/prod/

https://clyp.it/yublq1va

https://clyp.it/uacbpuh1

two little doodles
hey guys

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y'all done forgot the discord.

Comfy /prod/: https://discord.gg/3HV5BX

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https://clyp.it/otrmwcnb?token=f222a28988b77a09c5ad1023f67e6564

Still working on it

TAKE A GIANT DUMP ATOP THIS MOTHERFUCKING BUMP, BITCH

https://clyp.it/vbfk2zv3

Pls rate, also - Does anything sound off key here?? I don't have a good ear but I think I fucked up my piano roll science


>>73825138
>https://clyp.it/yublq1va
the pad sounds weirdly timed to me.
the drums changed up at one point right? I didn't feel that brought anything to the track, I mean, it's a change but it didn't add intensity or anything. That aside, I liked them

>https://clyp.it/uacbpuh1
Didn't really feel this, guess it's not for me.

Thoughts?
https://clyp.it/slxrhlhk

>>73825847
>https://clyp.it/vbfk2zv3
Some off notes in the intro, but its actually okay imo. Drums are a bit too loud in the mix. Nice drum programing tho.

>>73825847
Keys sound good. Other guy was right about the mix. I'd like to hear how this sounds with the same drum pattern turned way down with some reverb on it. Right now it seems like the lead keys and the drums are fighting for dominance.

>>73826861
I dig the songwriting generally, but the production is kinda odd. Vocals seem to be more distorted than anything else, which is strange to hear on top of more calm guitar and drums. I'd think about either distorting everything or turning down the distortion on the vocals.

One of my new songs here.
https://clyp.it/xok3sy0n
Any feedback would be great. I think the song would be improved with a more dynamic bassline, but I'm not 100 on how to do that.

>>73826861
Drums could be louder. The Vocal distortion has some harsh frequencies at times and is crowding the mix a bit. Honestly this is a really good song and great arrangement, but i think recordings are a bit sloppy. Guitar could be tighter on the grid, especially during the chorus. The vocal verse parts are kinda weak and lack confidence, doesn't make the lyrics very believable..Though some vocal chorus parts do sound more concise and thought out, maybe use those as a reference for additional vocal takes.

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Hit me with some feedback boii

>hip hop

https://clyp.it/g0gamcn2

>>73827013
>https://clyp.it/xok3sy0n
i actually really dig this.
reverb might sound better with more space.
snares and block sounds are too loud.
what if you dropped the kick down an octave or 2?

>>73827013
I like it, but I think the hihats, at least the parts that are straight 8th notes don't have enough variation/ space to bring out the potential the song has

really like 3:34 to the end

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https://clyp.it/c0yf4fa3

I know that the vocals are pretty quiet and off beat occasionally, ill fix it in the final release. just wanna see what you all think of the rough draft
>>73825138
those remind me of Aphex Twin, I like it
>>73825281
pretty dandy, noice
>>73825847
very nice drum programming

>>73825281
sounds just like an old 8bit classic game theme song, but I cant place where I've heard it.

Good writing though, are you proficient enough on piano to perform it?

>>73827459
I think your vocals could use a little bit of compression/ be lower in the mix and I'd like to hear the kick in more of the song, but its cool.

>>73827333
Reverb on what?

>>73827363
You think they should be more complex, like at the end?

Thnks guys

>>73827459

>>73826861
Its dope, I really like this

where can I find more of your stuff?

>>73827669
no quite the opposite of that

the end is sick

>>73825847
pad is weirdly timed but isnt syncopated

>>73827314
>>73827363
>>73827508
>>73827583
>>73827678

I made the mistake of not putting the feedback in my first post, check out my song anyway?

How difficult is it to build your own synth? A friend of mine is trying it right now and it seems like a reasonable idea.

I'm looking for a good synthesizer but I don't want to have to drop a lot of money on one and I'm sick of having no luck with Craigslist.

>>73827765
am also curious, anyone here have knowledge on this subject?

>>73827314

>>73827013 here

Tremolo on the vocals bums me out. I like the piano riff but don't care for the piano sound. I'd like to hear it with some different instruments.

>>73827765
Assuming you're thinking of a kit with a few hundred components, then the equipment needed to build the unit properly ends up being decently expensive mostly from the oscilloscope but you'd also want a good soldering iron and a tip kit as well. If you're an amateur or complete beginner at soldering it's likely you'll damage components in the process and won't be able to troubleshoot the issues you're going to make. There are plenty of good synths that go for under 500, which is less than any kit+soldering iron would cost you anyways.

>>73827854
That's unfortunate. But kinda what I expected though.
There's a synth on Craigslist that I've had my eye on for a while that's like 400 but I just bought a bunch of new gear and I still don't have a bass amp so I'm trying to be conservative with my budget. It's a pain.

How do you deal with adding (computer generated) guitars to your songs?
Reggae-like stabs, or acoustic guitar strumming

>>73827894
Depends on what music you're looking to make but the ms20 mini, bass station 2, minilogue, and minibrute are all modestly priced for an intro synth. If you were looking at cheap vintage stuff (early digital mostly) around that price, I'd say you'd be likely to end up with something rigid and cheesy sounding that may not even be fully functional. Almost all "good" vintage analogs go for 1k+, but some of the rackmounted FM/digital units can be yours for under 200. Best example being a TX81Z, but at that point you may be able to use software more easily considering almost all of them are difficult to program with their limited user interface so it won't be the "hands on" approach you were looking for.

>>73827833

Tremolo on the vocals?

not sure what you mean

>>73827985
sample real guitar and pitch shift, computer generated guitar always sounds awful

>>73828037
computer generated slap bass on the other hand..

>>73828037
>sample real guitar
Whole strumming pattern or just one note?

>>73828177
to get realistic strumming you have to use at least part of a real strumming pattern, which is not to say you can't chop it to get some variations.

For a reggae type sound, I would just take single hits, put them on the beats you want, and pitch accordingly.

so in the headphones I'm mixing on, you can hear the bass fine, and it's at a perfect level for the mix, but then when I try to play the song on some cheap phone headphones or on a bluetooth speaker, I can't hear the bass at all. How can I make sure it's heard on everything without fucking up the mix?

>>73828358
put more mids in the bass sound

redpill me on bitwig

>>73827013
>>73826898
>drums are a bit too loud
If anything I would have thought they are too quiet, since they are the centerpiece of the track.. might be because of my setup tho, on laptop right now.

Here is a mix with lowered drums and added reverb: https://clyp.it/gjpjiobb
Can you hear the distinct sound of Fruity Reeverb? lmao

>>73827459
>very nice drum programming
thank

nice synth sound on your clyp, I'm shitty at that part of production desu. I didn't dig the vocals though.

