you are saying he was just some guy doing it himself? Then he's not an industry plant. make up your mind.

>>73911604
>Tupac
How did Pac exploit his BP connections 20 years after they were defunct?

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>>73911788
Here are the Chicago hiphop underground 'legends'. (pic related)

kek

I fucking gurantee you 'Chance' did not grow up in any real hood in Chicago.

Fake as all fuck.

>>73911971
Political connections always stay.

>>73911981
bwahahahahaha


Yeah, I'm sure these guys are absolute legends in the Southside.

>>73911981
>I fucking gurantee you 'Chance' did not grow up in any real hood in Chicago.
Chance is from Chattham and never claimed to be hood. Are you dumb?

There's a lot that annoys me about the authenticity of Chance's actions now but you guys are listing none of them. Typical Cats are good btw

>>73911966
Are you acting retarded on purpose

>This anon doesn't understand that you can spend your own money while still receiving label support

>There's no revenue in doing shows or merch
>There's no revenue in festivals
>There's no revenue in commercials
>There's no revenue in media appearances

>He wasn't signed

Who are we talking about right?

>With what money

It's not exactly going to be expensive, I just laid out two ways you could pay shills, since they're probably pretty cheap.

>So now you are saying he was just some guy

WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

>>73912016
He can't claim a hood, because then everyone would know that HE IS NOT REAL.

Most of the 'rappers' today can't claim a hood, because THEY'RE NOT FUCKING FROM THE HOOD.

It's all fake. They have no history.

>>73912038
nah

MSM is ultimately centralized.

There is one firm with a list of artists/business/ideas that are shilled.


The same people who are shilling Spotify are the same people who are shilling Grimes.

>>73912038
>>There's no revenue in doing shows or merch
Not to songwriters/producers
>>There's no revenue in festivals
Not to songwriters/producers
>>There's no revenue in commercials
What commercials was he in while only releasing mixtapes?
>>There's no revenue in media appearances
Not to songwriters/producers
>It's not exactly going to be expensive
How much?
>WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
The Weekend?

>>73912048
I just told you he's from Chatham and earnestly claims it in his songs. I don't know what year you think it is but rappers don't have to be "hood" to be successful anymore. As a matter of fact, those ghetto rappers are probably less popular now a days.

>>73912076
Yep

>>73912078
Do you not understand the concept of an investment? As in, put money in now, receive more money later?

>Not to songwriters/producers

So you know the full extent of The Weeknd's contract?

>What commercials

See above. Key word: investment.

>>73912099
Thereis a reason they're not from the hood.

Because they're fucking FAKE.

They're actors playing a part. Real life Truman Show.

>>73912137
>So you know the full extent of The Weeknd's contract?
Do you?

Post it.

>investment
Prove it.

I feel like you don't know how the music industry works.

>>73912141
Where are you from?

>>73912076
>>73912102
this must be b8, im a paranoid schizophrenic and not even i connect the dots in such an obtuse matter, it is very possible parties that share similar interests however are distinct from one another, are shilling, like that's capitalism.
These people play the game, they don't control it.

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>>73912141
Yep. Same thing with Indie rock. Back in the day, you built from the ground up. Bands has reputations from local scenes, most of the time since they were teenagers.

Now bands have no history or rep, and are really just globalists kids.

>>73912156
You're the one claiming songwriters and producers aren't getting paid, as if that was even important in the grand scheme of things anyway. You made the claim, YOU prove it dumbass.

I'm following a very simple train of logic that you can't comprehend because you're probably a fucking a shill, a monkey could get this.

>Label invests in weeknd
>"Hey churn out these mixtapes, we'll help create the illusion of an organic buzz through bank rolling it while you blow up, then when you're really famous we want a cut from x y and z"
>Okay sounds good

I feel like you're being willfully ignorant. You probably don't even know what a 360 deal is.

So Mr. Music Industry guru. How does the industry "really work" in ways that I'm not understanding?

>>73912176
>mad that anon nailed it

you dudes are terrible writers, often suck at English, and use the same templates over and over.

You're not slick.

