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R A W

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9PI-jhybNU

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what are you blasting?

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>>73833048

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making this a regular thing will cultivate a shitposting culture that will degenerate into the self-quarantine that's /m****l/. i can understand a streak of threads every fullmoon or so but flying under the flag of a consistent generals should be kept special for november

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz-UA6rjQ8Q

Is there any bands that sound like this?

>>73833146
As much as I'd like to have more BM threads, you're sadly not wrong. I fucking hate this board.

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Post medieval Black Metal

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>>73833048

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>>73833340
>Not having Peste Noire on that chart

>>73831246
>svartidaudi
>garbage
eat poop my dude

>>73834544
you're already eating enough poop for the both of us if you like that garbage

>>73833048
first xasthur album rn

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Pretty cool war metal; was supposed to come out around the same exact time as Fallen Angel of Doom but was never released until 2011. I like the production on this more than either Blasphemy record as it also has a meatier mid and high end to go with the meaty lows.

https://nuclearwarnowproductions.bandcamp.com/album/sacrament-of-blood

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I know everyone already knows Graveland already, but I feel more people know them for the folkier black metal stuff of theres. Here's a demo released like a year before that I think, but it's all riffier black metal.

https://fpr666.bandcamp.com/album/graveland-the-celtic-winter

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Death Metal Underground's shit 99% of the time, but I thought they picked a pretty good AOTY back in 2014 with Sammath's Godless Arrogance. It's like Immortal's Pure Holocaust but next level insane.

https://hammerheart.bandcamp.com/album/godless-arrogance

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S.V.E.S.T. is that one band that had a split with Deathspell Omega, but their music is also really good. Sorta chaotic like DsO, but also more heavy and riffy? I tend to notice that people that dislike DsO for not having enough actual riffs tend to like S.V.E.S.T. if they still want something chaotic so worth checking out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvalS4bRp7A

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Pretty intense stuff. Each track averages about 2.5 minutes, with the first couples ones only being a minute or so long in actual length. Short bursts of crazy black metal stuff. Thanks to the guy who recced this to me in a chart thread a few days back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_dpBXNvgf0

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And I'll just post this Wrathprayer record as well because it doesn't get enough mentions and I personally love it. Teitanblood does caverncore is the I guess what it's like.

https://nuclearwarnowproductions.bandcamp.com/album/the-sun-of-moloch-the-sublimation-of-sulphurs-essence-which-spawns-death-and-life

>>73835176
DsO have done some amazing things of course but S.V.E.S.T. completely dominated them on that split
Veritas Diaboli is a masterpiece unlike anything we've seen in bm before or since

>>73835427
Their other stuff is great as well, which is why I recommend people check them out.

>>73835452
yep, all their material is awesome, sadly it's not a lot and they've been silent for close to a decade

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>>73833048

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKjeK5Hrjnc come on faggots, post some good fucking black metal

>>73836460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n46WTmVGhcU

Immortal - Pure Holocaust
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas
Emperor - In The Nightside Eclipse
Burzum - Det Som Engang Var / Hvis
Gorgoroth - Pentagram / Antichrist
Enslaved - Vikingligr Veldi
Dissection - Storm of the Lights Bane
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger / A Blaze in the Northern Sky
Sacramentum - Far Away From the Sun


These albums are still better than anything released after 1999

>>73836732
don't think i don't see you replacing ildjarn for dissection in that dmu list

>>73836880
I never connected to ildjarn, maybe I should try again

>>73834544
>hates Svartidaudi
>likes Mooncitadel and Forgotten Spell
Um excuse me? That nigga is based af.

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>>73833048
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkP25mpoASY

>>73837039
that is the exact anus list except dissection instead of mutiilation and ildjarn

ildjarn really is that good and the dmu endorsement isn't unjustified

>>73837178
I remember they had havohej there and that's pleb trash

>>73837199
oh yeah that too. paul ledney is dialing it in with profanatica nowadays but i think the havohej stuff is idiot savant black metal par excellence. kembatinan premaster is top 10 usbm to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI7w2mXybvo
άγιος ο Βαφωμήθ

>>73837117
I'm listening to that album right now

>>73833340
You forgot one of the most important bands currently putting out releases in this genre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEwtSMybrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQrxYycW4TM

and another significant contributor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h5SrFV4Gmo

But great chart my dude, im glad other people see this genre

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Is there such a thing as too many riffs? Should metal always adhere to a more poppy or more sonata form style structure?

https://encenathrakh.bandcamp.com/releases

>>73833340
>>73838880
corrected link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEwtSMybrcE

is mgla too mainstream? (^:

>>73839231
mmyeah

>>73839231
People who would be considered fans of "underground" metal used to fuck with Mgla pretty hard until Exercises In Futility came out and made the band relatively popular. For what it's worth, I still haven't listened to EIF (just haven't been in the mood), and With Hearts Towards None was pretty decent last I remember so idk why it happened. Did they water down their sound or something like Deathspell Omega did with Paracletus?

>>73839313
I have no idea, I like most underground or trve shit I hear but I don't actually follow any bands closely. Heard of mgla through exercises in futility and Im pretty unsurprised it's so popular, melodic and relatively accessible imo.