>>73827013
Nice waveforms. You've fucked with the pitch on the vocal sample right? I think the track kinda meanders in the middle though

So I'm learning FL studio right now


why can't I CTRL-Z-undo VST changes

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>>73828730

You need to enable it in the settings panel

>>73828803
I see, thanks

>>73828803
>I could have been doing this this entire time
I knew i should have read the manual

pleb question

i'm starting to make sample-based music in reaper but all the tutorials i can find on youtube for working with samples are for using sample libraries to make drumbeats &c
is there a good tutorial for working with samples in the avalanches, dj shadow et al type sense? also should i be using samplomatic or just importing the files straight into the track

>>73825091
>>73828603
>>73827894

I've been working on this gem for a week or more now, my biggest accomplishment in mastering FM synthesis so far, does this sound passable for a Drum and Bass bass sound?

https://clyp.it/y1rlhqlc

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>>73827765
>How difficult is it to build your own synth?
I've been interested in building my own synths and effects now for a while. This year I bought myself a antex 25w soldering iron for £25 and a set of different shaped small tips for £12 I think I also got a digital volt meter for £10 and a helping hand holder with built in magnifier and light £20.
I built a couple of maplin noise generator kits and then moved on to building some effects pedal kits and was going to build a synth but decided to do it in smaller hits and go for DIY eurorack modules pic related that's what I've built so far this year...and so far I've had 100% success rate every module has worked first time.
The good thing about DIY modular is you can obviously choose what filters and oscillators etc you build your synth up from, plus buying a module at a time costs less than buying a whole DIY synth, plus if you fuck something up it'll be easier to troubleshoot or if you fuck it completely then you've just fucked one module, plus module building will be never ending so you'll end up with a wall of super synth in a few months time ;)

(Pic related) it's what I've built so far

>>73829475
There's plenty of ways for you to change up each layer of the bassline sonically but I don't hear that being fully taken advantage of. You can look into playing with vocoders to get something similar but distinct. It's good, but definitely needs another sound to accompany it in the low end as a reprieve, even if it's just for the end of your phrases. Sounds very Mefjus/Neosignal if that's what you were going for, and quite impressive for something on /prod/. If you need small quirky "modular-like" sounds, you'd be surprised at what you can get out of small blips and bleeps with Soundtoys Crystallizer or the H3000 emulators. Good luck.

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Are there any must have DAW controllers / midi controllers? Anything that will genuinely make it easier to produce better results?

I've already got a fully-fledged 88 key digital piano, plus pic related

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Lovely /prod/ thread here, good evening gentlemen

>>73829830
I've been at this audio production thing for almost 8 years now, since I was 12. Surprisingly enough, to create that "bass" sound, all I did was modulate the frequency of a square wave operator using a sine wave op at 2000hz in the FM matrix parameters

>all those years wasted learning how to play piano and guitar instead of learning how to actually make songs

>>73830015
The methods are never difficult in practice, finding them is always the hard part.

>>73830083
Yeah, that's what I got out of all these years, creating these kinds of sounds is just pure experimentation

>>73828358
Headphones generally can reproduce very low bass frequencies, whereas average consumer speakers cannot without a sub.

Also the acoustic of the room your in will change the sound of the bass depending on how the room is treated acoustically. Headphones don't have that problem

>>73830015
Did you try adding a ton of distortion

>>73830136
Yeah, but I tried not going overboard, I even added a bit of LFO to move sine operator level around a bit and Chorus to the mix and this ended up being the result

>>73830136
You actually want the low parts of it to remain relatively clean, since it would just muddy it up and sound farty if you added in a bunch of extra harmonics.

>>73830259
NO you can eq the top end out if necessary but dist or saturation thickens up bass good, everyone knows that

Thoughts? https://clyp.it/vwte0ns4?token=b06dcba3f1730378e4000b3620831c21

>>73827314
Sounds pretty good I can dig it but I would take off the auto tune

>>73825281
It reminds me of Scott Joplin I like the ragtime theme

>>73825138
Not a big fan of the first song's drums I would change them imo
the second one is kind of lacking it needs a little bit more wavy stuff and aggressive synths

>>73827459
I like the song it reminds me of a video game and the 1980s synths nothing is wrong with it

https://clyp.it/vrznyita

yo

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Ok dudes if I have an old amp with rca red and yellow hookups, will I be fine with just these two pieces of equip?

What's the general concept of slicing up vocals to use them as short single notes?

Say for instance the intro of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQnC1UHBvWA


I assume you're not actually manually slicing up your vocals, is there some kind of general category of VSTs for that kind of effect?

does anyone know how to make the grime lead at 0:29 and modulate it to the level that Asa and Sorrow do in this track? it's a pretty well-known purple dubstep / grime sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDvKOCxh35Y

>>73830989
Drop an accapella track into ableton
Right click - Slice to midi
Then noodle on the keyboard until you land on a good flow of vocal chops.
Change pitch and start/stop times as needed.

>>73830989
if you're using Logic, turn on Advanced Tools and then open the EXS24, there's a sampler built into it which you can then automatically send to musical typing. just drag and drop your vocal chop into the sampler and you'll get a keyboard with the sound pitch modulated to each key

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Buying my first synth/keyboard type thing. I'm a bedroom musician. What do you guys recommend. I'm in between these 3

Akai Advance
Korg Minilogue
Komplete Kontrol

Some background.
I hate party EDM type stuff. More into IDM and ambient.

Like Synths from bands like Beach House, Flotation Toy Warning, etc, and I'm looking for it to complement my sound.

Are instrument samples good? I know it's more exclusive to VST's, but I'm trying to get more of an indie sound rahter than "le epic"cinematic. Would the Komplete Kontrol(or a VSTI of your suggestion) be a good fit?

>>73831391
Korg minilouge is the only synth there, the others are controllers. FYI, the synth will require an audio interface

But any of these will be fine.

>>73831493

yes. for the price, it was the one hardware synth that felt most complete. any other suggestions? Or what are the rpos and cons with these, or soft synths and hardware synths these days?

>>73829844
A controller couldn't do anything that you wouldn't be able to program in manually

However, if you turn off quantize and play your melodies by midi controller -- they'll sound much less stiff so if you are capable of pressing the notes the way you like to play them and have it record to a piano roll you would produce better results than just clicking everything in with no "swing" or "groove" settings

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>tfw used to be top beatmaker in the city
>tfw literally can't make a beat anymore
how do I come back hard to show these new niggers

>>73830959
plz help

why is fl studio so good for making hip hop?
I'd like to use studio one but it's slow af to put down a beat

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all i've made recently is this one house track which is really simple but i like it. fun and bouncy. thoughts?

https://clyp.it/1slevu0o

>>73832342
how is it slow to make a beat compared to fl studio

>>73831391
I recommend you learn more about what you need/want before you drop any money

imo idm/ambient require more sound design and you don't stand to benefit much with a hardware synth, I say get a controller and whatever vsts and go nuts learning them

>>73830959
>>73831940
lol wtf
>old amp
what kind of amp? what are you trying to do with that?

>>73830541
decent sound design....

I think the snare thing needs to be layered for a little low end and the white noise needs tweeking

sounds like random shit in absynth at the end but i dig it lol

>>73830385
took too long to start
bass needs more presence
guitar is tooooo dark/quiet

drums are easily the best part. sounds alright but you need to take more time getting things to mesh. i don't care for the crowd, it brings the lofi factor up a little too much.

>>73829844
>must have
no

if you've already got all that shit and don't have any genuine complaints then i can't see what you'd be after

>>73829475
those drums sound like shit and sound completely off the rhythm in the last third

defs agree with >>73829830 , could use an extra sin or whatever layered under the main bit

>>73832466
first thing i noticed was the synths all occupying the same place. sounds alright but that makes it more difficult to enjoy

the delay is a little too subtle. snare in the second half is quiet....

I think the last third could use a cool harmony or something to pick the song back up. i got tired of it honestly

>>73832583
well making a drum loop is way faster in fl
also midi editing

>>73831663
I'd just use software, honestly. Hardware doesn't really give you anything essential unless you really like the workflow. And you need more than one or two pieces to really take advantage of that.

>>73832644
>those drums sound like shit and sound completely off the rhythm in the last third

It's supposed to sound like that, don't know what you're complaining about. At 170 BPM the kick on the last third plays exactly a beat before the bar starts from the beginning which ends up sounding like a shuffle at that tempo. Not everything is supposed to be robotically in sync you know.