>>73912276
I love how they do the
>I'm crazy but even I wouldn't think that

The opposite of that being another favorite of theirs, obviously.

>Hurr durr you're just a tinfoil hatter!!!

While I don't necessarily agree that it is completely centralized, it's not exactly far fetched and far from crazy.

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>>73912313
>as a paranoid schizophrenic myself

>While I don't necessarily agree that it is completely centralized

Have you been in a coma for the last two years?

>>73912359
I didn't say I'm a paranoid schizophrenic

>>73912254
>as if that was even important in the grand scheme of things anyway.
Yes, these guys are work for hire. That's how it works. When I produce a track for an artist, it's for money. I want to get paid. If I co-write a song with an artist, I get half the publishing.

>>Label invests in weeknd
>>"Hey churn out these mixtapes
Lets look at the timeline
>In September 2012, The Weeknd signed with Republic Records
>On 21 March 2011, The Weeknd self-released his debut mixtape,
So again, he wasn't signed when he released his mixtapes

>>73912381
I know. I was joking. Who writes a sentence like that?

>this must be b8, im a paranoid schizophrenic and not even i connect the dots in such an obtuse matter...

ridiculous.


and pay attention.....it's centralized.

>>73912313
>it's not exactly far fetched and far from crazy.
true, but you can also connect the dots in any ways you want, the whole grimes/Spotify thing is something that would be considered paranoia
>>73912359
seek help.
>>73912381
ya that was me

>>73912415
You can stop arguing with yourselof.

We know the mainstream music industry is bullshit.

Having a staged argument about the nuances of it doesn't fool anyone.

>>73912415
That's all well and good, but producers can be quite underpaid, many have complained about it. Maybe at your level where all they have to do is give you 10 dollars and a cheeseburger you get paid but when you're talking big money people get fucked over. MANY have came out and talked about this.

>He wasn't signed because he public announcement of signing wasn't until this date

It's like you don't understand the concept of an industry plant at all.

>>73912485
>It's like you don't understand the concept of an industry plant at all.
I don't. I was this guy >>73911333
I asked, and you couldn't successfully explain it.

Is it just a tinfoil hat bullshit thing?

>>73912441
>true, but you can also connect the dots in any ways you want, the whole grimes/Spotify thing is something that would be considered paranoia

It's paranoia to think that the msm (and shilling on social media IS the new msm) is centralized and aligned with certain business/people?

Kek


Nice try. That' not paranoia, that's accurate.

>>73912460
>Having a staged argument about the nuances of it doesn't fool anyone.
ding ding ding

>>73912415
>>73912485
same faggot

>>73912543
well if you group everything under umbrella terms, ignoring nuance in distinction then yes you can make sweeping generalizations and be right.

either way have fun with that minimum wage job you'll have for the rest of your life.

>>73912528
>Hurr durr tinfoil hat

Called it. It was only a matter of time.

Again, my understanding is that industry plants are people who pretend to be independent when they were signed. Kendrick Lamar is an industry plant.

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>>73912562
kek
>>73912585
>who pretend to be independent when they were signed.
So, not The Weekend.
>Kendrick Lamar is an industry plant.
n 2004, at the age of 16, Lamar released his first full-length project, a mixtape titled Youngest Head Nigga in Charge (Hub City Threat: Minor of the Year), under the pseudonym K-Dot.[11] The mixtape was released under Konkrete Jungle Muzik and garnered local recognition for Lamar.[12] The mixtape led to Lamar securing a recording contract with Top Dawg Entertainment (TDE), a newly founded indie record label, based in Carson, California.[11] He began recording material with the label and subsequently released a 26 track mixtape two years later, titled Training Day (2005).[13]

No, I guess he was not either. You are not very good at this.

>>73912562
No it's not, dummy.

>>73912624
That's the narrative. That's the whole point. You're the type to read a wiki article and buy it just because that's what they said.

Watch the fucking Travis O'Guin interview where he talks about Kendrick. He was signed before they announced it. Hence, PRETENDING TO BE INDEPENDENT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC5734Ct3ug

14 minutes in

>>73912585
>Kendrick Lamar is an industry plant.
could be. Or could be a legit rapper who became compromised a la Jay-Z.