>>73838967
there is no objective reason for music to adhere to any style of prebuilt structure, even though alot of music and metal does. 'Sonata' style and others are systems devised hundreds of years ago and taught in schools and academies as the 'correct' way to write music.

If anything metal should tell you that there is really no need to abide by this structure, strictly or loosely. Lots of genre's flourish without this sort of framework like thrash and punk. Its really good when the riffs and tone come together but its not really always necessary

>>73839365
>>73839313
i dont know what labels they released on but it seems they got alot of exposure very quickly, i saw their stuff posted on reddit along with batushka.

wouldn't call it mainstream because mgla is pretty much in vain with modern american black metal bands like black breath, wolves in the throne room. its really a matter of exposure.

I guess they could be practically mainstream because they received so much exposure

>>73839365
They have always had that slight melodic bent. I always thought they sounded like a less intense version of Dissection or something based on WHTN. Accessible sound for sure though.
>>73839377
Well, I kinda brought those questions up because of the kind of riff assault style Encenathrakh do where there's non-existent structure and just one riff after the other. Opinions on them have been controversial among metal fans.

>>73838880
>>73838973
Do you have any more recs along these lines my dude? Like anything that has a strong medieval vibe or hell even just Dungeon Synth elements as well

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>>73837117
Amazing album

>>73833048
Not actually listening right now but this is what I was blasting earlier

Varg did literally nothing wrong. Euro was a psychopath and was going to kill him

>>73839538
yeah

>>73839422
It was on Northern Heritage, who were stepping stones for guys like Drudkh, DsO, SW, etc. but yeah not really a label with that much clout. Their current roster only has Clandestine Blaze that also has any renown at all. It's fascinating how they got so popular all of a sudden.
>>73839538
It's funny how all this anti-church, kvlt shit used to some extent be romanticized by 15 year old me getting into this mysterious new black metal thing. Now it's just cringeworthy as fuck, all of it.

Any newer bands playing aggressive/angry Black Metal with R I F F S?

thank

>>73839465
all of darkenholds albums are pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1SyIphOhYA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytf_VudE-hE

check out that chart and def listen to like every good summoning album for lots of horn toots and some good riffage

satyricon - dark medieval times and abigor's "invoke the dark age" has some good and very dark tones to it including great acoustic bits
https://youtu.be/RcOCXuHsg0k

as for medieval dungeon synth i recc these guys
https://oldtower.bandcamp.com/album/the-rise-of-the-specter

all of their releases are great

there is alot of dunsynth out there along similar lines but i dont know much of it

>>73839692
>all of darkenholds albums are pretty good
new one was pretty boring imo

>>73839680
Less raw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJr_PItcYp4
More raw - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59vT5Nq7j_A

When is the new Xasthur coming out?

>>73839714
you can take it or leave it. I really liked the emphasis on the acoustic passages, however they did recycle a melody from castellum and one of their tracks literally consisted of two guitars playing in disharmony to create a kind of dismal atmosphere. I think it was a great album and im gonna get it on vinyl. I can definitely say that its obvious they slowed the album's pacing down and went in a darker direction

The vocals across every album has been very shrill and raspy and i like it that way

post the most obscure bm you know no matter how crap it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ysgVU_Y5M

>>73839849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf8m-IPSXjM

>>73839771
I'm just saying, man. I though their stuff before was decent-to-good but the new one just feels uninspired.

>>73839849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcvFCUkzhTs

>>73839692
Yeah I listen to Summoning quite a bit, I also listen to a decent array of DS artists as well. Never heard of Darkenhold before and will be sure to check them out man thanks.

Also I recommend Hrossharsgrani

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mfw you fags didn't post the most brilliant BM album of all time

>>73839849
Probably this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFyKwulmmMY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ9o9j45wkE

>>73840089
This album fucking sucks

>>73840130

You're fucking nuts.

>>73840140
Nah, it's actually pretty terrible.

Why is half this thread full of cheesy ass folkshit? Start listening to actual metal for once, you losers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzKFa-dHbS8

>>73840263
>cheesy ass folkshit
muh pagan roots

>>73839849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNG_KFbXp8c

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>>73839465

>>73839886
>>73839968
>>73840100
>>73840512
>on youtube
>obscure

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>>73832987
where we go from here is a choice I leave up to you...

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>>73839538

>>73841428
Impaled Angel, how about that. It's an obscure as shit band that only has one live video from youtube and that's literally it. And if that doesn't please you how about the Desert Storm of Evil compilation that I own that I can't find anywhere digitally? Are you fucking happy now you little shit?

Why is BM separate from the /metal/ general?

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>>73832987

Needs moar bathtub

>>73842210

/shitposting/ general also pic kinda related

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>>73842447

>objectively

>>73842447
metal for your feel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DmtfBjD6Tk

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bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6qeDrBHGSo
this is pretty good, +1 to anon who posted it

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Blacklodge

>>73844159
2/3 have mongoloid features
behold the master race

>>73844926
That was me
this shit is the most brutal war metal I've seen

>>73846317
At least they're carrying on the genetic struggle of the white race, unlike refugee welcoming cucks who adopt niggers.