>>73832644
>what kind of amp? what are you trying to do with that?
Fender frontman 15g, i wanna record straight form there to audacity

>>73832717
>Not everything is supposed to be robotically in sync you know.

lol i know what a shuffle is and i'm just saying i don't think it's working for you here (IN MY OPINION DAMN)

and that statement was also directed toward the edm-y snare.

>>73832741
okay i just checked and that's only an aux in

if you're deadset on that setup i think you'd need to plug the headphone out into something that splits into rca, and it would probably sound like shit

>audacity
get reaper it's winrar free
you just tight on money now? you could cop a used steinberg or scarlett and just record di with some sims, i don't know how good you can get that little fender sounding, especially from the headphone out lol

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>>73829844
get a mixing control surface

>>73833043
i was unaware these existed

only having 8 faders would drive me fucking mad though lol

>>73833043
does this nigger work with fl studio

>>73833100
oh yes suh he's a good strong nigga he'll work with what he's told suh!

so do y'all have your midi keyboard on the front or put sideways?

>>73833062
they are cheap, get 2

or spend a lot more money
https://www.sweetwater.com/c808--Mixing_Control_Surfaces

>>73833166
Sideways like a real man

>>73833166
i have 2 keyboards a 25 key on the desk and a 61 key off to the side

>>73833166
small mini keys on the front for quick working, larger on the side for playing

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>cleaning up hard drive to make room for vsts and shiet
>137 gb of anime
what the fuck have I been doing with my life

>>73833333
just start sampling the anime, mr. quints

>>73833333
those numbers

>>73833333
quints of truth

delete it

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Can I get a r8? I'm concerned about my lows coming through muddy

https://clyp.it/i5tn3gin
>dance, house, early 2000s

>>73833352
now that I recall I actually sold a beat with a sample from gundam wing
kek the guy didn't even know

>>73829634
cool setup
So you have to solder the components onto the boards and then connect everything to the jacks and knobs? How much cheaper are DIY kits compared to fully built versions?

>>73831102
any advice on this?

>>73831102
sounds like a sine and square with a close delay or reverb, also has some sort of pitch modulation.

https://clyp.it/zb1rutkc

what yall think on this. Any feedback welcome

>>73833043
>>73833062
I have version 1 of the nanokontrol and it has 9 faders lol

>>73833819
>https://clyp.it/zb1rutkc
kick sounds too boxy imo
snare is a bit repetitive with the same velocity/phase every hit.
chill beat like the sample choices

>>73833926
thanks for the reply. Yea I was thinkin almost the same thing abt the kick, I'll probably dig around for a new sample. I'll try and spice up the snares too. Thanks again!

>>73833527
>So you have to solder the components onto the boards and then connect everything to the jacks and knobs?
Yes you basically get a ready made pcb board and all the components, so you check everything over and just solder it all to the board following the instructions with the kit. All of the kits I've made so far the jacks and knobs are soldered straight onto the board too so there is no wiring. So it's really simple if you're confident at soldering and using a multimeter to double check any part values you arnt sure of.

>How much cheaper are DIY kits compared to fully built versions?
They seem to be around half price. The Befaco output module kit I just bought was £56 and they retail at £105, the rampage kit is £134 and retail at £295.
If you are trying to save money though you'd probably be better off working some overtime as as a beginner a couple of the modules have taken me all day to build so I'd have been better off going to work and spending that day's wages on a ready built module. Fortunately I find building electronic stuff really relaxing and enjoyable unlike my job so I really don't mind spending the day soldering, but by the time you've bought all the kit and counted your time into building you probably won't really be saving a great deal of money unless you have heaps of spare time.

>>73834332
Modular synths are starting to sound kind of appealing
How difficult would it be to hook up a keyboard as a controller? And how much do you think one would need to invest to get a reasonable start?

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Anyone here have experience with serge synths? Do they have that traditional synth sound or do they have that "organic digital" Buchla esq sound?

Tips on making more interesting/complex chord progressions but still keeping it simple enough for a dance track?

I already know about jazz chords and such.

so i got this thing im really ambivalent about, is not even mixed (nor finished) but kind of sounds balanced in headphones

https://clyp.it/1i03nuiq

>>73835705
ok so i just plugged headphones directly to laptop and holy shit why does just upping a little notch in volume on the sound card makes the sound "separate" more? is it the munson curve? anybody knows? like specifically the panned choir melody at 0:34 gets all joined with the piano melody when plugging directly to laptop but plugged in the card with a little more volume both sounds sound "separated" and distinct, what the fuck is that?

>>73835586
Depends on how complex you want the chords to be for the style of music you're making. Ultimately, you have to do some experimentation. Try adding different extensions to your chords and see which notes work and which don't. You want to use extensions to give chords the color you want. I'd also make sure to have smooth voice leading between chords. It's the difference between harmonically complex chords that transition smoothly from one to the next instead of harmonically complex chords just stitched together

>>73835586
with dance i dunno if its so much the chord progression as it is the sound design and the non-predictable-yet-delivering structure that makes it interesting/complex

like it seems to me all about creating and mantaining a vibe and then trying to make it build up and then coming down for easy transitioning with another track but doing it without falling in the expected movements

also, taking into account the moment in the night the track is intended for seems to be key, ive noticed a certain pattern in how dj sets are arranged, look at the longer shit, like the guy who comes in at 2 and ends around 8, there's seems to be a build up moment that puts you in hypnotic trance, a mid peak moment where party mode is achieved, an "experimental" moment where tension is built up by almost pure offputing unespected fuckety, a "dark valley" moment where introspection glooms the room and its like everyone has become trapped by the groove into, then a "resurrection" moment where hope re enters the minds and everyone slowly comes out of themselves , then "fireworks" where everybody feels the ecstasy of union, and finally a "sweet release" that slowly but surely delivers you safe to reality

all of those moments have different qualities, and playing with them, their atmosphere, and people's expectations of them correctly is what makes tracks be good or bad

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>>73829634
Sup fellow modular anon
I think we were chatting a couple weeks back and I was going to post how my modular is setup, but the thread died and i never posted it.

Pic related is how I typically use it. Also have a Beatstep pro for pitch/gate signals.

>>73835131
not that anon but
>keyboard as controller
Really simple. You just need a keyboard with cv/gate output, there are some cheap ones out there. Or you could just get a beatstep and connect it to your DAW, which would channel the midi from the DAW to the beatsteps CV/gate outputs, and you get a 16 step sequencer out of the deal. They also make USB/midi to CV/Gate modules.
>starting cost
Really depends on what you buy. You can get a decent case as low as $150. each module can be $70-300 (or a fuck-ton more). you'll probably need at least 3 modules to get going.

>>73837206
kind of arranged like a strong psychedelic trip if you ask me:

>build up, the waves, "am i high? "
>hype,giggles, color intensification, bubbling, visual melting, orgasmic sensory overload
>time/space starts warping, bizarre sensations, fear/anxiety
>high gets too intense, start getting into dark places, lose control, death
>stop fighting to remain in control, submit to drug, drug ends up being nice, realize bad feelings was because of self trying to contain itself, resurrection
>ecstatic feeling of unity, blessing flowing through 5 senses and 3rd eye and all chakras, god
>god starts fading away, yet afterglow, floating down, start being able to think again

>>73835850
>just upping a little notch in volume on the sound card makes the sound "separate" more? is it the munson curve?

no you're imagining things. you hear things better when they're louder ofc

>>73833819
you've got a lot of nice sounds but it doesn't really do anything for me without vocals desu

drum beat makes it much more interesting at the end

have recently gotten into semi modular/modular synths, own an MS20 mini, love it.
Have been looking into getting another one for the price.
I'm looking at a Mother-32, though also am curious about lesser known synths like the Bastl Kastle. Not entirely interested in Microbrutes due to their seeming lack of patchbay usage. Though wouldn't mind picking up a Minibrute simply for it's polyphonic abilities. Should I just start saving for a full Pittsburgh setup?