We won't even get into how they used to control real rappers back when they allowed for real rappers.

>>73912752
Yeah you've got to love how they offer up fucking Wikipedia as definitive proof.

Rappers from LA are particularly suspect.

>>73912777
so you people are saying any rapper signed to a label is an industry plant and is compromised, while also saying rappers who refuse to sign to labels, like Chance, are also industry plants. which is it?

>>73912752
>You're the type to read a wiki article and buy it just because that's what they said.
Oh look more tinfoil hat garbage.

Prove anything you are claiming.
>14 minutes in
He doesn't give any facts. What year is he talking about? I would basically not trust anyone who uses the words "ya feel me?" I don't understand what he's even saying.

>>73912848
Not what I said at all. I don't believe they allow for real rappers anymore. (but you know that shill)

Back in the day there were real rappers and real blackmail.

And lol at fucking Chance. Give it the fuck up already. There is literally no one dirtier and less authentic than that guy.

If you think he gets the press he does as a TRULY independent artist I've got a bridge in Brooklyn you will totally be interested in. (jk....I know you're a disinfo shill)

>>73912798
How is wikipedia unreliable?

You can, literally right now, revise Kendrick lamar's wikipedia to say he's an industry plant.

Be sure to cite your sources btw
>>73912914
>Back in the day there were real rappers and real blackmail.
Like who?

>>73905304
It cracks me up that rap is such an objectively shit genre that it's this saturated with industry plants because they can't trust "genuine" rappers to make anything other than garbage

>>73912877
Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows shit like Kendrick and Chance are fake as fuck. You can stop with the huckster bullshit.

>>73912930
>How is wikipedia unreliable?
>You can, literally right now, revise Kendrick lamar's wikipedia to say he's an industry plant.

this dumb fuck shill doesn't even notice the irony.

>>73912931
Modern indie rock is just as dirty.
>because they can't trust "genuine" rappers to make anything other than garbage

more disinfo

nice try shill

>>73912986
Indie rock is fucking terrible but I can't imagine there being as many industry plants as there are in this thread simply due to the nature of the genre.

>>73912877
>>73912877
Alright you're clearly just a shill, we're done here.

>Hurr durr tin foil

He gave you the facts as a business man doing business TDE. Interscope was in the background with Kendrick pretending his independence. This was back in 2011 ish when Jay Rock signed to Strange. O'Guin has no reason to lie about this, had positive words about TDE. He's a high level businessman and it wouldn't be smart to lie about something so damning about Kendrick. Also he barely sticks to it, just throws it as a passing comment.

>>73912848
Chance is on purely because of connections faking organic

The man got grammies for a free mixtape, kit kat commercials, and other shit. His dad is a Chicago Democrat who's friends with Obama. He made it out of a combination being charismatic with "good" music and his connections. And we all know connections get you farther than anything.

The whole "refusing to sign to label" shit is just narrative

>>73912986
>Anyone with
Non sequitur
>this dumb fuck shill doesn't even notice the irony.
Non sequitur
>>73913008
>we're done here.
Not an argument. Answer the questions
>This was back in 2011
But Lamar put out his first tape in 2004.

Try again

If you are right, you'd be able to prove any of this.

But I predict you can't so you are going to use an ad hominem and call me a shill because you have no argument. Am I right?

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>>73912624
kek, Kendrick Lamar.

The underground label who released his K.Dot mixtape is actually this person in NYC.

https://twitter.com/katherychel

The whole thing STINKS.

>>73913081
I did answer your QUESTION (1)

>>73913141
Where?
>>73913099
I don't have twitter, sorry. What are you referencing?

>>73913099
and even though they incorporated in fucking 1996, they don't seem to have released much in the way of music.(anything other than this 1 alleged mixtape?)

>>73912914
my dude I'm not a shill

I'm an actual conspiritard that thinks a frightening amount of politicians we know are pedophiles and I think you sound paranoid and crazy. Chance is most definitely on the side of the industry, but you can't say he didn't work to get where he was, and used his dad's pull to end up as big as he is.