>>73846317
The guy in the middle looks like Jody Foster.

>>73846446
post face, Cletus.

>>73846601
>Everyone who disagrees with my egalitarian self hating post modernism is a 70 iq retard

>>73846601
fuck off nigger

>>73844926
I posted it in the previous topic with a collage pic that also had other artists since I posted a bunch of links. Not sure if you're talking about me, but either way I think you might like the Sammath and Wrathprayer stuff I posted earlier in this topic as well.

On a side note, according to some rumors supposedly confirmed on the NWN forums, Damaar members eventually converted back to Islam after death threats and shit from the IS.

>>73846651
Got the thread on that?

>>73846651
But they're from lebanon

>>73846621
>>73846623
>claim to be proud confident Übermenschen on a quest to preserve your heritage
>start screeching and aimlessly hurling slurs when someone pokes fun at a white guy on an internet forum
behold the master race, exhibit B.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbAo44uAEfU

>>73846755
You're either a self hating white, or a shitskin. Nothing wrong with insulting either of those.

>>73846755
>>73846777
trips > dubs

Satyricon and Demon Burger actually have decent debut albums. Great medieval sounding black metal.

>>73846804
Glittertind is an epic track

>>73846713
>>73846725
Can't find the exact thread, but you'll find references to it if you just search Damaar NWN. Theres also the "they moved to Australia and started the punk band Detox" thing as well.

Also IS definitely has presence in Lebanon it's not widely accepted like in Syria or Libya. While I think that particular part of the rumors is bullshit, I can see why IS would wanna come after something preaching anti-Islam stuff akin to Damaar.

>>73846818
Their songs were anti islam?

>>73833340
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/dunkelheit616/dark_medieval_times__medieval_black_metal/

>>73846818
>>73844926
>>73846443
Their release is #337 OVERALL on RYM, that's pretty funny

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this is such a fun fucking album. its nothing close to a masterpiece, but listening to this record is truly an experience

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Any of you guys like Dungeon Synth? It has a very similar atmosphere to black metal.

>>73846777
ask yourself which of the following is more indicative of self-hate:

1) basing the value of yourself and others on a set of genetic traits over which you had no control and taking any attack on someone with these traits personally, convincing yourself that all who disagree with you have some handicap instead of talking to them or moving on with your life

2) arguing that this doesn't make sense

>>73846902
That's nazgul right? Dem vocals

>>73846926
People who care about race and aren't 70 IQ mouthbreathers don't base their entire value on race, but simply see the importance of it when it comes to maintaining a healthy society and community.

I find it funny the left that pretends to be all about science and truth is in complete denial when it comes to the scientific reality of race.

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>>73833048
im ashamed to say it but i am unironically blasting unblack metal. i'm amazed at how literally a bunch of christfags managed to create such an epic symphonic black metal piece.

this thing obviously takes very large influences from Swedish and Norwegian third wave black metal acts like dissection and emperor, but unlike most symphblack bands, they managed to spice it up and remain original.
this has all the essentials of a black metal album, but its made by monotheists, i dont understand O.o

>>73846961
The best music of all time was made by christians.

>Every classical composer ever

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>>73833340
>Orkblut
massively underrated i think

this also has the perfect medieval vibes i think

>>73846842
Look at the name of the record and some of those track names.
>>73846870
337 EPs section not everything.

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>>73836732
except obsidian gate

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>>73846960
alright, I'm gonna leave before you bring out the calipers and start posting right wing tabloid-sourced crime charts. i've wasted my time reading way too many rambling white nationalist diatribes and they boil down to racial hate every time.

>>73847067
>Preaching for mass suicide

This could literally be pro islam

>>73847084
There's nothing not to hate about niggers, they are subhuman in every sense of the word.
I don't have a problem with other races if they stay in their own place.

No matter how uncomfortable it makes you, and how smugly intelligent you feel that being an egalitarian is, races differ greatly.

>>73847096
Not in the context of the rest of the record. Triumph Through Spears Of SACRILEGE. Ode to BLASPHEMY. The GoatPHOENIX (look up significance of Phoenix in Islam.) Pretty sure preaching is also like that as well, more pointing it out than supporting it.

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>>73842447
t.

>triggered by the fact that the majority of /mu/ users actually prefer raw, pagan black metal over everything else

>>73847202
Don't forget Onwards to the Gates of Meka

>>73847238
Good point, that one probs pisses off Islamic ppl the most.

>>73847070
You can't really think this goofy late 90s Dummi Burger shit is a classic
Germany is so shit at black metal, it's puzzling

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>>73847434
>dummi burger shit

you haven't heard this album, have you?

>>73837359
ρούφα τον πούτσο μου

>>73847434
>Germany is so shit at black metal, it's puzzling
nah, germany has amazing bm, you're either entry level af or have shit taste

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>>73833340
what are some artists similar to summoning that aren't caladan brood? I dont like em but i do love minas morgul
idk sojourner counts but i like pic related

>>73847084
I like how this guy dipped out as soon as he knew he was about to get rekt. Leftists always retreat from these conversations but it usually involves hitting the "block" button on twitter.