>>73838277
>Should I just start saving for a full Pittsburgh setup?

I know nothing about this shit but it sounds like if you're going to put the money into modular at all you might as well just do it right

>>73838277
dreadbox has some really good sounding semi-modular stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kx-ICYAZl4

>>73838673
fuck now i want that thing

>>73837672
>you hear things better when they're louder ofc

yeah but thats the munson curve, at louder levels low and high frequencies sound more prominent than mids, the opposite at lower, which in the case of the track i posted makes the difference between the choirs discerning itself from the piano and blending in with it weirldy and fucking the flow

https://ehomerecordingstudio.com/fletcher-munson-curve/

>>73835705
>https://clyp.it/1i03nuiq
This is good stuff, even unmixed.
What synths/plugins did you use for this?specifically those choir/vox pads.

>>73839225
If you think you know what it is then why ask..?

Either way that's not the practical use you're supposed to get out of it lol. (You don't need that many highs wow)

The change in volume was negligible, that's probably what anon meant saying you're imagining things

>>73835850
different DACs

https://clyp.it/v1ds04mf
made this thing what do you boys and girls think ?

>>73839594
nice programing. keep it going.
something sounds strange with the synth chords, almost as if there is a high pass filter on them with the resonance set too high.

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>>73825091
What time signature is this?
https://clyp.it/vvnowgvs

im having trouble fitting it to the grid

>>73839719
ye i realized lol , im fixing it thanks

>>73839491
>If you think you know what it is then why ask..?
because is the first time i actually hear it and realize why it matters, i didn't knew when i asked i had a faint idea it might be that, then kept messing with the card volume and figured yeah, it was that

>Either way that's not the practical use you're supposed to get out of it lol. (You don't need that many highs wow)
>The change in volume was negligible, that's probably what anon meant saying you're imagining things
Well man i dunno, it surprised me, im pretty much an acoustic's noob, like it was a little turn of the knob, and suddenly the choir was discernible

>>73839387
thanks lad ive been working hard on it!
plugins are mostly tal reverb 2 and tal-dub, they are always the first two shits i throw in almost every channel, also some psp, acon multiply, and saturators

the choir pads are a processed preset from my brother's piano, the rest is volca bass, my voice, a harmonica, and a wind piano

>>73839747
the drum seems to go at a swinged 3/4, hit your hand on the desk in tempo with the song and count the hits, accent the first and kind of swing the rest, when you get a groove pay attention, if you hear the kick or the snare thats a confirmation

some of the instruments enter at weird spots doe, but nonetheless, even if its a weird signature if you work on 3/4 you will be fine

do any of you nig nogs make money off the /prod/ life? any worthwhile money at least.

what is most lucrative for you? beat making? mixing?

i pretty much gave up on music a little over a year ago because of a couple things but mostly low self esteem and lately i've been realizing that A LOT of people will just settle for average so i wanna just say fuck it and start offering mixing for people.

whats the best way to start getting into that? theres some folks at my work with some sorry ass youtube beats they've been using and i keep offering to do some shit for them but i cant even get them to email tracks for me to work with.

is upwork worth it? do i just make business cards and leave em at the swap meet? (i live in dallas so i think hiphop/rap would be the biggest market plus most of it is mixed like shit)
i just wanna start gathering up some clientele, help?

>>73839747
it's a waltz rhythm 3/4 @ about 155bpm, but clearly they didnt have a metronome click in their daw turned on kek

>>73839594
i think i fixed or idk lol

https://clyp.it/gafxykjf

>>73840619
sounds good but i think you should eq the chords away from the bass

>>73840722
how is that ?

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>>73840317
>>73840431
Thank you

how do people feel about pocket operators?

>>73841233
they seem like toys that would never get recorded into a real song

>>73841278
are they solid enough as toys, though? I'm not great at playing regular drums and therefor I'm also not great at playing things normally on pads, so I do better with 16-steps where I can drop things in and listen as I go. would the PO-12 be good enough, or should I just go for the Volca Beats?

How do you add additional elements to something so compressed?
https://clyp.it/q5jmaki2

>spend significant amount of time deconstructing album
>randomly find interview by the guy who made it
>claims he was a complete amateur who had absolutely no clue what he was doing
Do the swedes play coy or should I just quit production?

>>73842355
ghost producers are real.
its an entire industry and has been around since the mid 90s.

>>73831663
Hardware makes it more fun. That may sound like nothing but it really means something when you're excited to make a track instead of dreading it.

Purely mouse and keyboard working puts you in a detail, multiple click / drag, staring at the screen mode. A few years of that and you're risking eye strain, RSI as well as inevitable ear fatigue (keep volumes low, take many breaks).

Starting out you should get a synth with as many knobs and keys that you can afford. There's no real clangers when you hook it up to midi and can access a world of sounds with vst and samples etc.

>>73840407
offer services here? https://www.fiverr.com

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>>73833333
>137 gb of anime

>>73838277
The intellijel Atlantis is a good synth voice to start with its worth checking out the divkid YouTube videos on it Akemies castle is also worth a look or you could look at some mutable instruments modules as they all seem to work as multifunctional modules if you don't mind digital.
Also expert sleepers do some good usb modules so you can hook your modular gear upto your computer running something like Reaktor blocks for utilities, envelopes, lfo's, clocks ect

WIP

any ideas to get it to sound less like Burial / Massive Attack? kind of at a loss as to where it should go next

https://clyp.it/c04dif40

>>73841723
use EQ to match the additional elements to this mix, and maybe compress them in the same way

>>73833407
4/10
sounds very cheesy, it's just not my cup of tea
the 'turn it up' sample is pretty generic
'anger has a place in all of this' sounds quite random
the snare in the intro sounds far too thin and crisp
lows sound OK, the whole mix is quite thin though so make sure you're bringing them up, you should be fine to as long as you make room for them in the mix
pros: you have good drum programming and a good understanding of texture

hey ya'll, long time lurker here wanting to ask a few questions and get some things off my chest a bit.

I'm working on an EP scheduled for release on August 5th, but I just don't know if it's ready. It's an EP of nine tracks, three of which have yet to have any instrumentals. I am singing, songwriting, composing, producing, and mixing the entire project and it'll be my debut ep. It's dance-pop but with ambient and experimental sounds.

Idk. I just want to start with my best foot forward, so i guess I'm just looking for advice on how to shake off the self doubt and what you'd would do if you were in my situation.

>>73845204
are you self releasing

>>73845204
realise that in many ways, you're your own worst critic

>9-track EP
that's quite counter-intuitive. I don't get the current trend of artists passing off projects that are clearly albums as EPs - can someone school me on this?

>>73845282
Counter-intuitive in which ways? Would it be better to release less? I'm looking to start performing live and hopefully finding gigs. that's the end goal so i thought a sizeable ep would do the job.

>>73845280
Yes, I'll be self-releasing this one, but it'll be the thing I spread around to hopefully find managment.

>>73845204
If you can't bring yourself to put instruments to those three tracks just make it 6.

Get it (mixed and) mastered by a local hotshot and go to the sessions and get feedback from him.