>>73913191
>>73913099
Sounds indie to me. What's the big deal? I run like two tape labels.

>>73913331
well, this 'label' appears to have released exactly 1 fucking album/mixtape EVER.

ok

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>>73905304
Lil Yachty is plant-Tyler the Creator, but pushing the retard childishness even further because he literally has some mental impairment.

Kendrick Lamar is ghost-written by the greatest writers in the world so in 100 years they can say there really was a "black Shakespeare" and they're technically right.

>>73913369
That's pretty indie.

>>73913329
you're sentences (written in exceptiyonal crappy English) make no sense.

>His father, Ken Williams-Bennett, was an aide to former Chicago mayor Harold Washington and worked for then-Senator Barack Obama. Williams-Bennett, who is now a deputy chief of staff to Mayor Rahm Emanuel....

kek, it just gets better. He's about as fucking legit as Amy Schumer.
FRAUD

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>>73913424
Yeah, Amazing right? Almost... unbelievable.

>>73913474
Why wouldn't you believe it?

Occam's Razor and all.

>>73913457
>>His father, Ken Williams-Bennett, was an aide to former Chicago mayor Harold Washington and worked for then-Senator Barack Obama. Williams-Bennett, who is now a deputy chief of staff to Mayor Rahm Emanuel....

Nope. Chance the Rapper was just a regular kid with a dream. Just like one of us. Totally not an industry plant put into place for political reasons.

That's just crazy. Tinfoil TINFOIL!

>>73913457
>exceptiyonal crappy english
I really hope the irony is not lost on you. I also hope you don't really expect people to write you fucking essays when responding to your dumb paranoia posts on a Mongolian Basket Weaving forum.

>>73913521
I hope you get laid off Pajeet, you fucking lowlife.

This thread really backfired in your face.

>>73913503
>political reasons
What political reasons?

>>73913543
This is too stupid of a question to answer without mocking you.

>>73913474
A simple google search should tell you Konkrete Jungle was some sort of rave/hip hop venue. Maybe it's because they didn't specialize in releases.
>>73913594
If you can't answer it, it's not true

Again, without motive and opportunity, there's no crime.

>>73907274
Sid is a qt no homo

>>73909574
That's the definition of an industry plant lol

>>73913542
You think Chance's father had people write his raps for him?

>>73913609
Nope. It was registered to an apartment in Harlem.

And if the LA one was in fact a different company, they sure as fuck didn't release anything. Seems awfully suspect.

>If you can't answer it, it's not true/Again, without motive and opportunity, there's no crime.

A book could be written on the subject. kek.

>>73913653
I think CTR's 'music' is about as organic as Amy Schumer's 'comedy'.

But you know that. Arguing with a shill like you is a waste of time.

Any legit Anon w/ an IQ over 85, can see very clearly what the deal is here.

>>73913710
I'm wondering how you feel about this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_sdKNc5voI

>>73913676
I don't think that CD ever actually existed. No record of itoutside of one pic. Almost certainly fake. Never has come up for resale. It's bullshit.

Drake

>>73913891
It's not even on Discogs. Fake. Never existed. I don't believe anything about KL.

>>73913710
>Any legit Anon w/ an IQ over 85, can see very clearly what the deal is here.
Self evidence is not an argument.

Provide proof or fuck off
>>73913891
Oh like All Lights Drooling?

Fuck off as well

>>73913903
Yep

LCD Soundsystem
Grizzly Bear
Arcade Fire

>>73913994
>LCD Soundsystem
>Grizzly Bear
>Arcade Fire
How are these guys industry plants?

>>73913994
correct on all 3

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>>73914039
>how could the fat middle aged man who cam out of nowhere, running his supposedly 'indie' record label out of an 8 figure townhouse, who can't sing or play an instrument yet became a huge star seemingly overnight, possibly be a plant?

>>73914105
Yep that's it.