>>73847782
Avathar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5POIDQMRiME

>>73847824
>hurr durr *retard noises*
>"fuck off retard"
>"wow haha I sure showed that guy, he's running away, I truly am the finest of specimens"

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>>73846775
I checked these guys out a few weeks ago with pretty low expectations but I got decent pagan metal instead.

>>73846804
They're good but I always get a feeling it's bm for girls because my ex and some of her friends used to exclusively listen to it

Why do these threads always have some sort of political/racial attempts at "discussion" every time? Who cares about that stuff when it comes to MUSIC? I don't even think a lot of the actual artists care about this the way you guys do either. A lot of the hipsterish black metal was inspired by Burzum despite not being anywhere near each other in the realm of politics, and Burzum was inspired by a lot of techno which is a part of a music scene with opposite ideals to what Varg believes in.

Just enjoy the music, guys. Some of you care way too much about it's non-musical aspects.

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>>73847877
If you say so, princess.

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Mayhem is the best black metal band. You cannot prove me wrong. Something being "entry level" (a totally subjective term, since what leads a certain person to initially get to know a genre varies from individual to individual) doesn't affect or alter it's musical quality, nor its inherent traits, so stop and think before using a shitty fallacy as an ineffective non-argument.

>>73847956
>They're good
let me stop you right there

>>73847989
they're far from the best, they only have one truly great album
chimera is good, wolf's lair is good, grand declaration is almost salvageable

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>>73847989
Deathcrush is pretty badass, why so defensive/insecure though?

>>73847989
Nah, Mayhem's far from the best because they are so vanilla. Their non-vanilla aspects include a frog vocalist, a piss poor job at industrial sounds, and a piss poor job at copping the disomeme trend (although they did do it further back in 2007, but still no riff crap either way.)

>>73847989
You only like Mayhem because the mongrel Sami midget was a communist cunt like you

Fuck off

>>73848047
he wasn't a communist, he was just trying to be edgy and though stalin is just as edgy as hitler so he might as well
even varg says that he didn't actually care

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>>73847970
>Who CARES about religion lol, it's just ART

>>73848068
It is though. Like, I am pretty sure nobody goes to Sistine today to get close to god, most of those tourists were there to check out the amazing art.

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>>73847970
>Who cares about the barbarians at the gates, just enjoy the ART

>>73847991
Both are solid symphonic bm bands, really nothing wrong with liking them if youre a girl

>>73848089
It doesn't take away the real meaning and love of god behind those works, and what inspired them to be created. Your life isn't a compartmentalized drawer.

>>73848063
Pretty sure Varg also mentions that he was butthurt because everyone in the metal scene was nazi-light which made him feel like an outcast, something about him disagreeing with Hellhammer's racist remarks too

>>73848100
the opinions/tastes of girls are irrelevant, they're barely human
also you can probably deduce that something is garbage if the majority of its fanbase is female

first satyricon album is passable, nowhere near the masterpieces of 2nd wave norwegian scene, just an ok album that is a bit cheesy
what followed (and the entire discography of dimmu borgir) is UNMITIGATED garbage, if you have even an ounce of respect for it or enjoy it in any capacity you're a false and should immediately end your pathetic existence or never think about black metal again

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>>73848140
well wasn't he a lappi? and it seems that they weren't treated very well (we've seen racist remarks against euronymous from varg himself)
so maybe he was a bit triggered
>he thinks michelangelo believed in god

>>73847863
not bad desu but im not sure how i feel about the death metal vocals or whatever it is
thanks though

How much metal do you guys listen to a day?
How do you fucking find the time?

>>73848153
> you can probably deduce that something is garbage if the majority of its fanbase is female

I can agree with that, but Im pretty sure you're just a fucking faggot who hates them because they're both liked by normies

>>73848112
But none of that fucking matters though in the context of the art. It's either part of what the artist was inspired by (so not important to the actual art at hand) or it's in the lyrics or something (something also non-musical.) Most of Justin Beiber's songs for example are like about wanting to get with chicks and stuff, yet despite that his music gives certain kids a lot of love/inspiration or emotional ecstasy even though they can't or don't care about the subject of his tracks thus why he is one of the most requested Make A Wish celebrities.

The "real meaning" is bullshit especially when it comes to interpretations of more abstract art to the extent that is music.

>>73848231
At least 3 hours, more if i get a half day at work

>how do you find the time?
You kidding me son?

>>73848289
You're trying to convince me not to care about meaning behind art by talking about justin bieber and little kids appreciating his glorious work.

I'm totally convinced now, wtf I don't care about lyrics and ideology anymore.

>>73848297
>t. Deadbeat with a shitty job
Why are metal fans all such loser types?