There are tutorials on how to self release online, including starting your own record label (not as hard as you think). Part of it is being clear about what your goals are. Where do you want to end up, what achieve?

Depending on how proud of it you feel you'll have to promote it otherwise it'll get 7 views a year.

>>73845372
yeah that makes sense that you want to release something, I just don't really understand how a 9-track project can be considered an EP. I'm just venting my frustrations, it seems like the definition of 'EP' has been stretched to the point of meaninglessness nowadays

>>73845412
Thank you for the advice, I've been scoping out other studios that have actual mastering and analog hardware to add to that sound.


My end goal is to be a touring musician, doing the festival circuit. I know there's slim pickings to get to there, but I've dedicated my life to nothing else.

>>73845428
And I totally understand. Don't get me started on this whole mixtape thing.

>>73845469
>My end goal is to be a touring musician

You could start doing that on your own

>>73845523
wait really? at the festival stages? obviously you gotta build up to that level, but I had no clue you could.

>>73825091
https://clyp.it/0rm5ncg1

my vocals are too quiet. Like My mouth is touching the mic and it barely reaches -10db.

I'm compressing shit, do i turn the gain up, or is that frowned upon with vocals?

>>73845987
try doubling or using a utility plugin to adjust the gain you're missing,

>>73837330
How do you like the quad pingable LFO?

I love my QCD and have been looking for some more modulation.

>>73842489
and understandibly so. the big producers usually have guys who do the whole sound design part for them and just send them a bunch for them to pick and choose and arrange however the artist wants.

Same thing with songwriting. Rihanna has her go to people, but there are people like Sia, Charli XCX and Starrah who write for other artist, while releasing their own material as well.

>lol that music sounds crazy
>haha too complicated for me
>really nice but I like simpler shit
>simple, needs more variation
The state of the music producing world.

>>73846464
i actually had a local producer said I do too much in my mixing because I'm big into automation and it takes like a couple of secs if you don't psyche yourself out about it and I thought wow so many people are satisfied with the bare minimum

>>73846464
It's possible to put lots of detail and layers into a track that is still easy to follow and coherent. "Crazy" and "Complicated" are normally pleb-code for random sounding.

Imagine listening to your track for the first time. Does it still make sense? If you want to do something complicated the details need to be something you notice on a repeated listen, but to get someone to listen again there needs to be a simpler idea or aesthetic for them to latch onto on the first listen.

>>73846523
idk anon it's both laughable and demoralizing. I feel like I need a holiday every time I get feedback from those idiots.

>>73841557
It's really easy to get some ideas going on those, and they have some cool effects as well. It's up to you if you'd want to record with one tho. I have a PO-12, and I record with it.

>>73846658
the only advice i can give is just getting better brother. tackle your demons and your doubts. read up on the things you're so/so on or worried about.


I know if you're layering parts, you wanna get devilishly good at EQing so one sound doesn't impede on the other

>>73845102
any feedback on this?

>>73825091
Just wanted to share this really nice resource for those looking to improve their theory/ composition knowledge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrdBw1Y667s

I just found this guy. He's cringy as fuck, and he really knows his theory and explains things very well. Criminally under-subbed. Constantly uses sonic, K-ON and other weeb compositions for reference.

is the kensington traball a meme or is it useful

>>73846923
thanks anon this is actually pretty good

how do you know if your voice is actually bad vs you just not liking the sound of your own voice?

>>73847256
let's hear it

>>73846292
Quad Pingable LFO is good, especially if you already have a Quad Clock Distributor since they can link them up in the back.

>>73847267
I'm not that dumb

if I actually take off like I'm planning to I don't want to be connected to 4chan

also It's not mixed and sounds like shit.

I sound like black Eminem, I wanna kill myself

>>73846644
>>73846699
here's the thing guys. What if you were getting 1/10 for a track from some people and then 10/10 from others?
I have literally no idea what to do with this feedback.

>>73847285
Are the optional normalizations broken if you put a jack into the input?

>>73847304
I assume any compliments I receive on my music are politeness. If you only want your music to appeal to 'deep' music nerds then you shouldn't worry what people think anyway.

>>73847301
>not sure if my voice sounds good
>won't let anyone else hear my voice

alright, consult the tea leaves then.

>>73846644
good idea

>>73845102
>any ideas to get it to sound less like Burial / Massive Attack

>get off the grid
>reverb
>SPACE
>sound design juuuuuust right

dude i can hear exactly how your song should sound and it's actually annoying the shit out of me that you're not doing it right lol

make those drums groove (kick ahead in the first half and lagging in the second, more varied snare velocity)

thing up those slicey panning percussion things

actually thin out a lot of this shit and turn it down and let the reverb do your work. turn a lot of this down... im mostly talking about the pads

that main dubstepy synth isn't cutting it. you need to tweek it like... a lot. it's pretty easy to get that sound in fm8, i'd say go for an "Airy" tone for your operators... idk what that means to you but i normally put a triangle into a sin and get it quick

i don't care for that solo square wave thing in the end....

>>73845820
??? it's like 10 seconds what do you want anybody to say lol

>>73846464
>>73847304

different people have different taste wtf....

if you make weird electronic music you'll never be popular and normies won't understand get over it

>>73847345
>>73847449
>that knee jerk reaction of acting like I'm a musical snob
lol for a second there I forgot I was on /mu/. Peace out niggers

https://clyp.it/4fhcvd4t

i have no idea what this is

>>73847449

cheers for yer input

>get off the grid
>reverb
>SPACE
>sound design juuuuuust right

I'm asking to make it sound less like Burial / Massive Attack, not more. It was kind of a side effect of the sounds I chose for the track, guess I'll have to change those up.

>thing up those slicey panning percussion things
I know which sound you're referring to but I have no idea what you mean

>>73847475
I didn't assume you're a snob. I assumed your music is inaccessible because it wasn't very well composed.

>>73847372
I just asked someone and they confirmed I did sound like Black eminem. Kill me

>>73847475
somebody translate what this guy is trying to get at?

>>73847493
ignoring the autotune guy (i actually don't hate that screamy style lol)

.... well basically all of your sound design needs work lol. the guitar tone especially hurt

sounds hella cluttered

>>73847345
>QPLFO
yeah, plugging into the Inputs on the Quad Pingable will override the clock for that channel coming from QCD. Also you can also still use the clock outs from the QCD as needed without breaking the connection.

>>73847579
>I'm asking to make it sound less like Burial

fuuuuuuck i actually took a few minutes to type all that out lol. do the opposite of what i said?

that was supposed to be "thin up" aka*high pass cut low mids*

i still stand by what i said as being suited for your song. i mean it sounds like burial lol, if you don't want to sound like that you need to start over.

OFF TO CLASS GUYS!!! :((((

>>73847609
autotune guy was also me, the whole thing was created by me. i've never actually done anything like this before haha. i actually rap more than anything believe it or not. thanks for the input though, for real.

>>73833333
>hoards up 100+ gbs of anime
>when kissanime exists

nice numbers tho

>>73848222
nice numbers tho

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>tfw recorded 200 takes and none of them are acceptable
wish me luck guys, I'm going to be doing this all day

>>73848722
if you're serious you just need to practice more wtf

>>73848863
or just record it in smaller parts and edit it right, fuck practice

>>73849214
this honestly. edit multiple takes together, don't try to force yourself to have a perfect take

>>73849214
>>73849282

>or just record it in smaller parts and edit it right
literally everybody does this it's called comping

>fuck practice
lol

>>73837330
I think we were chatting a couple weeks back and I was going to post how my modular is setup, but the thread died and i never posted it.
Yeah that was me

Pic related is how I typically use it. Also have a Beatstep pro for pitch/gate signals
Thanks for posting that. Looks like yours is much more usable than mine in its current state. My original plan was to build some effects, clocks and unusual modules hence the Atoner and noise swash and then buy a synth voice like the intellijel Atlantis as that would have osc, envelopes, LFO etc, but my work van died and I got hit with a big tax bill so I have no cash at the moment...so I'm thinking I might just carry on buying one module a month to build. I think the Befaco rampage is next on the list although I'm not sure if that will be the best option. So many cool modules to choose from

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>>73849470

>>73836118
>smooth voice leading
How do you do that in electronic music? Which instruments do you use? (bass, organ?)