>>73905460
why does everyone say this and what would da joos have to gain from planting him

>>73914105
>how could the fat middle aged man who cam out of nowhere
Starting in 1993, Murphy used the name Death from Above when DJing, a nickname that was given to his signature PA setup while he was the sound setup for Six Finger Satellite. Murphy engineered Irish DJ David Holmes’ album Bow Down to the Exit Sign and was introduced to the record’s co-producer, Tim Goldsworthy (formerly of UNKLE). Goldsworthy and Murphy would DJ together on the Lower East Side, doing so with diverse genres of music. They went on to found DFA Records with Jonathan Galkin in 2001.[16] The name "Death from Above" led to a dispute with a two-man Canadian band also using the same name. In response to a legal threat, the Canadian group changed their name to Death from Above 1979.[17]

LCD Soundsystem began by releasing a string of singles under DFA Records, which was co-founded by band frontman James Murphy.[7] They gained attention with their first single, "Losing My Edge", which peaked at number 115 in the UK.[8] Described as "an eight-minute, laugh-out-loud funny dissection of cool over a dirty electronic beat";[9] the single became an underground dance favorite. This was followed by the single "Give It Up", and in the following year, "Yeah" and "Movement". The latter two peaked at number 77 and number 52 in the UK, respectively.[8]

>>73915062
Yeah, we know the official story.

>>73915144
OK cool because it looks like he didn't come out of nowhere, he was a NY DJ and engineer for a while in the club scene and worked his way up and then started some label.

>>73915266
bullshit. But ok. Shill on.

>>73915284
>Shill on
But I don't like LCD Soundsystem. Nice try.

>bullshit
Prove otherwise

>>73912237
tl;dr the internet made it easy for artists to get recognized. No shit Sherlock.

>>73909492
How the fuck is iggy not a plant? She has 0 talent and blew up pretty much overnight after being a literallywho to working with some of the biggest pop artists.

>>73905304
How do I become an industry plant?

>>73916742
>Invent time machine
>Get parents involved with DNC

CHVRCHES
if you follow the trail you'll see they have connections with higher ups in record labels.
lain wans't even in the band originally

>>73916601
>73916601
you're respindi9ng to a shill.

literally the opposite of what he's saying is true.

Expect AB, whose been blackballed out of the industry.

>>73905304
literally 99% of artists talked about here

>>73914105
some idiot in LCD came out as 'trans' yesterday too. Literally a fake band.

>>73917246
Not 99%, but 90% sure.

>>73905304
Joanna Newsom
Speedy Ortiz

>>73917160
this wouldn't surprise me. they make such bland, market-tested music, and even though iain was a pretty established artist in an actually good band all that ever gets talked about is lauren. I mean they're not terrible but the hype is extremely disproportionate, and it's weird how sustained it is when other shitty bands like purity ring have already been completely forgotten

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Paramore are literally an industry plant. They're not even a real band, it's all about Hayley. The other guys are just yes men.

Bon Iver

>>73917363
that's low-hanging fruit. you could say the same about any safe-edgy pop rock band from the 2000s

>>73917345
they owe their fame to lauren being a cute generic "attainable" hipster girl. not saying their first album wasn't catchy.

>>73917411
While that maybe true, that's not what a plant is. Just sayin. Personally I don't know enough about Paramore to know any more than they are shilled on here daily.

>>73917411
yeah but generic cute attainable girls are a dime a dozen, by definition, especially in entertainment industries. it could be literally any other girl, it's purely the marketing that makes it stand out

>>73917363
Labels wanted to sign her as a solo artist but she demanded to be signed as a band, eventually fbr were the only label who would sign Paramore

They do pretend to be a grassroots indie band when they aren't but they still make [made] good music

Old school plants include Weezer and The Flaming Lips.

>>73917363
Same with Linkin Park.
Any band that recently underwent a grand overhaul is part of the agenda and under full control of the labels

>>73917448
you forgot to mention the hipster thing, that's where they cut their teeth because they have that "indie" look to them that's marketable. theyre literally whole foods core.

>>73917468

The difference is that Hayley and her pretty face were the whole selling point of Paramore. She's literally the Taylor Swift of rock music.