>>73848231
>get up
>listen to some underground shit that nobody ever heard about with the one-man band killing himself while recording it
>then fire up some Burzum - Sad Forgotten Lost Spirit
>go to ThuleanPerspective
>listen to Varg talk about killing Euronymous for the 297th time while holding a baby and repairing his car
>eat my cereals while they're still crispy
>fire up some The Summoning - Mirdautas Vras in the background
>get ready for the gym with some Carpathian Forest - Shut up there's no excuse to live while putting my corpse paint on
>start up with some Temnozor while doing squats
>droll black bile over the place while normies look at me in disgust
>accidentally go to the female shower and accidentally rape an old woman while Nattefrost - Whore is playing in the background
>go home and shitpost on 4chan while calling everyone poser faggots even when they list good bands that I often listen to

>>73848231
I'm a piece of shit NEET who listens to music all fucking day, son

>>73848364
No, I am saying that the so called "meaning" has little to do with the art itself, and author's intention doesn't really matter.

There's no way you can for example...listen to Arghoslent/GBK and tell me the "meaning" in terms of their anti-Semitic stuff without relying on non-musical stuff like lyrics. Analysis of their music would also be about their progression of riffs and riffing style as well. There's nothing about Arghoslent's/GBK's melodic riffing style that says tongue in cheek anti-semitism or w/e.

>>73848492
Fanisk does

>>73848492
Understanding the artists intent and philosophy behind the creation of an artwork, despite not necessarily being inherent to the craftwork behind the piece, is an important aspect of gaining a full understanding of what the artist was trying to convey.

>>73848492
Lyrics are part of the music, the band itself even stated how every phrase and every word they utter is said and placed in the right place and time and way according to the rest of the music.
Besides that, the motivations and meaning of a work matter.

If you want to enjoy things only on their surface, style over substance, like a little kid listening to justin bieber, go ahead. But don't try to drag me down.

>>73848449
>go home and shitpost on 4chan while calling everyone poser faggots even when they list good bands that I often listen to
iktf

>>73848522
How? Synthy riffs has nothing to do with their NS crap.
>>73848534
But that doesn't matter? Look at why Bradbury wrote F451 vs the popular interpretation. Or what Lemmy thinks his music is vs what others think his music is.

Music is music. Not religion. Not politics. Not gossip. Not poetry. It's music.

>>73840130
imagine being this edgy

>>73847824
Does the internet meme phrase "getting rekt" mean listening to "I hate niggers" and "kill yourself commie" until you decide to stop losing brain cells? There is nothing to be gained in a "conversation" in this case. Whether or not a human deserves hatred based on factors outside their control is more of an axiomatic difference than something you can resolve through debate. I suppose you could make some progress at it by reading foundational philosophical texts, but something tells me the "I am proud to hate niggers" crowd isn't into this. They seem to prefer the much simpler solution of dismissing all academics who disagree with them as "cucks" or something.

A crude analogy would be yelling that the earth is flat on a street corner and ticking a list for everyone who ignores you.

>>73848563
Lyrics are poetry not music. They don't mean jack shit to those that don't understand them. And no, motivations don't matter. The literal definition of art is based on OTHERS observing the completed work, not the creators or why they wanted to make it.

I like music for its musical qualities. Not some shallow non musical shit others put onto it. Riffs, progression, rhythms, melodies, harmonies, etc.

>the band itself even stated how every phrase and every word they utter is said and placed in the right place and time and way according to the rest of the music.
Like all music ever? Doesn't support your point.

>>73848610
Music is an art. Listening to it requires no thought, like looking at a painting. You can hear a piece of music and go "hey this sounds good" and keep listening to it and leave it at that. You can also look into the lyrics and find meaning in them (lyrics are most certainly a form of poetry), and you can also look at the song structure and things such as that. You can form your own personal opinions about the music, and everyone is entitled to their own, and they can be completely separate from what the author intended, who cares. But the fact of the matter remains that when the art was being created the author was intending to create something for a purpose, and understanding that purpose is important to understanding the art behind the music.

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>>73848679
>They don't mean jack shit to those that don't understand them.
What the fuck should I care about some animals that don't understand the lyrics? They're part of the work, accept it faggot.

A new Negative Plane album this year would really tide me over for a while. Too much cookie cutter black metal, I think the last release that didn't bore me was Cultes des Ghoules

>>73848492
From Assyrian chains to the windswept plains
Of ancient Palestine
Our Heaven's found
Behold the sight
Dominion we've found
Recite the ninth rite...

So Joshua smote the land
Cleansed of the kings and their scribes
Reclaim thy hallowed ground
For thy Lord God
Israel

Immersed in the meaning of the era's end
Dueling over sovereignty of holy sand
Talmudic rats roam the Judean plain
As vagabonds inherit years of pain


This isn't tongue in cheek anti semitism, it's very well written.

>>73848774
It's also really boring

>>73848691
And that intention doesn't matter because art is art based on the observations of non creators. It's everyone's own personal experience with art that does.
>>73848700
They aren't part of the music though. Just the vocal aspect of they are. Lyrics will never be part of the music and considering it part of music is disingenuous.

>>73848774
>that
>well written
Hahahahahah

>>73848818
Art should be put in a context where both how it is viewed and the author's intent are taken into consideration, otherwise you are just being willfully ignorant about the piece and its history.