>>73849496
incase is too good at reaction images for a guy so guilty of sameface

Is it worth it building following on meme sites lik tumblr? And how does one even do it?
I tried to use tumblr once but I find it highly confusing.

>>73849856
>building following on meme sites lik tumblr?
>meme sites

if that's the following you want then yes obviously it's worth it
>how
be cool and interact without pushing yourself too hard

if you find tumblr confusing you might be retarded \(._.)/

>>73849903
But how can I promote my content?

>if you find tumblr confusing you might be retarded
Idk man. I just feel lost when I try to use that crap

>>73849856
its helpful in the grand scheme, but not worth it to put a bunch of effort in.

you could use a service like IFTTT or similar to automatically update all of your social media platforms with one post, then it just happens without much effort put in

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Hey guys, I made some edgy beat with samples of an angry pastor at the beginning and end, with added bits of women in church "catching the Holy Ghost"... what do you guys think?

https://clyp.it/vhzbqtdv
>https://clyp.it/vhzbqtdv
https://clyp.it/vhzbqtdv

Can someone post the discord?

>>73850008
no

>>73850008
no

>>73850190
>>73850070
epic

>>73849929
i just mean don't be that faggot begging and spamming people to listen to your shit.

you should come off as a tumblr user first and a musician second, you just drop links to your shit when you put something out and if people like and know you they'll listen

it's pretty much just browsing tags and following people... that's it. post shit so you show up when people browse tags you post under and so others will follow you

like the other anon said i don't think its worth the effort. you should put that time into gettting better lol. unless you're trying to be some edm dj dude where the music doesn't matter then yeah, work on your image

>>73850008
the discord sucks and is even deader then these threads

>>73849527
It can be for whatever instrument or sound is providing the chordal accompaniment. If you learn basic voice leading from music theory, the same rules apply no matter what type of music it is you are making.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKM8FtLgvRk

I've been trying to figure out a name to release music under for months and I still cant find anything that fits, how'd you guys come up with yours?

>>73851038
follow your heart faggot nobody can answer that for you

so i'm mixing vocals, and i was equing to get some popping/harsh constonant sounds out from the low end, and now everything sounds too low end. How do I get the low end without bringing the ugly extra noise back?

should I or should I not record in my bathroom?

>>73852628
try it and see if you like it

Does anyone know of a way to dynamically EQ such that my EQ curve changes when I hit certain frequencies? For instance when I play lower notes I want to boost the higher frequencies, and when I play higher notes I want to boost lower frequencies. Or is this what compression already does?

>>73852628
Reverb chamber. Record everything in a dead sounding space, then do takes running the recordings through a speaker in one spot and mic in another. Basically old school impulse response.

Or you could just make an impulse response of the bathroom.

>>73853265
That's definitely not compression and I'm not to sure why you would want to do that

in massive you could map keyboard to negatively mod the eq lol

>>73852232
Your post is not clear about what you're doing

Post a picture of your eq plus before and after examples


It should be as simple as deep cuts or multiband compression

... or rerecording a better/proper take (the superior option)

>>73853479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VUa99-tJqs

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Hey /prod/

A buddy just sent me a mix he made, and while it's produced and mixed pretty well, it's just clipping all over the place. I told him I couldn't properly listen to his mixes like this, and he says the song was recorded 'too low so to fix it so they're not extremely quiet they're peaking but it shouldn't be to an outrageous extent... not enough to not listen to them.'

Pic related for reference on how bad it is. Like there's this much clipping throughout the song.

Guy has taken graduate level audio production courses with me. He's really proud of it. I mean, I care about the guy, and he's otherwise great at production, he's planning on doing it for a career - but this is a rookie fucking mistake.

How do I tell him that limiting and compression exist without insulting him further?

>>73853585
Send him here and we will tell him for you

>>73853585
call him a faggot

>>73853479
I'm just gonna re-record

>>73853265
dynamic eq

>>73853585
>How do I tell him that limiting and compression exist without insulting him further?

Just fucking tell him that. If it pisses him off, that's his problem. If he doesn't want to get better, why does he want to do it as a career? If you want to be nice about it, just make it a suggestion rather than a command.

>>73853799
I did. He's stopped responding.

I don't understand ego.

>>73854164
Escape to Japan and become a living anime character

works every time

https://clyp.it/fskxdmxr

how is the composition in this?
I really spent a lot of time trying to make it feel like an actual song and not just random notes cobbled together like most of my songs.

trying to make some g house...
https://clyp.it/i1tcci22

>>73853585
send him the audacity screenshot with the clipping

>>73854204
Please replace those drums synths entirely

>>73854204
>https://clyp.it/fskxdmxr
everything between 0:20-0:28 sounds fine, otherwise its just not meshing

>>73853265
TDR Nova

>>73855389
it's not that it's not meshing, i think you just need more dynamic contrast. It'll give your track more direction and more room to grow.

>>73855381
huh

>>73855485
yeah, all my songs are like that. I'm not very good at mastering still.
but arrangement wise does it flow well?

>>73855555
Yes, it serves as a good dramatic point or climax. If I was you, I'd think of something to preceed it.

>>73853585
Be direct. be for real. Tell him gain staging is a hard thing to get right, but it makes a world of difference.

alright fucking ableton can't find VST's and cba fixing it so i'm switching back to FL

i think about producing every day but always end up shitposting and playing vidya all day - how the fuck do i stop?

>>73855794
More discipline. Don't overwhelm yourself or be overtly critical in the first stages.

>>73855794
produce first then shitpost and game

>>73855794
i just set a reminder and try to do at least 30 mins a day. it adds up.

>>73849347
I hear ya, I had to sell some older gear to get mine going, and took several months of saving to get the morphing terrarium and sputnik quad vcf/vca.

I haven't seen the Befaco Rampage until now, looks great. Make noise has a function generator kinda like that I was originally looking at. The atlantis seems nice but you may not need something that robust in one module, some of it's functionality could be replaced by the rampage. Then you could get a slightly cheaper VCO, maybe one that can drop to LFO range so there's additional modulation options.

do you have any audio of the Atoner in action? Seems like a cool module.

My guitar + drum choon so far lads. Going to be adding more to it.

https://clyp.it/z3vfmxw4

>>73856057
sounds descenents - y
definitely cut the fizz out of the guitars

>>73855794
>how the fuck do i stop?
decide what you want and do it ..? if you ever want to be good get off your ass, if not keep playing vidya

i take a 10-20 minute break after ever hour or so of producing.... still ends up being like an hour i'm on 4chan every day but it satisfied the urge

I'm thinking about recreating this album. It's an industrial rock E.P. from 1995.
I'm interested in doing this because I want to learn more about sound design, playing things by ear, and just being better at production in general. I think it will be helpful to learn from this then apply it to my productions and songs
I've been doing music production and writing for a little bit over a year now.
It only has 5 songs so I don't think it would be that hard if I take it one step at a time.