Most rappers. Kendrick Lamar is a rare example of a plant that actually turns out to be good

>>73917496
same with CHVRCHES, she's an indie taylor switft

>>73917486
I don't see what's "hipster" about her if that even means anything. she literally looks and dresses like any other girl in her early 20s, absolutely nothing interesting to say in interviews. she's the polar opposite of, say, grimes who definitely has a quirky/hip act she puts on

>>73917501
I think prob all mainstream rappers at this point. Kanye might have been one of the last real rappers.

>>73905460
chance has had the most organic come up ever lmao. Hes been doing it since highschool and hes been completely independent his whole career. Hes literally an example of the opposite of an industry plant

>>73905465
>odd future
you're retarded

>>73909492
>Lana a plant
>fights her label on everything
>Iggy Azalea not a plant

Wow, you're a special kind of retard.

Radiohead.

>>73917560
Yeah, he started out wanting to be a jazz muscian for fucks sake.

>>73917560
please try harder. at least make it sporting shill

>>73917569
please. Anyone who believes in OF is a severe dummy

>>73917570
correct. Iggy is 100% a plant and a Kardashian like figure.

LDR not a plant. Azealia Banks not a plant.

>>73917547
it's deeply embedded in the culture, from what I can tell. especially with the feature system and how the audience is generally very short-sighted and driven by hype

>>73917582
wouldn't say that they're an industry "plant" in the strictest sense, but certainly got a hell of a lot of industry support after the fact. any band that untouchable there's obviously something going on

>>73917582
nah. Most likely a real band who got influenced to co-opted.

see also: U2


Coldplay however could def be straight up plants.

>>73917626
Uhh i wasnt shilling.... please explain how an artist that started by hustling mixtapes in his dorm and isnt signed to a label is an industry plant...cant wait to hear it

>>73917662
Anyone who believes that a kid from the Obama/Emanuel camp is anything other than a plant is so stupid that you might as well convince them of fairies or 72 virgins or whatever.

>>73917626
not odd future. their success and the fact they cover so many bases in one collective is kind of damning, but I got the sense it was just a mix of timing, luck and tyler being extremely smart and perceptive. I dunno, if it's a plant kudos to whoever thought all that stupid donut shit would actually be successful and managed to get it greenlit.

azealia banks, there's just no reason for her to be so well-known. tmz plant

>>73917778
kek. you really are terrible at this.

i'm totally fooled by your ruse

>>73917869
que

>>73917775
/thread

>>73917775
Is it a plant if the plant IS the industry?

>>73918133
*cough*DJ Khaled*cough*

>>73905579
mind if I swipe this for my vaperwave project?

>>73905304

If there is such a thing as industry plants, taylor swift is the prime example

>>73910598
People who make music but also disagree with me

>>73905465
correct except for OF, they came out of youtube obscurity

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>>73919457
>youtube obscurity

>>73909770
God she is so fucking ugly

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>>73919579
>she

>>73909574
exactly. he's only famous (I think) because he's been promoted and marketed. nothing unique.

>>73909574
>>73919658
*covering their tracks*

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>"industry plant" just means "musician i don't like"

never change /mu/

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>>73909574
>>73919658

>>73909770
papa franku?

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>>73909574
>RCA just scooped him up and said "WE'RE GONNA MAKE YOU A STAR KID!" And they did. I dunno.

>>73912914
What was the bridge in Brooklyn?

>>73919905
Answer this nigga

>>73919905
>>73921128
are you two being serious?

>>73913417
I think Lil Boat was sincere, but over the last year he's absolutely an industry tool. Doubt he has any major input in making his music.

>>73909770
False. She started from almost zero and learned her craft mostly by herself. By the time the indie label 4AD desperately wanted to sign her in she already had a lot of hype through word of mouth. People were impressed by her music.
BTW posting an ugly pic with her doesn't make you silly post true.

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>>73909770
FFS stop photoshoppng our grimey

DELET!

>>73921975
Yes. I'm curious

The word shill should be a boardwide permanent rangeban.