>>73848661
>Whether or not a human deserves hatred based on factors outside their control is more of an axiomatic difference than something you can resolve through debat

You're completely wrong. Communism isn't a factor outside of your control, it's an idealistic fairy tale for idiots who want to turn the human nature into the nature of the ants. A completely soulless and illogical ideology that tries to destroy everything that makes us human which includes tribal/ethnic belonging, national pride, traditions etc.

Basically only extremely stupid or people suffering from severe mental illness can become communists.

Being born black doesn't mean you have to be a nigger. Being a nigger has to do with a disgusting culture and an even worse slave mentality. I don't hate a person because he's black, I hate him because he's a useless inferior entitled organism that makes everything worse for everyone around him. And when the majority of people are niggers, I consider every black a nigger by default until proven otherwise.

>>73848835
Great point
>>73848807
No, it's a great song.

>>73848818
You're a degenerate reductionist and I'm not interested in being like you.

goddamn, I'm addicted to play inno a satana on the guitar, what a beautiful song
>>73848753
cultes des ghoules is garbage
>>73848246
wow /mu/ has me all figured out once again
what a shitty fucking defense for anything
"you just hate it cause it's popular"
then why don't I hate Burzum and Mayhem and Darkthrone and DsO and Mgla?
Retard.

>>73848850
Any nigger, regardless of behavior, does not belong in europe.

And niggers as a race have 70 iq average, this sort of subhuman animal does not deserve to be treated as anything else than that, even if there are a few niggers smarter than the average white.

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>>73848850
It's pure coincidence that blacks have lower IQ than any race and have ruined 50+ countries that they got to control.

>>73848837
They aren't though. Again, you're going on about history and all this shit that has nothing to do with someone's direct experience with the art nor a direct analysis of the actual qualities of the art.
>>73848873
No, I am logical and not fucking retarded. I won't let something else fuck with enjoyment of art, because I am not that shallow.

>>73848850
>Being born black doesn't mean you have to be a nigger.

This might be the case in the US because many American blacks have some white ancestry but in Africa it's literally just low IQ niggers.

>>73848905
You're pretty much entirely disregarding the field of art history and I have no idea how to respond to this level of stupidity anymore to be honest.

>>73848887
The point is that if an individual isn't a nigger, he wouldn't be coming to Europe.

He'd be improving his own country and bettering his people by being a good man himself. But instead he chooses to be a nigger because it's much easier getting on a boat and then getting gibs me dats from idiotic European leftists than bettering himself.

>>73848918
Dude, just be like the kids enjoying justin bieber

That's his argument

>>73848905
>No, I am logical and not fucking retarded
You're completely illogical and very retarded. You're saying that lyrics aren't a part of the music, but lyrics=vocals and vocals are a part of the music. Art is the whole pictures and you're supposed to enjoy it with every sense, not pick it apart like a dirty mongrel.

>>73848918
Art history is HISTORY, not ART. Again, stop talking about stuff that has nothing to do with the actual qualities of the art work itself.
>>73848937
>doesn't even mention the Bradbury example because he knows I am right
>>73848957
No, lyrics are the meaning of the words being said. Vocals would be say...the growls and their pitch/rhythm/delivery style of a death metal track.

Unlike you, I won't automatically disregard great music because I disagree politically with it.

>>73849013
I won't disregard it, but appreciate it less. You on the other hand, don't even take it into consideration, like a base animal.

>>73848850
I didn't say that belief in communism was a factor outside one's control. I didn't say I was a communist. I'm not a communist. You are inventing a reality based on multiple false assumptions and working yourself into a rage over it.

The last part of your comment directly implies that you hate black people because they're black btw. What are you trying to prove by not admitting it?

>>73849013
>The author's intent, philosophy behind why he created the work, and the world in which the piece was created are not relevant qualities to a piece of art

Holy shit you are fucking stupid

>>73849030
>apppreciate it less
Exactly.
>>73849045
Again, more historical stuff than direct qualities of the art itself.

Neither of you guys are true music fans. I don't think any of these SJW/alt-right types are

>>73849134
You're view of art is very limiting and I feel very sad for you that you reduce it down to what is perceived by a viewer and incorporate absolutely nothing else into the mix.

>>73849134
>Exactly.
Wow, you got me there!

>>73849037
I used commies and niggers because that's what you mentioned in your post.

Do you have a problem with reading comprehension? What I clearly said is that when the majority of blacks you meet act like niggers, it's safe to think that every future individual you meet can be assumed to be a nigger by default until proven otherwise.

Nobody hates niggers because they have black skin, there are overwhelming other differences like a different facial structure, mannerism, their attraction to a disgusting culture(like I mention in the previous post), general laziness, lower IQ, no desire to improve, victim and slave mentality, expectations to be pampered and taken care of while they spit on you and blame you for everything when you turn around etc. Pair all of this with low desire for some general education and you get a perfect example of a primal materialistic subhuman piece of shit.

Are there exceptions? Naturally. But they're like specks of sand flowing into an ocean of shit. And they'd understand why I hate their entire race because they probably do too.