Just felt like sharing. I guess something to discuss is how valuable is it to recreate other people's music?
Also, any tips for this project would be helpful.

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>>73857304
Reuploading image because of quality

I saw this video of someone recreating a Prodigy song and it inspired me to do my project
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZYLp5uX9Yw

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>>73825091
I started this sample-based 90's style hip-hop beat but now i'm stuck. Its too repetitive, i can't just loop it for 2 minutes. Any feedback appreciated.

The intro is supposed to sound like some guys doing graphiti in an alley but i can't find a vocal sample that fits so they're deaf guys who don't talk for now

how do I pan the audio like this?
my daw is GarageBand since I'm a poorfag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luKBAq16UZE

>>73858530
garageband doesnt have panning ?

just pirate something better if it is limited

>>73858674
i dont know how to pan audio like that

>>73858713
there is usually an effect called autopan in daws and you can do it with that

>>73858713
Like what? The very beginning?

>>73858814
>>73858810
i figured it out thanks for the help

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comfy /prod/ discord server 4 u

https://discord.gg/hMEbGx

>>73858925
discord is for fags

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>>73858954
Yeah, so?

>>73858925
stop trying to force this shitty discord it sucks worse than /prod/

>>73857634
Add horn stabs with a ping pong delay or some vocal cuts from Acapellas from 90 hip hop.
Sample this for the intro
https://youtu.be/0EW22LzSaJA

>>73859298
Why would I do something because you want me to? You realize I'll just do it more simply to vex you?

>>73859341
I love you

Gonna smoke and watch this with a pen and pad handy so i can write down times

>>73859602
What if I said please

>>73859838
No.

>>73859341
I went ahead and sampled the scene where ice cube gets arrested in the movie straight outta compton, i think it fits nice. Gonna work on making it less repetitive and throwing in some horns or something. This is the first project that I haven't deleted 2 hours after starting it

https://clyp.it/bu1b0crq

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house music idea
https://clyp.it/cykk3bwo

>>73859602
Holy shit this petty autism

Lil' snippet of a Liquid Drum N' Bass track I am working on: https://instaud.io/157w

Appreciate any feedback!

Ok y'all.
Should I get a Mother-32 or an ARP Odyssey Module.
Same price, each with their own merits.
In your opinions, which one would be worth the $599 more?

>>73856044

> Ihear ya, I had to sell some older gear to get mine going, and took several months of saving to get the morphing terrarium and sputnik quad vcf/vca.
Yeah it's a slow expensive process, but I think ultimately it will be a lot more versatile than a couple of standard synths

>i haven't seen the Befaco Rampage until now, looks great. Make noise has a function generator kinda like that I was originally looking at. The atlantis seems nice but you may not need something that robust in one module, some of it's functionality could be replaced by the rampage. Then you could get a slightly cheaper VCO, maybe one that can drop to LFO range so there's additional modulation options.

I was also thinking along those options myself. I might end up buying a couple of intellijel modules and fill in some gaps with other stuff. Also keen to get the mutable instruments tides, Befaco do a Sallen key filter that's based on the MS20 filter too so might grab one of those in time

do you have any audio of the Atoner in action? Seems like a cool module.
I'll try and get time to record off some audio this week. I've only had a few hours with it so far and I'm not totally convinced I calibrated it properly, but it seems to make some really great bass sounds so far.

I have 175 unfinished songs, is this good??

>>73860954
nothing unusual i have about 70 but i only went forwards with 4 of them.

>>73860954
>587 audio files in "tracks" folder
>probaly only 20 of them are finished songs

>>73860954
>>73860977
>>73861098
Okay what's your definition of "finished" though?

I've got a folder of 200+ but many of those are songs that are under a minute, and pretty much none of them were mixed and mastered to 100%

>>73860954
1 finished (mixed, at least an attempt at mastering) is better than 1,000 unfinished songs

What is the best way to get as many effects as possible? pedals? software? What software? What kind of reverb can I get on the cheap that will be good for strings or piano, or even drums?
Speaking of which, where can I find decent realistic sounding drum samples?

How's the Volca Keys, worth it? Or just a toy?

>>73846923
Dig it, very easy to follow for a noob

>>73847588
Just keep practising and faking different voices until something works. did that for a year and now i sound less constipated. you can sound less like black eminem

I'm pretty lost with this song. I find it pretty cool but it lacks something and I don't know what to do to end it.. Suggestions ? Feedback ?

https://clyp.it/avbkewzj

>>73862214
>https://clyp.it/avbkewzj
Think about purpose, think about flow. Think about setting. IMO, songs should fade out, but do what you believe in.

>>73862312
Yeah but before it ends i'd like to add a little pluck but I can't find the right one and I don't have any idea of how to play it

>>73862346
>a little pluck
you say? Maybe a cute atomic chirp? Reverb it all the way out, perhaps? Do you have another song? Perhaps it could fade across.

>>73862397
what do you call an atomic chirp ?

>>73860608
I can feel myself becoming more black the more I listen to it.

What is it about trap music that makes it so exciting? It is not the lyrics for sure.

Working on this atm any feedback?
https://clyp.it/2m10fkla
>Trap
>beatmaker

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>midi controller has rounded corners

>>73863672
Not bad arrangement wise, but in the drop there's this low-mid range hum after the 808 hits. EQ that out.

>>73861098
>>73861253
desu this is how it should be. you'll instantly know if you want to go all the way with a track, and even if you do chose to go a little deeper into a track you may find you might not like it and shelf it anyways.

>>73851038
>>73851177
>nobody can answer that for you
well, to be fair he did ask
>how'd you guys come up with yours?
and didnt explicitly say
>what should my name be?
but i do agree that no one can answer the second question for you.

>>73853585
turn on that clipping feature where it shows it with red lines. then send him a screenshot of it and the next time you see him, slap his head and scowl him like a dog who chewed up ur new jean pants

>>73855794
>how the fuck do i stop?
well what made me switch was that my wifi driver somehow interferes with the audio card so basically i need to reboot my computer with the wifi off for the sound card to work OK again, meaning any detour to the internet means rebooting and fuck that

http://item.warp.net/interview/aphex-twin-speaks-to-tatsuya-takahashi/

did you guys know aphex twin worked on the korg monologue?

>>73835564
I have experienced the Serge sound from the guys in the boutique synth shop in my town often having Serge performances on Saturdays. I've also looked up old catalogues and whatever else that explains the modules. I've come to the conclusion that the Serge System was pretty much the original 0-Coast, as it was capable of West Coast or East Coast Synthesis or maybe even something in between.

>>73851177
>follow your heart faggot


- inspiring words by anon, 2017

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>tfw Korg Minilogue on Craigslist for 400
Should I buy it or save my money?
I have a bass guitar that I still need to buy an amp for but fuck me I really want this synth

>>73866436
bass amps are overrated for recording unless you really spend big

however hardware synths are overrated too

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm synth bb

>>73866436

is the korg minilogue pretty much agreed to be the best synth to buy for its price in terms of versatility? ive heard the novation ultranovation too?

>>73867471
>ultranova

well the korgs analog. in that realm, yeah probably. pretty sure it's the only thing polyphonic in that price range

>>73866436
get it, be happy
use that happiness to make new tunes

>>73867471
I have it. It's nice for buzzy drifty pads and has a metallic kinda character. The oscillators can do some interesting stuff with shape and sync. The filter sounds like asshole. If you want a cheap poly and it needs to analog you don't have a lot of choice. If you want analog because you're chasing that creamy/fat Moog sound or clean/liquid Roland thing don't get the Minilogue.