>>73919704

This is literally it. Noone is giving any evidence despite the fact that the artists who already had a big following blew the fuck up since they signed to a label which is THE FUCKING POINT OF A LABEL

inb4 le shill xD

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>>73917160
Stop spreading lies. On 4chan any dumbass could spread disinformation and everyone believes his crap.
Iain and Martin had a small side project for years and they asked Lauren to join that project after Iain produced an EP for Blue Sky Archives - Lauren's indie band at that time.
They're a legit indie band who just happened to make synthpop. They have their own studio and total artistic freedom. Their first single was posted on an indie blog and they didn't even have a label for many months. Also all 3 members were in indie bands: Iain was on Aereogramme and The Unwinding Hour, Martin was a touring member of The Twilight Sad and Lauren was a member of Girlfriend/Boyfriend and The Blue Sky Archives.
Only later they gained popularity that afforded them to buy better equipment and tour the whole world. Chvrches are actually more indie (independent) than 95% of indie artists. Next time, do your fucking homework.

>>73917345
>I mean they're not terrible but the hype is extremely disproportionate
The hype is well deserved. They do great synthpop. Your opinion is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

>>73923316
Yeah, that guy has no idea what he's talking about.

>>73923395
no matter what you do, how much weight you lose, how "better" you get. lauren will NEVER be in your life, and she will never be with you.

stop being an orbiter and get some fucking balls

>>73912415
>>In September 2012, The Weeknd signed with Republic Records
>>On 21 March 2011, The Weeknd self-released his debut mixtape,
>So again, he wasn't signed when he released his mixtapes

Why would they sign him before he releases the mixtape if they wanted it to seem genuine and authentic? They made it seem like he made it big on his own, then they signed him as if they had nothing to do with his rising popularity, despite putting all this money into him.

The plant is chosen and put in it's desired pot.

>>73906142
He's pointing at us

>>73923440
LEAVE BRANDON ALONE

>>73924080
He's not wrong.

>>73911333
Yeah really... By this definition even grips is an industry plant.

>>73924087
you faggot i was defending you.

no shit he's right, he was just asshurt

>>73923440
it's a joke everyone here knows that he wasn't going to end up with her

>>73924682
For a whole I did have that delusion, and I pulled myself out of it.

>>73905427
underrated post

>>73924707
You're a fucking trainwreck and everyone is laughing at you.

>>73917705
Are you seriously implying that Obama made Chance's career?

Literally he came up from touring with Gambino and having a good manager.

>>73924834
Fuck 'em.

>>73924891
I thought you were in jail

>>73925033
No, why would I be in jail?

>>73925077
Hear you vilated that restraining order?

>>73925134
lol, there's no restraining order to violate buttmunch.

>>73909574
El Paso fag here, the dude made one song, played no shows and suddenly he's recording in New York, getting play time on Beats 1 and on Kylie's Snapchat. He fucking reeks of industry plant. I wouldn't be surprised if his managers told him to push the El Paso shit since they knew everyone here would eat that shit up

>>73913417
Kendrick literally spoke up against ghost writers though
Not to mention eninem thought the same thing as you until they went into studio and watched him write a verse with no one else in the room

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>>73925457
>believing anything that comes from Interscope

Young the Giant

>>73913417
If Kendrick's being ghost-written by the "greatest writers in the world" then they're doing a pretty great job of covering it up. You could just as easily call Jay Electronica the "black Chaucer" or something and it'd be about as absurd.

>>73916601
She got lucky with a catchy single and white girls love her fake black voice

>>73925568
>>73925768
Hi Pajeet

you and your 'colleagues' are totally fooling us


Now go suck off Mr. Sheklestein.

Travis scott
Vic Mensa
Raury

Vic especially, his dad was an econ prof at UChicago and he used to rap in makeup and everything. All of a sudden he makes a complete 180 on his black militant phase acting like he's from the hood of Chiraq

>>73925816
This isn't an argument but at least you outed yourself as a blithering retard

>>73909598
Nice to hear from another ElPasofag here. ATDI forever.

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>>73917626
ACTUAL RETARD

GTFO MY BOARD

>>73917560 AINT LYING

YOU FUCK

>>73911946
wrong

>>73916601
She fucked ASAP Rocky

>>73905427
u got me there m8

>>73923183
>>73921975
>>73921128
>>73919905
>this nigga's just gonna leave us hanging

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most obvious

Lemon Twigs

Haim