>>73849134
What you're doing is looking at art through a keyhole and yelling how everyone else is wrong, when in reality everyone else already had enough sense to actually open the door.

>>73849158
No, my view of art is the artwork itself. Nothing else.
>>73849160
This isn't some competition?
>>73849257
No, I understand that those other things exist as aspects of the artistic mediums. But they don't have jack shit to do with direct experience of the art itself. An art major is different from an art history one as well with the latter being a specialization of history a totally different medium.

>>73849394
Knowing more about a piece can make you enjoy it more, how the fuck does this have nothing to do with direct personal experience?

>>73849394
They only don't have jack shit to do with it because you willingly choose to pretend that.
They're there, they're not separate from it, they're not someone elses opinion in someone elses song, they have everything to do with the artist and work.

>>73849213
Ok, I will spell it out for you. Your claims:
>Enough black people are niggers that I assume they are all niggers.
>I hate niggers because fuck 'em.
Put the two together. Your default reaction to a black person is hate. That is what I meant to claim. Parsed as literally as possible, "I hate black people because they're black" is a completely trivial and unrealistic claim that would fall apart if you just supposed that black people had blue skin instead. Not assuming the dumbest possible interpretation of what someone says is a core principle of good-faith debate.

The rest of your comment is just vitriol which makes me concerned about your mental health. Hope you're doing ok. I hope that someday you will test your hypothesis by making earnest attempts to get to know some black people. I understand you'll just see this as patronizing bullshit but I hope you think about what this dedication to hate is doing for you as a person. I wouldn't reply if I didn't care.

>>73849413
Yes, but knowing, in our context, more MUSICAL aspects is what gives the piece actual depth/enjoy ability. Not some shit about the artist's own political views.
>>73849416
I don't choose to pretend it. Riffs, growls, etc. Has nothing to do with politics. Same way Mass In B Minor's counterpoint, harmonic progression, melodic development, choice of arrangement, dynamics, etc. Is independent of the fact that it was commissioned by Catholic Church. Hell, Bach himself was Protestant and only did it cuz commisssions.

>>73849519
>Bach himself was Protestant and only did it cuz commisssions.
What a slut

>>73849519
There is much much much more to music besides the composition aspects to the music itself and the political beliefs of the author, and yes knowing about them can directly influence how you perceive the music and how you enjoy it.

For example, learning that an artist committed suicide can often change how one perceives art created by them.

>>73849475
There's no reason not to stereotype when so many of a group are trash. It serves you no benefit to your own group.

>>73849555
Only if you are shallow as fuck and incapable of understanding music itself.

>>73849602
This is a complete and total non-sequitur

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>>73849475
>99% of niggers are retarded criminals/vapid welfare queens
>"Yeah but one day you'll meet a good one and that'll make up for the 99% ruining your country"

>>73849630
Dude, you're the one claiming the 99% figure. I'm suggesting that you try to verify this. Again, you have distorted the argument into one that is trivial for you to win.

I am neither Jewish nor a Zionist.

>>73849714
Every

Single

African

Country

>>73849616
No its not. It's typical "I listen to music but am not actually into music" diatribe that the two people that argued with me have brought up. That's why they give non musical stuff so much importance. The more one listens to it the less they care.

>>73848610
>Look at why Bradbury wrote F451 vs the popular interpretation
can you direct me?

>>73849475
>dedication to hate
There is no dedication to hate here in the sense that you're probably seeing it. When I say hate I specifically refer to a general sense of disdain, dislike, antipathy call it what you want because of negative emotions associated with the subject(niggers).

It's a similar feeling to what I feel towards cancer.I don't feel anything positive because it has no positive function.

>hurr durr your mental health
Stop being a passive aggressive mongoloid faggot and either reply with something relevant or not at all.

>>73846914
yes. I am and I just got the Mortiis – Fodt Til Å Herske Mortiis Self-released Promotape. I am so happy about this. I got it from a friend who used to run a zine back in the 94 or something. I bought two boxes with blackmetal related tapes from that time for only 2 kg of gelatine candy. I am so happy. I do not even like blackmetal. I got Emperor Wrath Of The Tyrant self released tape also. I bought it all for the dungeon synth treasures I knew I would find.

----

Regarding Dungeon Synth. Also check out dungeon noise on bandcamp. https://bandcamp.com/tag/dungeon-noise
Alder Deep and Tyrannus are worth listening to if you are into dark stuff. I myself is on there to but everyone gets so upset when i do promoting outside bandcampthread so I will not.

>>73847740
Or you just have low standards

>>73847989
They were only good for a short period of time and barely played what you could call black metal

>>73847956
>>73847991
>they're good

Woah I was only talking about Dark Medieval Times and For All Tid. The rest of their discographies are complete shit.

How do you NSers feel that niggas have made far more relevant music than your crappy derivative as fuck takes on generic metal with nazi vocals? Hip hop has always been more culturally relevant than weak ass nazi metal/nazi punk. Jazz actually set the basis for which your shitty right wing bands have their rhythm section so that's not even a competition. Not a single one of you right wing types ever made true art stuff either. The only respite you guys have is a black metal thread where you guys post your tired ass nsbm that's not only pussy as fuck compared to the best stuff in the genre, but cliche as fuck as well.