>>73869033
Is there anything else polyphonic for around the same price that you like? Maybe something used I could look for?

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Is the Yamaha AG03 good enough for bedroom recording or is there something better in the 100 dollar range?

>hardware synths

Is this more about aesthetics and feelings of immersion / equipment that's fun to work with, or do these things actually produce 'better' results?

>>73869853
Personally I just want to be able to play a show without having to rely on the shit laptop I use for producing

>>73869377
It's my only poly. Novation Peak looks interesting. Not fully analog and it's a bit more expensive. DSI Mopho x4 go for cheap secondhand sometimes. Behringer Deepmind 6 maybe?

The Minilogue is cool but I feel like I always make the same sound with it. Trying to do subtler/quieter/heavily filtered sounds always get kinda wrecked by the shitty signal to noise ratio.

>>73869853
A simple modulated pulse wave thru the filter on my Moog Mother 32 sounds better than any VST I've heard. If you want complex sound design analog is probably not the way to go.

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>played piano as preteen
>want an epiano for ages to be able to play again
>heavily into electronic music, just found out what a synthesizer is
>discover Workstations, first Montage 8 then Korg Kronos
>confused by the shear amount of different types of "keyboards" on the market

What should i get. I want to be able to play classic piano, with its feel, 88 keys, but also be able to use wide range of synth sounds etc. As far as I came a workstation as an allrounder should do the trick? However, as much as I liked the kronos on first sight (but jsut online), 4000 bucks are a little bit too much. Hows the Korg Krome or are there any other alternatives that would fit my needs?

>>73870346
I guess it depends on how much money you got. Nord keyboards are quite popular and versatile

>>73869480
what lead you to pick that............

>>73869853
>do these things actually produce 'better' results
no and the difference in a full arrangement after mixing is negligible

Learning the basics of sound design / synthesis right now

One topic that still eludes me are smooth atmospheric / "pad"-like chords

See for instance the opening of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k


Now my beginner's intuition makes me believe that it's something sine-like with a lowpass + reverb + volume envelope, but that doesn't even come close
help

>>73870346
Get a native instruments controller it comes with komplete select so you'll get lots of sampled pianos and other instruments plus a bundle of soft synths and effects

>>73870449
1000€ would be okay, 2000 would be a tough dession, shouldnt be more.
>>73870652
You mean like an epiano + controller. Any examples for that? I'm a total beginner in these fields. I only played a classic piano and cheap keyboard in the past.

>>73870536
It's 24bit 192hz and it's 20% off because of amazon's prime day. I don't know too much about recording hardware, I'm just looking to record some song ideas but I'm getting too much latency with my rockband usb mic.

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>>73869377
this is double the price of a minilogue but is sounds absolutely killer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEgo-kEmlTU

>>73870536
Have you ever played with or (especially) owned any decent analog gear?

>>73870707
most people go with a desktop interface like a scarlett or steinberg when they're starting out

>>73870824
yes and i don't mean to imply that they're not nice to have.

if we're talking strictly end result i'm just saying having a real moog playing the bass line in your song vs monark isn't going to sound vastly superior, and nobody is going to notice

>>73870704
regarding workstation vs controller+computer

If you want more accoustic sounding stuff (pianos, xylophones, violins, orchestral, etc) go with a workstation or electric piano. VSTs on a computer can do that stuff too, but relies on gigs of samples and tons of processing power, effectively taking away the versatility of DAW you'd be using on the same machine. Its better to just have a dedicated keyboard for that stuff that way nothing gets bogged down on your computer.

>>73870899
>isn't going to sound vastly superior,
tell that to digital 303 emulators

>>73870919
I want to be able to play classic piano with it as well. Want to have 88 keys with proper hammer action (or what ever simulates the feel of a real piano the best).

>>73870959
that's obviously not going to be the case in every single comparison

idgaf what you want to work with there's no need to cherry pick for the sake of argument, just make music damn

>>73870978
My recommendation is to go to a music shop and try them out.

>>73871002
>that's obviously not going to be the case in every single comparison
says this guy
>>73870536
>no

>>73871023
this

>>73871072
lol okay

>>73870346
https://www.thomann.de/de/clavia_nord_stage_2_ex_88.htm

this is what you want

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Can your interface be responsible for noise in your signal chain? I've had pic related for 5+ years and I think it's starting to shit out on me. I always get weird crackly digital artifacts whenever I try to record an instrument. There's also a weird tail on the release of whatever sound is being recorded, like you just lowered the bit depth.

I know it's not clipping, because it still happens no matter what volume my keyboard is at, although it is more noticeable the louder I have my keyboard set. I've tried my settings at both 16-bit and 24-bit at 44.1kHz, but I still end up getting the noise. I got new cables as well so I know that's not the problem. I'm guessing there's just some weird stuff going on with the A to D and there's also some extra jank USB stuff being thrown into the mix. I can't record without my instruments sounding shitty. Help?

>>73871189
maybe it's because of warping

>>73871189
is it the keyboard jack? have you tried something else?

I used to have the 2 input version of that back when it came out, i remember some OS updates caused driver issues with it and created crackling issues too, but i think a driver update fixed it.

>>73871189
>Can your interface be responsible for noise
yes, it may be the interface that's falling apart, it might be a broken cable, if you ask me it's more likely a drivers' fault, you may try to increase the audio buffer size and change cables, see if that changes anything
>>73863843
lower the high hat level or compress these fucking drums more ffs

everybody stop jerking off about analog synths if you don't have the money to buy them, learn what the parameters on a synth mean and try some shit with whatever synth plugin

>>73870899
I think most 'analog sounding' electronic music is much more sparse mix wise and having real shit is definitely noticeable. Especially when you're talking about FM'd filters or complex Buchla style oscillators. Digital audio rate modulation still sucks ass from what I've heard and probably will for a long time. If you're just doing typical plucks and filtered bass and shit then yeah it probably doesn't matter.

>>73871189
Make sure you have balanced cables, you're not overloading a power socket, your CPU is good (even a decent one will get the occasional crackle), you're using the ports on the back of your motherboard, not the ones on your case.

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wtf I love FM now

>>73871758
is that skrillex's ghost producers who make the wubz?

>>73871929
no its swedish house mafia

>>73871975
boards of ireland?

>>73871345
>>73871570
Just updated the driver, but I'm still having the same problem. When I have the monitor mix completely at the Direct signal, it doesn't sound too bad. But when the monitor mix is completely at the Playback signal, that's when the noise gets introduced. Does this mean that the interface is the problem? Also, would getting a thunderbolt interface like a Focusrite mitigate noise and or latency?

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https://clyp.it/e1pv1cxu

I posted an earlier version of this ITT but it 404'd, tried to follow the critique I was given to the best of my ability

pardon for it being so quiet, it's the premaster

do your worst lads

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https://clyp.it/41ul0e3o

is this track too stupid to keep lol

>>73872143
seems a bit random, sounds like an interlude track on a lesser sufjan stevens album

>>73872223
i don't think u realize how highly i take that as a compliment
if i keep it it's gonna be a short interlude thing for sure i just don't know if it'll fit anywhere because the tone is so silly compared to everything else
oh well thanks for the input

>>73872141
i don't understand what you were trying to do here honestly

vocals that melody and the strings seem like completely unrelated samples (idk if that main synth is but i'm pretty sure i recognize that exact line). just seems aimless with no structure....

>>73872143
not sure about that title

.... the harsher synth seems totally out of place

it's not "too stupid" but the mix is too bad to really accurately judge this songs potential....