Are Americans the only people capable of making warm-sounding BM? Scandinavian and Eastern European BM just doesn't go well with this weather.

>>73851022
only niggers and kikes care about relevance

>>73851062
no, Mediterranean black metal is warm

>>73851062
American black metal is just warm BM (bowel movement)

black metal should not sound warm.

>>73850945
for all tid is garbage, I bet you haven't even listened to it and just parrot other people who say "yea dimmu borgir are pretty bad but the first two albums are awesome and real bm" no they fucking aren't, they were sellouts making goth metal from day one
>>73851062
beherit is the warmest band of the classics and they're from finland

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Currently blasting
RHINOCERVS - [RH-12]
becuase it's a 10/10 record.
Fite me, it's true.

Also looking for recs similar to pic related. Thanks in advance you grim fucks.

>>73851169
Yeah, meanwhile the master race tries to be irrelevant, forgotten, and weak, right?

>>73851279
If anyone is parroting opinions it is you. I bet you're one of those kids who is new to black metal and just repeat whatever you hear elitists say.

>>73851391
>literally just "no you" the post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_0xtdcLSko

>>73846926
Neither. Are you fucking stupid.

>>73847782
Abigor is just the satanic version of Summoning.

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>>73851336

It truly is hard to find dsbm as angry as Xasthur and Leviathan. . .

>>73848449

>>>listen to Varg talk about killing Euronymous for the 297th time while holding a baby and repairing his car

fucking lol'd.

is anyone else not listening to bm during summer but just making a november backlog?

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>>73853892

Fck that november shit!, the only reason I'm not listening to black metal that much is because I've been listening to black people with Gangsta Boo and Da Mafia 6ix (and then summoning :3)

>>73853892
What kind of poser are you?

https://rateyourmusic.com/~Rhodesian_Warrior

Post your rym if you're not a pussy
>inb4 >rym

>>73854031
i just like to listen to music depending on weather and time of the year and day
rn im mostly listening to post punk and krautrock

>>73854068
Listen to music you like all year round or forever pose.

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>>73854038
I only use it to make lists, rating stuff seems like an insane hussle
I tried once but realized I'd have to add 95% of my classical collection to the database myself to rate it so fuck that bullshit
https://rateyourmusic.com/~SmotherTheresa

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>>73854038

> We do not use rym, it is too. . . . digitalmmmm . . .

>>73854227
>top black metal album is tagged as ambient
?

>>73839849
Forsaken Vulture

Is Darkspace the pinnacle of atmoshit?

>>73854659
it belongs to the black metal canon in my opinion, even if it's in its own forsaken corner

and if you mean that it's not representative of the genre enough to be my nr1, don't pay TOO much attention to the ranking, basically the top 30-35 albums are my favs and the rest is in kinda random order

>>73836732
Why does anyone think Nightside is the best Emperor record?

>>73854962
t. Ihsahn

>>73854962

I would have said because it was one of the earliest symphonic influences to a lot of others while most other bm releases at he time were cold and black. I'd put it with For all Tid but not many like that album as much as I do, then there was Sventavith from behemoth which while not as large nightside, still had some similar writing styles I think, but most people look at grom for nostalgia and blow bm behemoth off the table. Everything emperor did after nightside was epic, it just wasn't the cliche that a lot of people liked

>>73854962
Because they're plebs, Anthems is the way to go.

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>>73855051
Objectively Anthems or pic related.

>>73855080
aye

>>73855051
I prefer anthems to nightside too but nightside ain't bad, it has some amazing songwriting and the sound is still more black metal (despite the overbearing keys) which a lot of people prefer

>>73855105
None said it was bad, on the contrary, it's jut that Anthems is a better album overall

>>73848463
Neet with no seeds

>>73848231

Pretty much a few albums in the morning on my public transit ride to my college and before class, but I will change to rap some times. I'll play some songs on my transit back and I'll listen some before bed. I hate to say I'm not as exploratory as I use to be, I can actually count on two hands how many cds I've bought in the past few months, like what the hell's wrong with me?

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>>73856084

>no seeds
> seeds
> god seed

it was a good album, and shit. . . .

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>>73851062
Czech metal is pretty ''''warm'''' and so is Brazil metal.

>>73856979

Eldamar is pretty warm even though it's ambient lustre/summoning-esq stuff

Is there any post punk influenced black metal?

Or vice versa

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>>73846914
Dungeon synth fuels my eternal quest for unholiness and lewdness

>>73859136
>and lewdness

explain

>>73847782
You should definitely check out Elffor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X52fGRHN53o&t=1204s

>>73859170
More or less just quoting the liner notes from Mantar's demo "Wrath of Hornuk the Great." They're really outrageous, but the music itself is so good. Currently my favorite ds release. Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1c7UrP3HXU

>>73859409
>supports rapes, murders and terrorists

wew

infernal hails

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>>73854833
Either Darkspace or Midnight Odyssey.